Topic: @Theymos @Cyrus Please give me another chance ? [after 3 years] (Read 600 times)

Even if the admins have decided not to be as strict with certain copy-pasting incidents, I doubt they are going to write about it in public. The goal is not to invite people to do it and have them use such statements by the staff as an excuse. If it became known that the 1st and 2nd reported plagiarized post is forgiven, for example, it will become madness. 

I don’t know how the current situation around plagiarism could be described, but let’s just say it’s a lot harder for someone to get a perma ban than before. Here let us take the example of a member @BenjaminGlover reported for plagiarism/paraphrasing on February 17, and has not yet been banned and continues with shitposting in Bitcoin Discussions.

To make matters worse, we are pretty sure that this is one of the alt account from the same person who has already been banned at least twice for the same thing.

That is something that is not quite clear to me.
Have the rules on the forum really changed and for plagiarism you no longer get permaban?
If so, then the admins should make it public.
But in that case, it seems to me that the criteria for getting permaban have changed, which is probably not very fair for those who were expelled from the forum in previous years due to stricter criteria.
Instead of further speculation I would like a clear answer from the admins on this very sensitive issue.
But if the rules for permaban have really changed, officially or unofficially, I think we can expect a lot requests for unban in the near future and I’m not sure the admins wants to deal with that.

Seeing that people are now getting temp bans or no bans at all after committing plagiarism, I think you deserve another chance. Normally I don't support these appeals but if the mods are going soft on other plagiarists, why shouldn't you get the same treatment? 3 years is a lot... You learned your lesson probably.

Obviously, the OP is sentimentally tied to that account, otherwise he could really just make a new account and reach some of the higher ranks. But here we must always keep in mind that the administration will always start from whether the OP has any significant value for the forum, and whether it has the support of the community. As things are, the OP did not have support 3 years ago, in reality it does not have it today - and if his request was approved, the question is what to do in some similar cases that would occur in the future.

Things like this are not something the administration wants to deal with, because not doing anything sends a clear message, and any positive decision can create even more situations like this in the future.

I would agree with you here. Three years was enough for OP to build up another account (assuming he could successfully avoid ban evasion) and put some effort to make it a Legendary account. But instead OP has been waiting for 3 years and again pushing the unban for his main account.

The rules are known, and each case of plagiarism is approached individually by the administration. If they judge that someone is valuable to the forum to the point that it goes beyond a permanent ban, they give him a second chance, and as a punishment, a signature ban is issued for a definite period of time.

One of the key things is how much the banned member actually wants a second chance, and how much the whole community supports him. From the example we have had the opportunity to follow for 2 years, we know that perseverance and unconditional support still pay off, but I think that such support in the forum can be expected by really few members who would find themselves in such a situation.

Following the RegulusHr case, I would agree with your suggestion.
It was obvious that the forum community wanted RegulusHr back on the forum, but there was no reaction from the admin for 2 years.
There were a few exceptions before that, when permaban was abolished but without clear criteria, and which left room for speculations.
Given that the permaban rule has not been so strict for a long time, and there are already too many exceptions, it might be a good idea for administrators to declare clear rules for abolishing permaban.

You'll shouldn't have responded to him in the first place.
Looking at all he wrote in his previous Appeal, it's show he wasn't sorry a bit, all of that were totally crap, no emotions was attached to so how sorry you was.
I'm sorry to say that, theymos must have seen this and won't accept your Appeal. And it's three years already, I don't need any to tell me you've got a new account already.
Plagiarism is a sin in the community and sinners get themselves fucked!

Doesn't matter how many years it's been mate, the fact such post is coming from an account you are appealing with goes a long way to really show how bad you want you banned account back 🙄🙄.

Sincerely, the sooner you begin to take your eyes off a door that already closed and search for an open one, the better for you, because considering your many offenses, which ban evasion is one of them, I doubt if you will ever get your banned account back, but anyways, I wish you Goodluck.

No one wants to open Pandora's box and set a precedent, although we all know that a number of people got a second chance, but probably not something like this where the OP is looking for something, and honestly doesn't have the support of more members. The question is how many banned people actually visit the forum, and how many would ask for the same thing as the OP - it seems to me that there may be isolated cases, but certainly not dozens of members would appear and ask for pardon.

I think there should be an option that would allow the banned member to return after x years with a permanent ban on signature and avatar.

True. He even said back in 2018 that he wouldn't mind having his signature space banned forever:


He also responded to hilariousetc and said he wasn't part of any bounty campaign when he got banned. If he wasn't wearing a sig, the plagiarism wasn't financially motivated. He has served a 3 year sentence already. Maybe the admins should consider bringing him back. But it's a difficult decision to make because if you bring back one user, dozens of others will request the same.  

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BTW, how many cases of copy-pasting were found? hilariousetc mentions only one, but were there others?

