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mewsie

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Quote from: Thanksforhelp on June 11, 2013, 09:23:41 AM

I'm 24 and I just want to see some kids smiling you dumb!

This whole thing is kind of pathetic...

Considerations before giving to a charity, for those based in the US - http://www.consumer.ftc.gov/articles/0074-giving-charity

Advice for Australians - http://www.scamwatch.gov.au/content/index.phtml/tag/charityscams

e.g.

The person tries to put pressure on you by making you feel guilty or selfish if you don’t want to donate.

Quote from: Thanksforhelp on June 11, 2013, 09:29:54 AM

I'll make this donations happen anyway.
It seems like here people won't do anything.

The person asking for money cannot or will not give you details about the charity, such as its full name, tax status, address or phone number.

Quote from: Thanksforhelp on June 11, 2013, 07:56:57 AM

All the bitcoins will be in sight, we will start helping poor children and their families by buying them what they need.

The person gets defensive if you ask any questions about what the charity does and how much of the donation gets taken up by costs.

Quote from: Thanksforhelp on June 11, 2013, 02:21:50 PM

You are crazy man! Donations aren't a scam!

The person doesn’t want to give you a receipt. Or, they give you a receipt that does not have the charity’s details on it.
etc...

dwdoc

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http://bitcoinsforcharity.org/

bitcoinchecker

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You may well be genuine and well-meaning, but your responses to criticism here have not done you or your "charity" any favours.

I doubt whether you'll get a single satoshi here because of your attitude.

If you still intend to pursue this worthy cause, you will need to add one more member to your team of four..... a PR person.

Shinodan

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Quote from: deadweasel on June 11, 2013, 09:45:45 AM

Quote from: Shinodan on June 11, 2013, 09:44:39 AM

Quote from: Bowjob on June 11, 2013, 08:07:52 AM

Quote from: deadweasel on June 11, 2013, 08:06:18 AM

Quote from: worldinacoin on June 11, 2013, 08:03:08 AM

I am not thinking it is a scam, just that I feel more details need to be given. We are in a forum where there are people of all kinds and types. Definitely there are some bad hats among us. It is better for everyone to be careful with their Bitcoins or fiat money. Of course, charity is a good cause, thats why I am urging you to release more details or others may think it is just a scam and I can't blame them.

This is a scam. If it was not a scam, there would be more than 5 minutes worth of effort put into the idea.

This is a scam. If it was not a scam, they would already be helping people with an established organization.

This is a scam. If it was not a scam, OP would have more than 5 posts.

This is a scam. If it was not a scam, evidence of the 'charity' would be presented obviously and helpfully at the very start.

This is a scam.

but.. but.. I sent my coins already! :/

Cant belive i watched that unfold...

"HEY I HAVE A CHARITY WEBSITE"

"HERES 10 BITCOIN"

10 bitcoin would sort me and my family out for months as i am genuinely poor. I really hope its not a scam. Would leave a bitter taste.
its amazing to see how frivolous the wealthy are with their money....

I bet that he did not actually send those BTC. It was in good humor.

I really hope so :| lol

deadweasel

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Quote from: Shinodan on June 11, 2013, 09:44:39 AM

Quote from: Bowjob on June 11, 2013, 08:07:52 AM

Quote from: deadweasel on June 11, 2013, 08:06:18 AM

Quote from: worldinacoin on June 11, 2013, 08:03:08 AM

I am not thinking it is a scam, just that I feel more details need to be given. We are in a forum where there are people of all kinds and types. Definitely there are some bad hats among us. It is better for everyone to be careful with their Bitcoins or fiat money. Of course, charity is a good cause, thats why I am urging you to release more details or others may think it is just a scam and I can't blame them.

This is a scam. If it was not a scam, there would be more than 5 minutes worth of effort put into the idea.

This is a scam. If it was not a scam, they would already be helping people with an established organization.

This is a scam. If it was not a scam, OP would have more than 5 posts.

This is a scam. If it was not a scam, evidence of the 'charity' would be presented obviously and helpfully at the very start.

This is a scam.

but.. but.. I sent my coins already! :/

Cant belive i watched that unfold...

