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legendary
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April 29, 2023, 10:21:14 PM
#52
In agreement with others in this thread, I don't think this has anything to do with Russia. Price has been in an uptrend since the start of the year and doubled in price. As soon as there was rejection from around $30K price corrected to $27K which is where bears failed to push prices lower. Then unsurprisingly price re-tested $30K level because ultimately price remains in an uptrend so the default direction is upwards.

There had already been 4/5 days of consolidation above $27K in order to confirm it as reasonable support, so the rebound back towards the recent highs is far from surprising in this sense. But as per usual people feel the need to attribute certains event to Bitcoin's price movement, as opposed to the reality that prices weren't moving below $27K quick enough, so investors/traders felt comfortable buying at higher prices.

in 2022 most futures market whales were able to perform many 1week-1month long shorts due to a stagnant hashrate competition and used other stashes to pressure the spot markets to stay in ranges to win their future contract targets

however in 2023 they are only managing 2-5 day contracts where the natural flow of spot markets push those whales stashes to extremes that it breaks

the hashrate competition and energy prices helped push the markets. but we all know the energy markets of the world are not due to russia. but due to greed of domestic energy companies pretending their profiteering price rises are russian caused

in 2022 bottomline value of efficient mining was ~$15k now if the 350exa hashrate persists $25k will be 2023 bottom as of q2
legendary
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April 29, 2023, 05:08:15 PM
#51
In agreement with others in this thread, I don't think this has anything to do with Russia. Price has been in an uptrend since the start of the year and doubled in price. As soon as there was rejection from around $30K price corrected to $27K which is where bears failed to push prices lower. Then unsurprisingly price re-tested $30K level because ultimately price remains in an uptrend so the default direction is upwards.

There had already been 4/5 days of consolidation above $27K in order to confirm it as reasonable support, so the rebound back towards the recent highs is far from surprising in this sense. But as per usual people feel the need to attribute certains event to Bitcoin's price movement, as opposed to the reality that prices weren't moving below $27K quick enough, so investors/traders felt comfortable buying at higher prices.
sr. member
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April 29, 2023, 03:35:29 PM
#50
It is difficult to say that the current pump is due to Russian influence, as we know that the development of bitcoin users is increasing rapidly and in Africa there has been an increase of up to thousands of percent since 2021 so the pump is due to a significant increase in the number of users.
I would also like to agree with you in this point that it is really difficult in my opinion Russia is not the cause for this pump. I think market is running on his own speed . If we see that the next halving is not so far from now , So think before starting the halving pump I think these steps are for the recovering. Even then Bitcoin is now also a lot far from its all time high and after the q1 of 2023 it is recovering over 31k so I think there is no influencing of Russia for the pump.
legendary
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April 29, 2023, 11:44:45 AM
#49
Its never just one thing, if one section was buying then another is selling those orders anyway.  It has to be a general trend to really turn the price, very roughly BTC has been following sentiment also expressed in the stock market or similar general finance trading.   Less worse is the general mood in banking and finance recently after there was some scare of weakness of a bank possible mismanagement.  Not that should have alot to do with crypto but it alters trading overall for fear of a deflationary event, speculators avoid trades etc. and its enough to turn the price.
  Russia is already trading its oil so far as I know, India and China having no national oil source has been too much of a reason to continue to supply Russia with capital; if it really were all or nothing type news in cash flows I'd take more notice of its effect.
I think it is basically the period where we are getting out of the inflation era. We had a terrible 2 years, one with inflation, one with higher interest rates and potentially recession, and we are getting out of those. Not saying we are better, but we are not getting worse and that's the point. When economy is not doing worse, that means it's a good thing, doesn't need to get better, it just needs to be doing alright.

This is why I believe that we should be helping out with a lot more situations financially and paying all the debts and just recovering. This causes bitcoin to go up, not Russia alone, not USA alone, but the whole world slowly and gradually doing better. Which should eventually turn into being much better again in the near future.
legendary
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April 29, 2023, 10:33:03 AM
#48
better math

350exahash network

asic of 190thash is 1,842,105 asics at hardware cost of $3600 each
1842105 x 3600 = $6,631,578,947
lifecycle of 2 years
means their per block time is 105,000 blocks meaning:
6631578947 / 105000 = 63157.90 per block = $10105.26 per btc hardware

