Topic: this is, how easy it is to scam people (Read 487 times)

I totally understand and respect your ethics and values, but in pure sanity and consciousness, I would like to let you know that this a new way that these scammers have found to scam new users and take advantage of their naivety where they start thinking that they are actually big and experienced while the person asking from the front is just a dumb user.

But mostly, those users who are acting dumb and trying to convince you that they no nothing and also ask you to follow a certain person or join a group that they joined and learned and earned a lot.

The fact that they could not find how to use it in a legit way is beyond recovery. If you are a newbie, and being a newbie in this age is amazing, then you have all the information you want online. You do not have to ask anyone, you could go to google and search for the best ways and you will find the best ways to do it without getting scammed.

But, some people still end up asking others instead of searching for it themselves and that is why they end up getting scammed. This is due to laziness, people who are lazy to do their own work and want everything to be handed to them is the cause for the biggest scams, they don't want to work for it, they want to get it right away.

Yes I also thought that it really looks very strange the woman who messaged OP, I think the woman who messaged OP via Instagram is a scammer and not really a woman who doesn't know anything and so suddenly asks to be taught about Bitcoin to the OP after OP uploaded the Bitcoin image.

It's true that a scammer has a thousand endless ways to deceive us. But in fact, sometimes we can immediately realize that the main pattern of what scammers are doing is definitely things that are striking, seem sudden and seem strange. Sometimes the scammers they will speak like a professional and offer help with seemingly perfect benefits and sometimes they even pose as ignorant and need help like the OP experienced.
If someone we don't know suddenly sends us an unclear message via any social media, we should just ignore it.

The people that scam can be so smart that they make you feel smart and make themselves look like the ones that need your help. They play the lesser role because of how unsuspecting it can be. You will of course trust someone and be more open to a discussion with someone who tells you they want to learn about bitcoins, than someone who tells you that they want to teach you how to invest in bitcoins online. Be careful of the people you give your time to online, be careful of the conversation you have with strangers online and even some of your friends.

This is too weird.  There is a girl who wants money from Bitcoin and she doesn't want to learn anything about Bitcoin but wants to make profit.  That's crazy.  Except he's a super rich guy who doesn't care about his money.  But I don't think so.  Maybe he is a newbie who wants to have immediate success to make money with Bitcoin.  But that's too out of touch with real life.  I think it's like a story in the imagination because there are people like that who do things like that.  Do you also think that this is just a story?

I preferred going for skill other than acquiring education, however they're both good for a citizen because academically, he's well stable and skillfully, he's good with making something incredible with his or her hands. There's enough evidence to backup investments in the market that they need crucial research before investigation. We are urged to know above the dangers of volatile investments in the market, because before the blink of an eye, everything we worked so hard for would be gone in a matter of seconds. Investments is all a anticipating with a solid project, other than dormant one that will drained our accounts.

this is, how easy it is to scam people


Or this - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/the-answers-to-everything-political-two-answers-5445825.

This isn't new in crypto trading, most of their victims are newbie's and those who have low knowledge about it.
To be honest I also received some tempting message below asking for help to withdraw their money on a certain trading site, and when I do some background check on the site and the wallet information that has been sent by those scammer I found out that it is just a way to scam.
They showed that on the trading site they have a huge balance and you just need to deposit a certain amount to withdraw it.

For online jobs education is not necessary but for government job education is necessary because without certifications you cannot proves that you are able to do this job. In our country most of jobs are based on degree that how much education you have obtained.

For investment you don't have to show your education but investment cannot be sure for all the time may be sometime investment become risky for you. I will just say that first complete your education then think about other activities because education is necessary and you can use your education every time when you need it.

his world is full of cruel people and no one knows that a person in front of you is telling a lie or truth, no one can trust anyone. Do you know that the lady who ask you about bitcoin is telling a lie or truth? May be she is asking this but in reality she knows each and everything about it.

Perhaps she is asking for help because ladies are not so brilliant to get the point. If someone is asking for help then guiding is not bad thing because a person can scam you only when you share your keys with him.

