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Topic: Transaction not complete: Address of “lost” Bitcoins not in my wallet (Read 224 times)

legendary
Activity: 2338
Merit: 5297
Self-proclaimed Genius
If I have a ? mark in my transaction how long do I have to wait before it is cleared?
also, what happens if I send satoshis to a wallet that is mining, will it ever go through?
Please create your own thread when asking an off-topic question.
To do that: go to the board where you want to post (eg.: Bitcoin Technical Support)
and click "new topic" at the right-hand side of the screen (at the top of the topic list).

Now, to answer your question:
[1] I suppose it's Bitcoin core, then '?' are transactions that has various issues, most of them are txns that already dropped from your mempool.
To "clear" it (you mean remove?), you can use "Abandon transaction" when you right-click the transaction in the 'Transactions' tab, you should be able to reuse the inputs that it's trying to spend.

[2] This doesn't make sense, if you send to an address that's used for mining reward, it will be sent "normally" and prioritization will be based from the fee rate just like any other transactions.

If you have further questions, include it in your thread.
newbie
Activity: 14
Merit: 0
If I have a ? mark in my transaction how long do I have to wait before it is cleared?
also, what happens if I send satoshis to a wallet that is mining, will it ever go through?
newbie
Activity: 7
Merit: 0
... can I also convert an existing wallet into a cold storage wallet? Or am I just confused now  Lips sealed
If it wasn't originally created and setup "offline"... then it should never be treated as a cold storage wallet... if at any point the wallet was on an online device (PC/mobile etc), then it should be considered as being a "hot wallet".

To be a "true" cold storage wallet, it needs to have been created offline... and must remain offline 100% of the time.

Got it. Thank you!
legendary
Activity: 2338
Merit: 5297
Self-proclaimed Genius
I'm about to transfer some to a yield farming stock exchange wallet I already have. The rest I'll put in the newly created wallet (still hot storage). The Tut is for creating a watching-only version wallet (that creates a new wallet, right?): can I also convert an existing wallet into a cold storage wallet? Or am I just confused now  Lips sealed
IMO it's indeed a bit confusing because there's no numbering and detailed steps on creating the the "offline wallet".
Basically, the steps are:
  • Create a new wallet with new seed on an offline machine.
  • Get its "master public key" and use that to create a watch-only wallet on the online machine.
  • The rest of the steps demonstrate the transaction creation, signing and broadcast process

Okay so it wouldn't be a very huge amount, if it's something you can risk, a Hot wallet on a "very secured" system will do.
Or consider getting a reputable hardware wallet from its official source (more info in this board: Hardware wallets).
HCP
legendary
Activity: 2086
Merit: 4314
... can I also convert an existing wallet into a cold storage wallet? Or am I just confused now  Lips sealed
If it wasn't originally created and setup "offline"... then it should never be treated as a cold storage wallet... if at any point the wallet was on an online device (PC/mobile etc), then it should be considered as being a "hot wallet".

To be a "true" cold storage wallet, it needs to have been created offline... and must remain offline 100% of the time.
newbie
Activity: 7
Merit: 0
Do you think this wallet is still secure or should I transfer max amount to another one in case the putative scam app has had access in some way?
I wouldn't take any risks, and move the funds to another wallet with a new seed word phrase.
I second this.
And [off-topic] proceed to give you a merit but it seems like it was double-sent, I thought it's not possible :/
-edit- I've accidentally pressed "prev" button and sent a merit again after a few minutes thinking that I still haven't.


@2140Miner With that amount, I'd suggest you to create a "cold-storage" set-up, here's a tutorial on how to set-it-up in Electrum:
https://electrum.readthedocs.io/en/latest/coldstorage.html
The screenshots are bit different than the latest version but the buttons/menu should have similar names.

