Topic: Think I've found an edge, now what? (Read 525 times)

You are replying to an account with a newbie rank, but referring or likenning him or her to an old member, how is that?
As long as rank is concerned, the dude you replied to is a newbie, forget the fact that he joined the forum since 2019, some people register an account here on the forum and abandon it the very next day or few days or weeks after. For such people, when ever they return back to the forum, they remain newbies regardless of whether the account was register 5 or 10 years ago, and as such, treat their comments as one coming from a newbie and not old member.

Do you even care to read the first page entirely? I do not expect much from you as similar behavior is shown by many old members. I have already proven in my previous post on this thread that OP is a pathetic scammer. Please make a habit of reading some replies to OP before posting your opinions, this will do good for you in this forum.

You are either a scammer or had a nice run of luck. Since you are "still in college and currently studying" consider being happy with your current gains, and don't be so greedy.

this could be a solution
I knew a guy from Arezzo, Italy, who was really good at betting
in fact his system worked very well and he didn't sell the method
but when his earnings started to get big he asked friends to give him a betting account so he could split the earnings
the system therefore works..i think

It's surprising to read such things here. I think everyone is aware of that, casino games are not the same thing as sport betting, because they are fully random and you can't overcome the mathematical house edge in the long run, so yes for those games you are very unlikely to get limited or banned if you have a nice winning streak or even a good track record in the long term except maybe if you find and exploit a loophole on some games. But sport betting is not fully random, so if you are a good bettor, you can overcome the margin and make profits in the long run instead of the opposite. Most of sportsbooks will limit your bets including the one you are promoting. Only a few like Pinnacle or SBOBet won't do it but they don't offer exactly the same bets and they are not available from everywhere.

https://www.betburger.com/newbies/avoiding-being-limited

Apparently the OP is lying, he is telling this story so that later people will get in touch with him and then he will suggest people to give him their casino account details, this is because OP is lying that he needs this data to use these accounts in betting and then he will give people some money while the real objective of the OP is that when he has access to people's accounts he will withdraw all the funds from people and disappear. This type of scheme is very obvious, if this guy managed to make a lot of money in bookmakers he wouldn't even make this post here on this forum because the bookmakers wouldn't limit him as long as he played honestly.

If this really works for you Op, then why not always make use of it and choose the same strategy for your gambling, i understand that it may be what you have discovered for yourself, but not all gamblers might be interested in using the same pattern as with you, because they way we are all experience in gambling differs from each other and we may not have to compare what works for us with others approach.

I always see a post like this and another thing that makes me wonder is that it only happens in sports betting when there are also skill-based games in casinos. Is it because sports betting is still more winnable than them? HHmm.. Maybe? You got a point there about Stake because they are a huge betting site and they have a lot of capital to pay for their winners but it might still be annoying to see the same person winning a high amount of money over and over again. It can still cause a dent on them.

Some gamblers are still wise that once they notice that their luck have now run out, they will also run away from the casino even for quite some time.

First of all you are crazy hahhaha I mean you turned 4K to 180K is just crazy freennn that is crazy accurate what is your win rate anyway?

Well about the bookies If I were you I mean if I found the key to always win then the only problem right now is to look for the best bookies which is hard since you "limited" in some way. For now you need to reduce the number I mean if you always get limited when bet high try reduce the number might help

Op may likely never return to this forum as this same user, not to talk of him or her responding to any comment on this thread.
Taking a look at his account history, op logged out of this forum minutes or hours later after signing up here, and making this post, if he or she had or has any intention of coming back here, he or she wouldn't have signed out/logged out of the forum.

Him logging out alone is a enough proof that he is nothing but a scammer, no one should make the mistake of contacting him since he will only look for a way to scam such a person, and I am also very convinced that this forum is not the only place he made this same post.

What a sewer rat scammer trying to runaway with casino account of other players. It’s good that you spend time entertaining this clown with his terms and reveal what’s his real goal for all the shenanigans that he posted here.

He forgot that casino usually track his IP so if he personally use someone account using his own IP, there’s a high chance that the new account will be limit again so his his best option is to let someone trusted bet on his position if he is a genuine bettor that looking for an account to bet.

There’s a risk on both parties that makes this kind of deal useless to do.

