We might just tag manager and their official account if any. But it will no change anything. They will list their token on exchange and will sold that bounty token. They really don't care about hunters after completed bounty campaign since they got everything what they need from here.
You're right, maybe we have the power and can give a red flag to fraudsters in this forum but outside we can't do anything.. many cases are the same as this, they reduce payments or do not pay at all bounty hunters but still do listings on several exchanges and sell their coins/tokens. in the future, if there is a discourse to form a cryptocurrency watchdog that acts as a security for crypto (like the police) then I am one of the most supportive. 
Topic: Tokenpay Scammed $350,000 bounty payment.. (Read 639 times)
Honestly we can't do anything for spam hunters. OP isn't bounty participants but he would open thread. Fortunately bounty spammer even forget about Tokenpay. Why they don't want to sound against scammers? We have no way to force them anymore because they already left this forum. We might just tag manager and their official account if any. But it will no change anything. They will list their token on exchange and will sold that bounty token. They really don't care about hunters after completed bounty campaign since they got everything what they need from here.
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about the user's wallets. that's also a false allegation. there was many fake entries. but those were not mine. and I've disqualified as much I could Identify as fake. and there was a very strict wallet verification rule. which was impossible to pass by those who stole others data to enroll.
Then it is your failure. If you can't catch fake entries then you are the worst manager. I have see your tokenpay ann thread. All screenshots indicate that, you are worried about the referral commission more then bounty payment.
The tokenpay bounty ended years ago. But Bounty Hunter did not receive their payment still now.
The problem is, bounty hunters will not get anything from them, even in the future.Since you shared jamalaezaz's side, I'd share Tokenpay's side too. This was posted on Telegram:
BAO 🚀✔️, [06.05.18 09:33]
because 70-80% of the address entry by Jamal did not match the people that submitted the address (we checked their profile, some dont have it, some have it but not match)
because 70-80% of the address entry by Jamal did not match the people that submitted the address (we checked their profile, some dont have it, some have it but not match)
Quote from: https://t.me/TokenPay/595325
BAO 🚀✔️, [06.05.18 09:35]
No, we cancel it since Jamal scam, we do not know who did what and what address is legitimate since they're all mismatch.
No, we cancel it since Jamal scam, we do not know who did what and what address is legitimate since they're all mismatch.
Quote from: https://t.me/TokenPay/595327
BAO 🚀✔️, [06.05.18 09:36]
examplwe can pay 100% according to that list and 80% of the participant will never get the coins since it will go to some random address (probably jamals and hsi crew)
examplwe can pay 100% according to that list and 80% of the participant will never get the coins since it will go to some random address (probably jamals and hsi crew)
There have been a lot of bounty issues in the past, campaigns managed by jamalaezaz. Considering that, I don't think it's a good idea to still join any of his campaigns.
(PS: I'm not in any way connected to jamalaezaz, Tokenpay, and Tokenpay Bounty program.)
about the user's wallets. that's also a false allegation. there was many fake entries. but those were not mine. and I've disqualified as much I could Identify as fake. and there was a very strict wallet verification rule. which was impossible to pass by those who stole others data to enroll.
regarding the issues about my past bounties. they were already there and they were aware of those issues. but they still hired me to manage their bounty. so it's their fault not mine.
It would be best to use the price from their bounty OP:
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TOTAL BOUNTY POOL = 100,000 TPAY (TOKENPAY) COINS
Each TPAY coin will be sold to the public at the equivalent of US$3.50. This means the total value of the Bounty Pool is US$350,000
Each TPAY coin will be sold to the public at the equivalent of US$3.50. This means the total value of the Bounty Pool is US$350,000
Update. I wrote with jamalaezaz's management fee. Which is jamalaezaz wrote on the ann thread. Thanks for the information.
This has been discussed so many times before. You can check there ANN thread which is modified and contains all the scam details.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-tokenpay-scammed-1-million-from-bounty-and-referral-program-2400499
The point is that the token pay team least care about the bounty hunters as they are progressing well on their project and really does not matter if such threads keep coming up.
It would be best to use the price from their bounty OP:
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TOTAL BOUNTY POOL = 100,000 TPAY (TOKENPAY) COINS
Each TPAY coin will be sold to the public at the equivalent of US$3.50. This means the total value of the Bounty Pool is US$350,000
Each TPAY coin will be sold to the public at the equivalent of US$3.50. This means the total value of the Bounty Pool is US$350,000
Update. I wrote with jamalaezaz's management fee. Which is jamalaezaz wrote on the ann thread. Thanks for the information.