According to OP from the story he asked if she has an exchange on her phone but she claimed not to know the meaning of exchange until OP mentioned binance and she remembered to have one on her phone, this made me understand she is just a scammer,  how would one download a binance and know nothing about it, then what is the essence having it on the phone?.

One needs to be very careful with the people they come across online, scammers have different strategies in scamming people. The best way of avoiding being scammeed is to see every strange person that come into the dm as a scammer or suspected scammer.  Because someone who is real can't pm anyone strange for any discussion concerning investment.  Scammers always go after people DM.

Just hours ago someone also contacted me in my Instagram account with the same technique...asking some questions on crypto as if an innocent or a novice one that needs some guidance. However, I know for sure that anyone who is contacting me via DM in Instagram is just selling scams. Don't give these people the chance to enthralled you and get your trust...somehow they know how to take advantage of the connection to their own advantage. I am sure these people are well-trained to victimize people...unfortunate for them am not anymore a newbie with scams as I had been victimized many times before and I already paid my dues.

Currently many people are already tempted by bitcoin because of its fantastic value, but they just want to get profits without thinking about how risky it is if holding bitcoin, not everyone who has been successful today easily to get bitcoin they have learned for so long and also often get losses, so before investing in bitcoin we need to learn first how to use because of what they have got now  There have been so many twists and turns, and learning bitcoin can also avoid fraud cases because this has often happened.

People are quick to join something once they hear the word "guarantee" that they'll get a big return if they join someone who offers money. The trick has been around for a long time, but those who trick others modify it so well that people won't even think it's a scam.

I don't know if she really doesn't know about cryptos or just wants to know what other people think about cryptos. And I think there are still many people who really don't know what bitcoin is and how to make a profit from bitcoin. You can just continue the conversation with her while teaching her about bitcoin and I think she will be very happy if you can teach her about bitcoin for free.

I find it very unfortunate to hear about people being scammed in the cryptocurrency world. While it is true that some people enter the market simply to make quick profits, it is important to remember that there are also many legitimate investors and traders out there.

Regarding the situation you describe, it is clear that the woman who contacted you was new to Bitcoin and had no knowledge of the basics of trading. However, instead of calling him "stupid," it would be helpful if he offered some guidance and education about the risks and opportunities of cryptocurrency.

One solution is to point him to a reputable source of information and encourage him to do his own research before investing money. Yes, I think it's very important to remember that everyone starts somewhere, and with the right support and information, he or she may be able to avoid scams and make smart investment decisions down the road.

conversations like this are still continuing today, but more and more I understand the deception of this mode, I just ignore it without not continuing, sometimes they also don't understand what they are offering, there really is no work for people like this

Here are the pictures for you to see.

Bitcoin is a paradise for scammers in this moment, simply because many people don't know yet how it works. Best to avoid a scam is to educate yourself, but thats not just for bitcoin but also for any other scam out there.

Lol, people are so easy to scam, sometimes I wonder how they live in this world in the first place. You can just write them an email "send me money and I'll give you twice more in 48 hours". I prefer to mock those scammers, but a lot of people actually fall for that.

no deception is good, all deception is evil. Even though they target their victims, there will still be losers when they fall into the trap.
Those who are easily conned with a sizable reward, maybe in an empty state of mind and really need money or those who really don't know how social media works and how to get easy money. Some of the people who are tricked like this even have a higher education.

That is how easy it is to scam people who are none the wiser with how the internet works, more so how bitcoin works for that matter. You're talking and fooling someone who literally has little to know idea about bitcoin, so it wouldn't come as a surprise that they are easily convinced. With information becoming more and more available by the day, this will no longer be the case as everyone would much rather do their own google searches/research first before jumping on a new investment venture.

Also, scams don't cater to everyone, good scams are those that know who their target demographic is. That is why the Nigerian Prince scam, laughable in execution, is still one of the most damaging scams in the US, as some may have pointed out.

I don't blame her because in some circles it's marketed in this way.. You can imagine if you use any of these meta products like Instagram or Facebook you find people claiming to grow your money double or 1000 times and they have been made to believe that's how easy it is to find money when everyone knows that money has to be scarce as one of its properties.

