Timer for searching 90 seconds?? Also 360 post rule? Update Requests

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Quote from: CryptoCreateure on February 13, 2022, 03:06:25 AM

I am still wondering if this has been brought to the mods or any of the developers attention and or is on a list of updates to be made? Or has now need changed to be less time to wait between a Search? Which I can only assume is to slow down users on the website when there is a lot of traffic? If that’s the case, I’m sure there would be a work around to fix this and remove or reduce it to a more appropriate timer of 1-10 seconds but really it shouldn’t be there again unless it serves another purpose.??

Admins are well aware of the limit imposed since it's not a bug, but rather an intended feature, there's a work around as you put it, in the form of whitelisting users, though this isn't done often. I'm not hundred percent sure if whitelisting reduces search time though, although it practically reduces most other wait times, so I imagine it does.

You could request to be whitelisted, though like I said unlikely for most users.

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Quote from: CryptoCreateure on February 13, 2022, 03:06:25 AM

With the 90 second search block timer I am still wondering if this has been brought to the mods or any of the developers attention and or is on a list of updates to be made? Or has now need changed to be less time to wait between a Search? Which I can only assume is to slow down users on the website when there is a lot of traffic? If that’s the case, I’m sure there would be a work around to fix this and remove or reduce it to a more appropriate timer of 1-10 seconds but really it shouldn’t be there again unless it serves another purpose.??

The 90-second search block timer is there for a reason. The admin did not just set it up by mistake, did he?

If you are waiting for any modification of sorts in that field in this current forum software, then I suggest you are better off waiting for Jesus to come back. I have already recommended to you the solution of using third party websites, but you seem to be so reluctant about it.

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Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on November 07, 2021, 08:30:35 AM

OP, I doubt your suggestions are going to get the attention of Theymos, but I happen to agree with you about the search delay at least. I have no idea why it takes that long to be able to search for something else or correct a mistake made in the search field. That's been an annoyance to me quite a few times, and I don't have a clue why it is the way it is.

I think it's for safety reasons. Enable search without a time limit can easily cause server overload by which I do not mean ordinary users. without a time limit, the possibility of a DDoS attack would open up. Just imagine, every second an xxx number of searches and again, again...
logically there is a greater restriction for newbies, it is difficult to expect someone to flood the server with a larger number of hero accounts.

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Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on November 07, 2021, 08:30:35 AM

OP, I doubt your suggestions are going to get the attention of Theymos, but I happen to agree with you about the search delay at least. I have no idea why it takes that long to be able to search for something else or correct a mistake made in the search field. That's been an annoyance to me quite a few times, and I don't have a clue why it is the way it is.

Regarding the 360 second restriction on posting: That's only for brand new members if I'm not mistaken, and it goes away very quickly once you hit Newbie status. It might be a bit too long, since there are a lot of people who register on bitcointalk to post a scam accusation or get some quick info, and I can see how it's a huge pain in the ass. The problem is that if there wasn't any type of restriction like that, there would be bots spamming the forum like you wouldn't believe. Even with that 360 second thing, we still get problems from time to time with bot spam.

And yeah, a lot of things could be improved upon here. The new forum software should fix all of that, and I hear it's going to be released any day now.

Hi and thanks for your answer. I do want to apologise to anyone for my lack of punctuation in this post or any “dumb” questions that upset or seemed to Atleast upset some users. Yes I am new here. I need to learn what’s more accepted here than on wider topic forums like social media. Anyway let’s continue.

This 360 character as I was NOT aware was for newbs only makes it not valid in my OP. But thank you for letting me know. With the 90 second search block timer I am still wondering if this has been brought to the mods or any of the developers attention and or is on a list of updates to be made? Or has now need changed to be less time to wait between a Search? Which I can only assume is to slow down users on the website when there is a lot of traffic? If that’s the case, I’m sure there would be a work around to fix this and remove or reduce it to a more appropriate timer of 1-10 seconds but really it shouldn’t be there again unless it serves another purpose.??

Quote from: suchmoon on November 07, 2021, 08:43:32 AM

I'd make it 3600 seconds for newbies. No one needs more of such illiterate garbage like the OP. If you can't spend a few extra seconds to spell-check and proof-read your shit, Twitter would be a great fit for you.

Ok sorry I didn’t write perfectly. I haven’t used an old style forum for along time and since everything else I use has spell check activated. Here I can’t find it at all. So whatever sorry to upset your day,

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Quote from: CryptoCreateure on November 07, 2021, 08:19:07 AM

Simply wondering why there is a 90 second search block? I types the work. Thing mistake and I have to wait 90 seconds for to try again.. we know time is of the essence it’s life.