It would be best to use the price from their bounty OP:
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TOTAL BOUNTY POOL = 100,000 TPAY (TOKENPAY) COINS
Each TPAY coin will be sold to the public at the equivalent of US$3.50. This means the total value of the Bounty Pool is US$350,000
Each TPAY coin will be sold to the public at the equivalent of US$3.50. This means the total value of the Bounty Pool is US$350,000
Is it fair to say that they scammed 770k when the value of those 110k tokens are roughly 2 BTC now? You can say they scammed the 110k tokens yes, but assigning a USD value (of their peak price) seems wrong.
We are not thinking about the value of it now. They did not give the bounty payment they were supposed to pay. Not worth seeing now, because the team is a scammer. The tokenpay price were even higher when they scammed. I think the $770k scam is right.
TPAY is a real scam and they still try to make some more money very sad to see LTC team up with this fake team this project will dead soon so beware and don't invest in this fraud project I lost lots of my money in this scam since started in 2017 dec
Their team scammer proved, when they did not pay the bounty payment. You should instead focus on the coin number - 110k was scammed. At best, you could use the average exchange price during the first week of trading or the original "sold-for" ICO price (if any).
Is it fair to say that they scammed 770k when the value of those 110k tokens are roughly 2 BTC now? You can say they scammed the 110k tokens yes, but assigning a USD value (of their peak price) seems wrong.
We are not thinking about the value of it now. They did not give the bounty payment they were supposed to pay. Not worth seeing now, because the team is a scammer. The tokenpay price were even higher when they scammed. I think the $770k scam is right.
TPAY is a real scam and they still try to make some more money very sad to see LTC team up with this fake team this project will dead soon so beware and don't invest in this fraud project I lost lots of my money in this scam since started in 2017 dec
Their team scammer proved, when they did not pay the bounty payment.
TPAY is a real scam and they still try to make some more money very sad to see LTC team up with this fake team this project will dead soon so beware and don't invest in this fraud project I lost lots of my money in this scam since started in 2017 dec
Is it fair to say that they scammed 770k when the value of those 110k tokens are roughly 2 BTC now? You can say they scammedI the 110k tokens yes, but assigning a USD value (of their peak price) seems wrong.
Is it any surprise that the ICO listing price is neither stagnant nor rising, but rather is always dumped?For TPAY or in general? Some ICO's have had decent returns, but I would guess that if you had bought every single ICO (apart from the obvious scams) you'd be in the red.
Is it fair to say that they scammed 770k when the value of those 110k tokens are roughly 2 BTC now? You can say they scammedI the 110k tokens yes, but assigning a USD value (of their peak price) seems wrong.
Is it any surprise that the ICO listing price is neither stagnant nor rising, but rather is always dumped?
Is it fair to say that they scammed 770k when the value of those 110k tokens are roughly 2 BTC now? You can say they scammed the 110k tokens yes, but assigning a USD value (of their peak price) seems wrong.
What is the name of the company that operates www.tokenpay.com?
Tokenpay has launched an exchange called https://www.efin.com/
efin.com publishes a bunch of photos and names of participants, for what are the victims waiting?Jamalaezaz reputation is very bad, many projects that have been dealt with end badly. I don't trust him anymore. I don't know how he chose the ICO project, did he not filter first!!
After this, I don't know if Jamalaezaz will be hired as bounty manager and if he manages one I don't know if he can attract bounty hunters to work with him, this is very unfortunate for bounty hunters I almost participated on that campaign but I'm other good campaigns I support flag that will be created for the project if they have created one and posted here.Tokenpay are being traded on many exchange.
I thought this topic should be discussed again so I opened this thread. Because tokenpay is still in the market.
Tokenpay listing on Coinmarketcap too https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/tokenpay/I thought this topic should be discussed again so I opened this thread. Because tokenpay is still in the market.
Jamalaezaz is no longer trusted as a Bounty Manager because he has cheated and made himself lucky, if only Jamalaezaz manages the bounty then the hunters will no longer believe, and now Jamalaezaz is a bounty hunter to other campaigns.
I was not participate to the tokenpay bounty. I opened this thread to remind the tokenpay team that they are scammer. Tokenpay are listed on many exchange. Does exchanges not see tokenpay Bitcointalk ann thread before listing ?