"HEY I HAVE A CHARITY WEBSITE"

"HERES 10 BITCOIN"

10 bitcoin would sort me and my family out for months as i am genuinely poor. I really hope its not a scam. Would leave a bitter taste.
its amazing to see how frivolous the wealthy are with their money....

I bet that he did not actually send those BTC. It was in good humor.

Shinodan

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Quote from: Bowjob on June 11, 2013, 08:07:52 AM

Quote from: deadweasel on June 11, 2013, 08:06:18 AM

Quote from: worldinacoin on June 11, 2013, 08:03:08 AM

I am not thinking it is a scam, just that I feel more details need to be given. We are in a forum where there are people of all kinds and types. Definitely there are some bad hats among us. It is better for everyone to be careful with their Bitcoins or fiat money. Of course, charity is a good cause, thats why I am urging you to release more details or others may think it is just a scam and I can't blame them.

This is a scam. If it was not a scam, there would be more than 5 minutes worth of effort put into the idea.

This is a scam. If it was not a scam, they would already be helping people with an established organization.

This is a scam. If it was not a scam, OP would have more than 5 posts.

This is a scam. If it was not a scam, evidence of the 'charity' would be presented obviously and helpfully at the very start.

This is a scam.

but.. but.. I sent my coins already! :/

Cant belive i watched that unfold...

"HEY I HAVE A CHARITY WEBSITE"

"HERES 10 BITCOIN"

10 bitcoin would sort me and my family out for months as i am genuinely poor. I really hope its not a scam. Would leave a bitter taste.
its amazing to see how frivolous the wealthy are with their money....

deadweasel

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I am suspicious because there are more scammers here than any other place I've encountered.

jeannie

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Quote from: bitcoinchecker on June 11, 2013, 09:07:56 AM

Why would it need to be lies?

I said we don't want to write 10 pages to convince you to donate. You are doing this because you can simply help.

[/quote]

You don't have to write 10 pages of "lies" as you call it.

But you need a bit more than "send us some money so we can feed the poor" as noble as that cause might be.
[/quote]

That I agree, certainly need more than one sentence. Not that we are suspicious, there is simply too many scammers around

deadweasel

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Quote from: jeannie on June 11, 2013, 09:30:46 AM

I don't think it is necessary to start calling each other names. Just give the OP a chance to explain more.

I believe that chance has come and gone.

If OP wants to run a charitable organization, he needs to do it properly. Currently he is doing something which is indistinguishable from a scam.

As far as I'm concerned, if it's indistinguishable from a scam, then it Is A SCAM.

I have given OP a number of avenues to take to legitimize himself and his endeavor -- it's his job to do so.

jeannie

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I don't think it is necessary to start calling each other names. Just give the OP a chance to explain more.

Thanksforhelp

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Quote from: deadweasel on June 11, 2013, 09:27:21 AM

Quote from: Thanksforhelp on June 11, 2013, 09:23:41 AM

I'm 24 and I just want to see some kids smiling you dumb!

If that's all you want, go volunteer at the local soup kitchen. Your time will be well rewarded.

You need to understand that your approach on this forum is completely wrong. Had you done any research at all you would understand that.

From the PM you sent me:
____________________________

Quote from: Thanksforhelp on June 11, 2013, 02:21:50 PM

You are crazy man!
Donations aren't a scam!

Crazy men send their bitcoins to any old twat on the forums. Say, someone with 5 posts, no reputation, no convincing explanation for their behavior, and no plan to use the bitcoins in any way, and no way to give a receipt for tax purposes.

Sane men question everything. Sane men trust, but verify. Sane men use historical events (thousands of identical scams on the forums) to judge the likely outcome of current events. Sane men don't send their bitcoins to any old twat on the forums, no matter who they say they are going to help.

I'll make this donations happen anyway.
It seems like here people won't do anything.

deadweasel

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Quote from: Thanksforhelp on June 11, 2013, 09:23:41 AM

I'm 24 and I just want to see some kids smiling you dumb!

If that's all you want, go volunteer at the local soup kitchen. Your time will be well rewarded.

You need to understand that your approach on this forum is completely wrong. Had you done any research at all you would understand that.

From the PM you sent me:
____________________________

Quote from: Thanksforhelp on June 11, 2013, 02:21:50 PM

You are crazy man!
Donations aren't a scam!