People might seem to be making dumb moves but they could be the smart ones only trying to play dumb.

It looks naturally easy to scam her, but even if you do she might not fall for it if she is smart. She is just curious and not everybody is negatively minded about things in life, you are taught by someone, and it won't be bad to share the knowledge with someone else.

people make dumb mistakes like that because well, they are dumb, no question. But that doesn't warrant you putting them on the spotlight for some weird post to gain clout in this forum. Although I do not think that is your intention really. In any case, scams don't cater to everyone, they have their specific target demographics, and would only ever work for that specific set of people. That's why us, the Nigerian Prince scam is a laughingstock, but for others, they see it as a ticket to a destiny-changing opportunity, only for the small amount of a couple thousand dollars. Scams work because there are people who are gullible. How to fix this? information. Proper information provided by the authority or whoever is really generous to spare time and effort in the case of crypto world is what we need to eradicate people's ignorance and therefore stop scammers from scamming as well.

No scammer if no one could be scammed.

they do this with no despair and they also know that many already know the tricks and ways to do it. Of the many ways of fraud, it is certain that investment offers in new projects with high interest incentives are highly sought after and are excellent.
although it must be admitted that this method of fraud is already known and many already understand. but it must be remembered that of the thousands who read and are sent scam news, of course, we hope that someone will be tempted and willing to accept what they want. of course they only target not many people who can be deceived, because there are indeed many who are literate and know how.
even though there is only one person who can be fooled a day, in terms of quality, of course they really hope to earn big, remember they don't want to stop doing tricks like that, as long as there are still lots of people can be deceived.
why at any time there are still people who can be deceived and they usually don't want to read a lot of information circulating.

Whatever the reason, you should always exercise caution while communicating with someone online because there are numerous frauds operating that use a variety of techniques you might not even be aware of. There are still a lot of beginners who fall victim for this kind of tactics but I don’t seem to understand where the scamming is coming from the coversation. Thus, always be on the lookout and inquire from reliable sources as to whether they are legitimate or scam tactics.

I have a similar story.For almost a week someone has been writing to my telegram and offering to invest in some project at crazy interest and promising huge profits.I understand that this is a 100% scam but let's imagine how many people fall for this trick and how many scammers manage to make money on it.

Looks like she/he doesn't know much about bitcoin or he is just acting dumb. But I don't see any point asking a stranger on Instagram about bitcoin investment or for any financial advice unless she has other intentions.

From my point of view, she thought you are a newbie and she tried to scam you. So I think you need to be more careful about your social media life.

This is one of scammers at least track or get information on potential victims. let alone us who deliberately show our involvement in Bitcoin, they sometimes just do random things and find our accounts. And this is an old mode which may still work in some people. One way is to make the victim believe what he says, promising really interesting and extraordinary results. And of course, for people who don't understand or are inexperienced, it's really tempting and easily attracted. This is the danger in the world of cybercrimes where scammers or hackers can easily influence people to believe in them with false promises about money.

There are quite a few scams going on through social media, ranging from signing up on fake exchanges to social engineering you into sending them your coins after luring you and registering on a valid exchange such as Binance, making the scam look legit. Anyone who contacts you through social media and promises to teach you their money-making method with excessive returns is pretty much a scam. Don't reply to any message and report their profiles; it won't stop them, but it might at least slow them down.

Somehow I doubt that a person with a binance account to be stupid, the process to which you need to go through in order to be able to trade at binance is with some complication that not any ordinary individual is capable of handling it. Moreover I fail to see any gullibility here.

the grey is like how we make reply of that specific message by holding on that text than options comes copy reply delete
so taping reply it becomes grey
hope your doubt will be clear

The third link to an image of the conversation is the same as the first one. There’s either one more image than there should be, or the third link points to the wrong image.

