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Quote from: Sithara007 on January 02, 2017, 12:34:20 AM

Quote from: coolcoinz on January 01, 2017, 03:05:50 PM

What a pile of steaming crap. They also did quite a bit to start the war. Didn't they invade Poland along with the Germans? When they were the invaders it was all good, but when their allies, the Nazis, turned against them they suddenly became the martyrs and the saviors of Europe Cheesy

They deserved Ukraine? I don't know where you are from, but If your country was now attacked by one neighbor and liberated with the help of another you wouldn't just give them everything and become a part of their country to show appreciation.
And it's important to say Europe wasn't liberated by the Russians, but with their help. Do you think people of every occupied country just stood and watched?

That can be said about the Americans as well. They refused to participate in the war, until it became clear that the Axis powers are about to lose. So in 1945 they began their participation, in order to receive their share of the war loot.

Immediately obvious that you were brought up in the false Russian propaganda. If you mean the opening of a second front, it was in 1944, not in 1945. Just before that, the Americans kept Japan from attacking Russia. And that Russia did without lend lease?

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Quote from: Gibbar on December 28, 2016, 05:35:05 PM

For all the talk of bravery, people of the u.s. are some of the biggest most pathetic cowards. Actions speak louder than words. Stupid.

Wow! You're strong Cheesy

i like it

but really united states is not really that pathetic and cowardly they help so many people in other countries they fight for their nation and they even die for their nation so why? call them pathetic? i want to know so that i would believe you and support you with that and i think of it that trump is now president of the U.S well its a little bit cowardly i don't really believe trump is a strong leader or president unlike putin in russia but still i can't judge them really and trump's power is money so money can't really but happiness and money can't really make you rule the world or make you stronger so today U.S is not really that pathetic but trump i don't think his fit to be a president and i think his a coward >.< i will judge but i didn't mean it just an opinion

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Quote from: valta4065 on January 02, 2017, 11:34:32 AM

But I don't really see the point in accusing USA of cowardice. They're engaged in the most conflicts in the world. They're dumb, expansionist, arrogant and a plague to this world, but they're not cowards!

The United States is a country being run by the big corporations. They engage in so many wars, so that the corporations (especially those in the oil and gas, defense, and banking sectors) can profit out of it.

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Quote from: Gibbar on December 28, 2016, 05:35:05 PM

For all the talk of bravery, people of the u.s. are some of the biggest most pathetic cowards. Actions speak louder than words.

What actions are you talking about? You mean like when they saved the world from tyranny in 1945?

Who saved who in 1945? please tell, thanks.

USSR I'd say Tongue

But I don't really see the point in accusing USA of cowardice. They're engaged in the most conflicts in the world. They're dumb, expansionist, arrogant and a plague to this world, but they're not cowards!

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The only thing that Western World makes, that can be named "coward actions" is bombing Pakistan and Afghanistan using the drones with remoted control. But if the aim is terrorist, may be it is rightly.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on January 02, 2017, 12:34:20 AM

Quote from: coolcoinz on January 01, 2017, 03:05:50 PM

What a pile of steaming crap. They also did quite a bit to start the war. Didn't they invade Poland along with the Germans? When they were the invaders it was all good, but when their allies, the Nazis, turned against them they suddenly became the martyrs and the saviors of Europe Cheesy

They deserved Ukraine? I don't know where you are from, but If your country was now attacked by one neighbor and liberated with the help of another you wouldn't just give them everything and become a part of their country to show appreciation.
And it's important to say Europe wasn't liberated by the Russians, but with their help. Do you think people of every occupied country just stood and watched?

That can be said about the Americans as well. They refused to participate in the war, until it became clear that the Axis powers are about to lose. So in 1945 they began their participation, in order to receive their share of the war loot.

It was done by Government that way, so that while the American men were gone, government could change itself into a corrupt civil government, without anybody to stop them. They can still be stopped, but the way is more difficult.