If you are ready to shell out some money then any exchange will list your coins, you can even create your own coin and pay them and these exchanges will be glad to accept and list them and jamalaezaz is already tagged as a scammer here and i am not sure why people are still joining his campaigns and how come these projects are giving him the mantle to promote them says it all.After this, I don't know if Jamalaezaz will be hired as bounty manager and if he manages one I don't know if he can attract bounty hunters to work with him,
People are still joining his campaigns even having a flag, if he does not get any users to promote the project he will come up with other accounts to promote those. I invested in some of the projects these scammers posted and lost some money and hence i am against all these projects. 
Jamalaezaz reputation is very bad, many projects that have been dealt with end badly. I don't trust him anymore. I don't know how he chose the ICO project, did he not filter first!!
After this, I don't know if Jamalaezaz will be hired as bounty manager and if he manages one I don't know if he can attract bounty hunters to work with him, this is very unfortunate for bounty hunters I almost participated on that campaign but I'm other good campaigns I support flag that will be created for the project if they have created one and posted here. Tokenpay are being traded on many exchange.
I thought this topic should be discussed again so I opened this thread. Because tokenpay is still in the market.
Tokenpay listing on Coinmarketcap too https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/tokenpay/I thought this topic should be discussed again so I opened this thread. Because tokenpay is still in the market.
Really sucks when such projects waste people's time. The least thing they would do is at least pay them the worthless tokens. It shows us how people are so greedy and dishonest in the planet... These are the people making cryptospace look so ugly.
I took time to check out their token charts and guess what?
It's taking a hit and going nowhere anyway
A token that was about 8 USD about a year and a half ago is now 0.14 USD. Total 24 hour volume is just 5 BTC across all the exchanges it trades
Typical shitcoin.
I took time to check out their token charts and guess what?
It's taking a hit and going nowhere anyway
A token that was about 8 USD about a year and a half ago is now 0.14 USD. Total 24 hour volume is just 5 BTC across all the exchanges it trades
Typical shitcoin.
What is weird in all this Tokenpay situation is the fact that
Litecoin Foundation is partnered with them, as well as BankAG and other projects.
I think that I also saw some interviews with them and Charlie Lee...
Litecoin Foundation is partnered with them, as well as BankAG and other projects.
I think that I also saw some interviews with them and Charlie Lee...
Did you participate in their campaign? If so you can open a scammer flag.
I was not participate to the tokenpay bounty. I opened this thread to remind the tokenpay team that they are scammer. Tokenpay are listed on many exchange. Does exchanges not see tokenpay Bitcointalk ann thread before listing ?
Most exchanges are only interested in listing fees.
Did you participate in their campaign? If so you can open a scammer flag.
I was not participate to the tokenpay bounty. I opened this thread to remind the tokenpay team that they are scammer. Tokenpay are listed on many exchange. Does exchanges not see tokenpay Bitcointalk ann thread before listing ?
They have this new exchange called eFin and it is connected with Tokenpay.
Can you also examine it and include more information in this topic?
Thank you
Can you also examine it and include more information in this topic?
Thank you
Added.
Tokenpay has launched an exchange called https://www.efin.com/
They have this new exchange called eFin and it is connected with Tokenpay.
Can you also examine it and include more information in this topic?
Thank you
Can you also examine it and include more information in this topic?
Thank you
The tokenpay bounty ended years ago. But Bounty Hunter did not receive their payment still now.
The problem is, bounty hunters will not get anything from them, even in the future.Since you shared jamalaezaz's side, I'd share Tokenpay's side too. This was posted on Telegram:
BAO 🚀✔️, [06.05.18 09:33]
because 70-80% of the address entry by Jamal did not match the people that submitted the address (we checked their profile, some dont have it, some have it but not match)
because 70-80% of the address entry by Jamal did not match the people that submitted the address (we checked their profile, some dont have it, some have it but not match)
Quote from: https://t.me/TokenPay/595325
BAO 🚀✔️, [06.05.18 09:35]
No, we cancel it since Jamal scam, we do not know who did what and what address is legitimate since they're all mismatch.
No, we cancel it since Jamal scam, we do not know who did what and what address is legitimate since they're all mismatch.
