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Topic: Third USMS Auction Winners, Still Not Revealed (Read 1395 times)

legendary
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Some said the winning price is around 290$~300$, a little bit higher than market price, that's what auctions always do.

The USMS auction is gone, Now pay more attention to another big sale : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/australian-govt-to-sell-24500-btc-992194
hero member
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Richard Coleman - Chief Executive @ CloudThink.IO
I mean, I read it yesterday that one of the winners (3rd) was itBit from New York
http://bitforum.info/t/and-the-third-winner-for-the-usms-auction-is-itbit/400

But two of the big winners still did not reveal themselves
http://bitforum.info/t/third-usms-auction-winners-still-not-revealed/397

I mean, I was following this news since USMS announced that there will be a 3rd auction.

I know that Draper will be there, Silbert's SecondMarket will be there, Pantera Capital will be there.

But as of this moment there is still no official news about the two big winners.

I mean, do they get something when they do not reveal themeselves to the public? For me, if they are a business entity, revealing that they won the auction can actually help them.

The latest was that the BTC were already transferred to each of the winners.

The winners just want a privacy and security with their winnings.
Maybe its not a company who won.
They obviously want privacy regarding the price they paid as if the price were to be public then they would be at a disadvantage in any trading discussions/negotiations with any potential trading partner in the future.

They generally will also not want their identity revealed because doing so could subject them to potential attack attempts
full member
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I mean, I read it yesterday that one of the winners (3rd) was itBit from New York
http://bitforum.info/t/and-the-third-winner-for-the-usms-auction-is-itbit/400

But two of the big winners still did not reveal themselves
http://bitforum.info/t/third-usms-auction-winners-still-not-revealed/397

I mean, I was following this news since USMS announced that there will be a 3rd auction.

I know that Draper will be there, Silbert's SecondMarket will be there, Pantera Capital will be there.

But as of this moment there is still no official news about the two big winners.

I mean, do they get something when they do not reveal themeselves to the public? For me, if they are a business entity, revealing that they won the auction can actually help them.

The latest was that the BTC were already transferred to each of the winners.

The winners just want a privacy and security with their winnings.
Maybe its not a company who won.
legendary
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Merit: 3000
Terminated.
Your right there is a lot of theads about this topic going on but i would also like to know who won the majority of BTC.
Who wins may give a small clue as to what they will do with the coins,
i.e. dump them straight on a exchange at first sight of profit because they have no interest in BTC whatsoever.

If it was Draper or Rodger Ver (although the US probably wouldn't sell to him) you know they are guys who have the intrest of bitcoin at heart before profits.

Never heard of Larry Dean Silvey before so i hope his into BTC and not just looking for a quick buck.
They have probably bought quite higher than the current market price. Even if they're intending to dump those coins, they will have to wait a while to do so.
member
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I mean, I read it yesterday that one of the winners (3rd) was itBit from New York
http://bitforum.info/t/and-the-third-winner-for-the-usms-auction-is-itbit/400

But two of the big winners still did not reveal themselves
http://bitforum.info/t/third-usms-auction-winners-still-not-revealed/397

I mean, I was following this news since USMS announced that there will be a 3rd auction.

I know that Draper will be there, Silbert's SecondMarket will be there, Pantera Capital will be there.

But as of this moment there is still no official news about the two big winners.

I mean, do they get something when they do not reveal themeselves to the public? For me, if they are a business entity, revealing that they won the auction can actually help them.

The latest was that the BTC were already transferred to each of the winners.

Still no update about the first and second winner?
hero member
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Is the United States Marshal Service legally obliged to keep the winners names secret?
No but both the names of the winners and the price the winners paid is the government equivilent of a trade secret. This information is not something that the bidders would likely want to be made public and if it was made public then they would likely not want to bid on similar auctions in the future which would cause the government to get less money for the property they sell
newbie
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I mean, I read it yesterday that one of the winners (3rd) was itBit from New York
http://bitforum.info/t/and-the-third-winner-for-the-usms-auction-is-itbit/400

But two of the big winners still did not reveal themselves
http://bitforum.info/t/third-usms-auction-winners-still-not-revealed/397

I mean, I was following this news since USMS announced that there will be a 3rd auction.

I know that Draper will be there, Silbert's SecondMarket will be there, Pantera Capital will be there.

But as of this moment there is still no official news about the two big winners.

I mean, do they get something when they do not reveal themeselves to the public? For me, if they are a business entity, revealing that they won the auction can actually help them.

The latest was that the BTC were already transferred to each of the winners.

Well revealing there identity would have a positive and negative effects.
Positive: They will become more trust worthy and their reputation will boost.
Negative: They will be prone for attacks

Now, what if they reveal itself and then protect their company securely. To get rid of the negative effects? Right?
legendary
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https://www.bitcoin.com/
How many threads are we going to make about this?
Why is it important to you who won? Exposing the person would make him or her a target of hundreds of hackers. Why would anyone want to expose themselves to risk?
Your right there is a lot of theads about this topic going on but i would also like to know who won the majority of BTC.
Who wins may give a small clue as to what they will do with the coins,
i.e. dump them straight on a exchange at first sight of profit because they have no interest in BTC whatsoever.

