Topic: To all higher ranked members here (Read 905 times)

When i first hear about bitcointalk forum i dont know there is some kind of bounty which i can earn some bucks . At first i wasnt familiar with bitcoin so i just join the forum and read the post of senior members to gain more knowledge about bitcoin. After that bounty attracts my mind and i  joined the different bounty camping and didnt post any thing in this forum except my report in bounty camping which is just garbage. So till now  my merit is zero i realize my mistake. After the rules is implement that one merit is necessary to become jr member i demoted to newbie. Then my main focus is to gain merit but right now honestly I am enjoying in this forum by participating in different discussion which for sure invoke my knowledge in the field of Crypto as well as i also share some my experience in the forum. I am not native English speaker my English is not good so far though i am also focusing to improve my English language so i can make quality post.

May be those account created in 2015 also made same mistake i have done so they demoted to newbie.
Thanks . Have a great day

This should be in the works. Either that or increasing the requirement. These shitposters think whining will get them sympathy votes. We saw this same thing happening when the merit system was introduced. They like to argue on this much-abused, typical left-liberal plank of "But we are all equal, aren't we".  The answer is "No! We are not all equal on this forum."

If the whiners could have paused for a second and removed the greed of accruing free money/ tokens, they would have realized what a great place the forum actually is. They would have noticed that people with deep knowledge of Mathematics, Computer Science, Cryptography and with novel and radical opinions on the role money ought to play in society spent their time here. If they were here for anything else other than copy-pasting reports or increasing post-count, they would have learnt to act better.

I joined here after reading about one of the signature campaigns. I spent my share of time being blinded by the promises of quick buck and posting those "reports." Seeing responses on the ANN threads i used to visit as a new member, I started asking questions about post quality and spam problems. I started reading the debate and discussions at r/bitcoin, nakamotoinstitute.org, bitcoin.org and the other old stuff. I got involved and took my position on bitcoin's importance for the world and society. I now wish to go deeper into the technical aspects and dedicate a portion of my time to learn.

I share my experience so some of you too can realize  that learning about the technology and the ideas behind it is a much better prospect in the long term than simply spamming the forum for crumbs. This will surely not make any difference to those with bot armies but it should to people who are actually looking to be part of the future. Those who would learn from this latest change will be better-off in the long run. Those who are just going to raise this immature hue and cry about the place being unfair, not being EQUAL enough or trying to be some sort of left-leaning revolutionary here will get what they deserve in time.

Without quoting any of the posts in this thread relevant to my point (because there certainly are a LOT of them), and at the risk of being flamed to a crisp, I get the need to eradicate spam and garbage shit posts - and I support that effort. But how is it that so many members tout the high and mighty objective of the forum (being to learn about and/or educate others about Bitcoin with informative and instructive posts)... and so many bitch and whine and moan about how much site content and resources are wasted by bounty hunting signature campaign spammers... Yet, it is perfectly acceptable to get into profanity laced pissing contests that further hijack threads away from their constructive aims.

How are the "my dick is bigger than your dick" pissing matches any less offensive to the true purpose behind Bitcointalk?

Many newbies and jr. members are stereotyped as shitpost spammers; but there are some higher ranked members who come across as elitist asshats also who take any alternative viewpoint as a challenge to their manhood.

In many ways, I think it is much easier to navigate past a thread topic title that I can tell just by looking at it is going to be a waste of my time spam thread -- and I can choose to skip it.  But there is no easy way to identify and wade through the mindless insults fired back and forth in a thread like this one...

I'm not calling out anyone by name and just talking in generalities.  But it seems to me that both the pot and the kettle are black. Why is one practice demonized and the other welcomed when both have the same end result of diluting the constructive and informative posts for those who really just want to chat about Bitcoin?

The last cry has not been heard. But why cry over spilt milk?  And why questioning the decision of the forum for which you agree to the terms and conditions? It is one of the causes of the problem that led to what you are complaining about.