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Quote from: coolcoinz on January 01, 2017, 03:05:50 PM

What a pile of steaming crap. They also did quite a bit to start the war. Didn't they invade Poland along with the Germans? When they were the invaders it was all good, but when their allies, the Nazis, turned against them they suddenly became the martyrs and the saviors of Europe Cheesy

They deserved Ukraine? I don't know where you are from, but If your country was now attacked by one neighbor and liberated with the help of another you wouldn't just give them everything and become a part of their country to show appreciation.
And it's important to say Europe wasn't liberated by the Russians, but with their help. Do you think people of every occupied country just stood and watched?

That can be said about the Americans as well. They refused to participate in the war, until it became clear that the Axis powers are about to lose. So in 1945 they began their participation, in order to receive their share of the war loot.

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Quote from: Gyro on December 30, 2016, 12:26:17 PM

Stalin was given parts of EU yes. Soviets did after all do quite a bit to win the war. Their losses were the most of any country I think they deserved Ukraine and parts of the EU. What they did with it after was horrible. Stalin was worse than Hitler in that case.

If The Soviets didn't get anything they would have been butthurt and started more conflicts to take what they thought they deserved. Making a deal with them at the time was the best possible choice for peace.

What a pile of steaming crap. They also did quite a bit to start the war. Didn't they invade Poland along with the Germans? When they were the invaders it was all good, but when their allies, the Nazis, turned against them they suddenly became the martyrs and the saviors of Europe Cheesy

They deserved Ukraine? I don't know where you are from, but If your country was now attacked by one neighbor and liberated with the help of another you wouldn't just give them everything and become a part of their country to show appreciation.
And it's important to say Europe wasn't liberated by the Russians, but with their help. Do you think people of every occupied country just stood and watched?

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Quote from: BADecker on December 30, 2016, 10:35:04 AM

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Quote from: Gyro on December 28, 2016, 05:39:07 PM

Quote from: Gibbar on December 28, 2016, 05:35:05 PM

For all the talk of bravery, people of the u.s. are some of the biggest most pathetic cowards. Actions speak louder than words.

What actions are you talking about? You mean like when they saved the world from tyranny in 1945?

Please, no one did nothing for free. Every country had their own interests. You "sold" after war half Europe to please Stalin (Yalta Conference), so your actions did not end well for everyone.

This whole thread is pointless, there are no good or bad country.

Yes, this thread is pointless. After all, nobody in the U.S. is trying to silence anybody. Freedom of speech is one of the most important things in the U.S. It's in the 1st amendment... top of the freedoms.

Cool

EDIT: Btw, turn your radio off. It's way too noisy. Cheesy

Freedom of speech is the most important thing is most of the countries, wo know what countries denied that right from people. And let me tell you, America markets freedom but when you think about it, there's more of that freedom in other countries. I'll take Serbia for an example. Here's the freedom of speach as it should be. Also, (this is from an american guy from youtube that has lived in Serbia for the past few years) and by his words, you have more freedom in Serbia than you do in US. I'll try to find that video and post it here.

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Quote from: petsae on December 30, 2016, 10:20:38 AM

Quote from: Gyro on December 28, 2016, 05:39:07 PM

Quote from: Gibbar on December 28, 2016, 05:35:05 PM

For all the talk of bravery, people of the u.s. are some of the biggest most pathetic cowards. Actions speak louder than words.

What actions are you talking about? You mean like when they saved the world from tyranny in 1945?

Please, no one did nothing for free. Every country had their own interests. You "sold" after war half Europe to please Stalin (Yalta Conference), so your actions did not end well for everyone.

This whole thread is pointless, there are no good or bad country.

Stalin was given parts of EU yes. Soviets did after all do quite a bit to win the war. Their losses were the most of any country I think they deserved Ukraine and parts of the EU. What they did with it after was horrible. Stalin was worse than Hitler in that case.

