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What firmware mods do you guys recommend for Antminer L3+?


Other than stock, have only used HiveOS so far but I like it.  Way more customizable than stock.  If you are not into manually dialing it in, it has a auto tune option that works well. 
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What firmware mods do you guys recommend for Antminer L3+?
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I'm also looking to buy an L3+. I've been exchanging messages with sellers on Alibaba, and while the price is better than Ebay, I have no idea on the quality of machine I'll be getting or if it will show up at all. Any advice on finding one or dealing with Alibaba sellers? Pricing seems to vary daily and single unit purchases don't command much bargaining power.

It's really bad, I'm here in ASIA, and I get screwed.

Here's the scam, u order, must pre-pay, then they tell u they're out, or don't have, then you have to cancel order, then alibaba takes 10% to keep for order processing. That is just if your lucky.

Here's the deal, even if they do ship something, it might be just a box of parts, or not even as advertised, so then you return right? Well not so easy, you must wait for alibaba to judge the case, they always rule in favor of seller, as almost all companys on alibaba are owned by alibaba.

I could go on, hope you get the idea.

I might also add the return process is terrible, you must pay, it might be as much as $200 USD to return a box say 20LBS to China, and then they can just deny tracking, they can also send you a return address that is a black-hole, alibaba  just doesn't care, they got their cut, they're done, when you made the order, they make the same whether the order is processed, or not. Now here is even worse baba-ant, now own most the western credit card companys, so its not even possible to dispute a chargeback, as they'll rule in baba favor

Amazon is still good, baba is not

...

Now how to do this right.

1.) Talk directly to seller, ask do you have this product yes or no? Ask for photos and serial numbers of the machine
2.) verify
3.) Make it clear you will deposit, but not pay balance until shipped, before final payment demand more photo's, make sure they match earlier serials
4.) Order from baba, but make it clear to everybody on the order your terms, the serial number, and the means of shipping

There are many scams like shipping, if u didn't pay to the door, then they route your shipment through their consigner in the USA who might charge $500 for a $100 thingy, nothing you can do, because u agreed to pay import charges. Most of the chains inbound&outbound are all owned by these companys, so they can scam you a 1,000 different ways.

Here's the bad news, most HDD's and GPUS and miners are now gone, over the years I too have tried to order s19's and L's many times, and simply every time the order got cancelled; Most of this stuff doesn't exist, they're just scamming suckers, if they know you know the game early on, they'll usually just ignore,

Worst of all is once you click, order u must pay ALIBABA their full-cut on the deal whether the order takes place, or returned or not, the system is a 100% scam, that's why u see all the non-existant product for sale, because it doesn't exist, and they get paid when you order.

How to win? Not sure, you can't complain to credit card company, because they have 100 different ways to cheat, here's an example I cancelled an order and stopped visa payment, they reapplied the charge, but ran it  through a restaurant in NY, when I called the credit-card company they said "U can't get your money back on eating food", I said this was not that order, that this was a re-application of the same refund same amount earlier, to which the credit card company said "It says right here xyz restuarant" your card. The way they pull this is most of this stuff has 60-90 day limit, and then you can't process the fund return.

Last time I ordered a GPU I clicked once, they processed two order 5 minutes apart. I asked to cancel one, they said "U must get the seller to accept the cancel", I said I just clicked once, they said "No it says right here you order 5 minutes apart". So I ended up getting stuck with two orders, that ended up getting cancelled cuz the seller finally admitted he didn't have the product,and sure enough ali got to keep their cut, and the credit card company said "U agreed to their terms on the order".


Thanks for the detailed reply and your sharing of your experiences. The photos of serial numbers is a good suggestion, but probably more important is figuring out how to get them to accept payment on verification of goods. Sounds like if I go forward I need to find someone who will accept escrow.

The power draw is the kill off for me, 800w to get 7$ per day? No that's paying too much for electricity when 230watt GPU can get you exact or but more $$ for lower power draw, anyways it's a good deal if you have free electricity or cheaper electricity

Mining started off as a hobby for me back in 2018 and I've slowly accumulated graphics cards. I'm up to 9 now and wish I was more aggressive before prices went crazy. I agree, the asic power draw does hold me back a bit, that's why the L3 is more attractive to me than some of the other options. At 800W It will run on a standard US household electrical circuit before firmware mods and I've been thinking about playing around with some of the mods I've seen to reduce noise. In over half the year it might double as a nice space heater if I can cut back on the noise, if not, it lives a the garage. I've considered the S9s as well and they might work for me, but consume more power coming a bit too close to capacity for a standard circuit. They also are barely profitable at the moment so not as attractive.
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I'm also looking to buy an L3+. I've been exchanging messages with sellers on Alibaba, and while the price is better than Ebay, I have no idea on the quality of machine I'll be getting or if it will show up at all. Any advice on finding one or dealing with Alibaba sellers? Pricing seems to vary daily and single unit purchases don't command much bargaining power.