Crazy men send their bitcoins to any old twat on the forums. Say, someone with 5 posts, no reputation, no convincing explanation for their behavior, and no plan to use the bitcoins in any way, and no way to give a receipt for tax purposes.

Sane men question everything. Sane men trust, but verify. Sane men use historical events (thousands of identical scams on the forums) to judge the likely outcome of current events. Sane men don't send their bitcoins to any old twat on the forums, no matter who they say they are going to help.

Thanksforhelp

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I'm 24 and I just want to see some kids smiling you dumb!

deadweasel

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Quote from: Thanksforhelp on June 11, 2013, 09:16:10 AM

I understand what is happening here. People don't have trust, this is fair.

Let's make it like this:

I will post some pics/videos with a poor family that I saw.
I'll write here their needs, and then we can gather some funds. (Let's say 0.1 btc/user)

Now, the users who can help with this amount, just make a post here, so I can make a list.

You will be better off begging on the street and giving that money to local charities and food programs.

There is absolutely no reason you need bitcoins to begin your 'helping' organization.

Either the OP Is 8-14 years old and honestly wants to help someone, or he's a reincarnation of the many scammers here on the boards.

EITHER WAY THE MONEY WILL BE WASTED.

OP clearly has no idea how to even make the attempt at legitimacy.

Thanksforhelp

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I understand what is happening here. People don't have trust, this is fair.

Let's make it like this:

I will post some pics/videos with a poor family that I saw.
I'll write here their needs, and then we can gather some funds. (Let's say 0.1 btc/user)

Now, the users who can help with this amount, just make a post here, so I can make a list.

deadweasel

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Quote from: Thanksforhelp on June 11, 2013, 09:05:28 AM

Quote from: BadBear on June 11, 2013, 09:01:06 AM

Quote from: Thanksforhelp on June 11, 2013, 08:57:26 AM

Quote from: bitcoinchecker on June 11, 2013, 08:52:21 AM

It might not be a scam but the lack of information on the website is going to put a lot off people of donating.

I'm no expert but I would have thought that at the very least there should be some contact details, a little about the backgrounds and experience of the people involved.

As has been said, the charity sector is very competative and difficult to break into. But transparency is a must.

For sure, thanks for the support!
I thought we don't need a page full of lies, I want to make this simple!
I don't need to scam people with small amounts of bitcoins, but as I said, maybe together we can do something!

Why would it need to be lies?

I said we don't want to write 10 pages to convince you to donate. You are doing this because you can simply help.

You are doing this so you can simply profit off saying you are "helping". You have no evidence, no business plan, no charitable status, no reputation, no identity, so on and so forth.

SCAM

justusranvier

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I decided it was a scam before I ever clicked on the thread because of two things:

1) The username of the OP
2) The all-caps subject line.

Nothing I've seen here or on the linked web site gives me any reason to reconsider.

bitcoinchecker

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Why would it need to be lies?
[/quote] I said we don't want to write 10 pages to convince you to donate. You are doing this because you can simply help.

[/quote]

You don't have to write 10 pages of "lies" as you call it.

But you need a bit more than "send us some money so we can feed the poor" as noble as that cause might be.

Thanksforhelp

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Quote from: BadBear on June 11, 2013, 09:01:06 AM

Quote from: Thanksforhelp on June 11, 2013, 08:57:26 AM

Quote from: bitcoinchecker on June 11, 2013, 08:52:21 AM

It might not be a scam but the lack of information on the website is going to put a lot off people of donating.

I'm no expert but I would have thought that at the very least there should be some contact details, a little about the backgrounds and experience of the people involved.

As has been said, the charity sector is very competative and difficult to break into. But transparency is a must.

For sure, thanks for the support!
I thought we don't need a page full of lies, I want to make this simple!
I don't need to scam people with small amounts of bitcoins, but as I said, maybe together we can do something!

Why would it need to be lies?

I said we don't want to write 10 pages to convince you to donate. You are doing this because you can simply help.

BadBear

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Quote from: Thanksforhelp on June 11, 2013, 08:57:26 AM

Quote from: bitcoinchecker on June 11, 2013, 08:52:21 AM

It might not be a scam but the lack of information on the website is going to put a lot off people of donating.

I'm no expert but I would have thought that at the very least there should be some contact details, a little about the backgrounds and experience of the people involved.