The new rule is quite good, at least for me. I know many people create an account to spam. And when they are enough possible activity, they will be upgraded to Jr member. This is unfair if someone "farm" Jr Member to do signature bounty campaign. Now, you must post a quality post to receive merit

Sorry for the shitpost but I have to say this:

LMAO

But seriously, I’m laughing my ass off right now.

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Ménage à trois?

Suffer? I don't think unable to ware signature is any kinds of suffer. To be in this forum no need to ware signature or rank up.

Or, if they have managed to reach the Legendary rank, but they are still posting shit, it's also possible that someone will report them. There's no rule like Legendary rank makes someone safe from the reports... So it's not a kind of insurance if someone have higher rank, spammers will be reported, sooner or later...

I love this moment so much I want to have sex with it.

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And I do not agree with you plagiarizing. Enjoy your ban.


Post archived: https://archive.is/uDZBq
Source: https://coinspectator.com/news/832284/bancor-post-ico-update-september-2018

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Double edit:

This moment is so great, I'd cheat on that other moment from before, marry this one and raise a family of tiny little moments.

Source: Dr Cox. Don't ban me.

It is necessary to act according to the rule
Criticize - offer
But for beginners, instead of useful posts it's easier to shout about a bad system
Soon they will understand that this is useless
Useless topics / posts will not give you merit.

I do not agree with your opinion, not all JR members are like you say. I am disappointed with this new rule that it does not comply with the decentralized ideology that crypto is aiming for.

Yo my cunty pal. All good I hope

Let's just chill out and just ignore this since OP's sentiments is narrow and didn't accepting that he should just live with this or he can leave the forum, peacefully.

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Yeah, maybe by now your account was been reported to moderators as you vulgarly doing copy paste. Oh wait, don't think that you've been bullied, you started this anyway.

Doesn't/wouldn't work. They can already do that but as long as something can be put in their signature ICO crap campaigns can and will pay them for it. We need to force their hand by removing it completely so nothing can be put there so there's nothing for them to be paid for. Juniors can't even have a link in their sig but Junior accounts are being farmed in their thousands to take advantage that campaigns will pay them for any spam they can be bothered to make (or copy and paste). I do hope theymos will remove their signatures at some point because it effects their ability to post zero and they can still purchase a Copper Membership to get a Member-level signature anyway, but I would argue Copper should just include some basic whitelisting features because it's too cheap as it is. We could introduce Silver and Gold ranks that are more expensive and include Full/Hero-member benefits instead.

I've been saying this for quite some time. Or maybe Juniors could be allowed to make a personal staement without a link of site reference.

This is why we need more than a one merit requirement. One is fine for merely moving up from Newbie to Junior, but not to get a signature and to be able to earn from them here. One half decent post or copy and paste can get you that sole merit that you need then you're good to go and carry on with the shitposting, but it's obviously ten times harder to get ten merit. Signatures should be removed from Juniors completely because one merit is nothing and doesn't and shouldn't qualify you to earn via posting here. Ten is a different matter. I would even argue that signatures should only be available to much higher ranked members who have actually achieved a substantial amount of merit and that really would be a reward for those who contribute something valuable here and for those that don't then sorry, but you can't earn from posting. The forum would be a much cleaner place if this was to happen but with this tiny change it's not going to clean up the forum by much, just throw a small spanner in the works or some, but once they get that merit they'll carry on as usual and revert to shitposting if campaigns will keep paying them for it.

Welcome back TMAN - I thought you had joined the Sally Army.

We need you to comment on all the whingeing pricks that are killing some of the boards at the moment. They are turning them into fly blown middens.

@hilariousetc, it's copy/pasted.


https://medium.com/@chopra.raghav2180/explaining-blockchain-as-if-you-are-a-5-year-old-kid-df543f137f81

Futile argument you're making when you're indulging in something like this.

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At a time when such a restriction is implemented, it doesn't makes sense whatsoever when a senior member/s are rewarding merits without going through a user/s post history.

I'm not here to beg for merit points. If that is your case go and find weaker people to change their minds and find yourself a new game. 