This was an exceptional case that will probably never happen again in this forum, and it is unlikely that the OP can draw any hope from this case, because of what you have already mentioned - the great support that RegulusHr had from the local community and other members of the forum were crucial.

However, the OP has the right to claim its account back, regardless of how many years have passed and the reasons why it received the permaban. In addition, he agrees to all conditions, even the signature ban - which means that his primary goal is not to return to exploit the forum with signature campaigns.

Rapid123, you probably think your case is unique on this forum but it is not.
To gain a new perspective and understanding, study this case: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ban-appeal-regulushr-and-discussion-on-topic-good-for-the-forum-as-a-whole-5097792
As you can see, it took a full 2 years for this case to be resolved.
In doing so, RegulusHr strictly adhered to all the rules, explained his case, did not write in other topics, and managed to prove that because of his contribution and importance to the forum he deserves forgiveness and a second chance.
He also received great support from his local community, which did not stop for a full 2 years.
Based on all this, he got a second chance and forgiveness on this forum.
Honestly, I don't see any of that in your case.

Coming back three years after ban asking for forgiveness shows how dear your account is to you. But I think you would have done something better to facilitate your unban if you will be that lucky.

• You shouldn't have created this thread, I checked your appeal thread and it wasn't locked, all you needed to do was to bump it with your new request
• Will it surprise you to know that you didn't provide link to your main account that you want to be unbanned?
• You could also provide a link to your plagerised post to allow moderators re-weigh the gravity of the plagiarism
• Your timing is so wrong and three years after the ban, you couldn't find a more appealing way to present your case. You literally repeated what you did 3 years ago. I fear your chances of unban is slim since we have the same judges and spectators.
• I searched your profile and discovered you are a hero member, I went through your posting history as well. If there are positive things you contributed to the forum from your brand new to hero member other than posting all altcoins in altcoins announcement, this is the time to show them, who knows you may be the next luckiest man.

I think you're making your case even worse by not staying on course. You should appeal your ban by only posting on your ban appeal thread, not anywhere else. BTW, you should show cause why you've to be forgiven with remorseful heart to start with. I know what it feels like to lose one's account. For you to still stick around after three years for it, I guess it means a lot to you. I hope you're given a second chance (if it's worth it though).

BTW, I checked the account you mentioned "rapidleech" in the OP and it led me to a Hero account that was last active on January 6th, 2022. I guess it's a different account.

You're so lucky, because you are supposed to get ban for this account as well for evading the ban but lack of active is the reason but don't be surprised that if this account ban anytime from now. The ban is permanent so 3 years or even 10 years the result is going to be the same.

You'd think 3 years is enough time to read the rules but apparently not.

You've been evading your ban and you're multiposting. I hope admins don't waste their time on your "appeal".

Dude, what is it you're so concerned with--losing access to your Copper membership account?  That's the only thing I can think of that would make you come back two years after you'd been banned and ask for access to your old account.  Most people would just create a new account on the sly and start over, even though it's against the rules.

I'll remind you that you wrote this (in addition to a lot of other nonsense):


Judging from your tone right now, it's obvious you haven't changed one bit.  What is it you're so eager to contribute to the forum?  You can do all the reading you like without even having an account, you know.

3 years is a lot of time and I'm only coming to the Knowledge of your case just now. I think your bim of hope came out of the recent case of accounts that just got unban over the holidays but you ought to know better. When it's blatant plagiarism that counts into at least 50% of your post, it's of no use being unbanned.

You've been around more than  I have and I must say, even an account created for the purpose of appealing a ban is supposed to stay the course of an appeal and not participate in any other activity of the forum including posting on other threads but,  your user could be said to have violated that rule. In essence, it could be seen as ban evasion which in turn, puts out your appealing account for a ban.

I feel for you, looking out for possibilities, signature bans and even paid options to uplift ban but, its kind of difficult to open that window isn't it. In one instance, it could lead to some sentiments that would bring in corrupt practices of paying to lift ban and sentiments of having users banned with eyes fixed on payments to uplift the ban. That's the likely interpretation that might spring up any legitimate ban and unban cases so, its hardly an option to consider.

I suppose you should have stayed the course of an appeal and hope for the best but, you didn't really, did you! In some instance, you got to join in the critics on some DTs getting to bash people's accounts and circulate merits on meta

Now that won't help you so much, would it. It's just awful for an appealing account to be antagonising, it doesn't put you in a very remorseful or appealing way!

Hi to bitcointalk lovely members

3 years passed since my ban appeal topic, I was checking meta forum everyday to see if there is something new about Permabans rules or not

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/theymos-cyrus-can-you-reconsider-on-permabans-rules-after-3-month-5044571


That account was a something special too me , "Ban my signature! Ban my access to Any forum section! ... anything! , i will do anything to get my original account back!

Just give me another chance Please.

Main account : @rapidleech

Regards