As has been said, the charity sector is very competative and difficult to break into. But transparency is a must.

For sure, thanks for the support!
I thought we don't need a page full of lies, I want to make this simple!
I don't need to scam people with small amounts of bitcoins, but as I said, maybe together we can do something!

Why would it need to be lies?

Thanksforhelp

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Quote from: bitcoinchecker on June 11, 2013, 08:52:21 AM

It might not be a scam but the lack of information on the website is going to put a lot off people of donating.

I'm no expert but I would have thought that at the very least there should be some contact details, a little about the backgrounds and experience of the people involved.

As has been said, the charity sector is very competative and difficult to break into. But transparency is a must.

For sure, thanks for the support!
I thought we don't need a page full of lies, I want to make this simple!
I don't need to scam people with small amounts of bitcoins, but as I said, maybe together we can do something!

bitcoinchecker

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It might not be a scam but the lack of information on the website is going to put a lot of people off donating.

I'm no expert but I would have thought that at the very least there should be some contact details, a little about the backgrounds and experience of the people involved.

As has been said, the charity sector is very competative and difficult to break into. But transparency is a must.

Thanksforhelp

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Quote from: NewLiberty on June 11, 2013, 08:34:55 AM

It may not seem like it, but folks are trying to help you do what you are hoping better than you are already.
Charitable giving is a competitive marketplace. There are many choices. You must know that already.
To be the best choice for someone's giving, listen to those who seem critical and understand what they are explaining.
If you look at the number of views, for your post, and how many have commented, and then at your wallet, you might see that some folks just look and move on silently.
Those that took the time to tell you what you can improve are the ones that are doing you the favor of telling you why the others left without donating to your cause.
Do not let your kind heart be hardened by the criticisms.
The children you are helping are depending on you to not get discouraged. Don't let them suffer by taking offense. Do the hard work needed to help them.
Good luck in your effort to do something meaningful for yourself and others.

You're absolutely right, but I see that the users are pretty crazy here.

NewLiberty

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It may not seem like it, but folks are trying to help you do what you are hoping better than you are already.
Charitable giving is a competitive marketplace. There are many choices. You must know that already.
To be the best choice for someone's giving, listen to those who seem critical and understand what they are explaining.
If you look at the number of views, for your post, and how many have commented, and then at your wallet, you might see that some folks just look and move on silently.
Those that took the time to tell you what you can improve are the ones that are doing you the favor of telling you why the others left without donating to your cause.
Do not let your kind heart be hardened by the criticisms.
The children you are helping are depending on you to not get discouraged. Don't let them suffer by taking offense. Do the hard work needed to help them.
Good luck in your effort to do something meaningful for yourself and others.

Thanksforhelp

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Quote from: deadweasel on June 11, 2013, 08:06:18 AM

Quote from: worldinacoin on June 11, 2013, 08:03:08 AM

I am not thinking it is a scam, just that I feel more details need to be given. We are in a forum where there are people of all kinds and types. Definitely there are some bad hats among us. It is better for everyone to be careful with their Bitcoins or fiat money. Of course, charity is a good cause, thats why I am urging you to release more details or others may think it is just a scam and I can't blame them.

This is a scam. If it was not a scam, there would be more than 5 minutes worth of effort put into the idea.

This is a scam. If it was not a scam, they would already be helping people with an established organization.

This is a scam. If it was not a scam, OP would have more than 5 posts.

This is a scam. If it was not a scam, evidence of the 'charity' would be presented obviously and helpfully at the very start.

This is a scam.

You are crazy!

This is a scam. If it was not a scam, there would be more than 5 minutes worth of effort put into the idea.
This is a simple thing, people donate, we give the money for people needs.

This is a scam. If it was not a scam, they would already be helping people with an established organization.
Organization?If you want, donate to organizations. No one forces you to donate. I've said "WE". Me and 4 friends of mine started this project.
This is a scam. If it was not a scam, OP would have more than 5 posts.
I created this account recently because I heard that it is the most used forum for Bitcoins.