I gave you some great advise earlier, if you had an IQ of above 34 you would of taken the bait and changed the bleeding vagina voice, got with the program and probably got a merit off me for being a good sport. Instead, you go on the ignore list and prove to others that moaning and bitching about what other people have isn't the right way to go!

Enjoy changing that tampon.

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you are a smelly little used condom - I think you smell and that your mum should of swallowed you.

report that - get laughed at my little flower..

If you find any harsh comments or whenever someone uses vulgar language you can click on "Report to moderator" 

So you think that perfection is having a Friend who is a Member; Hero Member or whatever and just gifts you merit points? there is no restriction on how you give out the points

yeah i got that but thing is higher ranked members may or may not be highly qualified and newbies might or might not be noobs when it comes to technology.i agree with that example what you have mentioned.But problem here is you never know who is useful at work now because some people who are having higher rank now didn't worked hard as much as newbies are working hard right now.

What? the new system is perfect, its a perfect 10 blonde with 34EE titties and a confirmed sex addict, I want to put my penis in the new system so much - I have laughed and laughed today reading these posts its awesome.

The pain coming out of the people who are going to be kicked off campaigns is proof that the new change is awesome, because these people are not here for the right reasons. Anyone who is here for the right reasons wont care about rank, they want to learn and integrate into the community, those that do stand out and get rewarded with merits.

don't get confused and missunderstand me. I'm one of the last persons who has lost anything since I'm new in here, July 04.  I'm just pointing out the obvious.. And the obvious is that this new system is not perfect. It's somehow better in some aspects from the old one but there are still things that need to be improven.

How i wish i get to know bitcointalk way around 2015, maybe im a legendary member by now.

Cool down guys, thats only merits, lets just enjoy being in this forum. If they will give us merits then thank you. If they don’t, its fine. Lets use this to learn cryptocurrency.

if your post had not started out like a bleeding vagina I would of given you the merit.. so yes, saying anything is unfair isnt the way to deal with it - fuck anyone else, worry about yourself and if needed improve yourself to get to your goal.

that's not the problem, everyone can work hard to get what it deserve. nut it's just to point out that some newbies can get to Jr Member or even Member just by having a "Friend" being in a much higher level for whatever reason. I'm new to this forum since i discovered Cryptocurency in the past month so it's not that i've lost anything big. But at least yesterday my account was Jr. Member and i wake up today being a newbie again. nothing i can't work for. beside getting 1 merit point to get again in Jr. Member is not Mission Impossible 7  

Because people are signing up to this forum in droves just to shitpost over hundreds of accounts each and something needed to change. Care to make some suggestions how we can take back the forum from bounty hunting copy and paste spammers?


Personally I would prefer it if everybody started from scratch and zero merits. I'd be fine but that would certainly sort the wheat from the chaff. I'd also prefer it if that nobody could have a signature until they achieved 500 or 1000 merits or something. Now that really would make a difference to the quality of discussions here.


Why? So you and your thousand alt accounts can sway the vote? Polls are useless here. How about making a constructive argument or suggestions to improve the place instead of just complaining.


We've been discussing how to make this place better for years. Where were your contributions to those discussions? You were probably too busy shitposting to even care. Now a spanner has been thrown in the works and you're suddenly a concerned citizen who is outraged.


This forum is centralised. Go join a decentralised forum if you want that.


Twisted logic. What about the hundreds and sometimes thousands of quality posts we made before the merit system was even introduced? It isn't fair we never got merited for them. What about all those who actually joined in bitcoin and this forum because we actually fell in love with the tech or the politics behind bitcoin and not just signed up because somebody told them they can get paid by posting here? That's why we need changes because bounty hunters and sig spammers have ruined this forum.

Someone find me where this is text-spun from:


Stands out like a sore thumb over his other shitposts and the grammar is different.


Most of these people are probably kids or immature adults at best. They're babies who've had their pocket money taken away and are throwing a temper tantrum about it.

The Merit system is in place now & there’s nothing you can do about it. If you’re a newbie you’ll need to work harder to gain Merit, that’s just the way it is. Try & be different, stand out.

