Topic: To all BMs, here is a list of fake French translators - help us tag them ! (Read 663 times)

we don't need this anymore.

I lock.

Devcash is a special case that need a DT tag. He won't stop doing fake translation.

Well known French's already tag him :

I also read some of this work. Even as French native speaker sometime i don't understand sentence at all ...

Have to read on original English version to understand what he talk about ...

False translation for French community is a flea, this user was really smart cause translate only WhitePaper give you less visualization, so you avoid to be busted.

In fact actually lot of Bounty also ask people to read / verify work, maybe that need to be standard for ICO work / etc ...

I have start to read him, I really don't understand what he his talking about. I have take a look at the English whitepaper to understand.

He get paid for this ?

Since we now have a mod in the French board, I thought there would be no need for this thread anymore... until I found this guy :

DEVCASH

This one is "special" because he only translates whitepapers, never anything else. That way, he leaves no trace on the forum.
But he still takes the jobs away from real translators, something he is not.
He never posted anything in the French section, not a single post.

This is some of his work :
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lrHnmO5LDQ3uKwCJE4hIEGamIvATmqeE9fqpjqVJpCc/edit
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1iYIpJ25EQ61Z1n2J8aEvrNqWIzRXza5CD_McSsTnv00/edit
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1F9tZ7-ymwp4UcTfuAnZ851dXy9GDqB3nXP87nP0M86k/edit
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hYiWOIFOiuylhPn1obzJR7t4Jlr_fHwRqTnNf8HGl8Y/edit


Let's have a look at the first link...
-the first sentence already is absurd "Devise qui motive la productivité, apporte de la valeur et facilite le fonctionnement." >>>"a coin that motivates productivity, brings value and facilitates functioning"...ok but functioning of what ?
-page 5 : "Les créateurs de nouvelles monnaies numériques vendent une partie de la monnaie à l'avance de la mise en œuvre, afin que les investisseurs entrent sur le terrain et pour les créateurs de devises pour recueillir des fonds pour finaliser le développement de leur technologie" >>>again, doesn't mean anything
-page 8 : "La recherche sur les questions de la motivation des employés depuis le 1950s a toujours démontré que la satisfaction professionnelle extrême est directement attribuable à divers facteurs tangibles et intangibles">>>sorry but in French we don't say the 50's, we say "les annees 50" .No French person would have left it like that in a translation.
-same page :  "Lorsque les récompenses des employés et des bénéfices sont directement liés à la réussite de l'organisation à travers les produits en cours d'élaboration, et peuvent être mesurés par des gains financiers, alors peut être améliorer l'engagement des employés et la motivation.">>>long sentence that just misses... a verb.


Anyone who speaks French will confirm this has been done with a translating tool.

John, you forgot to add the last one in your op.

Here is one more :
evian

He did this :
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--4602345

-"30% mensuels des ventes ou revenus des revenus seront réinvestis dans le maintien du prix de la pièce et l'achat à la valeur marchande actuelle.">>>makes no sense. What the hell are the revenues of the revenues ?
- "Une crypto-monnaie communautaire. Sera offert par les avions." >>>he's actually saying that the coin will be offered by planes. I can't wait to see that.
-"Deux tours de simplement envoyer votre adresse à notre compte bitcointalk comme message".>>>I have no idea what he meant with this one
-"S'il vous plaît nous offrir du temps! ">>>that's robot language I guess

He has applied for 8 or 9 other French translations in the past couple of days. Please stop him before he gets any of these jobs.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/evian-1869983

This is not the first time he has translated in French:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--4583032
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--4552103

Actually, we're looking for help from DTs, not moderation.
Thepharmacist, suchmoon and Darkstar_ are the ones who tagged those guys in the original thread. Not sure they will read this one but if any DT does, their help would be appreciated.
I created the first thread but wasn't willing to go on with it as it became a bit complicated for me. But the issue still exists, and like John it pisses me off to see that there are still some people who think they can get away with this kind of bs in the French section. It's easier to pull a scam like this when there is no moderation.
That's why we need to solve the problem at the root, by tagging those guys (most of them not only do this in the French section but also in other local boards).

german speak so good english that they don't care.