It's really bad, I'm here in ASIA, and I get screwed.

Here's the scam, u order, must pre-pay, then they tell u they're out, or don't have, then you have to cancel order, then alibaba takes 10% to keep for order processing. That is just if your lucky.

Here's the deal, even if they do ship something, it might be just a box of parts, or not even as advertised, so then you return right? Well not so easy, you must wait for alibaba to judge the case, they always rule in favor of seller, as almost all companys on alibaba are owned by alibaba.

I could go on, hope you get the idea.

I might also add the return process is terrible, you must pay, it might be as much as $200 USD to return a box say 20LBS to China, and then they can just deny tracking, they can also send you a return address that is a black-hole, alibaba  just doesn't care, they got their cut, they're done, when you made the order, they make the same whether the order is processed, or not. Now here is even worse baba-ant, now own most the western credit card companys, so its not even possible to dispute a chargeback, as they'll rule in baba favor

Amazon is still good, baba is not

...

Now how to do this right.

1.) Talk directly to seller, ask do you have this product yes or no? Ask for photos and serial numbers of the machine
2.) verify
3.) Make it clear you will deposit, but not pay balance until shipped, before final payment demand more photo's, make sure they match earlier serials
4.) Order from baba, but make it clear to everybody on the order your terms, the serial number, and the means of shipping

There are many scams like shipping, if u didn't pay to the door, then they route your shipment through their consigner in the USA who might charge $500 for a $100 thingy, nothing you can do, because u agreed to pay import charges. Most of the chains inbound&outbound are all owned by these companys, so they can scam you a 1,000 different ways.

Here's the bad news, most HDD's and GPUS and miners are now gone, over the years I too have tried to order s19's and L's many times, and simply every time the order got cancelled; Most of this stuff doesn't exist, they're just scamming suckers, if they know you know the game early on, they'll usually just ignore,

Worst of all is once you click, order u must pay ALIBABA their full-cut on the deal whether the order takes place, or returned or not, the system is a 100% scam, that's why u see all the non-existant product for sale, because it doesn't exist, and they get paid when you order.

How to win? Not sure, you can't complain to credit card company, because they have 100 different ways to cheat, here's an example I cancelled an order and stopped visa payment, they reapplied the charge, but ran it  through a restaurant in NY, when I called the credit-card company they said "U can't get your money back on eating food", I said this was not that order, that this was a re-application of the same refund same amount earlier, to which the credit card company said "It says right here xyz restuarant" your card. The way they pull this is most of this stuff has 60-90 day limit, and then you can't process the fund return.

Last time I ordered a GPU I clicked once, they processed two order 5 minutes apart. I asked to cancel one, they said "U must get the seller to accept the cancel", I said I just clicked once, they said "No it says right here you order 5 minutes apart". So I ended up getting stuck with two orders, that ended up getting cancelled cuz the seller finally admitted he didn't have the product,and sure enough ali got to keep their cut, and the credit card company said "U agreed to their terms on the order".


lol you try to buy Asics or GPU´s on alibaba? Ok now i understand why are you so angry and spread bad vibes XD

But -> you get what you deserve -> it's called karma  Cheesy
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The power draw is the kill off for me, 800w to get 7$ per day? No that's paying too much for electricity when 230watt GPU can get you exact or but more $$ for lower power draw, anyways it's a good deal if you have free electricity or cheaper electricity
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I'm also looking to buy an L3+. I've been exchanging messages with sellers on Alibaba, and while the price is better than Ebay, I have no idea on the quality of machine I'll be getting or if it will show up at all. Any advice on finding one or dealing with Alibaba sellers? Pricing seems to vary daily and single unit purchases don't command much bargaining power.

It's really bad, I'm here in ASIA, and I get screwed.

Here's the scam, u order, must pre-pay, then they tell u they're out, or don't have, then you have to cancel order, then alibaba takes 10% to keep for order processing. That is just if your lucky.

Here's the deal, even if they do ship something, it might be just a box of parts, or not even as advertised, so then you return right? Well not so easy, you must wait for alibaba to judge the case, they always rule in favor of seller, as almost all companys on alibaba are owned by alibaba.

I could go on, hope you get the idea.

I might also add the return process is terrible, you must pay, it might be as much as $200 USD to return a box say 20LBS to China, and then they can just deny tracking, they can also send you a return address that is a black-hole, alibaba  just doesn't care, they got their cut, they're done, when you made the order, they make the same whether the order is processed, or not. Now here is even worse baba-ant, now own most the western credit card companys, so its not even possible to dispute a chargeback, as they'll rule in baba favor

Amazon is still good, baba is not

...

Now how to do this right.