I'm about to transfer some to a yield farming stock exchange wallet I already have. The rest I'll put in the newly created wallet (still hot storage). The Tut is for creating a watching-only version wallet (that creates a new wallet, right?): can I also convert an existing wallet into a cold storage wallet? Or am I just confused now  Lips sealed
legendary
Activity: 2338
Merit: 5297
Self-proclaimed Genius
Do you think this wallet is still secure or should I transfer max amount to another one in case the putative scam app has had access in some way?
I wouldn't take any risks, and move the funds to another wallet with a new seed word phrase.
I second this.
And [off-topic] proceed to give you a merit but it seems like it was double-sent, I thought it's not possible :/
-edit- I've accidentally pressed "prev" button and sent a merit again after a few minutes thinking that I still haven't.


@2140Miner With that amount, I'd suggest you to create a "cold-storage" set-up, here's a tutorial on how to set-it-up in Electrum:
https://electrum.readthedocs.io/en/latest/coldstorage.html
The screenshots are bit different than the latest version but the buttons/menu should have similar names.
HCP
legendary
Activity: 2086
Merit: 4314
I concur... seems odd that the wallet just disappeared from the App Store... but then, Apple aren't exactly "Crypto Friendly" Undecided So, it's possible the app was removed for some technical reason rather than it being an outright scam.

However, "better safe than sorry" would seem to be the best course of action here... move the funds to a new wallet.
legendary
Activity: 3262
Merit: 16303
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Do you think this wallet is still secure or should I transfer max amount to another one in case the putative scam app has had access in some way?
I wouldn't take any risks, and move the funds to another wallet with a new seed word phrase.
newbie
Activity: 7
Merit: 0
You're lucky if it's a non-custodial wallet where you can export the keys needed to export the funds to a working wallet.

TL;DR: Saying the wallet's name is good enough info to tell why the balance is missing and if it's recoverable.
I have the seed phrase well protected. I also loged it in to a trusted wallet now (balance still 0, and 0 transactions in history).
Fortunately, I think you have fair chance to recover it as long as it's a BIP39 seed and you haven't restored it to a fake wallet.

Try Electrum: https://electrum.org | Verify its signature: /index.php?topic=5240594.0

To restore your wallet, use these selections when creating a new wallet:
  • Standard wallet->I already have a seed->Click "option", tick "BIP39 seed"->Paste the seed phrase->next
  • When prompted to select a wallet type, select depending on your previous wallet's address type:
    "legacy (p2pkh)" for addresses that start with '1', "p2sh-segwit (p2wpkh-p2sh)" for SegWit addresses that start with '3' (<- I bet it's this one) and "native segwit (p2wpkh)" for 'bc1' addresses.
  • If you're not sure, you can create three separate Electrum wallets with three different address types and see if which one will come up with balance.

I don't know any wallet for IOS named "Bitcoin Wallet" aside from the one "for Android", anyways
some wallets use non-standard derivation path so you need to research the term "[N] wallet derivation path" if you fail to restore the right addresses.
Electrum wallet's derivation path can be edited in the address type selection window.

I did this and as it seems there IS balance!  Shocked

Do you think this wallet is still secure or should I transfer max amount to another one in case the putative scam app has had access in some way?
newbie
Activity: 7
Merit: 0
There’s no setting for the denomination in my wallet app. Huh
Was it this "Bitcoin Wallet" app? https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.schildbach.wallet&hl=en

Or something else? or are you using iOS device? Huh

I use an iPhone. It's not the Schildbach Wallet but it's looks almost the same. The Bitcoin Wallet I've used is not available anymore in the App Store and I can't find any hints on Google about this wallet now. Like it disappeared completely.
HCP
legendary
Activity: 2086
Merit: 4314
There’s no setting for the denomination in my wallet app. Huh
Was it this "Bitcoin Wallet" app? https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.schildbach.wallet&hl=en

Or something else? or are you using iOS device? Huh
newbie
Activity: 7
Merit: 0
...
From your bitcoin wallet app settings change the denomination from mBTC to BTC. This should be enough to remove any ambiguity  Smiley
Bitcoin wallet uses mBTC as default denomination.

You sent exactly 0.00401196 BTC (which is a little more than 4 mBTC) from 3AEHDZ8ouuXCGHVteWCRGk9XZQe5QfDMKw to 1FTo83GwxiDbrzhowrS1qK5yDyU7Q9AEAU

Block explorers might be a little bit confusing if you don't fully understand how bitcoin transactions work and what inputs and outputs are (hd wallets / change addresses)!

