Topic: TradeOgre SCAM? Admin supposedly stole 3 btc (screenshots included) (Read 342 times)

I dont know why are you calling out my name, I was just the one who found the post on reddit and posted it here to see what other people think, whether this is legit or not.
It looked like a scam to me, I wasnt aware of the threats or other things you posted here. Btw the original reddit posters account is deleted, the this new "mollie" is not OP.

Some things I pointed out still stand, no matter who is right in this case:
- tradeogre WHOIS is private, so no ID who is behind it
- no company or any legal entity behind it
- not even an email address
- legally TO doesnt exist

Basically storing your coins there is like lending your money to any anonymous person on the internet and hoping they dont steal it.
I never used TO, and never will, cause I only use decentralized exchanges. This is just a warning to all crypto owners, there are many scams going around,
and people dont realize they dont own the money they keep on centralized exchanges.

 As a legendary member with +10 trust factor, I feel it is my responsibility to call out this injustice towards Trade Ogre.

 For reference, I was part of the official Dash team for 3 years, and I am now part of the Graft team.

 Don't judge a book by its cover. Trade Ogre admin has shown nothing but the utmost professionalism and competence running that horrible looking exchange. But you know what, It is called Trade Ogre for a reason. It is not meant to be pretty, it is meant to work rock solid - which it does. I was also a bit put off at the beginning due to the anonymous nature of the people behind it, plus dealing primarily with cryptonote based coins also freaked me out. But in these past 8 month I have grown to respect TO far more that most other exchanges. NEVER leave funds you can't afford to loose on an exchange.
In - trade - out. No drama, any risk is mitigated.

 TO does not wash trade. TO does not margin trade. TO does not have shady book keeping, or false triggering. Deposits and withdrawals are the fastest I've ever witnessed. And customer support, despite being on Twitter - simply works faster and more efficient that any other exchange.

 Regarding this case;

 On the 29th of January, this user contacted me in an extremely aggressive manner, while asking my help. He deposited 1.9M Graft only to find his account became locked. This was after a successful previous dump. I will not reveal TO secrets, but it is clear without a doubt this was the user that performed a 51% reorg attack using NiceHash, and because Graft is currently only traded on TO with enough liquidity, he was silly enough to deposit back the stolen amount under a new account. This action instantly flagged his account and was locked for investigation.

 "Moon Cow", as seen in the screenshot below - was so enraged that he even threatened to sue Graft lead developers - which is in the least both bizarre and … just plain silly.

 

 I hope that it is evident by the choice of words and aggressive nature, this is not someone in distress asking for genuine help. This is someone who is on the verge fo a tantrum attempting restitution with threats, who is irritated and not genuinely concerned about his funds.

 I did, however, take this very seriously, and contacted TO admin. We both went through the evidence and I have absolutely no doubt at all regarding TO's admin's seriousness and honesty in this matter.

 Moon Cow / soundasleep acuses TO of selective scam, and infers about an attack that nobody knew about except TO, and then the community a few days later when deposit confirmations increased to 200 and everyone started asking questions. What an astonishing coincidence…

 I follow several communities that use TO daily. I have never, ever once hear anyone mention and detained funds - even during and after several attacks TO has been subject to.

 Even still, I did invite Moon Cow / soundasleep to show real intention by "KYC" himself to TO, as a sign of good faith and transparency. And by that, I would involve myself further at a higher level.  Which he refused, again, threatening to contact the authorities. Which of course, I said that would a perfectly valid option and invited him to do so.

 Moon Cow / soundasleep is also anonymous and has no legitimacy in this case.

 He is a NiceHash attacker.

from the reddit post you mention in the first place, he/she admits to trying to do a double spend against tradeogre after deleting the post.

Again, there is no proof, how do you know who ordered what and where? Where did he admit? Can you post proof? There is no point in depositing x amount of coins? Wow, so you as an admin (obviously) are going to decide what is a "normal" deposit and what is "too much", based on your subjective feelings? I know people who have 10x those amounts in various shitcoins, so when they send it to an exchange,
admin decides that is "too much" and steals their money, cause they could dump it? I'm sorry guys, but I'm done with this.

We seriously need to ignore all the centralized exchanges ASAP, this shit will lead to mt.gox x1000...

Graft is the only CryptonightV8 pow coin and this guy orders 30+ mh/s at the exact same time as his deposit of 1.9 million yeah ok.  there is no point to deposit that much at once unless you are dumping onto the entire order book.  he even admits he tried to do a doublespend the day before in his message and now is mad that he gets caught the second time?  yeah im sure they just want to steal your graft shitcoin so they can sell it on another exchange, wait there is no other exchange for it. what a fucking idiot.

What makes you think that they're allowed to lock coins from someone just because that someone may be an attacker? Unless he did this to TradeOgre with these very coins, this is theft.

Oh wow, I'm not sure you realize how bad this looks for you. Noob account registered just to defend TO admin...
Can you prove double spend? Hashrate spike dont mean nothing, they're appearing all the time on all projects...

All I see is a guy who had his money stolen and no real arguments to show otherwise.

looks like this guy is the GRAFT nicehash 51% attack doublespender.  props to TradeOgre for catching him

https://i.imgur.com/BlQqur9.png

I am going to quote your post so that the images are visible. But I think this should be under the investigations board, you only make a scam accusation here when you have got exclusive evidence pinning down the culprit or if he has directly scammed you.

You might wanna look at this thread that was made about the exchange sometime last year and probably get something out of it https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/tradeogre-3105505

Hi!

I've been with tradeogre for a long time without problems but we have to admit that all this case is strange.
Let's wait and see if anyone else has information about this or similar cases.

Hello everyone,
just saw this post on Reddit the other day, and now I see it removed, but pics are still visible,
this is suspicious AF if you ask me.

Original reddit post: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/ang459/tradeogre_selective_scam/
Comments are still there...

topic pics:
https://i.redd.it/0v86g2wk6se21.png
https://i.redd.it/d3jw83wk6se21.png
https://i.redd.it/g01widxk6se21.png (account locked)
https://i.redd.it/pq4mpcxk6se21.png (chat with TO admin)
https://i.redd.it/sljc22wk6se21.png

Whats your take on this?
I checked TO's "whois" and domain is private, admin is a ghost... not a good sign at all.