1.) Talk directly to seller, ask do you have this product yes or no? Ask for photos and serial numbers of the machine
2.) verify
3.) Make it clear you will deposit, but not pay balance until shipped, before final payment demand more photo's, make sure they match earlier serials
4.) Order from baba, but make it clear to everybody on the order your terms, the serial number, and the means of shipping

There are many scams like shipping, if u didn't pay to the door, then they route your shipment through their consigner in the USA who might charge $500 for a $100 thingy, nothing you can do, because u agreed to pay import charges. Most of the chains inbound&outbound are all owned by these companys, so they can scam you a 1,000 different ways.

Here's the bad news, most HDD's and GPUS and miners are now gone, over the years I too have tried to order s19's and L's many times, and simply every time the order got cancelled; Most of this stuff doesn't exist, they're just scamming suckers, if they know you know the game early on, they'll usually just ignore,

Worst of all is once you click, order u must pay ALIBABA their full-cut on the deal whether the order takes place, or returned or not, the system is a 100% scam, that's why u see all the non-existant product for sale, because it doesn't exist, and they get paid when you order.

How to win? Not sure, you can't complain to credit card company, because they have 100 different ways to cheat, here's an example I cancelled an order and stopped visa payment, they reapplied the charge, but ran it  through a restaurant in NY, when I called the credit-card company they said "U can't get your money back on eating food", I said this was not that order, that this was a re-application of the same refund same amount earlier, to which the credit card company said "It says right here xyz restuarant" your card. The way they pull this is most of this stuff has 60-90 day limit, and then you can't process the fund return.

Last time I ordered a GPU I clicked once, they processed two order 5 minutes apart. I asked to cancel one, they said "U must get the seller to accept the cancel", I said I just clicked once, they said "No it says right here you order 5 minutes apart". So I ended up getting stuck with two orders, that ended up getting cancelled cuz the seller finally admitted he didn't have the product,and sure enough ali got to keep their cut, and the credit card company said "U agreed to their terms on the order".
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I'm also looking to buy an L3+. I've been exchanging messages with sellers on Alibaba, and while the price is better than Ebay, I have no idea on the quality of machine I'll be getting or if it will show up at all. Any advice on finding one or dealing with Alibaba sellers? Pricing seems to vary daily and single unit purchases don't command much bargaining power.
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I just got my 3rd one.  Problem is finding them at a decent price now.  I bought 2 of them for $1200 total about 6 weeks ago when they were making $15/day each, which I know was a steal.  I paid more for the 3rd one I just got than I did the first 2 total, which in hindsight I wish I hadn't but had the itch to get another and was tired of scouring every site looking for a deal.

Like phil, I love these things though.  Just updated firmware on all 3 today and went from 540mh@915W to 560mh@800W.  Since they are using less power, was also cooler, so was able to drop fans down even more and cut back on the noise too.  Parts of me was hoping the earnings would drop even lower for a bit so I could pick up a few more at a discount. 
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Is it worth getting some Antminer L3+ to mine LTC + Dogecoins?

I am thinking to mine in poolin pool. It currently yields $7usd per day?

800W machine?

It looks good and even the minerstat website says it makes 9.xx USD daily and after removing the power cost it nets you some 7.XX USD daily.I checked ebay and the price of these machines have again got up in price.
It is funny as once before a few years in my country you could have bought these from mad people that lost money and thought these devices are not for anything any more,for just 50 Euros.I did the same mistake to think the same as those persons back then.From this I conclude sometimes it is better to spend 50-100 Euros to buy such kind of devices when they are completely in a loss.

i bought 2x for 100€ last year  Cheesy

I bought 4 s9s in dec 2018 and the guy said please take these 3 l3+ off my hands (free)

Needless to say the l3+ have simply been amazing.
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Is it worth getting some Antminer L3+ to mine LTC + Dogecoins?

I am thinking to mine in poolin pool. It currently yields $7usd per day?

800W machine?

It looks good and even the minerstat website says it makes 9.xx USD daily and after removing the power cost it nets you some 7.XX USD daily.I checked ebay and the price of these machines have again got up in price.
It is funny as once before a few years in my country you could have bought these from mad people that lost money and thought these devices are not for anything any more,for just 50 Euros.I did the same mistake to think the same as those persons back then.From this I conclude sometimes it is better to spend 50-100 Euros to buy such kind of devices when they are completely in a loss.

i bought 2x for 100€ last year  Cheesy
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Is it worth getting some Antminer L3+ to mine LTC + Dogecoins?

I am thinking to mine in poolin pool. It currently yields $7usd per day?

800W machine?

It looks good and even the minerstat website says it makes 9.xx USD daily and after removing the power cost it nets you some 7.XX USD daily.I checked ebay and the price of these machines have again got up in price.
It is funny as once before a few years in my country you could have bought these from mad people that lost money and thought these devices are not for anything any more,for just 50 Euros.I did the same mistake to think the same as those persons back then.From this I conclude sometimes it is better to spend 50-100 Euros to buy such kind of devices when they are completely in a loss.
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Is it worth getting some Antminer L3+ to mine LTC + Dogecoins?

I am thinking to mine in poolin pool. It currently yields $7usd per day?

800W machine?
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