1,842,105 asics at 5.2kw at 6cent per kw is:
9578946kw x 6cent= $574736.76 per hour = $95789.46 per block = $15326.31 per btc

hardware+electric= $25431.57 per btc
and thats if the network was constantly at a 350exa, which previous months was lower so value/underlying cost was below $25k but if it stays at this level then thats the average BOTTOM cost per btc moving forward

as for the top cost
well use the calculated hardware + enectric at a rating of 50cents/kwh
9578946kw x 50cent= $4789473 per hour = $798245.5 per block = $127719.28 per btc
hardware+electric= $137824.54 per btc

so from cheapest mining (bottom) to most expensive mining (top) is the window of value to premium which the spot market would speculate inbetween

basically dont expect a $17k btc again unless hashrate crashes. but dont expect spot to ATH to $200k either unless hashrate jumps by another 50%
legendary
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April 29, 2023, 09:50:01 AM
#47
I read this news about Binance returned to Russia,
https://www.coindesk.com/business/2023/04/24/crypto-exchange-binance-is-back-in-russia-lifts-restrictions-on-russian-users-report/
i think just returning a exchange don't cause it, but pretty good news for russians


No this is not a pump.

This is BTC getting back to where it should be from a cost viewpoint.

Ie about 40k based on mining cost.

franky1 has talked about it.

btc has a base cost from creation viewpoint.

about 35-45k


traders speculate and drive it up or down.

we are not in the 35-45k slot which is kind of the proper mining price.

a pump would be over 45k.


think like this 6 cent power

and 20 s19s

means you burn 20 x 3 x 24  = 1500 kwatts a day (rounded to 1500 from 1440) X 6 cents  = 90 usd

you earn 20 x 100 x 0.078 = 156 usd minus 90 =  A 66 DOLLAR PROFIT

So a 66 dollar profit based on 20 x 1500 = 30,000 for machines

66 x 365 = 24,090 profit for those 20 machines is 2000 a month so in 15 months 30k or 1btc.

It is low it should be higher. we are underpriced based on miners costs.

If we were 40k we would make 110 a day profit or 40,150 in 1 year or  btc profit.

So we are simple pushing back to proper balanced levels.

The issue is why are we under 40k.

Not why are we pumping to 30k.

We are under correct levels due to bears wanting to get BTC on the cheap.
sr. member
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April 29, 2023, 09:31:33 AM
#46
If actually the information is authentic then there could be positive impact on the market which would caused another strong buy in the bitcoin market but however, i believe they have been secretly using p2p services as my country does so in other way round there may not be that impact on market.

"Bitcoin pumped because Russia did this"
"Bitcoin dumped because China did this"
"Bitcoin dumped because US did this"

Usually there is no government in control of the market or nation rather but their little efforts and actions also influences the market positively or negatively so the news are real. Despite no authority in charge of bitcoin price movement.
newbie
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April 29, 2023, 09:24:35 AM
#45
It is difficult to say that the current pump is due to Russian influence, as we know that the development of bitcoin users is increasing rapidly and in Africa there has been an increase of up to thousands of percent since 2021 so the pump is due to a significant increase in the number of users.
It is also possible that the pump is being driven by speculative activity, where investors are buying Bitcoin in anticipation of future price increases, rather than actual adoption or usage of the technology, or returning back to Russia. It's best to exercise caution when attempting to attribute market movements to any one specific factor, especially without concrete evidence.
STT
legendary
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April 29, 2023, 09:19:12 AM
#44
Its never just one thing, if one section was buying then another is selling those orders anyway.  It has to be a general trend to really turn the price, very roughly BTC has been following sentiment also expressed in the stock market or similar general finance trading.   Less worse is the general mood in banking and finance recently after there was some scare of weakness of a bank possible mismanagement.  Not that should have alot to do with crypto but it alters trading overall for fear of a deflationary event, speculators avoid trades etc. and its enough to turn the price.
  Russia is already trading its oil so far as I know, India and China having no national oil source has been too much of a reason to continue to supply Russia with capital; if it really were all or nothing type news in cash flows I'd take more notice of its effect.
sr. member
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April 29, 2023, 08:59:50 AM
#43
It is difficult to say that the current pump is due to Russian influence, as we know that the development of bitcoin users is increasing rapidly and in Africa there has been an increase of up to thousands of percent since 2021 so the pump is due to a significant increase in the number of users.
hero member
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April 28, 2023, 07:13:00 PM
#42
Well, no one has the accurate answer why we've got the pump. And when the price corrected, we also don't have any idea why it had happened.

Well, it's not exactly like that. We can speak in terms of probabilities, since correlation does not imply causation but neither does it preclude it. In this case, it is difficult to know and a priori it does not seem that the return of Binance to Russia is determinant for the pump, but there have been other cases, such as when mining was banned in China, where there was a price drop and we can assume that with great probability it was caused by it.
Yes, that example you've given did really had an impact to the market before. Maybe yes, this could be the one of the reasons of the pump that we've got.

