Hello guys, project update, after several months of work I can finally give real data.
I begin the project with three months of real tests, day after day I have tried to improve the setting and tipsters selection.
Some data: in the last 45 days, 1092 betting, 5.49% gain.
Now I'm here because I need to reduce costs and Splite the subscription fee.
I can send the real results and also send a some tip for a trial period.
Please contact me on pro.tip.331 @ gmail. com
cheers
Topic: Tipster project (Read 938 times)
I worked some day to tipster selection and record analysis.
I put together the last year record (start on 15/01/01) of all selected tipster and I calculate the profit and the drawdown.
That is result :
PIKCS : 6463
PROFIT : 3082,69 UNITS
DRAWDOWN MAX : -149,9 UNITS
To simulate the delay or odds variation, I reduce the odds in this way :
- Odd<2 --> -0,10
- 2 -0,15
- 3 -0,20
- 4 -0,30
- Odd>5 --> -0,50
That is because more high is odd and more changes are possible
That is result :
PROFIT : 1200,55 UNITS
DRAWDOWN MAX : -211,63 UNITS
Using an algorithm * for the equity control that filter the activity and reduce the drawdown
*personal algorithm that connect the activity and moving average
That is result :
For the original odds:
PROFIT : 3500,75 UNITS
DRAWDOWN MAX : -50,67 UNITS
For the reduced odds:
PROFIT : 1928,23 UNITS
DRAWDOWN MAX : -54,64 UNITS
Chart here : http://i66.tinypic.com/k9v2pz.png
The record, chart and analisys are avaible on this link : http://dropcanvas.com/f7o1e (spreadsheet)
I put together the last year record (start on 15/01/01) of all selected tipster and I calculate the profit and the drawdown.
That is result :
PIKCS : 6463
PROFIT : 3082,69 UNITS
DRAWDOWN MAX : -149,9 UNITS
To simulate the delay or odds variation, I reduce the odds in this way :
- Odd<2 --> -0,10
- 2
- 3
- 4
- Odd>5 --> -0,50
That is because more high is odd and more changes are possible
That is result :
PROFIT : 1200,55 UNITS
DRAWDOWN MAX : -211,63 UNITS
Using an algorithm * for the equity control that filter the activity and reduce the drawdown
*personal algorithm that connect the activity and moving average
That is result :
For the original odds:
PROFIT : 3500,75 UNITS
DRAWDOWN MAX : -50,67 UNITS
For the reduced odds:
PROFIT : 1928,23 UNITS
DRAWDOWN MAX : -54,64 UNITS
Chart here : http://i66.tinypic.com/k9v2pz.png
The record, chart and analisys are avaible on this link : http://dropcanvas.com/f7o1e (spreadsheet)
Everything is trasparent. You can download the record of the selected tipsters!
And really you trust of site that you link more than verifed tipster of blogabet? mmh I'm not understand
And really you trust of site that you link more than verifed tipster of blogabet? mmh I'm not understand
Why do you say this mkr?? 
Maybe you should read well the entire thread, you will not give the money to me, so it will not be possible to scam you! And m0glie is a hero member and he makes the escrow...If you are interested you are welcome!
Maybe you should read well the entire thread, you will not give the money to me, so it will not be possible to scam you! And m0glie is a hero member and he makes the escrow...If you are interested you are welcome!
Well for me it all depends on the final price. I don't make that much profit with my tips, but at least I'm positive right now, so I'm ok with this service if it does not require a big investment from me. Around 30 euros would be to much for me right now, because I already had problems with a service like this before and I want to keep the risk as minimum as possible.
So let me know when you have all the numbers figured out.
So let me know when you have all the numbers figured out.
don't worry, before we start I will make some montecarlo simulations that will help to figure out some important information on bankroll management.
you can count me in then , also ask him how much units should our bankrolls have in order to avoid the losing streaks
cause when it comes to bankroll management in sports I know nothing lol
the chart looks great , so I think it's a great investment
cause when it comes to bankroll management in sports I know nothing lol
the chart looks great , so I think it's a great investment
Awesome! +1 ! waiting for others!
I think that a good number to start is around 15/20 people!
I think that a good number to start is around 15/20 people!
Yes, it seems a good idea and a good compromise.
I have only one doubt: how do the first 1/2 months? I can not anticipate everything.
Maybe you can collect the money and pay the tipsters, and I give to all the tips for the following month.
Doing it this way I can not scam you because I will never have the money! Easy and transparent.
I have only one doubt: how do the first 1/2 months? I can not anticipate everything.
Maybe you can collect the money and pay the tipsters, and I give to all the tips for the following month.
Doing it this way I can not scam you because I will never have the money! Easy and transparent.
Yeah not a bad idea. I'm in your group
Yes, it seems a good idea and a good compromise.
I have only one doubt: how do the first 1/2 months? I can not anticipate everything.