This is a scam. If it was not a scam, evidence of the 'charity' would be presented obviously and helpfully at the very start.
Are you deaf? Without money we can't do anything.[size]

This is very simple, if you donate, you don't have to risk your money like in a loan.[.size]

Bowjob

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Quote from: Thanksforhelp on June 11, 2013, 08:10:50 AM

Quote from: worldinacoin on June 11, 2013, 07:59:46 AM

Maybe you can give us more details, your web site doesn't say anything at all, I doubt anyone will be comfortable donating with specific details.

Sure my friend!
First of all, this is a project in development.
It's simple, we want to start looking and help these families with money, food and clothes. Each case will be filmed and posted on the site. We can not do anything without money but we do not need billions to start this project. We will count the donations and post them here (daily update). When we gather some funds, we can start the field work.

Do you accept Freicoins?

Thanksforhelp

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Quote from: worldinacoin on June 11, 2013, 07:59:46 AM

Maybe you can give us more details, your web site doesn't say anything at all, I doubt anyone will be comfortable donating with specific details.

Sure my friend!
First of all, this is a project in development.
It's simple, we want to start looking and help these families with money, food and clothes. Each case will be filmed and posted on the site. We can not do anything without money but we do not need billions to start this project. We will count the donations and post them here (daily update). When we gather some funds, we can start the field work.

Bowjob

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Quote from: deadweasel on June 11, 2013, 08:06:18 AM

Quote from: worldinacoin on June 11, 2013, 08:03:08 AM

I am not thinking it is a scam, just that I feel more details need to be given. We are in a forum where there are people of all kinds and types. Definitely there are some bad hats among us. It is better for everyone to be careful with their Bitcoins or fiat money. Of course, charity is a good cause, thats why I am urging you to release more details or others may think it is just a scam and I can't blame them.

This is a scam. If it was not a scam, there would be more than 5 minutes worth of effort put into the idea.

This is a scam. If it was not a scam, they would already be helping people with an established organization.

This is a scam. If it was not a scam, OP would have more than 5 posts.

This is a scam. If it was not a scam, evidence of the 'charity' would be presented obviously and helpfully at the very start.

This is a scam.

but.. but.. I sent my coins already! :/

deadweasel

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Quote from: worldinacoin on June 11, 2013, 08:03:08 AM

I am not thinking it is a scam, just that I feel more details need to be given. We are in a forum where there are people of all kinds and types. Definitely there are some bad hats among us. It is better for everyone to be careful with their Bitcoins or fiat money. Of course, charity is a good cause, thats why I am urging you to release more details or others may think it is just a scam and I can't blame them.

This is a scam. If it was not a scam, there would be more than 5 minutes worth of effort put into the idea.

This is a scam. If it was not a scam, they would already be helping people with an established organization.

This is a scam. If it was not a scam, OP would have more than 5 posts.

This is a scam. If it was not a scam, evidence of the 'charity' would be presented obviously and helpfully at the very start.

This is a scam.

worldinacoin

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I am not thinking it is a scam, just that I feel more details need to be given. We are in a forum where there are people of all kinds and types. Definitely there are some bad hats among us. It is better for everyone to be careful with their Bitcoins or fiat money. Of course, charity is a good cause, thats why I am urging you to release more details or others may think it is just a scam and I can't blame them.

Bowjob

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Quote from: Thanksforhelp on June 11, 2013, 08:00:31 AM

Quote from: ?? on ??

scam

Why do you think this is a scam? Not everyone who posts is a scammer.
Just calm down my friend.

Okay, I realized. I will send 10 BTC when I get home.. ^^

Thanksforhelp

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Quote from: ?? on ??

scam

Why do you think this is a scam? Not everyone who posts is a scammer.
Just calm down my friend.

Bowjob

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Ok, I'll send 10 BTC for children when I get home..

worldinacoin

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Maybe you can give us more details, your web site doesn't say anything at all, I doubt anyone will be comfortable donating with specific details.

Thanksforhelp

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Quote from: worldinacoin on June 11, 2013, 07:51:42 AM

It is good to see this, but can there be more transparency on who you are helping, how much is being collected and distributed?

All the bitcoins will be in sight, we will start helping poor children and their families by buying them what they need.

worldinacoin

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It is good to see this, but can there be more transparency on who you are helping, how much is being collected and distributed?

Thanksforhelp

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Let's see how many good hearted people are here

Will update here the cases and how much we gather
(Official topic of this donations site)

http://thanksforhelp.weebly.com/

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