Most of those who claimed that they have a working method to win bets in any of the sports have ended up making false claims and attempts to lure potential victims As such, anything you want to say about having a strategy that works on sports bets then you will have to share all the details about that, between no one should try contacting the ops and whatever he want to say should be discussed here on this thread and with evidence, let see if ops responds to any of the comments on this thread.

Guess OP is back into lurking mode waiting for someone to byte this trivial scam attempt.

@memehunter good job for taking some of your free time to check what OP intentions were, thanks to you we can state it is 100% a scam : OP states things like

and

but once contacted via telegram he shows that he has very clear ideas about what he wants to implement.

I feel for you and I wish it's true, but at the same time, I warn people to be careful, a post like this is not the first on the forum. It's the same pattern of claiming they've had that foolproof strategy and results and trying to lure people to connect with them within and outside the forum. Who knows what transpires afterwards?

Regardless, if your story is true, we have thousands of casinos/sportsbooks around the world, I am sure you wouldn't have used 200 of them yet, you should continue moving money to new ones and continue winning as claimed. A simple search or following online reviewing sites will list enough of them for you.

if it is true that OP should provide accurate details not just written statements. because there are no facts OP will only be labeled a fraudster
btw previously I read our colleague's comments, OP is really an unreliable fraudster,
sometimes I think if it is true that he has a fair strategy and victory why would the badar party want to withhold our rights, if we play fairly not cheating, I am confused

If you bothered reading some of the posts above as @memehunter mentioned, you wouldn't waste your time offering op such helpful tips. The dude is a scammer and his dumb attempt was totally exposed.

Also, sportsbooks do limit consistent winners which is a common thing and it happened to me too in few sites. Do your research.

Thanks for the kind words. Whenever I find something wrong, some part of me gets restless, so I am only calming myself. . May be this will get better in the future (hope not).

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Please try to read at least a couple of posts before typing. You will have a better grasp on what's going on.

1.You spend 18 hours a day on the computer? This isn't healthy... Get a life and start exercising before it's too late.
2.Have you ever thought about using Polymarket or other prediction markets? I know that Polymarket accepts sports betting.
3.Why the bookies are limiting you? Limiting a player just because he is winning seems completely wrong. Did you break the Terms of Service of those sports betting platforms? Did you find a way to scam them or something?
I wouldn't advise you to trust other people placing bets for you. I'm 99% sure that most of them would just run away with the profits.

I now see that this is a scam opportunity, but let me just answer the question for anyone wondering about this specific thing:


No, they are VIP's, you're not a VIP because you're just taking, you're not giving, you have zero value for the business so they limit you in order to lower the amount of noise you're creating.

To give you an example, if you would enter a store every day for 7 days and taking 30 beers in your basket to the cashier, but in the end just tell them that you'll want 1 beer and they should return the other 29, after those 7 days they would get sick of you and limit you to 1 beer can per basket.

This is what is happening here.

Sportsbook and casino businesses are here to make money, if you limit their method of making money, they will limit your method of making money, that's just the harsh truth.

What you need to do is the following:
#1. Stick to one and only one platform, we are all connected and share data between each other, if we smell arbitrage, you'll get in trouble. Go through KYC. If you've done all of that, now you're marked as trusted.
#2. Share the wealth, if you won 10k on sportsbook, go to their casino platform and lose 1k on slots, now you have a good Profit & Loss sheet with the casino (P&L).
#3. After losing 5k on slots ping customer support and ask them for a VIP manager to get back to you, ask for a 10% cashback bonus on that lost money, now you have the contact of the VIP manager + some bonus on your account. Make sure to spend all of that bonus on slots to pump up your P&L.
#4. Don't be predictable, only cheaters are predicable. Mix up your deposits and bets, keep an excel sheet to track all the different numbers, this is important, don't trust your brain to invent new numbers with every bet, you'll fail at it.

Now that you're trusted, not predictable, and have a good P&L - ask the VIP manager to increase the bets.

Ideally have an excel sheet for these things and track everything, because we surely do track what you're doing, and if the ADPU (average deposit per user) doesn't have a good ARPU (average revenue per user), we'll just limit you because you  sound like trouble.

Thank you so much for your creative intelligence in exposing his cheating process to everyone. When I first read his post, I thought maybe he was talking so positively about himself to deceive people.

Everyone stay away, no one will fall for his deception.

Although turning $4,000 to $180,000 doesn't seem to be real but if you are legit you want to try Bitcoin-Betting.com Anonymous, great odds and you'll never be limited.