If The Soviets didn't get anything they would have been butthurt and started more conflicts to take what they thought they deserved. Making a deal with them at the time was the best possible choice for peace.

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Quote from: petsae on December 30, 2016, 10:20:38 AM

Quote from: Gyro on December 28, 2016, 05:39:07 PM

Quote from: Gibbar on December 28, 2016, 05:35:05 PM

For all the talk of bravery, people of the u.s. are some of the biggest most pathetic cowards. Actions speak louder than words.

What actions are you talking about? You mean like when they saved the world from tyranny in 1945?

Please, no one did nothing for free. Every country had their own interests. You "sold" after war half Europe to please Stalin (Yalta Conference), so your actions did not end well for everyone.

This whole thread is pointless, there are no good or bad country.

Yes, this thread is pointless. After all, nobody in the U.S. is trying to silence anybody. Freedom of speech is one of the most important things in the U.S. It's in the 1st amendment... top of the freedoms.

Cool

EDIT: Btw, turn your radio off. It's way too noisy. Cheesy

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Quote from: Gyro on December 28, 2016, 05:39:07 PM

Quote from: Gibbar on December 28, 2016, 05:35:05 PM

For all the talk of bravery, people of the u.s. are some of the biggest most pathetic cowards. Actions speak louder than words.

What actions are you talking about? You mean like when they saved the world from tyranny in 1945?

Please, no one did nothing for free. Every country had their own interests. You "sold" after war half Europe to please Stalin (Yalta Conference), so your actions did not end well for everyone.

This whole thread is pointless, there are no good or bad country.

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I won't be silenced. A nation of psychopathic cowards.

What a sense of humour Roll Eyes

What nationality are you? I'm not from USA, I'm just curious.

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Quote from: Gibbar on December 28, 2016, 05:35:05 PM

For all the talk of bravery, people of the u.s. are some of the biggest most pathetic cowards. Actions speak louder than words.

What actions are you talking about? You mean like when they saved the world from tyranny in 1945?

Who saved who in 1945? please tell, thanks.

The US saved Europe and probably the rest of the world when they landed on Normandy beaches in 1944 and defeated the Nazis in 1945. If it wasn't for the US then the its more than likely that Russia would have defeated the Nazis and kept Europe for themselves. Remember what they did to the Ukrainians afterward. That would have happened to the rest of Europe. USA saved all those people. Plus their efforts before committing ground troops are notable. Without supplies and trucks the Nazis would have defeated Russia.

USA saved your asses and now you're all hating on it.

So you can say that the Americans saved Europe from Russia. But claiming that the Americans saved the Europe from the Nazis is completely false. The Nazis were defeated, as three-fourth of their army was decimated in the fighting with the USSR.

If the Nazis had put half their army into building V2 rockets, they would never have been defeated.

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Quote from: Gyro on December 29, 2016, 12:21:02 PM

Quote from: Racey on December 28, 2016, 06:26:31 PM

Quote from: Gyro on December 28, 2016, 05:39:07 PM

Quote from: Gibbar on December 28, 2016, 05:35:05 PM

For all the talk of bravery, people of the u.s. are some of the biggest most pathetic cowards. Actions speak louder than words.

What actions are you talking about? You mean like when they saved the world from tyranny in 1945?

Who saved who in 1945? please tell, thanks.

The US saved Europe and probably the rest of the world when they landed on Normandy beaches in 1944 and defeated the Nazis in 1945. If it wasn't for the US then the its more than likely that Russia would have defeated the Nazis and kept Europe for themselves. Remember what they did to the Ukrainians afterward. That would have happened to the rest of Europe. USA saved all those people. Plus their efforts before committing ground troops are notable. Without supplies and trucks the Nazis would have defeated Russia.

USA saved your asses and now you're all hating on it.

So you can say that the Americans saved Europe from Russia. But claiming that the Americans saved the Europe from the Nazis is completely false. The Nazis were defeated, as three-fourth of their army was decimated in the fighting with the USSR.