It’s like when you leave school & you’re the new kid at work. You get the shit jobs in the office, you have to make the coffee & the tea but as time passes & you get more experience you become useful at work. You’re not the new kid all of a sudden & then a new, new kid joins

If you get me

People need to realise that life is unfair, the world owes you nothing - This forum owes you nothing.

Process that, then see merit as a challenge not an problem, Learn and adapt as many other newbies have. If you keep up with the blinkered outlook that others got something that you didn't then you will not go far in life.

Not all of them suffer from something like this. I was a Newbie at the time Merit system was introduced, and I never felt like suffering because of that. You only suffer if you don't have what it takes, and that is because of your own inabilities. You cannot blame the system for that.


Not every one have gotten into higher positions because of the post quality in past, and each and every step being taken right now are the consequences of those things. If there was no spam, account farming or anything like that in past, there wouldn't have been anything to stop it, like the Merit system and now this, but it happened, and to tackle that, the community had to do something and so they did.
Besides, even if there was no spam in past and no system like this until now, I'm sure they would have been implemented later in future, seeing the current situation of the forum.


Again, if that was true, I and many other users wouldn't have been able to earn any, and remain Newbies until now, like many of you. There is no partiality in the eyes of anyone in the forum, but you need to show them that you are worthy of it.


Yeah, so that you guys can outrun us by 1/1000 votes on every 1% counted.   That really sounds like a good idea to me. theymos should probably try something like this next time when he is doing something to prevent spam or something. I mean, it isn't a bad idea to have a poll among the workers of a company before firing them (because they have been constantly ruining the reputation of it) and act according the results of that. Is it?  


Because Bitcoin doesn't need moderation, and Bitcointalk does (?).  

Ok in this discussion thread you must have observed that whatever the post done by a higher ranked member gets merit no matter what they post and lower ranked member never gets it.Just to demonstrate it live i have created this thread.I hope administrators and moderators look into this issue.

It is so strange seeing accounts created in 2015 chastising people for being newbies on this forum. 

"While we will not be directly moderating this, I encourage people to give merit to posts that are objectively high-quality, not just posts that you agree with" This was taken form the https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/merit-new-rank-requirements-2818350
Well it's best to say that if someone knows a legendary member or even just a member, will get into Jr member because his friend will just give 1 merit to him/her. Do you thing this is fair??

So you agree that you are one of the spammer from 2015 to 2017.And you got enlightened in 2018 by then you were a Hero member.Nice move.

WRONG!
If somebody who is a Legendary Member was a regular shitposter & or spammer it’s likely that somebody would have reported their posts & they’d have been banned before reaching Full Member status.


Most Legendary Members post at least mediocre quality posts.

Doesn't matter when it happened.Because mistakes need to be pointed out from past to correct it in future.

Sorry, but how a post from 2015 where I join a signature campaign has anything to do with this? You WHOLE post history is shit.

You literally went stalking for a post from 3 years ago to post here. How delusional can you be? Now, can you try with any of my last ~3000 posts?

January 24. I guess I'm just 9 months late to this thread  

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12594038

Exactly this is why i claim most of people of higher ranked members here are purely based on luck.You can check where you stand. 

1. It adds nothing to the discussion.
2. It adds nothing to anyone's life.
3. It's just an effortless oner liner made while you were shitpost bursting for the sake of filling a quota or increasing your post count. You literally go from post to post writing the first thing that comes to your mind.

It's simply just a waste of bandwidth and space on the server's database.

I'm sorry if you are so delusional that you can't see how bad your post is and how wrong is your mentality on this forum.

This is the first result when you Google "BitcoinTalk merit": https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/merit-new-rank-requirements-2818350

can you please share an article for me to read more about this? I'm new into it and haven't found anything usefull on google search. beside someone claiming that the merit system is heading towards 0 with the exemple I mentioned 

The word airdrop is too much expensive word in this scenario as it's purely a luck so let's call, merits are "donated" to higher ranked members as they didn't had one.