We have to be more careful on enticing stories that are nothing but fake and with the n=intention to deceive on others, at least there should be something serving as an evidence to use as proof over all these claims, but obviously there is none, also, when we listen carefully to stories, we are going to discover that the truth is far from them because they are too real to be true.

OR MONEY LAUNDERING!! SOMEONE PROPOUSED ME TO GIVE ME CRYPTO TO BET FOR HIM WIDRAW MONEY AND SEND TO HIM IN CRYPTO AFTER THAT HE WILL GIVE ME 35% (OFF COURSE NEVER,) THEN I ASKED HIM: MONEY LAUNDERING RIGHT? HE SAID YES LMAOOOO
I am sure OP IS A CRIMINAL USING PEOPLE ACCOUNTS AS MONEY-MULLER...BE CAREFUL GUYS YOU COULD GO TO JAIL FOR THIS ..DON'T FALL FOR THIS BS STORY...!!

Ofc bookies can limit your stakes if you win too much but this is not the case here.

I spot the red flags from the very beginning and that was why I was hesitant to comment on this thread waiting to see what others would feel about the thread, but what I just picked up with things online is that anyone claiming to find a way to beat a particular system and advertising online is poorly attempt to scam.


For that anytime I see these types of claims and offers I usually avoid them, alit of gullible internet users have fallen for these traps before, so we have to be vigilant all the time

I find it hard to believe that casinos would be limited the bets of people just for having a high winning percentage.  Certainly this isn't something that Stake has done to you.  I could see maybe some of the smaller ones...  Everyone has runs of good luck though and it can be great until it isn't anymore.  Casinos know this.  They wouldn't stop people who are up from gambling, then they would always be losers.  The more you win the more they want you at the tables giving back those winnings.

This is obvious scam, also some people use this method as money lundering!!
It's called money-muller so be carefull you can get arested for this.

EDIT 2: Someone propused me the same deal om telegram

It was an attempt to scam people, @memehunter had already posted a conversation with @OP on Telegram, and @yahoo62278 reiterated such stuff.  @OP great words in the beginning of this thread is way to make him look good and make the readers think he is capable but someone in the earlier post exposed his scheme.  Instead of giving a tip about certain matches, @OP wanted to access the account to test the "betting limit" and so on which just like @yahoo62278 stated, was a red flag.

Hopefully no one falls for this kind of scam attempt.

Am sure there are times also that things wouldn't have been smiling at you and then you record some reasonable amount of losses at the cause of the year, but i think your persistence and commitment to improving on your gambling strategy help in getting to where you are, though you may also have to include some of the evidence to all these claims.


Even your telegram username can be added to your forum profile if you can edit it and wouldn't mind any random person chatting you up, well that is to your own choice anyway.

No evidence and some other stuff posted by posters above clearly imply that your story isn't as legit as you are trying to make it out to be op. Too many red flags in your case which is why I don't trust you.

Also, someone who could turn 4 grand into 180 grand would easily figure out how to find new options to continue increasing his/her profit margin.

Well scripted OP. I was wondering if you know where you are saying all this stuff expecting members to believe you. Do you not have friends that you gamble with? you could use their account since you know them and they know you at least some level of trust must have been built over the years so they would not need to worry or fear your disappearance with their account. However, there are other big casinos that you could try if the ones you are registered with have disappointed you or restricted or limited you from their casino.

Nevertheless, it is natural that we humans are quite gregarious and would always keep things of this nature from the public, and looking at all you have said, I believe this should be your hustle, and in the normal sense, you would want to keep it a secrete to yourself alone so that it does not get exposed and your strategies get leaked which would also affect you In the long run.

I am pretty sure that this way of thinking is OP's goal. If it's a money laundering operation, OP is looking for accounts that can be used to gamble with. And if it's another kind of scam, OP is looking for people wanting to invest in these "never ending profits"

It's a possibility that this was a genuine question and OP was just being lucky and limited, and answering to him about more casinos offering good limits wouldn't hurt.

First, I am thinking that if you were able to turn  $4k to $180k as you claimed, you will not even come on the forum to share this post because you do have a lot of people living in your world whom you can ask to pay you so you can give them what ever the strategy is and secondly if you are for real, you will not hesitate to share the images of how you managed to turn $4k to $180k.