The sale for posts why 360 seconds that’s to long. Make that 60 seconds. And remove the 90 second search bar block to something like 0 or 10 seconds??

Seriously and suggestion please share if you feel for or against this thank you.

I get this prevents spam. But for commenting and for searching I don’t think this prevents spam. Maybe comments but they can have a 10-30 second cap like whatever but not 360 seconds or 5 minutes . The search only once in 90 seconds is just I don’t know why that’s there? It’s stopping people getting to things they want to read or find ir search for. You don’t see search engines having a 90 second to search function. This of all NEEDs to go. Thank you.

Use a third party too like https://ninjastic.space/search
You will never have to be blocked again.

Perhaps one of the reasons there is a cool off period of 90 seconds is to avoid DDoS attacks or the forum loading speed slowing down due to too much resource used up by the search button.

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Quote from: CryptoCreateure on November 07, 2021, 08:19:07 AM

The sale for posts why 360 seconds that’s to long. Make that 60 seconds.

Except one is copying and pasting or posting "reserved" after ooeninya topic, you are very unlikely to trigger this limitation warning. The main purpose is think is to get users to read more than they write, more so if they are new to the forum;

• From making a post, to browsing around the forum to find another topic that interests you, reading it and possibly reading additional replies, then typing out your own reply, 360 seconds would ideally have passed.

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Quote from: suchmoon on November 07, 2021, 08:43:32 AM

I'd make it 3600 seconds for newbies.

Luckily you didn't do that when I was a newbie last year. LOL

I am very enjoy to report spammers which I still do consistently every time. The time limit was an obstacle before when I had to wait longer to report my other findings to the moderators. But I'm lucky LoyceV whitelisted me so I can report spammers faster than ever. This limitation can be annoying at times, but may be good for most beginners who are only active as cheaters and spammers.

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Quote from: CryptoCreateure on November 07, 2021, 08:19:07 AM

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I never found that an issue whilst being a lower rank, and most people won’t really meet those limits that easily. For those that do, this is the subjacent algorithm used, which I believe affects both posting and search cool down time in the same manner:

Quote from: theymos on December 24, 2013, 10:50:28 PM

Quote from: CaptainBeck on December 24, 2013, 03:25:08 PM

What are the time limits on posting and the levels??
I know 360 seconds are for new people like me, but was wondering if there was break down somewhere on this.

Code:

waittime = 360;
if(activity >= 15)
        waittime = (int)(90 - activity);
if(activity >= 60)
        waittime=(int)(34.7586 - (0.0793103 * activity));
if(activity >= 100)
        waittime = max((int)(14-(activity/50)), 4);

It is Activity based (not Rank based), and once you’re past 15 points on this counter, things go rather much smoother. Even so, if need be (i.e. due to business reasons), one can further accelerate the process by acquiring a Copper Membership, which reduces the wait time by 75% (see
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.24371150).

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I'd make it 3600 seconds for newbies. No one needs more of such illiterate garbage like the OP. If you can't spend a few extra seconds to spell-check and proof-read your shit, Twitter would be a great fit for you.

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OP, I doubt your suggestions are going to get the attention of Theymos, but I happen to agree with you about the search delay at least. I have no idea why it takes that long to be able to search for something else or correct a mistake made in the search field. That's been an annoyance to me quite a few times, and I don't have a clue why it is the way it is.

Regarding the 360 second restriction on posting: That's only for brand new members if I'm not mistaken, and it goes away very quickly once you hit Newbie status. It might be a bit too long, since there are a lot of people who register on bitcointalk to post a scam accusation or get some quick info, and I can see how it's a huge pain in the ass. The problem is that if there wasn't any type of restriction like that, there would be bots spamming the forum like you wouldn't believe. Even with that 360 second thing, we still get problems from time to time with bot spam.

And yeah, a lot of things could be improved upon here. The new forum software should fix all of that, and I hear it's going to be released any day now.

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Simply wondering why there is a 90 second search block? I types the work. Thing mistake and I have to wait 90 seconds for to try again.. we know time is of the essence it’s life.

The sale for posts why 360 seconds that’s to long. Make that 60 seconds. And remove the 90 second search bar block to something like 0 or 10 seconds??

Seriously and suggestion please share if you feel for or against this thank you.

I get this prevents spam. But for commenting and for searching I don’t think this prevents spam. Maybe comments but they can have a 10-30 second cap like whatever but not 360 seconds or 5 minutes . The search only once in 90 seconds is just I don’t know why that’s there? It’s stopping people getting to things they want to read or find ir search for. You don’t see search engines having a 90 second to search function. This of all NEEDs to go. Thank you.

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