To the believers and would-be investors in Quantum Computing / D-Wave

mobodick

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Quote from: myrkul on January 12, 2013, 04:23:01 PM

Quote from: mobodick on January 12, 2013, 04:20:41 PM

Quote from: ImNotHerb on January 11, 2013, 11:36:38 PM

Quote from: ElectricMucus on January 11, 2013, 02:41:11 PM

Oh well, that should be pretty easy to test.

Yes, if they weren't so secretive about exactly is inside the shielded black-box and its capabilities - not to mention the claims that it utilizes a much-hyped "future tech" that has fundamental physical limitations in scalability beyond rudimentary proof of concept experiments. As it stands, it's got all the earmarks of a type of scam that's as old as the hills.

Yes, because not showing anything working was exactly how they landed a contract with Lockheed Martin.. Grin

http://www.nanotech-now.com/news.cgi?story_id=42543

It's not like L-M is risking it's own money... all those juicy gov't contracts.

LOL,.., Touche.

myrkul

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Quote from: mobodick on January 12, 2013, 04:20:41 PM

Quote from: ImNotHerb on January 11, 2013, 11:36:38 PM

Quote from: ElectricMucus on January 11, 2013, 02:41:11 PM

Oh well, that should be pretty easy to test.

Yes, if they weren't so secretive about exactly is inside the shielded black-box and its capabilities - not to mention the claims that it utilizes a much-hyped "future tech" that has fundamental physical limitations in scalability beyond rudimentary proof of concept experiments. As it stands, it's got all the earmarks of a type of scam that's as old as the hills.

Yes, because not showing anything working was exactly how they landed a contract with Lockheed Martin.. Grin

http://www.nanotech-now.com/news.cgi?story_id=42543

It's not like L-M is risking it's own money... all those juicy gov't contracts.

mobodick

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Quote from: ImNotHerb on January 11, 2013, 11:36:38 PM

Quote from: ElectricMucus on January 11, 2013, 02:41:11 PM

Oh well, that should be pretty easy to test.

Yes, if they weren't so secretive about exactly is inside the shielded black-box and its capabilities - not to mention the claims that it utilizes a much-hyped "future tech" that has fundamental physical limitations in scalability beyond rudimentary proof of concept experiments. As it stands, it's got all the earmarks of a type of scam that's as old as the hills.

Yes, because not showing anything working was exactly how they landed a contract with Lockheed Martin.. Grin

http://www.nanotech-now.com/news.cgi?story_id=42543

mobodick

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Quote from: ElectricMucus on January 11, 2013, 02:41:11 PM

Oh well, that should be pretty easy to test.

If they solve an NP-Complete problem which would take more power to crack using traditional methods than is currently doable they are legit.
So far they haven't demonstrated that, but this thing should be capable of delivering.

I bet they have an ant farm inside the box...

ElectricMucus

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Quote from: ImNotHerb on January 12, 2013, 02:17:21 PM

Quote from: ElectricMucus on January 11, 2013, 11:41:24 PM

Quote from: ImNotHerb on January 11, 2013, 11:36:38 PM

Quote from: ElectricMucus on January 11, 2013, 02:41:11 PM

Oh well, that should be pretty easy to test.

Yes, if they weren't so secretive about exactly is inside the shielded black-box and its capabilities - not to mention the claims that it utilizes a much-hyped "future tech" that has fundamental physical limitations in scalability beyond rudimentary proof of concept experiments. As it stands, it's got all the earmarks of a type of scam that's as old as the hills.

Did u read & understand my post?

Yes I did.

It would give them credibility if they could provide solutions to intractable problems or give the factors of RSA-2048, but they've done nothing of the sort and in fact avoid saying it will do anything specific. They make only vague statements about using it for "business solutions" but not a word about what sort of processes it can handle "out of the box" (so to speak) - or even that it will run any processes at all.

That's like asking people who climb mountains to climb the highest mountain on mars. They are claiming that they did climb the highest mountain didn't they? A complete fraud!!! Wink

What you are asking is simply even beyond the theoretical capabilities.

Don't ask me what kind of applications they have in mind, but if you are really interested (or really skeptical for that matter) I'm sure the information is out there.

ImNotHerb

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Quote from: ElectricMucus on January 11, 2013, 11:41:24 PM

Quote from: ImNotHerb on January 11, 2013, 11:36:38 PM

Quote from: ElectricMucus on January 11, 2013, 02:41:11 PM

Oh well, that should be pretty easy to test.

Yes, if they weren't so secretive about exactly is inside the shielded black-box and its capabilities - not to mention the claims that it utilizes a much-hyped "future tech" that has fundamental physical limitations in scalability beyond rudimentary proof of concept experiments. As it stands, it's got all the earmarks of a type of scam that's as old as the hills.

Did u read & understand my post?

Yes I did.

It would give them credibility if they could provide solutions to intractable problems or give the factors of RSA-2048, but they've done nothing of the sort and in fact avoid saying it will do anything specific. They make only vague statements about using it for "business solutions" but not a word about what sort of processes it can handle "out of the box" (so to speak) - or even that it will run any processes at all.

ElectricMucus

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Quote from: ImNotHerb on January 11, 2013, 11:36:38 PM

Quote from: ElectricMucus on January 11, 2013, 02:41:11 PM

Oh well, that should be pretty easy to test.

Yes, if they weren't so secretive about exactly is inside the shielded black-box and its capabilities - not to mention the claims that it utilizes a much-hyped "future tech" that has fundamental physical limitations in scalability beyond rudimentary proof of concept experiments. As it stands, it's got all the earmarks of a type of scam that's as old as the hills.

Did u read & understand my post?

If they demonstrate capabilities which would require more energy than we currently can utilize in computing it doesn't matter if it is a black box.
They could have a couple of monkeys with typewriters crammed in there for all I care if they do that.

ImNotHerb

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Quote from: ElectricMucus on January 11, 2013, 02:41:11 PM

Oh well, that should be pretty easy to test.

Yes, if they weren't so secretive about exactly is inside the shielded black-box and its capabilities - not to mention the claims that it utilizes a much-hyped "future tech" that has fundamental physical limitations in scalability beyond rudimentary proof of concept experiments. As it stands, it's got all the earmarks of a type of scam that's as old as the hills.

ElectricMucus

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Oh well, that should be pretty easy to test.

If they solve an NP-Complete problem which would take more power to crack using traditional methods than is currently doable they are legit.
So far they haven't demonstrated that, but this thing should be capable of delivering.

ImNotHerb

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Their website described the *ahem* ... "product"... as follows:

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Our current superconducting 128-qubit processor chip is housed inside a cryogenics system within a 10 square meter shielded room.

https://lh3.ggpht.com/-Rp-_nYzp51A/TeIvrhL36XI/AAAAAAAAPpc/9p4HVdLFJmc/s1600/d_wave_one_system_geordie_rose.jpg

Gee, a shielded black box that you can't look inside of - but oh, fer sure it's got a real live quantum computer that can be used in place of a regular computer... but no peeking!

It reminds me of the story of the Automaton Chess Player that gained fame in the late 1700's? Read about it - you might find it enlightening. Yes, truly, there's a sucker born every minute.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Turk
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/27/Kempelen_chess1.jpg/250px-Kempelen_chess1.jpg

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