But then, it's not that accurate at all or I think it's better to say that it can also be the one since the market is still affected whenever some good or bad news has come.
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April 28, 2023, 04:23:53 AM
#41
it will not have a significant impact on the crypto market globally because the Russian market is not that big compared to the American, Indian or other countries. especially in Russia, there is not only Binance, there are still Kraken, Bybit, and Bittrex, which is too much to say that Binance is the cause of this pump.
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April 28, 2023, 03:51:12 AM
#40
I read this news about Binance returned to Russia,
https://www.coindesk.com/business/2023/04/24/crypto-exchange-binance-is-back-in-russia-lifts-restrictions-on-russian-users-report/
i think just returning a exchange don't cause it, but pretty good news for russians


I'm sorry but I don't believe what you're saying about Russia dumping Bitcoin, you're wrong. One day bitcoin became very volatile for the last 24 hours.

Therefore, with this move by bitcoin, many traders were liquidated. Both long and short positions are the same, and as far as I know, before BTC's price dump happened, Crypto trading giant Jump Trading deposited 26.6M$ worth of Btc in the exchange. When these whales send large Btc, that is a sign of intention to sell. So it's possible that they really dumped, and there are also rumors that the one in Mt. Gox or the bitcoin held by the U.S Government but that's not true because they haven't sold yet.
legendary
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April 28, 2023, 02:59:49 AM
#39
I read this news about Binance returned to Russia,
https://www.coindesk.com/business/2023/04/24/crypto-exchange-binance-is-back-in-russia-lifts-restrictions-on-russian-users-report/
i think just returning a exchange don't cause it, but pretty good news for russians


Please avoid these kind of dumb questions in the future.
"this pump is because of russia?"

-> Any complex thing, such as Bitcoin, something that is interconnected with hundrets of markets, influenced by millions of individuals, by thousands of news, hundrets of governments and instituations, tdoes not follow any simple A -> B causality.
It's always a mesh of factors, extremely rarely can a movement be broken down to a single cause, but surely not in this case.
The last such event was probably the FTX exchange scam, but even then the real causes of the market movements were connected to lots and lots of other factors.

tldr: Just avoid any black and white or A->B thinking in a complex market situation like Bitcoin.
legendary
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April 28, 2023, 02:13:32 AM
#38
For starters there has not been any "pumps" to be because of anything! There was a rise starting from early March which was partly because of the US  banks going bankrupt one by one and partly because that price was considered "undervalued" (way below bitcoin's intrinsic value) so the price had to go back up.

The recent small 5-10% drop was because of the failure to break the new resistance so the short term traders started pulling out to make a profit again before the next leg up which is what we are seeing in the past 4 days (price started rising back up again).

But of course any kind of adoption news has an effect on the price. But you should keep in mind that Binance is an altcoin exchange first and its operation in any country including Russia is not going to have a significant effect on bitcoin price. Not to mention that the market that Binance lost was filled by other exchanges so going back like this is not going to bring back their customers since they've already chosen an alternative.
legendary
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April 28, 2023, 12:49:12 AM
#37
Maybe the tax deadline had something to do with it. I remember back in 2018, we rallied in April. And then tanked for the rest of the year, but April was a good month. Maybe it was due to the tax selling.

However the difference is that 2017 was a bull market and many made tons of capital gains. But 2022 definitely wasn’t a bullish year and most probably lost money. So it’s not exactly the same situation.
legendary
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April 27, 2023, 11:58:20 PM
#36
Well, no one has the accurate answer why we've got the pump. And when the price corrected, we also don't have any idea why it had happened.

Well, it's not exactly like that. We can speak in terms of probabilities, since correlation does not imply causation but neither does it preclude it. In this case, it is difficult to know and a priori it does not seem that the return of Binance to Russia is determinant for the pump, but there have been other cases, such as when mining was banned in China, where there was a price drop and we can assume that with great probability it was caused by it.
sr. member
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April 27, 2023, 11:52:32 PM
#35
I read this news about Binance returned to Russia,
https://www.coindesk.com/business/2023/04/24/crypto-exchange-binance-is-back-in-russia-lifts-restrictions-on-russian-users-report/
i think just returning a exchange don't cause it, but pretty good news for russians

News writers often take advantage of certain moments so that there are many visitors who want to read the news and then make their own claims about something that is happening. Even though it could have happened by chance because there are many events in this world that occur on the same day and each of these things does not have to be connected to one another.

Because as long as there is supply and demand for Bitcoin, pumps and price drops will always exist and occur in the market, because it is part of an economic cycle that does have unexpected movements. So there is no need to associate news with something that is currently happening because it may not necessarily be true because it still has possibilities from other elements.
hero member
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April 27, 2023, 07:49:39 PM
#34
Well, no one has the accurate answer why we've got the pump. And when the price corrected, we also don't have any idea why it had happened.

