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Topic: THEYMOS see this. This forum is overruned by bots. (Read 1039 times)

BilatChicken

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Quote from: athanz88 on May 09, 2018, 09:55:07 AM

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Quote from: cryptoworld9x on May 08, 2018, 06:19:48 PM

Some managers simply don't care about them, do you know why? At the end they are still paid so they don't care if someone will abuse or not.

Or maybe, just maybe, that lazy managers are the one who abuse their own bounty with bots or people hired by the managers. It is just a “maybe” from me. This situation would be better if there are some standard to become a manager, and all managers are gathered in one association, so they will have rules and if they break it, other managers will punish them.

I think campaigns are the only biggest problem here in this forum. What if campaigns would be remove here on the forum forever maybe it's the only way to avoid users to make alts and also reduces spam and many of them would go offline and never to re-open their accounts. As i've read some topics here, the situation was always repeated all about spams, alts of anyone, etc.. so maybe it's better that way.

nydiacaskey01

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Here are some of the ICO announcement threads that are run by bots that I know of. You can easily say its run by bots by looking at the posts and who are those posting. Most are newbies, newly created, 1-3 posts only and their posts are usually one liner. Soem of them are even copied from another thread just like what I posted here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.36750497

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on May 09, 2018, 06:04:07 AM

Quote from: cryptoworld9x on May 08, 2018, 06:19:48 PM

Some managers simply don't care about them, do you know why? At the end they are still paid so they don't care if someone will abuse or not.

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Quote from: cryptoworld9x on May 08, 2018, 06:19:48 PM

Oh my god, you catch so much of accounts have illegal action at our forum, i have join some bounty and find out some user have same name such that : Abu ABC, Abu XYZ, Abu DEG. I don't know why a lot of people cheating and almost bounty manager don't kick them or pass them.

Some managers simply don't care about them, do you know why? At the end they are still paid so they don't care if someone will abuse or not.

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Quote from: pantheraio on May 08, 2018, 06:29:24 PM

At least they get a red trust. Even if they create a new account they rank maybe no more than Jr, unless their posts have good quality. Because of the merit they are increasingly difficult to board the rank. And i am looking for users who have multiple accounts but only one person owns.

Actually i've post where it should be. There are already in the response and some are not yet. I hope all posts that i make will be in response as soon as possible

Because maybe I will find another users.

Well yeah but if you check out the topic OP provided, you'd see that a good number of them is a newbie rank. I mean, you can't stop that without banning bounties and airdrops that accept low ranks. You can just let them spam in that topic, because they have no reason to post outside alt-coin marketplace. :/

Tho, I didn't notice that they restrict those who join to one account, at least on the first page of the topic.

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Why my red tag sir marlboro? may you ask me why where is justice??? i was on my profile and saw you give me red trust please marlboro you the best
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Note to the mod, I didn't sell my account after getting tagged, people usually turn to illiterate shitposter after getting tagged because they would sell their accounts.

pantheraio

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Quote from: Tyrantt on May 08, 2018, 06:07:10 PM

Well seeing how low requirements are for airdrops and bounties, I believe that they've already made new accounts. :/

Because maybe I will find another users.

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Boy, oh boy, that's a lot of accounts... Some people are really going above and beyond with these airdrops and bounties... Do they really make that much money that makes all of this worth it?

Quote from: pantheraio on May 08, 2018, 04:17:26 PM

Good job for getting them to get red trust! Will make it hard for them to join bounty

Well seeing how low requirements are for airdrops and bounties, I believe that they've already made new accounts. :/

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Quote from: marlboroza on May 08, 2018, 11:58:36 AM

From these topics: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/biggest-airdrop-delicia-ico-decentralized-food-network-3339619 and https://archive.fo/KSKvQ

I will stop here at this point, someone could easily run script to search all ethereum address and bots. There are much more.

Good job for getting them to get red trust! Will make it hard for them to join bounty

EthanB

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Everything you said does kind of point in the direction of bots, or at least some form of automated behavior. At the very least, these users are copying and pasting from the same script. More realistically, they are the same script, though. Could it be possible that these ICOs are hiring some shifty marketing manager that simply has hoardes of accounts that will shill the project and enroll in the campaign? It would be a sort of circular approach, they pay the marketing guy that claims he can get X amount of views/posts/interactions, but all the accounts used are simply the marketing guy who then gets paid to enroll in the signature campaigns as well. That's probably not the best way for me to explain it, but that's where my mind first goes when I see all of these different projects and different accounts shilling in the same manner.

Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on May 08, 2018, 01:06:22 PM

I'm not convinced they're bots either, but in the end it doesn't really matter--they're shitposting bounty-hunting scunts that need to be banned.

Fair enough. You are definitely right about them being pretty worthless to the forum. I was just wondering if there was something going way over my head, rather than an exuberant thread title. Bots or not, the outcome is still the same and definitely needs some course of action.

Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on May 08, 2018, 01:06:22 PM

I envision a big room somewhere, that probably smells of cigarette smoke and body odor, where about a dozen young men sit at laptops, some with headphones in, and all of these guys are members of bitcointalk and each has about 20 accounts with which they earn money in bounties. The carpet is probably stained beyond repair. They all go by a basic script when posting, which is why much of their output sounds redundant and repetitive. There is no originality in that room they're in, just desperation and poverty.

You bastard, I was drinking a delicious homemade smoothie and just spilled some out of my mouth while laughing. That's more or less what I was getting at, but I presume this isn't any better than it being bots, just a little more sad.

Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on May 08, 2018, 01:06:22 PM

Or it really could be a bot--who knows. But I don't fault marlboroza for thinking so, because that's exactly what it looks like.

Yeah, I'm not faulting them for thinking this by any means. I'm just looking for some explanation on the subject. The damage is the same, bot or not, although if it is bots then they have a much greater capability for scale-able damage. With any luck we'll have AI running around the forum doing a better job at posting constructively than these shitposters, maybe they'll even become quite the moderators (the AI, not the shitposters).

marlboroza

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Quote from: EthanB on May 08, 2018, 12:51:59 PM

So, after looking through the proof I am trying to arrive at the same conclusion that you have, but I am failing to do so. It might be due to my inability to understand the information in front of my face, but please do entertain me. What drives you to believe these accounts are bots, rather than humans? I've read through the thread here and either I've missed that bit, or it wasn't included.

Could it be possible that it is just a very bored person, or a group of people operating very poorly and systematically? I definitely see the link between the accounts, but not that they were anything outside of human.

That is also possibility, but judging the number of accounts, their nicks, posts and the way how they are applying to bounties with each others twitters and other things this is less likely(there are more accounts). Look at this:

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Post above yours is different case and it shows only 1 and a half page of 43 pages, it would probably took me more than a week to post all stuff.

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Quote from: EthanB on May 08, 2018, 12:51:59 PM

Could it be possible that it is just a very bored person, or a group of people operating very poorly and systematically? I definitely see the link between the accounts, but not that they were anything outside of human.

I'm not convinced they're bots either, but in the end it doesn't really matter--they're shitposting bounty-hunting scunts that need to be banned.

I envision a big room somewhere, that probably smells of cigarette smoke and body odor, where about a dozen young men sit at laptops, some with headphones in, and all of these guys are members of bitcointalk and each has about 20 accounts with which they earn money in bounties. The carpet is probably stained beyond repair. They all go by a basic script when posting, which is why much of their output sounds redundant and repetitive. There is no originality in that room they're in, just desperation and poverty.

Or it really could be a bot--who knows. But I don't fault marlboroza for thinking so, because that's exactly what it looks like.

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Quote from: marlboroza on May 02, 2018, 12:54:28 PM

marlboroza

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CASE 2

From these topics: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/biggest-airdrop-delicia-ico-decentralized-food-network-3339619 and https://archive.fo/KSKvQ

https://etherscan.io/address/0xe6c2d451936dfca11fa968426b93e70f8a135221#tokentxns contains large number of PHI tokens ( 4300), each transaction has only 1 PHI token IN and there were all transfered within 2 hours.

If we search forum for each one address from these 4300 transactions, starting from last addy on page 43(at the moment) https://etherscan.io/tokentxns?a=0xe6c2d451936dfca11fa968426b93e70f8a135221&ps=100&p=43 :

We will find accounts:

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eth address: 0x1D5901d243f44b39CED0034c6244B6482f2BF4d9
telegram username: @RedArmy1995
twitter username: @patilsujan

Quote from: ahsduahd34 on April 03, 2018, 02:11:09 AM

eth address: 0xcF1c963A805eb428c97E2435e948AaFadFD54C4B
telegram username: @awesome_earning
twitter username: @Naenten1

Quote from: heroicmammem on April 03, 2018, 09:44:10 AM

eth address: 0xADb7bFfBF067F187C991aA4597004fa91A00891d
telegram username: @jamesndungu
twitter username: @bxhnszj

ETH addy 1+1

Quote from: motive55 on April 18, 2018, 02:29:24 PM

#Proof of ownership :
- @BroganAjayj
- eth address: 0x82a5Dc3Abb0d67e9e9eaa911244cbBd5b022327F

Quote from: jesonciaie on April 03, 2018, 02:36:05 AM

eth address: 0x82a5Dc3Abb0d67e9e9eaa911244cbBd5b022327F
telegram username: @shivshankar97
twitter username: @ZangLee1306

ETH addy 1+1

Quote from: sugercoin on April 18, 2018, 01:55:06 AM

#Proof of ownership :
- @FlickChannings
- eth address: 0x9666916338cC017B805de18AE9cAeaf6de1fe879

Quote from: wreath22 on April 03, 2018, 08:10:05 AM

eth address: 0x9666916338cC017B805de18AE9cAeaf6de1fe879
telegram username: @khandon62
twitter username: @Muhamma49873844

Some addresses won't give result, but probably could be linked trough twitter/face/telegram/etc.

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