Topic: This little change might be better than the current merit system. (Read 177 times)
I suggested that we had a like button and a thanks button - they serve two different purposes. I also suggested that merits ( or likes ) should be limited to one per post per person.
January 30, 2018, 12:06:29 PM
I do like the idea of a like button which would automatically reward that poster with 1 Merit point, it’s not thatbit takes a long tike to award somebody 1 Smerit, this would just be quicker that’s all.
January 30, 2018, 09:28:37 AM
I like this idea. We could really use the like button and I also like the possibility of limiting the number of merits to 1 per like. This would make sending merit much easier and faster than typing the amount on a separate page.
On the other hand we might also have a downvote feature. It wouldn't have to take away merit from people but rather show how many people don't agree with the poster without the need for them to write a post. Upvote and downvote = less "I agree/+1/you are right" posts
On the other hand we might also have a downvote feature. It wouldn't have to take away merit from people but rather show how many people don't agree with the poster without the need for them to write a post. Upvote and downvote = less "I agree/+1/you are right" posts
January 30, 2018, 06:53:51 AM
They will automatically receive more likes which will compensate. A reasonable post in Facebook can get upto 10k likes with just a button. So can't we get that here as well?
How many views does a typical Technical Discussion post get?Plus, a like button wouldn't make the post any more visible. Suppose we have a post which deserves 15 merits. That means 15 people would have had to view that post (and have sMerits) and "like" it for that to be equivalent to what we currently have.
It's a lot easier to get likes on Facebook as opposed to here.
January 30, 2018, 04:47:19 AM
I wouldn't be against a like button in addition to this but I think then people would just give them out instead of merit and would be given too easily so I don't think they should actual count for something. I think the +1 merit button would be a good idea and maybe each time you click it it gives you an additional 1 merit every time. Would make things a little quicker and swifter rather than having to navigate to the new page just to dish it out.
Yes that's exactly what I was pointing out. +merit is like an additional work at the moment.
Btw, like abuse can be prevented by pegging it with the number of sMerit points an user has. If a user has no sMerits they won't be able to like a post.
January 30, 2018, 04:43:41 AM
Only on the starting post? But then what if someone writes a really, really high-quality reply?
For example, in response to a Technical Discussion thread, a DannyHamilton facsimile Newbie account may decide to write up an elegant reply that fully answers and questions and adds additional content to the discussion.
What then?
And the monthly giveaway would take a lot of time. Wouldn't it be better to view quality posts as they come out rather than all at once? That makes for some really rough intervals of quality control.
For example, in response to a Technical Discussion thread, a DannyHamilton facsimile Newbie account may decide to write up an elegant reply that fully answers and questions and adds additional content to the discussion.
What then?
And the monthly giveaway would take a lot of time. Wouldn't it be better to view quality posts as they come out rather than all at once? That makes for some really rough intervals of quality control.
This subtle change might change the overall mentality of users who don't want to spend time clicking +merit on every posts and instead hoard their sMerits.
There's no point of hoarding and theymos stated that if people do it he'll add a decay.They will automatically receive more likes which will compensate. A reasonable post in Facebook can get upto 10k likes with just a button. So can't we get that here as well?
January 30, 2018, 04:43:19 AM
I wouldn't be against a like button in addition to this but I think then people would just give them out instead of merit and would be given too easily so I don't think they should actual count for something. I think the +1 merit button would be a good idea and maybe each time you click it it gives you an additional 1 merit every time. Would make things a little quicker and swifter rather than having to navigate to the new page just to dish it out.
January 30, 2018, 04:42:56 AM
I just read that they can burn your merits if you simply horde them, is that true?
Yes it's true but that has not been done yet. Moreover, even if that burn system is in place users will still have a mentality of hoarding onto them instead of open mindedness. And with the implementation of like button it would be just as that of Facebook's like button where users will not mind much by clicking on like and moving on.
Currently, clicking on +merit, entering points and sending them in a new window is like an extra effort which many users seem to avoid altogether.
January 30, 2018, 04:39:59 AM
Only on the starting post? But then what if someone writes a really, really high-quality reply?
For example, in response to a Technical Discussion thread, a DannyHamilton facsimile Newbie account may decide to write up an elegant reply that fully answers and questions and adds additional content to the discussion.
What then?
And the monthly giveaway would take a lot of time. Wouldn't it be better to view quality posts as they come out rather than all at once? That makes for some really rough intervals of quality control.
For example, in response to a Technical Discussion thread, a DannyHamilton facsimile Newbie account may decide to write up an elegant reply that fully answers and questions and adds additional content to the discussion.
What then?
And the monthly giveaway would take a lot of time. Wouldn't it be better to view quality posts as they come out rather than all at once? That makes for some really rough intervals of quality control.
This subtle change might change the overall mentality of users who don't want to spend time clicking +merit on every posts and instead hoard their sMerits.
There's no point of hoarding and theymos stated that if people do it he'll add a decay. January 30, 2018, 04:38:43 AM
I just read that they can burn your merits if you simply horde them, is that true?
January 30, 2018, 04:36:32 AM
Its been a while since the merit system is added. I have been liking it so far. But I have a few suggestions to it that might hopefully be better than how the current system is panning out:
This subtle change might change the overall mentality of users who don't want to spend time clicking +merit on every posts and instead hoard their sMerits.
- Introduction of "Like" button instead of "+Merit" beside each normal replies to a post that will automatically add +1 merit to the user when clicked.
- Having +Merit button available only on for the starting post of a thread where anyone is free to add more than 1 merit points.
- Like button can be used by everyone as long as they have enough sMerit points available.
- Monthly sMerit giveaway by merit source to users who can show their past quality posts. That way it will prevent merit abuse as well as fair distribution of sMerits to those who deserve.
This subtle change might change the overall mentality of users who don't want to spend time clicking +merit on every posts and instead hoard their sMerits.
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