But we're just all having that thought that the bull run is about to happen and that's why even if some correction do happens, it will just recover completely and fastly.

We need to be cautious at these times because we might not see these prices again once the bull is in.
STT
legendary
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April 27, 2023, 07:41:38 PM
#33
BTC is just quite bullish at present, a pullback from the year to date gains was not to be taken as a negative overall but more of a helpful rest.    If we had failed to hold the 50 day average perhaps and resolved downwards in any regular way that would be more serious.    All thats holding BTC right now is a fairly small line of resistance around 30k representing prior lows from about 1 year ago etc.
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April 27, 2023, 07:31:59 PM
#32
I read this news about Binance returned to Russia,
https://www.coindesk.com/business/2023/04/24/crypto-exchange-binance-is-back-in-russia-lifts-restrictions-on-russian-users-report/
i think just returning a exchange don't cause it, but pretty good news for russians

It could only be good news for the Russians though, on the other hand, there could be hard core crypto investors or some entities that will not like the move by Binance here. I mean the war is still on-going, or Binance should restrict it at least. However, on the other side of the debate, it's just business for Binance and CZ and as we all know that US is being anti-bitcoin or at least crypto, with all the lawsuits and what not against crypto exchange, sooner or later they will have to move somewhere else. Coinbase for instance has started or received their crypto licenses from Bermuda.

But with regards to the pump, I don't see it a big factor though, we've seen the market pump and then take a nosedive because of some weird news, from Arkham Intelligence. And now we are back to $29k'ish and maybe at the end of the month we can still catch that $30k train.
Does CZ would really be making out such decision just because he hated up US government or hating up something? No, he could be able to lift up bans or restrictions on whatsoever as he like.They might be able to make out decisions earlier but now i dont know its the right time to make out some criticisms basing up on what he had one or made out some decisions. Its true that this is business and it would be not just that
right on going into personal on where showing up some support on worldwide would be banning up that much hated or on what Russia had done in correlation with the war. Opening up the platform
for Russian citizens does really give out that benefit but same as yours on which i dont see for this to be a reason for such pump in price. There's no way  that we could be able to point up fingers into
those precise reasons on why we've been pumping.
I would have thought that Russia has increased its acceptance of bitcoin and cryptocurrencies as a means to significantly reduce the impact of sanctions. If Binance reaches such agreements with Russia, it will be an objectively good thing and give good momentum in the long term. Crypto will not be a type to create hatred, hate anyone. But I think it is not certain that Russia has pumped such information. There will be more confirmation from the market correction, I guess bitcoin has enough momentum next to go up 35-40k
sr. member
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April 27, 2023, 07:23:17 PM
#31
I read this news about Binance returned to Russia,
https://www.coindesk.com/business/2023/04/24/crypto-exchange-binance-is-back-in-russia-lifts-restrictions-on-russian-users-report/
i think just returning a exchange don't cause it, but pretty good news for russians

Probably CZ is trying to avoid US now as much as possible, or they really see a big potential in Russian market. Anyway, the price of BTC pumps that much, though there’s a little correction but I guess this news affects the price somehow. If you are going to look at the price trend, it is still a bullish trend, this kind of news is just an addition to make the pump for BTC even stronger.
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April 27, 2023, 06:44:25 PM
#30
I read this news about Binance returned to Russia,
https://www.coindesk.com/business/2023/04/24/crypto-exchange-binance-is-back-in-russia-lifts-restrictions-on-russian-users-report/
i think just returning a exchange don't cause it, but pretty good news for russians

It could only be good news for the Russians though, on the other hand, there could be hard core crypto investors or some entities that will not like the move by Binance here. I mean the war is still on-going, or Binance should restrict it at least. However, on the other side of the debate, it's just business for Binance and CZ and as we all know that US is being anti-bitcoin or at least crypto, with all the lawsuits and what not against crypto exchange, sooner or later they will have to move somewhere else. Coinbase for instance has started or received their crypto licenses from Bermuda.