There’s no setting for the denomination in my wallet app. Huh
legendary
Activity: 2338
Merit: 5297
Self-proclaimed Genius
You're lucky if it's a non-custodial wallet where you can export the keys needed to export the funds to a working wallet.

TL;DR: Saying the wallet's name is good enough info to tell why the balance is missing and if it's recoverable.
I have the seed phrase well protected. I also loged it in to a trusted wallet now (balance still 0, and 0 transactions in history).
Fortunately, I think you have fair chance to recover it as long as it's a BIP39 seed and you haven't restored it to a fake wallet.

Try Electrum: https://electrum.org | Verify its signature: /index.php?topic=5240594.0

To restore your wallet, use these selections when creating a new wallet:
  • Standard wallet->I already have a seed->Click "option", tick "BIP39 seed"->Paste the seed phrase->next
  • When prompted to select a wallet type, select depending on your previous wallet's address type:
    "legacy (p2pkh)" for addresses that start with '1', "p2sh-segwit (p2wpkh-p2sh)" for SegWit addresses that start with '3' (<- I bet it's this one) and "native segwit (p2wpkh)" for 'bc1' addresses.
  • If you're not sure, you can create three separate Electrum wallets with three different address types and see if which one will come up with balance.

I don't know any wallet for IOS named "Bitcoin Wallet" aside from the one "for Android", anyways
some wallets use non-standard derivation path so you need to research the term "[N] wallet derivation path" if you fail to restore the right addresses.
Electrum wallet's derivation path can be edited in the address type selection window.
legendary
Activity: 2478
Merit: 2795
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From your bitcoin wallet app settings change the denomination from mBTC to BTC. This should be enough to remove any ambiguity  Smiley
Bitcoin wallet uses mBTC as default denomination.

You sent exactly 0.00401196 BTC (which is a little more than 4 mBTC) from 3AEHDZ8ouuXCGHVteWCRGk9XZQe5QfDMKw to 1FTo83GwxiDbrzhowrS1qK5yDyU7Q9AEAU

Block explorers might be a little bit confusing if you don't fully understand how bitcoin transactions work and what inputs and outputs are (hd wallets / change addresses)!
newbie
Activity: 7
Merit: 0
you sent funds to an exchange, but the exchange did not credit your account? You checked a block explorer and you see the address given to you by the exchange was funded... the address you provided (3LXFcCGTmWWeqJ5oQMx6eVsSRj1Qx8xwME) is indeed funded with ~4  BTC, but it's hard to understand where this address fits into your story.
If this is incorrect, maybe you can try to explain the problem in 2 or 3 phrases, just the problem, not previous tests and stuff..

Sorry for that. I’ll try to explain better:
I’m not sure how to figure out past addresses connected to my wallet as I only see the most actual one.
I transacted a little more than 4 Bitcoins to 1FTo83GwxiDbrzhowrS1qK5yDyU7Q9AEAU (of couse I don’t remember the address, it’s what I see on the explorer and as far as I can tell I have control over this address) In the wallet App, called “Bitcoin Wallet”, behind the listed  transaction of -4  there’s a link to the block explorer with this exact address. But as you see there only arrived 0.012.

Can one transaction go to multiple addresses without me noticing?

I don’t care a lot about my privacy in this case, thank you Smiley


You're lucky if it's a non-custodial wallet where you can export the keys needed to export the funds to a working wallet.

TL;DR: Saying the wallet's name is good enough info to tell why the balance is missing and if it's recoverable.

I have the seed phrase well protected. I also loged it in to a trusted wallet now (balance still 0, and 0 transactions in history).
legendary
Activity: 2212
Merit: 5622
Non-custodial BTC Wallet
I see the address, where the “lost” Bitcoins are, but my wallet balance is 0.-
3LXFcCGTmWWeqJ5oQMx6eVsSRj1Qx8xwME

Which wallet are you using?
This address has balance. You can recover it if you have the private keys or the seed. This might just be a problem of wallet interface/syncronization.