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For all the talk of bravery, people of the u.s. are some of the biggest most pathetic cowards. Actions speak louder than words.

What actions are you talking about? You mean like when they saved the world from tyranny in 1945?

Who saved who in 1945? please tell, thanks.

The US saved Europe and probably the rest of the world when they landed on Normandy beaches in 1944 and defeated the Nazis in 1945. If it wasn't for the US then the its more than likely that Russia would have defeated the Nazis and kept Europe for themselves. Remember what they did to the Ukrainians afterward. That would have happened to the rest of Europe. USA saved all those people. Plus their efforts before committing ground troops are notable. Without supplies and trucks the Nazis would have defeated Russia.

USA saved your asses and now you're all hating on it.

Yes, but. Where is the bravery in this? The U.S.A. should have been really brave, and let the rest of the world destroy itself. But we have such pity, and we try to help people all over the place.

We Americans need to stand bold and brave, and let the rest of the world kill itself off. Finally there will be peace. Then we can go in and RIGHTLY lay claim to the uninhabited lands worldwide.

Be brave, Americans! Your reward will be the world.

Cool

The bravery happened when the soldiers exited their landing craft and got creamed by fire from MG42s. Then they kept moving forward to take the beach, the bunkers and so on. Walking over the bodies of their dead and dying friends. They kept going. That's bravery.

The US also stayed out of WW2 for as long as possible. The Japan attack was known about, history tells us that the US missed the attack because of incompetence. I say they let it happen to get the US public on their side. They knew they had to go in, it was just a matter of convincing the civilians it was the right move. What better way..

Of course it was bravery. But it was bravery done for the cowardly reasons of trying to keep peace in warring Euurope, a place that has been warring almost as long as the Middle East. So, it was foolish bravery.

Normandy didn't really have anything to do with Japan. The whole thing was done by the one-worlders to try to take over the world. They realized that Europeans didn't have the strength to stop fighting among themselves. So they pushed America into the war.

Definitely Americans are brave and bold. But they are stupid to let their leaders control them into disastrous situations, like the lives lost at Normandy.

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Quote from: Gyro on December 28, 2016, 05:39:07 PM

Quote from: Gibbar on December 28, 2016, 05:35:05 PM

For all the talk of bravery, people of the u.s. are some of the biggest most pathetic cowards. Actions speak louder than words.

What actions are you talking about? You mean like when they saved the world from tyranny in 1945?

Who saved who in 1945? please tell, thanks.

The US saved Europe and probably the rest of the world when they landed on Normandy beaches in 1944 and defeated the Nazis in 1945. If it wasn't for the US then the its more than likely that Russia would have defeated the Nazis and kept Europe for themselves. Remember what they did to the Ukrainians afterward. That would have happened to the rest of Europe. USA saved all those people. Plus their efforts before committing ground troops are notable. Without supplies and trucks the Nazis would have defeated Russia.

USA saved your asses and now you're all hating on it.

Yes, but. Where is the bravery in this? The U.S.A. should have been really brave, and let the rest of the world destroy itself. But we have such pity, and we try to help people all over the place.

We Americans need to stand bold and brave, and let the rest of the world kill itself off. Finally there will be peace. Then we can go in and RIGHTLY lay claim to the uninhabited lands worldwide.

Be brave, Americans! Your reward will be the world.

Cool

The bravery happened when the soldiers exited their landing craft and got creamed by fire from MG42s. Then they kept moving forward to take the beach, the bunkers and so on. Walking over the bodies of their dead and dying friends. They kept going. That's bravery.

The US also stayed out of WW2 for as long as possible. The Japan attack was known about, history tells us that the US missed the attack because of incompetence. I say they let it happen to get the US public on their side. They knew they had to go in, it was just a matter of convincing the civilians it was the right move. What better way..