If it was Draper or Rodger Ver (although the US probably wouldn't sell to him) you know they are guys who have the intrest of bitcoin at heart before profits.

Never heard of Larry Dean Silvey before so i hope his into BTC and not just looking for a quick buck.
legendary
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Merit: 1005
★Nitrogensports.eu★
I mean, do they get something when they do not reveal themeselves to the public? For me, if they are a business entity, revealing that they won the auction can actually help them.

The latest was that the BTC were already transferred to each of the winners.
How revealing themselves could help them? They already won the auction, have the coins. If they were business entity as you suspected it will actually be beneficial to them that they hide the way they acquired coins. Anyway I really does not matter much for bitcoiners who won and we may never know that.
newbie
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I mean, I read it yesterday that one of the winners (3rd) was itBit from New York
http://bitforum.info/t/and-the-third-winner-for-the-usms-auction-is-itbit/400

But two of the big winners still did not reveal themselves
http://bitforum.info/t/third-usms-auction-winners-still-not-revealed/397

I mean, I was following this news since USMS announced that there will be a 3rd auction.

I know that Draper will be there, Silbert's SecondMarket will be there, Pantera Capital will be there.

But as of this moment there is still no official news about the two big winners.

I mean, do they get something when they do not reveal themeselves to the public? For me, if they are a business entity, revealing that they won the auction can actually help them.

The latest was that the BTC were already transferred to each of the winners.

Winners will emerge eventually.
I think the companies you mentioned did not win in the auction except for itBit who won the third place.
member
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Merit: 10
Is the United States Marshal Service legally obliged to keep the winners names secret?
Don't think they are obliged.
They haven't complied with Freedom Of Information requests for previous winner names. (Although now we know)
sr. member
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Is the United States Marshal Service legally obliged to keep the winners names secret?
legendary
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Terminated.
How many threads are we going to make about this?
Why is it important to you who won? Exposing the person would make him or her a target of hundreds of hackers. Why would anyone want to expose themselves to risk?
legendary
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Merit: 1014
In Satoshi I Trust
or:

Secretive Mining Firm Revealed as Possible US Marshals Auction Winner

http://www.coindesk.com/secretive-mining-firm-revealed-as-possible-us-marshals-auction-winner/
legendary
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Merit: 1014
In Satoshi I Trust
Winner Of 27K Bitcoins Purchased At USMS Auction Revealed

To date, the United States Marshal Service has allegedly held three auctions for a portion of the 144,000 bitcoins confiscated in the wake of the October 2013 Silk Road bust. These auctions are claimed by Qntra to have allegedly occurred due to the continued refusal by the USG to respond to FOIA requests for further information on the alleged winners of the Bitcoin auctions. To that end, Qntra conducted and has now concluded its own investigation into the identity of the winner of the largest sum of bitcoins in the auction held by the USMS on the 5th of March 2015. That person's identity can now be revealed as real estate advisor, property manager, investor and entrepreneur Larry Dean Silvey.

http://qntra.net/2015/03/winner-of-27k-bitcoins-purchased-at-usms-auction-revealed/
legendary
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Why do they have to reveal themselves?

Bitcoin, as a fundamental principle, celebrates anonymity...why do you want to persecute these people for trying to keep theirs?
Bitcoin is pseudonymous, not anonymous, that's how Dread Pirate Roberts was found and how stolen coins can be tracked, even if they are possibly never recoverable.

In this case there is no need for the winners to disclose themselves, but I would bet that within 2 months we will know all of the winners, people with so much money to throw around usually like to tell people about it!
sr. member
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Loose lips sink sigs!
Why do they have to reveal themselves?

Bitcoin, as a fundamental principle, celebrates anonymity...why do you want to persecute these people for trying to keep theirs?
sr. member
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If they want to reveal themselves okay, but we don't have a right to know. Hopefully we they hold what they bought. 
legendary
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Maybe its not good to go public for personal reasons. I am sure Draper is talked about everywhere and asked a lot of questions after his win in the first auction. People also started wooing him as the price dropped after the auction as he lost a lot of money because of it.
newbie
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I mean, I read it yesterday that one of the winners (3rd) was itBit from New York
http://bitforum.info/t/and-the-third-winner-for-the-usms-auction-is-itbit/400

But two of the big winners still did not reveal themselves
http://bitforum.info/t/third-usms-auction-winners-still-not-revealed/397

I mean, I was following this news since USMS announced that there will be a 3rd auction.

I know that Draper will be there, Silbert's SecondMarket will be there, Pantera Capital will be there.

But as of this moment there is still no official news about the two big winners.

I mean, do they get something when they do not reveal themeselves to the public? For me, if they are a business entity, revealing that they won the auction can actually help them.

The latest was that the BTC were already transferred to each of the winners.
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