Who said the following ?
Ok, so the white text bubbles are hers then.

nice advice,
newbie should avoid this mistake
to do something unusual a link is enough for them
many threads are there in gambling and fraud section of this forum, there lot of threads are discussed like i clicked the link and my funds are gone

Op, she's not a newbie it's either she's trying to look for an opportunity to invite you to a pump and dumb group chat where they can make money of you when you truly buy whatever coin they might predict the price but the way the conversation went it seems like she was truly a newbie but I'm suspecting that she has an ulterior motive behind her Convo because it's quite rare to see someone message you just because you have Bitcoin logo on your profile pics and truly wants to learn more about Bitcoin.

But Op one thing you should take note of; no matter how amateur they may sound please try as much as possible not to click any link sent to you or maybe she ask you to download some file that contains a problem she's currently trying to fix or what word she might use to mask it. Don't click, don't be cocky and then you do something stupid make sure you're very cautious because you can not tell what's going through some random strangers mind.

I heard a lot of stories about people being scammed in crypto, and all of them are newbies or didn't even have it until they saw a big "opportunity". To be honest, it amazes me how people can be so naive, even tho they can be older than me. It's not about crypto knowledge, it's about goddamn common sense.

The user is just acting like he is a complete newbie to fool you to recruit for his so called mentor service which we all know that lead to scam. This scam scheme is old  but still widely use on social media especially on comment section. They are everywhere and newbie will really fall for it if they don’t have any experience or not aware on how this scammer work.

I read a post on social media that he became a victim of this scheme. Scammer will ask you to fund your trading account which they are the one who will provide and trade for you. They will show you profit at first then they will keep asking you for more  before you can withdraw until you don’t have enough cash they disappear instantly. This is an obvious scam but still there are a lot of newbie out there that being scammed by this poor scam trick.

You also needs to be careful because nowadays scammers are using this kind of technique to decieve people and eventually ended up scamming them, when tou first receives a mail or DM from unknown sources it's a call to be at alert and be careful, you may be tricked and set up, also being a newbie in this category that all you do is to find anything attractive and doubtlessly got into it without proper orientation is a perfect submission to getting scammed, newbies should be aware that it's very risky in making deals with unfamiliar persons or organizations, those you just meet on the social media and got feelings for, they may turn to be what you never expect tomorrow.

I understand what you meant and it is possible this might be the case, but after reading Op, I think I can guess what scenario actually happened.
The woman is a novice following someone's advice and directions, but at a time she wasn't too comfortable with her mentor and she decided to contact random people to seek their opinion if it really agrees or differs from what her teacher teaches her to do.
But in all, this could be leading to scam. Be careful dealing with random people on the internet

I understand OP is trying to explain how easy it is to scam people using the woman as an example. Looking at his explanation in both sides, we can't clearly state who will become the victim. It could be OP or the shiller claiming to be a novice. Op's topic is still in line, because a person who is not experienced may fall for the shiller's con by joining the other account where they'll be ripped off their money. On the other flip, if the woman wasn't a shiller but genuine seeker of what bitcoin is about, Op is trying to inform us how easily she could get scammed. We are all in the cryptocurrency niche together and when we spot a scam we'll know, yet others may not be opportune to detect a fishy investment conversations that's where people perish because they lack information.

But basically, when you first want to know how to get bitcoins, someone will always ask anyone, even if we randomly know them, because maybe they don't know who to ask to tell them.
Yes, even though this condition is prone to fraud, when you meet someone who is honest and willing to help, he will be a lucky person.
Yes, even though today there are lots of tutorials on YouTube or other social media that can be used as guides, sometimes we are confused by the explanations of content creators.

I hope you don't trick him

you didn't read conversation properly and talking about me scamming her, i am just giving you example of people's mind

i didn't try or scam anyone , you seems like rushed to give reply

Oga from what I read from you and the lady's conversation, you cannot scam that lady, she only asked you to guide her how to make money from bitcoin and you are thinking of scamming who needs help from you. Your thought is very bad even though you were not having the intention to do that and by thinking such is bad, if the bad mindset manifest you might do it to other people. I have thought a lot of novice on WhatsApp, Facebook and other social media platforms and I have never thought of even collecting money for the service I rendered to them. And also you have to be careful on Telegram. That lady that was asking to guide her might be an imposter. So you might even be scammed. Be clean in all ramifications of life.

yes,
but the lady was hooked up with her mentor whose account was seems like scammer posting just irrelevant charts and luxury lifestyle,

may these type of person with very less knowledge are less but this was my conversation , may she was trying to scam me who knows.