Maybe you can collect the money and pay the tipsters, and I give to all the tips for the following month.
Doing it this way I can not scam you because I will never have the money! Easy and transparent.
I have only one doubt: how do the first 1/2 months? I can not anticipate everything.
Maybe you can collect the money and pay the tipsters, and I give to all the tips for the following month.
Doing it this way I can not scam you because I will never have the money! Easy and transparent.
Guys, believe me, I think all of you are right, I also would have the same doubts!
However, the point is that I'm looking for partners because I can not afford to buy all the tipsters alone, but at the same time, the key of the project is to have so many tipster to diversify risk.
This is the record of the tips from 03/01/2015
http://dropcanvas.com/oq1ps (pdf)
This is the profit chart: blue with the original odds, in orange with odds reduced of 0.15 (this is a simulation of the possible delays or odds changes).
Trust me, I'm an Italian guy ... hmmm, no this is not actually a good point!
However, the start-up period is the most critical, you have doubts but I can not start without you!
If it is ok for you that you have written, we are already in 8, that means plus or minus € 30 euro per head. Maybe, for the first 1 or 2 month, we can do a lean startup selecting 3 tipster and not 4.
However, the point is that I'm looking for partners because I can not afford to buy all the tipsters alone, but at the same time, the key of the project is to have so many tipster to diversify risk.
This is the record of the tips from 03/01/2015
http://dropcanvas.com/oq1ps (pdf)
This is the profit chart: blue with the original odds, in orange with odds reduced of 0.15 (this is a simulation of the possible delays or odds changes).
Trust me, I'm an Italian guy ... hmmm, no this is not actually a good point!
However, the start-up period is the most critical, you have doubts but I can not start without you!
If it is ok for you that you have written, we are already in 8, that means plus or minus € 30 euro per head. Maybe, for the first 1 or 2 month, we can do a lean startup selecting 3 tipster and not 4.
I would have a proposal for you.
I'm all in for this idea, I like the concept of sharing the tips.
What would you say that a third party with an old account (like me
) makes the escrow? He keeps the monthly pay, you pay the tipsters, the month passes, you give the tips and at the end of the month if you gave the tips the escrow sends you the money.I propose myself simply because I'm part of the Betcoin sig campaign. If I've got negative feedback because I scammed you I'm out so I lose the account and the campaign... Which brings me around 100€ a month, so not really worth it to scam for 250€
Anyway, I'd say escrow can be a good compromise, would you accept such solution?
Guys, believe me, I think all of you are right, I also would have the same doubts!
However, the point is that I'm looking for partners because I can not afford to buy all the tipsters alone, but at the same time, the key of the project is to have so many tipster to diversify risk.
This is the record of the tips from 03/01/2015
http://dropcanvas.com/oq1ps (pdf)
This is the profit chart: blue with the original odds, in orange with odds reduced of 0.15 (this is a simulation of the possible delays or odds changes).
http://i67.tinypic.com/2eq9kc7.png
Trust me, I'm an Italian guy ... hmmm, no this is not actually a good point!
However, the start-up period is the most critical, you have doubts but I can not start without you!
If it is ok for you that you have written, we are already in 8, that means plus or minus € 30 euro per head. Maybe, for the first 1 or 2 month, we can do a lean startup selecting 3 tipster and not 4.
However, the point is that I'm looking for partners because I can not afford to buy all the tipsters alone, but at the same time, the key of the project is to have so many tipster to diversify risk.
This is the record of the tips from 03/01/2015
http://dropcanvas.com/oq1ps (pdf)
This is the profit chart: blue with the original odds, in orange with odds reduced of 0.15 (this is a simulation of the possible delays or odds changes).
http://i67.tinypic.com/2eq9kc7.png
Trust me, I'm an Italian guy ... hmmm, no this is not actually a good point!
However, the start-up period is the most critical, you have doubts but I can not start without you!
If it is ok for you that you have written, we are already in 8, that means plus or minus € 30 euro per head. Maybe, for the first 1 or 2 month, we can do a lean startup selecting 3 tipster and not 4.
How many people have you got so far ? I am interested in this investment but I want to see how it goes first.
I think this is a very good odea it will put our minds at ease.
Well why don't you buy the service and share some tips of that service, and then people can start seeing that you bought something good and want to take par in it. If your tipster is good enough you should start earning for the service itself, and then get some good support from the users that want to join you.
I think this is a very good odea it will put our minds at ease.
Well why don't you buy the service and share some tips of that service, and then people can start seeing that you bought something good and want to take par in it. If your tipster is good enough you should start earning for the service itself, and then get some good support from the users that want to join you.
I think the way you do it is very good to follow. Yet we are here still do not know you well and you are still a newbie in this forum, so we are still waiting for things to convince me and everyone here. You can give a tips free for a few weeks to give a trust us to you.
because in this forum common scams that trick is almost the same as you, so I and everyone had a sense of caution to those who offer a cooperation, tips, etc.
because in this forum common scams that trick is almost the same as you, so I and everyone had a sense of caution to those who offer a cooperation, tips, etc.