Have you not read anything about how the merit system works?  It's not exactly new at this point.
*Never mind, you're newer than I thought.*

The reason we don't run out of merits is because the merit source members keep getting their sMerits replenished.  So there's not a fixed amount at any given time.  It keeps increasing.  And I would add that Theymos just added 36 more merit sources AND advised them to be somewhat liberal when handing out merits to Newbies.  I've been trying to be liberal so far, but right now there's a hell of a lot of spam threads and merit-grabbing attempts.  

I'm going to hold off until this all settles.  Some noobs, no doubt, are trying to make their best posts ever in order to get out of newbie hell, and then they'll likely go right back to shitposting.

You're free to call it whatever you want, but you're obviously not grasping the "life isn't fair" concept.  I'd also point out that you're just now complaining about something that happened back in January and that it's useless to complain about it.

There is nothing to correct. It's pure trash.

1. It adds nothing to the discussion.
2. It adds nothing to anyone's life.
3. It's just an effortless oner liner made while you were shitpost bursting for the sake of filling a quota or increasing your post count. You literally go from post to post writing the first thing that comes to your mind.

It's simply just a waste of bandwidth and space on the server's database.

I'm sorry if you are so delusional that you can't see how bad your post is and how wrong is your mentality on this forum.

i understand there are people just spaming but there are others as well, not all goes into one category

Correct me if i am wrong then instead of claiming it as thrash.

How can i get merit points if with the sharing system 5>2.5>1.25>0.625> we are heading to zero? 

Early adoption =/= luck.

Regardless, I was only a lowly member rank when merit was introduced, and now I have 500+ of them. What's your excuse for me?

Maybe if you spent half as much time reading and improving as you do blaming others, merit wouldn't be so difficult for you to earn.

Noob is just a relative experience .Before saying someone as noob remember Satoshi would think you as noob too.So let's be professional on that.Most noobs aren't pure spammers by the way.

Yeah i agree life isn't fair because i have to deal with the higher ranked members here who got into higher rank purely based on luck.Yes they suck up the fact too.  

You don't get merit because you post trash like this:

You're delusional.


You could be theymos himself, but with this post history, satoshi would get out of his grave to permaban you.

Nope ,they suffer because they don't have Legendary membership here and they don't get merit for whatever they post (if you know what i mean   ) .Moreover the truth is most legendary members here are legendary because of their luck nothing more.

Again, you're another noob who was nowhere to be found when this was actually being discussed, which it has been for months now.  

If anyone had started a poll, guaranteed you would have missed it, just like you missed the dozens of other threads asking the same question you just asked.  Most noobs are pure spammers and don't deserve to be able to wear advertising in their signature.  That's obvious to most senior members AND Theymos himself.  

Also, life isn't fair.  Suck it up and deal with it, because that fact likely isn't going to change in your lifetime.  However, this change is completely fair given how badly the spammers have diluted all the good posts with their nonsense.

Timing was important, yes.  Deal with it.  But you're wrong about this being luck.  Legendaries put in a lot of time here posting and many have still earned lots of merits on top of what they were airdropped.  Again, you're going to have to deal with it.  Nobody cares about claims of "this isn't fair, wahhhh".

Newbies and juniors suffer because they keep starting duplicate threads like this one.

The new rule introduced is really not cool.Why only newbies and Jr Members has to suffer each and every time? So before merit system people who are legendary right now, got into that position by their quality of post ? No right? They might have spammed too to get into member,Hero member and legendary.So why no action on them ?

Moreover being a newbie or Jr Member if someone post a constructively no one bats an eye here to give merit.But being a hero member or legendary member when someone posts everyone loses their mind and someone gonna merit it.Sad truth.I am just saying the reality of Bitcointalk right now,just posting on behalf of all my fellow Newbies and Jr Members.Hope the justice is served.

Last thing let's start with a polling mechanism here before you guys take any random decisions like this and ask participants to adhere on it,if bitcoin is decentralized why not Bitcointalk ?

Any thoughts on this?