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Topic: Thriller Triad combat - Does the tringle shaped ring affect the betting outcome? (Read 114 times)

legendary
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So Thriller hosted a "Boxing vs MMA" event which "merged" rules. However, anyone with half a brain can see how it's clearly rigged in favor of boxing. Most of MMA boxing isn't even allowed like spinning backfists. From a gambling perspective, I bet on team Boxing since... well it's just boxing in a tringle. But even through all this BS the MMA team still won 14-11. What should I take into consideration when betting on future events? Does the triangle shape matter that much?

As most other people have pointed out, this triangle shape severely limits movement compared to a square ring - so a boxer who moves around a lot will be at a severe disadvantage. MMA fighters who move in quick and are happy to engage in grappling will be able to lock on to their opponent more quickly. It seems slightly boring and not as entertaining as other more square or circular shape rings really, I cannot see it taking off in the long term with boxers most likely avoiding it. Definitely worth a test but just the top down view has an unappealing vibe to it, this one is definitely going to be resigned to "special" matches or maybe just used by specific close combat sports that are not boxing.
legendary
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I've never seen any of these fights I'll have to take a look.

It seems to me that boxers should have a distinct advantage over MMA fighters because they are used to working only with their hands. I think it's hard for MMA fighters to adjust their tactics to hand-to-hand combat, which is implied by the rules of these fights. But on the other hand these fighters are very agile and have in their stock punches, which boxers usually do not use.
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also I am not surprised that the MMA team won, after all it does not matter how restrictive are the rules they will have more techniques to use than the boxer and in a fight this is always an advantage.

MMA fighters don't have more techniques to use at all. These rules, although advertised as the "perfect middle ground" don't allow anything more than a little longer clinching. That means that takedowns, knees, elbows, submissions, kicks, headlocks, and pretty much everything else in the MMA ruleset is gone. For example, Mir vs Pulev. In an actual fight, I'd take Mir 10/10 times but he was never a striker or even a boxer. Has an amazing ground game and submitted legends. But in this ruleset, he was forced to stand up with a CHAMPIONSHIP LEVEL boxer. He was put there for slaughter. Complete BS.
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I do think that the shape does not matter until and unless the overall area stays the same, if the shape is a triangle I think there would be less chances of people fighting with a safety distance which does mean that they might have to engage more in close combat which might be good for some players and bad for some as well. I think the shape matters for sure, it can be in a favour of some players, it can also make the match more exciting tho since players would be forced to fight 1 on 1 which might make the whole thing finish up really fast. I have not yet watched any match in such ring shape, hopefully it would be fair for all the players.
legendary
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So Thriller hosted a "Boxing vs MMA" event which "merged" rules. However, anyone with half a brain can see how it's clearly rigged in favor of boxing. Most of MMA boxing isn't even allowed like spinning backfists. From a gambling perspective, I bet on team Boxing since... well it's just boxing in a tringle. But even through all this BS the MMA team still won 14-11. What should I take into consideration when betting on future events? Does the triangle shape matter that much?

Without a doubt the shape of the ring affects the fight, a triangle is too restrictive, I will be honest I have never seen a ring like that and I do not think it is a good idea, after all there are some fighting styles that require you to react to what your opponent is doing and as such a ring like that discourages defensive strategies and benefits aggressive fighters, also I am not surprised that the MMA team won, after all it does not matter how restrictive are the rules they will have more techniques to use than the boxer and in a fight this is always an advantage.
legendary
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there is nowhere else to go in this kind of ring compare to an octagon where they have more rooms but this is going to be more exciting for the audience who wants action pack fights because this will force anyone inside to face thier opponent. if you are an MMA fighter or a boxer and will agree to be in this triangle, you definitely have the courage. salute to you. hope the promotion will pay more.

i just watch a youtube video where Frank Mir didn't move at all. he must have figured, it's the end while in the corner.

 
legendary
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The shape and size of the triangle will initially favor MMA fighters. There isn't much real estate in the triangle for boxers to use distance and time their opponents. They can only take a few steps to one side or the other before hitting the ropes.

Allowing a clinch and greatly favors MMA over boxing. Especially in a small triangle where there isn't much space to avoid the clinch. MMA fighters usually know how to hand fight, wrestle and clinch without tiring out their arms. They also know how to reverse from having their back on their cage, which is especially useful in cases where they're trapped in the corner of triller's triangle ring. Boxers by contrast are far less schooled and don't know how to get the results they're looking for. Not being trained to wrestle or clinch, generally also means they will burn their arms out and tire faster if they try to wrestle.

As time passes, boxers might improve at clinching and wrestling to where they're more evenly matched. As things stand, even MMA fighters like Matt Mitrione who are not known for being good at wrestling or having a good clinch game carry a significant advantage against boxers in that area.

The size of the paychecks are another important factor. If triller is paying out big purses, the sport will become more competitive and athletes can afford to put more into their training. This is something that heavily impacted MMA in the past. When MMA fighters were paid less, many boxers (who were making more) were superior athletes in contrast to MMA. As the UFC's payscale has increased, the level of competition and training has increased as well.
legendary
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Both fighters will be limited in their movements but fighting involves power and skill and who is good at adjusting his style to the situation and opponents skills and movements will be the winner, we have a saying style makes a fight whoever can use the ring to his advantage and who has the skill and power will win the fight, so I don't think it will have an impact at all.
legendary
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is there any other restriction besides spinning back fist? I mean, MMA fighters could easily win if the tackle/takedowns are allowed. as for the triangle-shaped stage, it is far more restricting compare to an octagon or boxing ring. it could affect their strategy, especially for boxing since there are a lot of boxers taking advantage of the space they have on the boxing ring as part of their strategy and with this far smaller as restricting fighting stage, that strategy can be affected.

What should I take into consideration when betting on future events?
you should take a look at their fighting styles. as for me, I think the ones that have the most advantage here is fighters who are an expert with close-quarter fights.
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So Thriller hosted a "Boxing vs MMA" event which "merged" rules. However, anyone with half a brain can see how it's clearly rigged in favor of boxing. Most of MMA boxing isn't even allowed like spinning backfists. From a gambling perspective, I bet on team Boxing since... well it's just boxing in a tringle. But even through all this BS the MMA team still won 14-11. What should I take into consideration when betting on future events? Does the triangle shape matter that much?

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