But with regards to the pump, I don't see it a big factor though, we've seen the market pump and then take a nosedive because of some weird news, from Arkham Intelligence. And now we are back to $29k'ish and maybe at the end of the month we can still catch that $30k train.
Does CZ would really be making out such decision just because he hated up US government or hating up something? No, he could be able to lift up bans or restrictions on whatsoever as he like.They might be able to make out decisions earlier but now i dont know its the right time to make out some criticisms basing up on what he had one or made out some decisions. Its true that this is business and it would be not just that
right on going into personal on where showing up some support on worldwide would be banning up that much hated or on what Russia had done in correlation with the war. Opening up the platform
for Russian citizens does really give out that benefit but same as yours on which i dont see for this to be a reason for such pump in price. There's no way  that we could be able to point up fingers into
those precise reasons on why we've been pumping.
legendary
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April 27, 2023, 06:18:35 PM
#29
I read this news about Binance returned to Russia,
https://www.coindesk.com/business/2023/04/24/crypto-exchange-binance-is-back-in-russia-lifts-restrictions-on-russian-users-report/
i think just returning a exchange don't cause it, but pretty good news for russians

It could only be good news for the Russians though, on the other hand, there could be hard core crypto investors or some entities that will not like the move by Binance here. I mean the war is still on-going, or Binance should restrict it at least. However, on the other side of the debate, it's just business for Binance and CZ and as we all know that US is being anti-bitcoin or at least crypto, with all the lawsuits and what not against crypto exchange, sooner or later they will have to move somewhere else. Coinbase for instance has started or received their crypto licenses from Bermuda.

But with regards to the pump, I don't see it a big factor though, we've seen the market pump and then take a nosedive because of some weird news, from Arkham Intelligence. And now we are back to $29k'ish and maybe at the end of the month we can still catch that $30k train.
legendary
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April 27, 2023, 04:56:11 AM
#28
Accepting Russian cards for deposits and withdrawals doesn't sound very nice to me. Binance expressed support of the Western sanctions and of Ukraine, and now they're just quietly lifting restrictions as if everything is back to normal? Sure, not many people expected the war to be so long, but it's not over yet, and Russians still overwhelmingly support the invasion of Ukraine and the full-scale war against Ukraine. I wonder if it's something Binance managed to do or an indicator of a bigger change, like some Russian banks being quietly removed from the Western sanctions or managing to successfully bypass them, though.

That war is between two governments, not between citizens of two countries, so Binance's restriction on Russian investors won't affect the fight because the Russian government doesn't care about Binance. In contrast, recently, the US government has been putting pressure on Binance, and their restriction of Russian users will only reduce their revenue and not have any impact on the fight. Their lifting of restrictions on Russian investors may be because they are thinking about their business.
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April 27, 2023, 04:52:41 AM
#27
I read this news about Binance returned to Russia,
https://www.coindesk.com/business/2023/04/24/crypto-exchange-binance-is-back-in-russia-lifts-restrictions-on-russian-users-report/
i think just returning a exchange don't cause it, but pretty good news for russians

I don't think bitcoin pump is caused because of an exchange. Do you think that because of Binance not operating in Russia, Russians are out of bitcoin? No, they just don't use binance. They have other options to buy/sell Bitcoin.

So there is no way that for Russia the price of bitcoin goes up, it is time for bitcoin to go up.
Volatility is rising because it is the end of the month and futures expirations are coming. As you said it is time for bitcoin to go up, the bullish trend has already started, but it cannot go on without a correction. The correction is over and a new rise has started. I think there will be similar cases in May, when after correction there will be a new rally.
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April 27, 2023, 04:41:42 AM
#26
The correction is over and now it's bouncing again as the continuation of this bull market. But Binance reopening the market to Russia must have contributed as well to this bounce. And then the EU having the first to have regulatory authority for crypto (MICA) must have helped the people in EU decide to invest in BTC.  $35K and a correction is expected again.

Your prediction of $35k, in which month can that price be achieved as I doubt we can achieve that in April that's almost over, we have just 3 days left. Maybe the price could retest the $30k price by the end of the month or early next month for we to have hopes of $34k been achieved next month. This month wasn't a profiting market as we got hit with corrections.

I hope next month would be profiting for traders and investors, the pump of Bitcoin that occurred wasn't as a result of binance exchange lifting their ban on Russian customers but was as a result of the market trying to bounce back from the correction it has been on since the start of the month.
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April 26, 2023, 07:15:45 PM
#25
I read this news about Binance returned to Russia,
https://www.coindesk.com/business/2023/04/24/crypto-exchange-binance-is-back-in-russia-lifts-restrictions-on-russian-users-report/
i think just returning a exchange don't cause it, but pretty good news for russians

I don't think bitcoin pump is caused because of an exchange. Do you think that because of Binance not operating in Russia, Russians are out of bitcoin? No, they just don't use binance. They have other options to buy/sell Bitcoin.