Quote from: https://t.me/TokenPay/595327
BAO 🚀✔️, [06.05.18 09:36]
examplwe can pay 100% according to that list and 80% of the participant will never get the coins since it will go to some random address (probably jamals and hsi crew)
examplwe can pay 100% according to that list and 80% of the participant will never get the coins since it will go to some random address (probably jamals and hsi crew)
There have been a lot of bounty issues in the past, campaigns managed by jamalaezaz. Considering that, I don't think it's a good idea to still join any of his campaigns.
(PS: I'm not in any way connected to jamalaezaz, Tokenpay, and Tokenpay Bounty program.)
Jamalaezaz reputation is very bad, many projects that have been dealt with end badly. I don't trust him anymore. I don't know how he chose the ICO project, did he not filter first!!
Tokenpay are being traded on many exchange.
I thought this topic should be discussed again so I opened this thread. Because tokenpay is still in the market.
Tokenpay listing on Coinmarketcap too https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/tokenpay/ I thought this topic should be discussed again so I opened this thread. Because tokenpay is still in the market.
Did you participate in their campaign? If so you can open a scammer flag.
Website:- https://www.tokenpay.com
Ann Thread:- https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-tokenpay-scammed-1-million-from-bounty-and-referral-program-2400499
Bounty Thread:- https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bounty-tokenpay-the-worlds-most-secure-coin-earn-tpay-for-your-support-2403706
Bounty Manager:- jamalaezaz
Archive Ann:- http://archive.is/GkypR
Archive Bounty:- http://archive.is/HOqix
Tokenpay has launched an exchange called https://www.efin.com/
Coinmarketcap:- https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/tokenpay/
The tokenpay bounty ended years ago. But Bounty Hunter did not receive their payment still now. Bounty payment amounts 100,000 Tpay Coins = $350,000.
jamalaezaz has made the ann thread Scam Accusation to save himself ( my opinion) That accusation indicates that jamalaezaz is more busy with his referral commission then bounty payments. There is no exact information on who and how many people are involved in this bounty scam. I think jamalaezaz's extra greed has caused this situation.
More shocking information is that jamalaezaz have locked up Ann and Bounty both threads. People are not able to give their opinion and get no update about tokenpay scam.
Why did jamalaezaz lock the threads? What was the problem with public opinion?
Evidence from jamalaezaz's side.
Tokenpay are being traded on many exchange.
Exchange list
I thought this topic should be discussed again so I opened this thread. Because tokenpay is still in the market.
Ann Thread:- https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-tokenpay-scammed-1-million-from-bounty-and-referral-program-2400499
Bounty Thread:- https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bounty-tokenpay-the-worlds-most-secure-coin-earn-tpay-for-your-support-2403706
Bounty Manager:- jamalaezaz
Archive Ann:- http://archive.is/GkypR
Archive Bounty:- http://archive.is/HOqix
Tokenpay has launched an exchange called https://www.efin.com/
Coinmarketcap:- https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/tokenpay/
The tokenpay bounty ended years ago. But Bounty Hunter did not receive their payment still now. Bounty payment amounts 100,000 Tpay Coins = $350,000.
jamalaezaz has made the ann thread Scam Accusation to save himself ( my opinion) That accusation indicates that jamalaezaz is more busy with his referral commission then bounty payments. There is no exact information on who and how many people are involved in this bounty scam. I think jamalaezaz's extra greed has caused this situation.
More shocking information is that jamalaezaz have locked up Ann and Bounty both threads. People are not able to give their opinion and get no update about tokenpay scam.
Why did jamalaezaz lock the threads? What was the problem with public opinion?
Evidence from jamalaezaz's side.
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Excuse 1: Participants Wallets
Tpay is a coin on it's own Blokchain. it is not an ERC or top of any other Blockchain Token. so before ICO start and Bounty Start time there was not any Wallet Available/Launched, We clearly asked Derek and Johny About this and they agreed and asked us to collect every users email addresses at the time of joining so they could pay their payments directly to their wallets at the end of bounty program. but at the end of Bounty program they suddenly changed their minds and asked me for wallet addresses.. I told them that the wallets was not available at the time of members joining bounty program and the agreement was to make their payments in their ICO dashboard. but they didn't listen to that and put me again to collect everyone wallets.
if they wanted they could easily deposit everyone's Bounty payment to each participants ICO dashboard as initial agreement. but they started this Wallet Collection bullshit. which cause a long till (even till today still all participants not submitted their wallets)
Excuse 2: Re-auditing / Double checking Bounty Participants
when Bounty program ended and we entered in distribution phase. Derek changed his mind to accept the spreadsheet My team have prepared and decided to reject my checking and counting and do another checking and counting by himself. he delayed that re-audit for 2 months and then at the end he put Danny on the re-audit work after two month of time. lots of actives which were done by bounty participants. were removed from their places. (medium, steemit, tweets, shares etc) and lots of them got rejected again.