Yeah, only a backward thinker will fail to get the clear picture of what op was or is driving at here, the fact that at the end of his post, he did not fail to talk about those that may want to contact him; give a clear picture that he was indeed, expecting some gullible gamblers to contact him to possibly show them how to they too can become winners like himself, and one signature this scammers never fail at is the mentioning of Telegram, and how they indirectly advice their potential victims to contact them off the forum  private messaging service.

Anyways, another clear indication that op is indeed a scammer is that, if he was legitimate, he did be here trying to atleast defend himself with some kind of proves, but he won't do this, because this is what scanners are known for, they make a post, provide a means through which they can be contacted privately, and then zoom off, never to show up or even reply to that post again..

Your limitation is as a results of not passing KYC and if you do pass kyc i don't think any gambling site would have restricts you just like that, knowing too well that you do not violates any rules from the gambling site. Of course this is a scam attempt because even stake.com you said doesn't restricts after you pass their kyc. However, there are series of gambling site here you can use without being restricted for any reason provided you would pass kyc, and know too well that no way or methods is reliable for gambling winning because if you think you found a way to win then you must be dreaming because they are not automatic way to secure winning and gambling is a game of chances/luck.

You should probably look at the telegram convo posted by memehunter. The OP wanting to control your account is red flag #1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 and more lol. He is just looking for idiots to run his scam on and hope you're dumb enough to let him access you account with funds in it.

He also made the post and logged out 4 minutes later never to be seen again.

Yep, basically this.

I am pretty sure this is some sort of scam attempt by OP as well. I would not trust my money, account, telegram contact or anything else to this guy.

And I am glad to see some community members here who are still vigilant and know what to look out for. Good for you guys.

I don't think there is any casino around where a player can't be limited if he is constantly winning to the extent the casino begins to see or perceive the player as a threat to their finances.

I do not completely believe the op to be honest, I feel there is a different motive to why he created this post, we have seen his type before here on several occasions, they come claiming to be so good that casinos are limiting their account, this they do to attract the attention of frustrated gamblers who hardly wins, to contact them seeking out help, they in turn promise to provide the fraustrated gambler with game to bet on at a price which the fraustrated gambler must pay first, the fraustrated gambler end up being scammed at the end of the day.

So, don't take this dude serious, casinos will always limited gamblers who are found to be always and constantly winning, because mathematically, it's impossible for a gambler to always at all time, Win every single bet he or she places.

Nice try. Honour and profit lie not in one sack 

So I even went one more step ahead to expose OP. I contacted him via telegram to see how clever of a scammer he is but unfortunately, he is not so bright.
Behold everyone, hold your breath! (try not to die laughing ) here is the master plan of OP ;

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Don't forget to apply red paint properly

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EDIT: OP deleted chat  . But little does he know I have every word recorded. Run away from this forum just like I said earlier.

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This is what OP should do rather than posting here looking for someone to do what you want for the sake of earning money through the thing that you have just found. Asking friends to borrow their account would be the best choice for someone who wants to bet using the method that OP wanted to use. I wonder why OP came here for this reason. I don't think many people will trust OP after reading the post.

Well as others have said, if you have such a sure fire and reproducible strategy then you should have no problem showing your friends how it is done - even if you gave them 20% to use their accounts you'd be making big bank. How exactly are you seeing people making $100k bets on Ladbrokes? As far as I know that is all private information that they don't share anywhere, no idea if Stake offers up that kind of information though. You should also note that a $100k bet might be pocket change to a select group of high rollers and those high rollers will be turning over enough bets, probably at a marginal loss, that the bookmakers keep them around and even woo them for future business.

I wonder why every other newcomer starts with these exact lines.

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Lol, that was quick almost your second line of this long post. You made sure that your target audience do not miss
No one who found a way to make infinite money will reveal such details to the public (especially in this forum full of wise members). You could have asked this question more without mentioning the 'almost exact nature of method' and your imaginary bankroll-building skills.

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I will expose you here. Run because you will dig a deeper hole for yourself by replying.

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I do not doubt that this is a pathetic scam attempt.

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EDIT: Even if he suggests some sports betting tips to you and does not ask for money upfront (profit sharing basis), do not trust him he has no method. Chances are he is randomly telling you any tips.