She is like most of newbies and new comers in cryptocurrency. They are attractive by stories like Bitcoin Pizza but then they believe in Altcoin pizza stories that are not realistic. Very few altcoins can survive after many years and can help them to gain good profit like Ethereum, BNB, Dogecoin. They are barely seen altcoins. Other altcoins only make them poorer.

Nothing is wrong to believe in your mentor until a moment your mentor asks you to send him or her money. If my mentor asks me to do so, I am out immediately.

It is a common method in life and not only exist in cryptocurrency. So I don't feel strange if anyone tries to scam me with this method.

A good mentor will teach you do do things by yourself, not doing things on behalf of you and if it is related directly to your money, it sounds like too good to be true mentor, more like a scammer.

That's an obvious way to promote her friend's accounts but the fact is it's also her account there are lots of them on telegram with the same strategy pretending as a newbie. They try to convince you and gives you suggestion or link and then they are going to force you to deposit.

Many newbies out there still fall into this kind of strategy. So always be aware and ask trusted people if they are legit or not or better discuss it here so that trusted people here will advise you what to do.

oh really that reminds me to conversation few years ago, when i first in crypto some people tell like that.
i almost got trapped but my friend say me that a scam, so i leave him and never affected by it again.
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No rational, honest human being asks for investment or financial assistance in social media. And even if there is one, it's really not worth the risk to guide. You're most likely going to lose your time, because they'll be scammers.

Also, don't reveal on social media that you own bitcoin, because you're an immediate target.

You obviously understand, it really showed that he does not understand how scammers operate. Several approaches have been sent to my Telegram account. First, I check if we shared a group, if not, then I get careful. My name, location, and gender are all I can tell an intruder in my PM, aside from that, I try to keep my identity private. Messages sent privately are suspicious, so don't be fooled by any approach.

Based on the conversations it seems someone who ask you about Bitcoin is the scammer since she is ask you to follow the account which offer to make money via trading, but since you're aware with this scam, she doesn't want to continue the conversations.

She might only act dumb, who knows if she's a scammer and someone who control the self pro claimed Bitcoin trader's account.

oh, yes this can happen,
but , by conversation she really doesn't know anything about it,
she is telling me to guide her, which is a clear sign to not selling me course or guidance

this is just an example i found on instagram,

Why don't you think otherwise? He's actually trying to trick you. He's trying to direct you to someone who offers you 90% of the return on investment.
There is no real woman if she is some random girl who starts a profitable investing conversation. So stay careful, and don't assume you're smarter than "beginners".

i uploaded an awesome bitcoin profile picture on instagram, 3 days ago,
but today a lady contacted me by Dm "hi" - "you know about bitcoin?" - "I am new to bitcoin", "can you guide me to make money from it "
she don't want to learn anything just wanted to make money out of bitcoin, her knowledge about bitcoin is very very less, she only knew the name "bitcoin"
she was talking like "bitcoin=money"
I said i can guide you to learn about bitcoin,
i said bitcoin is like digital money, you can buy it at a specific price and sell it at higher price when price will rise , this is how the money made from it .
i said this because she only wanted to make money, i don't talked about much stuff.
she said "i am following a bitcoin expert" , just a instagram account holder with some trading charts  posted ,
i said ,you have an exchange account
she said 'what is meant by exchange",
i said exchange where you can buy cryptocurrency, exchanges like binance,kucoin, etc.
she said "oh, i am with binance "
she does not know anything about binance and basic terms just made an account following her mentor.
she is so dumb to scam her.

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i sometime think why people do this type of dumb mistakes , now i knew there knowledge about technology ,
they just come to make money and get scammed.
ignore my terrible english