So there is no way that for Russia the price of bitcoin goes up, it is time for bitcoin to go up.
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April 26, 2023, 07:14:05 PM
#24
People will make a big deal on a lot of things and traders will really capitalize on these same reason. The reason could be anything, but they’re making it look like it’s from this move and they’re actually doing a good job at it since there is an immediate price movement the moment the news went live. The Russians may have been in need of crypto due to the Rubles losing value over time, but most of the rich citizens in Russia have already left anyway so they couldn’t be the reason for this movement.
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April 26, 2023, 06:55:44 PM
#23
This is a perfect example of how news could influence the whole crypto market. I still don't know if this is legit or fake. But still, it doesn't matter if it's real or fake. But as we can see already that the market is somewhat back to its previous position. This proves once again that this kind of trend or influence in the market is very temporary, and you will have to take a good risk management in this kind of market condition.
It is always the best decision that you don't fall for this kind of high volatile market flow. Instead, buy and hold, as this is what people say about bitcoin. It is a long term investment plan. 
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April 26, 2023, 01:03:47 PM
#22
Does Bitcoin price movement have to be hinged on any Country or Government decisions?

"Bitcoin pumped because Russia did this"
"Bitcoin dumped because China did this"
"Bitcoin dumped because US did this"

What if the price had dumped further? I guess the post would be like "Bitcoin dumps because binance lifts restrictions on Russian users"

Some of them are weak reason in my opinion. Price movements are a result of demand and supply, which keep fluctuating over time. Sometime's we have a coincidence of Government decisions and market movements, and then people start claiming that the pump or dump is because of this and that.
I think that is one indication of an increase or movement in the price of bitcoin, we have agreed that indeed speculation affects the price of bitcoin, because it affects the electability and adoption of bitcoin itself, policies on restrictions, prohibitions, and openness to bitcoin by government authorities greatly affect the price of bitcoin that results in better bitcoin adoption or vice versa, I don't really want to say it but the reality is like that.

Yes, I totally agree that price changes in bitcoin are due to demand and supply, but there are many indications that affect demand and supply in the market, good news and bad news about bitcoin affect the behavior of people in trading activities which indirectly demand and supply bitcoin prices in the market is also affected which makes price fluctuations.

Wrong sentence, I don't think that the movement of bitcoin depends on government policies alone, but that (among others) can affect the movement of bitcoin prices.
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April 26, 2023, 12:09:20 PM
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I read this news about Binance returned to Russia,
https://www.coindesk.com/business/2023/04/24/crypto-exchange-binance-is-back-in-russia-lifts-restrictions-on-russian-users-report/
i think just returning a exchange don't cause it, but pretty good news for russians



In the US, one of the largest banks, First Republic, collapsed. Other banks will collapse behind him, so that criticism of bitcoin and cryptocurrencies loses the evidence base, at a time when the banking system burns with bright lights
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April 26, 2023, 11:55:56 AM
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I think with regards to Binance's return to Russia it is relative especially if you relate one event as the sole cause of the market moves impacting the recent pump in the cryptocurrency market, but in my opinion there are always many factors at play in the market but it is not uncommon for events news, such as changes in regulations or the entry of major players into the market, affect the price of cryptocurrencies.
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April 26, 2023, 11:42:34 AM
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No, I don't think so it's because of Russia. Also, why would you call it a pump? Bitcoin went from $31k to $29.6k.
It's just an upward move after a slight correction and it's healthy for Bitcoin price.

I am expecting Bitcoin to reach at least $32k this month. Let's see how it goes.

There is definitely a high possibility for us to see $32k before the month end though it's just few days not up to a week, but this fast correction done by Bitcoin under few hours have increased my expectations.
If $32k don't happen on or before the month ends we will see it on the first coming days of May.
Bitcoin price is now 29$k few days ago went to dumping and went down to 27$k I hope it will go to 35$k very soon. But everyone is thinking it will be very soon. Those who invested are now waiting when the price will hige.  But I think those who didn't keep investing in Bitcoin then made a big mistake. No one has ever lost money by investing in Bitcoin. I often see many people who invest in other coins instead of investing in Bitcoin, lose money and then go into depression.  So I think we have to choose Bitcoin instead of investing anywhere else.
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April 26, 2023, 11:06:51 AM
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I read this news about Binance returned to Russia,
https://www.coindesk.com/business/2023/04/24/crypto-exchange-binance-is-back-in-russia-lifts-restrictions-on-russian-users-report/
i think just returning a exchange don't cause it, but pretty good news for russians

This reason may help the price of Bitcoin to rise slightly, but it will not have much effect.  But June is not too late and now gradually people will try to evade tax.  So it is only natural that the price of Bitcoin may increase slightly in the new financial year. And on the other hand, the price of Bitcoin has been in the deep for a long time, so it is time for the price of Bitcoin to rise in the normal cycle.  And because of this, the price of Bitcoin is slowly increasing
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April 26, 2023, 11:05:43 AM
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Does Bitcoin price movement have to be hinged on any Country or Government decisions?