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Quote from: Gyro on December 29, 2016, 12:21:02 PM

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Quote from: Gyro on December 28, 2016, 05:39:07 PM

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For all the talk of bravery, people of the u.s. are some of the biggest most pathetic cowards. Actions speak louder than words.

What actions are you talking about? You mean like when they saved the world from tyranny in 1945?

Who saved who in 1945? please tell, thanks.

The US saved Europe and probably the rest of the world when they landed on Normandy beaches in 1944 and defeated the Nazis in 1945. If it wasn't for the US then the its more than likely that Russia would have defeated the Nazis and kept Europe for themselves. Remember what they did to the Ukrainians afterward. That would have happened to the rest of Europe. USA saved all those people. Plus their efforts before committing ground troops are notable. Without supplies and trucks the Nazis would have defeated Russia.

USA saved your asses and now you're all hating on it.

Yes, but. Where is the bravery in this? The U.S.A. should have been really brave, and let the rest of the world destroy itself. But we have such pity, and we try to help people all over the place.

We Americans need to stand bold and brave, and let the rest of the world kill itself off. Finally there will be peace. Then we can go in and RIGHTLY lay claim to the uninhabited lands worldwide.

Be brave, Americans! Your reward will be the world.

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Quote from: Racey on December 28, 2016, 06:26:31 PM

Quote from: Gyro on December 28, 2016, 05:39:07 PM

Quote from: Gibbar on December 28, 2016, 05:35:05 PM

For all the talk of bravery, people of the u.s. are some of the biggest most pathetic cowards. Actions speak louder than words.

What actions are you talking about? You mean like when they saved the world from tyranny in 1945?

Who saved who in 1945? please tell, thanks.

The US saved Europe and probably the rest of the world when they landed on Normandy beaches in 1944 and defeated the Nazis in 1945. If it wasn't for the US then the its more than likely that Russia would have defeated the Nazis and kept Europe for themselves. Remember what they did to the Ukrainians afterward. That would have happened to the rest of Europe. USA saved all those people. Plus their efforts before committing ground troops are notable. Without supplies and trucks the Nazis would have defeated Russia.

USA saved your asses and now you're all hating on it.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on December 29, 2016, 11:08:22 AM

Quote from: Gyro on December 28, 2016, 05:39:07 PM

Quote from: Gibbar on December 28, 2016, 05:35:05 PM

For all the talk of bravery, people of the u.s. are some of the biggest most pathetic cowards. Actions speak louder than words.

What actions are you talking about? You mean like when they saved the world from tyranny in 1945?

Are you smoking weed? Or high on meth?

Seems like you need some lessons in history. It was the Soviet Union and China, which saved the world from tyranny in 1945.

I'd say you're smoking weed, but you're most likely uneducated. If you want to give lessons in history first take some yourself. Here is a small list of events you should read about.
Start with The Battle of Leyte Gulf and Operation Overlord, both great battles, undoubtedly among the biggest events that turned the tables of WWII.

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The Americans did nothing, other than dropping nukes and killing civilians when Japan was about to surrender.

About to surrender? And who did they want to surrender to and why? The Americans did nothing, so who defeated the biggest navy in the world? China? Cheesy

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Quote from: Gyro on December 28, 2016, 05:39:07 PM

Quote from: Gibbar on December 28, 2016, 05:35:05 PM

For all the talk of bravery, people of the u.s. are some of the biggest most pathetic cowards. Actions speak louder than words.

What actions are you talking about? You mean like when they saved the world from tyranny in 1945?

Are you smoking weed? Or high on meth?

Seems like you need some lessons in history. It was the Soviet Union and China, which saved the world from tyranny in 1945. The Americans did nothing, other than dropping nukes and killing civilians when Japan was about to surrender.

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I am a bit confused on your post. Who are the cowards? are you referring to the whole United States of America, or to the government only.
We dont know why they are trying to make you silent and what is that issue you are referring to. Also, what makes them cowards. I am not going against your sentiments and opinions I am just curious and at the same time confused with your post.

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