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Yeah, having bookies limit how much you can win sucks.  You know your stuff and want to make bank, but they wont let you and  it sucks.  You could scout out new bookies online - there are many bookies that accept new customers. You can try searching for "high roller bookies" or "bookies that accept large bets."  Might find some spots willing to let you toss down more cash. 

Theres also betting exchanges, where you bet against other gamblers instead of the house.  Lets you do your thing without limitations from the book.  This can even give you more flexibility and better odds.

At least his topic is interesting because it is not spammed yet by random shitposts and some other skilled bettors like you have come to share their experience. Do you think he's true when he says "I decided to give a few popular crypto bookies a try, and those have limited me even faster." BTW?
Betting exchanges could be a solution for him indeed, but they are not available for many users of many locations unfortunately. Regarding bet brokers, I've read some testimonials not always very good TBH.

Amazing I recently made a post about a similar (or maybe exactly same) topic.


You experienced a very similar situation to what I have described above.

I have a question though. Did they let you walk away with that earned $180k or did they bring any trouble? If they let you keep your profits then that’s a lot of money to win from gambling. Gz. My faith in the industry has been restored.

Still though, they didn’t let you earn forever like you had a job there. Many people dream of becoming a full time gambler and your post should be a wake up call.

Well, it’s the same thought I had when I first read the post - but I just decided to believe since there are people out there who might be making this via gambling.



I have read about brokers and even seen a newbie account claiming to be one; but what I have always harbored in my mind is if it’s really safe? You know giving money to a gambling broker to help you with your bets because of limits in your account seems like a risky move. Have you had experience with it?

I'm going to be honest, this looks like a very well written attempted scam post.
Trying to get people here to add your telegram then asking them to freeroll for you, just based on your last paragraph you do not seem sharp at all.

If it's not a scam post, then just use pinnacle, bookmaker or betting exchanges that don't limit you, like everyone with an edge does.
Pinnacle do not constantly ask for documents, at least in my case I provided once and never had to worry again, I've been using them for 5 years.
You can also use a betbroker for pinnacle like betinasia, bet-ibc, drinbet that use agent accounts, so you don't need to provide documents to pinnacle.

So, you find a good betting method and now the casinos are locking the amount of your bets, for that you can ask to your friends if they can loan their accounts to you.

Or Another way is to use a casino that will not limit your betting amount, some good option are meta win or stake.

Hi guys. Long time lurker, first time poster.

Over the course of the 12 months, I think I've found an edge with soccer betting. Specifically goal totals and team totals. I mostly target full match, second half totals, and specific team totals. In these 12 months, I've managed to turn a starting bankroll of $4,000 into a little over $180,000.

The issue I am facing now is that most of the legal bookies I have used, including but not limited to: bet365, betano, betway, fanduel, draftkings etc, have limited my bets to pennies or a few dollars per bet, even for the well known leagues. I decided to give a few popular crypto bookies a try, and those have limited me even faster. The only bookie that has not limited me is pinnacle, but they have been giving me issues with cashing out and are consistently delaying my withdrawals/asking for documentation.

So the question is, what would you do in my situation? Please do not say Vegas because I don't think I am at that level yet, especially considering I am still in college and currently studying. I'm mostly an introvert as well and spend 18 hrs a day on the computer. I find myself constantly looking for good betting opportunities and think I could do this full time in the future, I just don't know how. With bookies clearly limiting winners, I'm not sure where to turn. I've read about Haralabos Voulgaris and how he used to have "beards" place bets for him, including Floyd Mayweather, but I don't know how I would go about doing that.

Any advice would be appreciated. I am mostly just looking for advice or stories from people in a similar situation. I'm not winning at a 100% win rate either, but out of lets say 4 bets, I am consistently able to win 3/4. Some days I would even just place 1 "safe bet", and if that safe bet won, I would call it a day, or if it lost, I would double down on the next and take my winnings and run. The only issue is that many of the bookies I have used have limited me to the point where even if I lost just $500, I would be unable to place $1,000 on the next bet. It's super frustrating, especially with a bankroll of over $180,000. Yet I was just scrolling through sites like Ladbrokes and Stake, and I see some people placing $100,000+ bets per match. How is this possible?

Are these people sponsored or something?

Please keep discussion in this forum as I am unable to respond to DMs as a newbie. I do have a Telegram account for those looking to have a more in depth chat, but I am not sure if I am allowed to post it here (same username as BitcoinTalk).