I add this cheater, thank you.

John, you can add this one to the list.
the10ur

The guy is Turkish and applies for translations in German, French and Turkish.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.40538854


He recently posted this in the French board :
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--4585898

Half of the stuff is still in English. Pictures are not translated, often a proof that the guy did the job in a few minutes, not caring about quality.
-"nous avons déjà déposé nos demandes d'inscription à plusieurs bourses." >>the guy says they have appplied for the stock exchange, what we call "la bourse" in France ! He probably meant that they applied to be on an exchange but since he didn't know how to translate, that's the result.
-"pourtant, pour pousser notre projet au sommet et organiser une campagne de promotion de la qualité, payer pour l'inscription sur les différents services, payer les frais aux bourses, et rembourser les investissements initiaux nous avons besoin de btc. ">>>that is not even a sentence
-"chaque bloc un seul masternode gagne la récompense du masternode">>>in English, you could translate that into "each block one masternode wins the reward of the masternode" .I guess he forgot a couple of words there.
-"il existe de nombreux projets de masternode à plusieurs niveaux avec une exigence de montant de pièce différente pour un masternode différents niveaux">>>he just said : "there are many masternode projects on different levels with a requirement of amount of tokens different for a different masternode." Hummm... and I even tried to make it look like it meant something.

It's like this guy created his own personal code to speak a language that looks like French but is definitely not French.

Unfortunately, he also did this :
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--4585793
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--4547874
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--4517247
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--4178204

So it's not a one time thing, the guy is definitely a scammer.

Just found out he could translate in Arabic too. But apparently, he only learnt French and German recently since he didn't always apply for those languages lol :


The guy is a real asset to the board speaking so many languages. 
 I wonder why he never posts in those local sections besides those fake translations he does.

sorry guys, real problem is that we need a moderator for helping us.

Well, aren't you a bundle of joy? I'm just explaining why it isn't a moderators responsibility.  There's no real need to be rude as I'm not the one that's spamming the french local board or providing fake translations am I?

Anyway, I'm sure someone that is fluent in French will be able to help you out sooner rather than later.

Quite the irony when you yourself are breaking the rules:

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What am I missing? And who are you referring to?

hope one DT will take a look w/o I ask.

I have ask french pple to close it

can you think one second only what i live ??

Only one guy is not tagged by DT and you say they don't care? If you know any french DT member, contact them next time, maybe they will get tagged soon.

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By the way people have asked for less, and have waited for more than a year for that, don't think you're the only one here.

Translations which are inaccurate or translated through services like Google translate aren't the moderators responsibility. Look at the English sections of this forum, and you'll find they aren't moderated there either.

Look like DT don't care anymore..

Look like the french board have to be closed... We are tired without moderator. One year I ask the same thing, one fucking year !

I have added B1cashfrancais, he should have been in the list a long time ago, we'd forgotten a bit about him and his thread...

so:

"A platform, due to be launched at the end of March, is a financial aggregator through which users will be able to manage their finances through a single interface: make payments peer-to-peer, play crypto-currency trading, insure assets in crypto-currency, use alternative financial services and provide them through an open API.
B1.CASH allows easy use of bank accounts and cards, digital money and crypto-currencies. Each user can add a current wallet to the system or create a new one.
a new digital wallet or crypto wallet in a platform quickly."

What can I say except it's not French ? it's a bad automated translation.

Unfortunately, that's not all...

7 pages - 130 posts- of spam with low quality automated translations, many alt* that use low quality automated translations too to answer his "google translate" ANN... This thread should be delete of course..

http://archive.is/zfrqR

* : Accounts Connected for this automated translations: pinemeadeheights, Warren Ampersand, B1CASH, hunson abadeer, Emmanuel Bdt, Valentin Gnnc, Victor Henry, B1cashfrancais

Edit 15/07/18 :

We created this thread because our moderator didn't care about us, but now theymos has given us a new one, so we will add only the specials cases that our moderator can't moderate.
 
For example: a fake translator who only translate WPs, so he doesn't have to post in the french section and can stay incognito - They are call "Special Case" in the table below.

List of fake French translators (approved by the French community) ; all what we need is Red tag for Special Case, thank you :