Do you have a set of 12-24 words (seed) that you received when you created your wallet? If you do, be very careful with it, do not share it if anyone.
You can just insert those words in https://electrum.org wallet and you will be able com recover your funds.

If you don't have any Seed, the chances of recovering your funds are lower.

App not in Appstore anymore (it had good recommendations and Google Search didn’t ring my alarms), but now there is no Support Center or anything.

This is the problem with unknown wallets.. you don't know what you are downloading and putting your money in.
There are so many trusted and good wallets in the web, people should always look for a reputable one, not a random one.
legendary
Activity: 2338
Merit: 5297
Self-proclaimed Genius
I hope you can help me to understand this:

Transaction from stock exchange wallet to personal wallet:
Satoshi-Test “successfull”.
Test amount “successfull”
Transaction of XX Bitcoins “successfull”

Transaction from personal wallet to another exchange stock wallet (total balance):
In personal wallet shows “successfull” but only partly received (the amount of the Test-sendings came, the other Bitcoins not).  Huh

I see the address, where the “lost” Bitcoins are, but my wallet balance is 0.-
3LXFcCGTmWWeqJ5oQMx6eVsSRj1Qx8xwME
Somewhat understandable, at least the transactions of 3LXFcCGTmWWeqJ5oQMx6eVsSRj1Qx8xwME matched up to the statement.
The first and last transactions look like withdrawals from an Exchange (because of the inputs):

The latest transaction dated May 5 looks like batched, it seems to have included your last two withdrawals but it's missing from your personal wallet's history and balance.
If this is the case, you can only see the transaction from April 20 which was already spent, so your displayed balance is '0'.

App not in Appstore anymore (it had good recommendations and Google Search didn’t ring my alarms), but now there is no Support Center or anything.
But I suppose you still have the "personal wallet" in your device?
You're lucky if it's a non-custodial wallet where you can export the keys needed to export the funds to a working wallet.

TL;DR: Saying the wallet's name is good enough info to tell why the balance is missing and if it's recoverable.
legendary
Activity: 3318
Merit: 4895
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Sorry, but your story is all over the place... it's very hard to follow what exactly happened...

Am i correct in saying that the problem is:
you sent funds to an exchange, but the exchange did not credit your account? You checked a block explorer and you see the address given to you by the exchange was funded... the address you provided (3LXFcCGTmWWeqJ5oQMx6eVsSRj1Qx8xwME) is indeed funded with ~4  BTC, but it's hard to understand where this address fits into your story.
If this is incorrect, maybe you can try to explain the problem in 2 or 3 phrases, just the problem, not previous tests and stuff..

It might also be easyer if you start naming names: which wallet, which exchange, which address, which transaction id... Do realise that posting addresses and transaction id's decrease your privacy, but nobody can use this data to steal from you (unless you start giving away seed phrases, private keys or login details to the exchange)
newbie
Activity: 7
Merit: 0
I hope you can help me to understand this:

Transaction from stock exchange wallet to personal wallet:
Satoshi-Test “successfull”.
Test amount “successfull”
Transaction of XX Bitcoins “successfull”

Transaction from personal wallet to another exchange stock wallet (total balance):
In personal wallet shows “successfull” but only partly received (the amount of the Test-sendings came, the other Bitcoins not).  Huh

I see the address, where the “lost” Bitcoins are, but my wallet balance is 0.-
3LXFcCGTmWWeqJ5oQMx6eVsSRj1Qx8xwME

App not in Appstore anymore (it had good recommendations and Google Search didn’t ring my alarms), but now there is no Support Center or anything.

If I could say it was a Scam I would take that as my mistake (shame on me). But funny about that is that the Bitcoins are still on the address (unspent) as I see in the Blockchain Explorer. As I received a part of my transaction it seems strange, doesn’t it?
First exchange stock whitelisted the address (I used the QR Code and address was right).

If someone thinks he or she can help, I have screenshots of everything and I would give a nice reward to anyone who can help me bring my Bitcoins back.

Maybe you’d say I’m just too dumb to understand the whole Bitcoin thing but maybe you are also that intelligent to figure this out Smiley
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