"Bitcoin pumped because Russia did this"
"Bitcoin dumped because China did this"
"Bitcoin dumped because US did this"
For me and some other person's here, I use to care about the reason behind every rise in value of bitcoin, but as time went on, I realise it is not so important and so stopped caring for what causes the pump, I just want bitcoin to keep pumping for whatever reason. Bitcoin pump is something to expect as someone who has invested in bitcoins. Paying too much attention to the media about what will make bitcoin pump and what can possibly make bitcoin drop as well, can get you to a level where the media greatly has an influence on you and your decision to keep hodling bitcoin. Focus on more important things.
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April 26, 2023, 11:02:17 AM
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I don't think it's because of Russia. I think it's as franky1 said, it's more likely due to the end of the tax month in the US, so traders are moving again. The restriction on Russians may have had some impact, but even without Binance, russians could still trade freely on other platforms (most likely locally) as far as I know.

However, I could be wrong, another possible reason for these price pumps could be whales controlling the market, and it's probably them who pumped Bitcoin's price.

We will probably see a bit more increase of BTC price in the new few days till 32-33k$.
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April 26, 2023, 10:59:25 AM
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Not really. Mostly because of the collapse of an American bank. It's not dead but took a lot of damage today. I guess people are disappointed in banks even more and come to Bitcoin.
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April 26, 2023, 10:54:57 AM
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Does Bitcoin price movement have to be hinged on any Country or Government decisions?

Most people link Bitcoin's mass adoption and growth to countries and nations policies over the currency. If one country is to openly accept Bitcoin today and its price goes up, they assume it's all because of the public acceptance of Bitcoin done by that country.

Forgetting the fact that Bitcoin is out there surviving on its own, price goes up and down (inflation), and if the price happens to run more than it should, there are every chance that we will experience a negative drastic change in price drop, which is what we experienced in the past few days, before the price will gradually start coming back up to normal, which will make it balance well and be stronger. Fuds, taxes, adoption, etc. all contribute to both negative and positive Bitcoin price changes. But lots of people don't count those ones.
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April 26, 2023, 10:49:39 AM
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It is surely not because of Russia as you put it, is it because of the rumors of Binance lifting their restrictions on Russian customers, i do not think so at all, i believe Russsian customers have been using Binance even with the restriction, probably even with the help of Binance, it's very possible because there have been charges against Binance some weeks ago of them helping customers of the US escape regulations in order to use their platform.

BTC pumps or falls for more than one reason, some of the reasons may not be known and could have been going on for sometime, but when the pump or fall happens, people take whatever is the popular event at that time as the cause of it. Don't worry about Binance, Russia or the price, use BTC how you wish to, and accumulate with the dca method.
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April 26, 2023, 10:43:10 AM
#12
No, I don't think so it's because of Russia. Also, why would you call it a pump? Bitcoin went from $31k to $29.6k.
It's just an upward move after a slight correction and it's healthy for Bitcoin price.

I am expecting Bitcoin to reach at least $32k this month. Let's see how it goes.

There is definitely a high possibility for us to see $32k before the month end though it's just few days not up to a week, but this fast correction done by Bitcoin under few hours have increased my expectations.
If $32k don't happen on or before the month ends we will see it on the first coming days of May.
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April 26, 2023, 10:34:21 AM
#11
The correction is over and now it's bouncing again as the continuation of this bull market. But Binance reopening the market to Russia must have contributed as well to this bounce. And then the EU having the first to have regulatory authority for crypto (MICA) must have helped the people in EU decide to invest in BTC.  $35K and a correction is expected again.
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April 26, 2023, 10:28:08 AM
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i think just returning a exchange don't cause it, but pretty good news for russians
It's not the main factor behind this slight pump, as BTC was already in a correction state from the last week. According to my view, There was no bad factor causing BTC to dump down to $27,900 (almost) instead it was only a correction. As many analysts had predicted the price of BTC to reach around $40k in May. And we have also seen a big amount of BTC has been accumulated in the past 15 days.

And the news you shared is of the same day when BTC hit its ATL of the week ($27,199) on April 25, around 14:35 and the news was out around 25 minutes earlier, So it wasn't the main factor but it must have impacted the market from to maintain it's support level. Plus this news also represents a good factor causing BTC to maintain its pump. If such good news keeps coming then BTC will definitely go to reach $40k in May but it's only my speculation so please DYOR too.
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April 26, 2023, 10:20:01 AM
#9
Does Bitcoin price movement have to be hinged on any Country or Government decisions?