I'm interested in this if we have enough amount of people here also if you give us the details about the tipster and his past results
and if you can pass it to a trusted member then this would be way better , I think you are not lying about it but at the end you are newbie and this may be a smart idea to take 250 euros for free from a group of people
sorry man but business is business
and if you can pass it to a trusted member then this would be way better , I think you are not lying about it but at the end you are newbie and this may be a smart idea to take 250 euros for free from a group of people
sorry man but business is business
I'm rather interested. PM me.
The main point is that it would be cool to have some kind of guarantee that you're going to use this money to pay the tipsters.
Your account is really new so... Well I wouldn't be really at ease at just sending you the money ^^
The main point is that it would be cool to have some kind of guarantee that you're going to use this money to pay the tipsters.
Your account is really new so... Well I wouldn't be really at ease at just sending you the money ^^
Yes man, you are absolute right! But I don't want sell anything, I don't have the tips. Actually, my purpose is a serious cooperation. The goal for every one is earn some money, my idea is reduce the risk of loss.
Ok, is not a new idea, no magic, but also not scam. Only a project, maybe we'll fail, maybe we can do it!
I can provide the last year bets record if you want. Cheers
Ok, is not a new idea, no magic, but also not scam. Only a project, maybe we'll fail, maybe we can do it!
I can provide the last year bets record if you want. Cheers
That is an projection of how much we could earn during last year, with a 20 people group.
The subscription it would cost €15/month and we could earn :
€200/month with 3 € units value on bets.
€336/month with 5 € units value on bets.
€672/month with 10 € units value on bets.
The subscription it would cost €15/month and we could earn :
€200/month with 3 € units value on bets.
€336/month with 5 € units value on bets.
€672/month with 10 € units value on bets.
Its not gona work like that man,show us some tips here for few weeks and people might belive you! Cheers.
That is an projection of how much we could earn during last year, with a 20 people group.
The subscription it would cost €15/month and we could earn :
€200/month with 3 € units value on bets.
€336/month with 5 € units value on bets.
€672/month with 10 € units value on bets.
The subscription it would cost €15/month and we could earn :
€200/month with 3 € units value on bets.
€336/month with 5 € units value on bets.
€672/month with 10 € units value on bets.
The group is growing. Someone else wants to participate?
Please give more details. €250 sounds like a lot to me.
€250 is a sum of 4 tipster service and Yes, €250 it's a lot for me too! For that reason I want share the tipster subscription, in other words, I want create a group where every one pay the own part. If we are in 20 we pay €12,50 each one, if we are in 50 we pay 5€ etc.
How work?
I receive the tips and I send instantly the info to group with email, telegram, or something else.
I'm looking for partecipants!
what do you say?you join?
Hi international friends,
I want to start a tipster project, the idea is share a tipster subscription, reduce cost and diversify the investment.
This is the equity curve that result with 4 different tipster.
Profit: 1009,50 units
Max drawdown : 54 units
The total cost of tipster is 250 €, I want split the subscription, so more people mean less price.
I know, I'am a newby, but I need your trust for this start up period.
Write me to [email protected] for more details like tipster name, record, ecc.
Sorry for my bad english, I'm working on!
Please give more details. €250 sounds like a lot to me. I want to start a tipster project, the idea is share a tipster subscription, reduce cost and diversify the investment.
This is the equity curve that result with 4 different tipster.
Profit: 1009,50 units
Max drawdown : 54 units
The total cost of tipster is 250 €, I want split the subscription, so more people mean less price.
I know, I'am a newby, but I need your trust for this start up period.
Write me to [email protected] for more details like tipster name, record, ecc.
Sorry for my bad english, I'm working on!
Hi international friends,
I want to start a tipster project, the idea is share a tipster subscription, reduce cost and diversify the investment.
This is the equity curve that result with 4 different tipster.
http://i63.tinypic.com/9k9p9l.png
Profit: 1009,50 units
Max drawdown : 54 units
The total cost of tipster is 250 €, I want split the subscription, so more people mean less price.
I know, I'am a newby, but I need your trust for this start up period.
Write me to [email protected] for more details like tipster name, record, ecc.
Sorry for my bad english, I'm working on!
I want to start a tipster project, the idea is share a tipster subscription, reduce cost and diversify the investment.
This is the equity curve that result with 4 different tipster.
http://i63.tinypic.com/9k9p9l.png
Profit: 1009,50 units
Max drawdown : 54 units
The total cost of tipster is 250 €, I want split the subscription, so more people mean less price.
I know, I'am a newby, but I need your trust for this start up period.
Write me to [email protected] for more details like tipster name, record, ecc.
Sorry for my bad english, I'm working on!
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