Excuse 3: Stake System
When the Campaign Started, Johny and Derek Chose to Go with Stake system.. Everyone know about Stake system can confirm how it works.. in Stake system the bounty allocation will be fixed to a specific amount and then that specific amount divided among all participants. no matter if the participants are 100 or 10,000 at the end.. even if a person get disqualified at some point, that participants stakes and tokens will be divided into other participants. this is how stake system bounty program work which was chosen by Johny and Derek them selves. for Blog and media bounty I advised them to go for a fixed pay rate system. but they refused that advise and insist me to continue with stake system..
then when the bounty program finished Derek started a baseless re-audit thing which ended up with a lot of disqualification (mentioned above).. but they decided to not pay the tokens of disqualified users into the rest of qualified users (according to the terms o stakes system), they said everyone will get whatever they've got in my first calculation. (they rejected my calculations and decided to run a re-audit but the allocations I've assigned to each participates they did not agree to change that) I tried a lot to explain them that they cannot do that. but they did not listen that . so I had to remove them from the bounty spreadsheets and locked the sheets so they do not make any copy for that.. after that they totally opened up and clearly said they'll not pay anything to me and bounty participants..
According to them after locking the spreadsheets, I've violated the initial Bounty management agreement. while they've violated the agreement almost 6 times till that time.. (I'll show everything in the screenshot evidence)
Tpay is a coin on it's own Blokchain. it is not an ERC or top of any other Blockchain Token. so before ICO start and Bounty Start time there was not any Wallet Available/Launched, We clearly asked Derek and Johny About this and they agreed and asked us to collect every users email addresses at the time of joining so they could pay their payments directly to their wallets at the end of bounty program. but at the end of Bounty program they suddenly changed their minds and asked me for wallet addresses.. I told them that the wallets was not available at the time of members joining bounty program and the agreement was to make their payments in their ICO dashboard. but they didn't listen to that and put me again to collect everyone wallets.
if they wanted they could easily deposit everyone's Bounty payment to each participants ICO dashboard as initial agreement. but they started this Wallet Collection bullshit. which cause a long till (even till today still all participants not submitted their wallets)
Excuse 2: Re-auditing / Double checking Bounty Participants
when Bounty program ended and we entered in distribution phase. Derek changed his mind to accept the spreadsheet My team have prepared and decided to reject my checking and counting and do another checking and counting by himself. he delayed that re-audit for 2 months and then at the end he put Danny on the re-audit work after two month of time. lots of actives which were done by bounty participants. were removed from their places. (medium, steemit, tweets, shares etc) and lots of them got rejected again.
Excuse 3: Stake System
When the Campaign Started, Johny and Derek Chose to Go with Stake system.. Everyone know about Stake system can confirm how it works.. in Stake system the bounty allocation will be fixed to a specific amount and then that specific amount divided among all participants. no matter if the participants are 100 or 10,000 at the end.. even if a person get disqualified at some point, that participants stakes and tokens will be divided into other participants. this is how stake system bounty program work which was chosen by Johny and Derek them selves. for Blog and media bounty I advised them to go for a fixed pay rate system. but they refused that advise and insist me to continue with stake system..
then when the bounty program finished Derek started a baseless re-audit thing which ended up with a lot of disqualification (mentioned above).. but they decided to not pay the tokens of disqualified users into the rest of qualified users (according to the terms o stakes system), they said everyone will get whatever they've got in my first calculation. (they rejected my calculations and decided to run a re-audit but the allocations I've assigned to each participates they did not agree to change that) I tried a lot to explain them that they cannot do that. but they did not listen that . so I had to remove them from the bounty spreadsheets and locked the sheets so they do not make any copy for that.. after that they totally opened up and clearly said they'll not pay anything to me and bounty participants..
According to them after locking the spreadsheets, I've violated the initial Bounty management agreement. while they've violated the agreement almost 6 times till that time.. (I'll show everything in the screenshot evidence)
Tokenpay are being traded on many exchange.
Exchange list
I thought this topic should be discussed again so I opened this thread. Because tokenpay is still in the market.
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