"Bitcoin pumped because Russia did this"
"Bitcoin dumped because China did this"
"Bitcoin dumped because US did this"

What if the price had dumped further? I guess the post would be like "Bitcoin dumps because binance lifts restrictions on Russian users"

Some of them are weak reason in my opinion. Price movements are a result of demand and supply, which keep fluctuating over time. Sometime's we have a coincidence of Government decisions and market movements, and then people start claiming that the pump or dump is because of this and that.
I have said about this severally. At every point in time, bitcoin success or woes must be attributed to one situation or the order. Most especially situations concerning countries economy and economical decisions.
I am not blind to the fact that fundamentals drive the market but in must cases the guesses are wrong. The whole crypto market is at $1.2T and bitcoin is much bigger than those days that slight news moves its price.
But the norms have been customised, at every point in time, bitcoin success or woes must be attributed to something.
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April 26, 2023, 10:02:57 AM
#8
No, I don't think so it's because of Russia. Also, why would you call it a pump? Bitcoin went from $31k to $29.6k.
It's just an upward move after a slight correction and it's healthy for Bitcoin price.

I am expecting Bitcoin to reach at least $32k this month. Let's see how it goes.
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April 26, 2023, 09:59:18 AM
#7
Does Bitcoin price movement have to be hinged on any Country or Government decisions?

"Bitcoin pumped because Russia did this"
"Bitcoin dumped because China did this"
"Bitcoin dumped because US did this"

What if the price had dumped further? I guess the post would be like "Bitcoin dumps because binance lifts restrictions on Russian users"

Some of them are weak reason in my opinion. Price movements are a result of demand and supply, which keep fluctuating over time. Sometime's we have a coincidence of Government decisions and market movements, and then people start claiming that the pump or dump is because of this and that.
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April 26, 2023, 09:50:20 AM
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Accepting Russian cards for deposits and withdrawals doesn't sound very nice to me. Binance expressed support of the Western sanctions and of Ukraine, and now they're just quietly lifting restrictions as if everything is back to normal? Sure, not many people expected the war to be so long, but it's not over yet, and Russians still overwhelmingly support the invasion of Ukraine and the full-scale war against Ukraine. I wonder if it's something Binance managed to do or an indicator of a bigger change, like some Russian banks being quietly removed from the Western sanctions or managing to successfully bypass them, though.
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April 26, 2023, 09:45:51 AM
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I read this news about Binance returned to Russia,
https://www.coindesk.com/business/2023/04/24/crypto-exchange-binance-is-back-in-russia-lifts-restrictions-on-russian-users-report/
i think just returning a exchange don't cause it, but pretty good news for russians


Highly doubt it. Binance just cut out the use of Visa and Mastercard for Russian citizens but they can still use the exchange using different payment methods. I think those sanctioned wallets from Russian oligarchs are still not usable and I'm sure that normal citizen already finds a way to deposit on Binance without the use of Visa and Mastercard so this restriction is not really a problem. They just got another option to deposit and withdraw but not enough to create this kind of hype.

Bitcoin is already down for fast few days. I think people is just buying the dip and not this kind of news because real hype news will put the Bitcoin price above 30K levels and stays there.
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April 26, 2023, 09:38:57 AM
#4
I read this news about Binance returned to Russia,
https://www.coindesk.com/business/2023/04/24/crypto-exchange-binance-is-back-in-russia-lifts-restrictions-on-russian-users-report/
i think just returning a exchange don't cause it, but pretty good news for russians
Binance and not only them but also other exchanges can move from one nation to another and other nations. Citizens in one country can use many exchanges, from local to global brands.

Years ago, China policies forced some cryptocurrency exchanges moved their head quarters from China mainland to other countries. The USA., Russia and other countries can contribute the same stories at different times. I think if you are in this market a few years, you will see they are not real reasons for Bitcoin pumps and more important Bitcoin growth.

The growth is come from its technology, design and its sharply increasing adoption growth. China, the USA., Russia and other countries are contributors to make a snowball effect for Bitcoin.
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April 26, 2023, 09:23:07 AM
#3
tax month is nearly over so its time trades start moving again
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April 26, 2023, 09:21:54 AM
#2
I don't think Binance has lifted any restrictions from Russia traders because there was never a direct sanction from Binance to Russia traders, and the Russian card payment cutout was in line with International Interbank Settlement (SWIFT). If the citizens have regained access by using their cards to purchase crypto, then I guess the EU has lifted the card restrictions. There are still some forms of restrictions, though on P2P, there are some pairs that are limited to Russian access.
That being said, I don't see how this can contribute to the price pump of over 9% in BTC in the past 24 hours.
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April 26, 2023, 09:06:33 AM
#1
I read this news about Binance returned to Russia,
https://www.coindesk.com/business/2023/04/24/crypto-exchange-binance-is-back-in-russia-lifts-restrictions-on-russian-users-report/
i think just returning a exchange don't cause it, but pretty good news for russians
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