Topic: Transaction sequence (Read 261 times)

To be precise, it's 0.05BTC minus transaction fees.


Depends on the wallet you use, few wallet might try to use minimum possible input they use (e.g. 0.4BTC and 0.2BTC rather than 0.1BTC, 0.2BTC and 0.3BTC).

that is correct but how your wallet chooses outputs depends on the wallet itself. there really is no rule to follow. in the past age of an output could make a difference in some miner's decision of picking up the transaction with low (zero) fee. but this not not true anymore but some wallets still use the age to  select them and some others randomly select outputs.
change address isn't anything special, it is an address like anything else. some wallets use it to split the "change" and other funds to improve privacy a little bit.

again it depends on the wallet you are using. a full node client adds your transaction to its own mempool and each time it connects to a new node it relays its transactions to that other node. an SPV node may only connect to a single full node and broadcast the tx to that node only. and so on.

precisely.

again it depends on the wallet client you are using. usually they should have an option to let you choose which node you want to connect to, ban a node, add a node,... for example Electrum (which is SPV client) lets you manually select an Electrum node to connect to.
but most of the times the client should do the selection under the hood without you noticing. since technically it doesn't matter which node you connect to and broadcast a new transaction to.

Hello again. I have a few more questions and I apologize in advance if they appear stupid 

Can we use numbers so I can better understand this?

Let's say someone sent me 0.10, 0.20, 0.30, and 0.40 btc in the past [total unspent output = 1 btc] and I want to send 0.55 to someone else. Assuming my wallet will combine the first three transactions 0.10 + 0.20 + 0.30 = 0.60. The excess balance of 0.05 less the mining fee will go to the change address generated by my wallet. Is this correct?

When selecting unspent outputs to combine, does the wallet follow a method like first in first out? Or is this random?
Why is there a change address?

Do I get to pick which node to send to? Or do you mean to say the node(s) connected to the wallet I am using?

the thing about number of confirmations is that the value people should look for depends on a bunch of factors.

for starters it depends on how the user is connecting to the bitcoin network and he they perceive each block. for example someone running a full verification node can be certain about validity of a block and the fact that there has not been any chain splits or blockchain reorganization so they can accept 1 confirmation with a much higher certainty. in comparison someone using a SPV client doesn't have the same confidence since SPV clients can't detect reorgs as well as a full node does so they have to require a higher number of confirmations. and things are worse for those using other types of wallets like those that rely on a centralized server (usually phone wallets are like this).

there is also network status (what is going on with bitcoin). 99.9% of the times bitcoin is working fine but there are times that we have an upgrade (a soft/hard fork) that can increase the chances of a split and during such times (like the 2017 SegWit soft fork) specially if there is a high chance of chain split (like the 2017 UASF) a higher number of confirmation should be required.

last but not least, the amount of bitcoin being received can be another deciding factor. for instance receiving $100 worth of bitcoin doesn't require the same precautions as receiving $1 million worth of bitcoin.

The thread reminds that I read this part in the book "Mastering Bitcoin". There are some exchanges and casinos accept and make deposits visible in balance after 1 confirmation, but most of the have a number at 3 confirmations. I remember this part because if OP want to make deal with a person, he should wait the transaction has at least 1 confirmation on the network or even better, with 3 confirmations.

It will take time before I can fully understand what really goes on in the network but I appreciate all the data provided here so far. I realized how much of a newbie I am from reading your responses. If anybody want to add more to the discussion, please do so. I will be offline soon but I will read them when I get back.

Well, your wallet holds private keys, the public keys of those private keys are hashed. These hashes are your addresses.
In the past, somebody funded your addresses: somebody else created a transaction, and one or more of the outputs of said transaction were funding an address whose private key belonged to your wallet. You have one or more unspent outputs funding one or more addresses, the sum of the value of these unspent outputs is seen as the balance of your wallet.

When you click "send", you wallet will combine one or more of those unspent outputs with a total value equal or greater to the amount you want to transfer PLUS the mining fee. If the sum of the values of the used unspent outputs is bigger than the amount you want to transfer plus the fee, a change address is used. This change addres also belongs to your wallet, and it's funded with the leftover value.
In the meantime, while selecting unspent outputs to use, and finding out wether a change address is needed, your wallet also calculates the optimal fee. Sometimes you can pick your own fee, sometimes a slider is used, sometimes the fee calculation is hidden altogether, but your wallet calculates the weight of your transaction and adjusts the fee accordingly.

After the unsigned transaction is created (unspent outputs are used as an input, new unspent outputs are created as output), the transaction is signed with the private key(s) belonging to the addresses whose unspent outputs are being used as an input.

The signed transaction is now broadcasted to the nodes. Each node checks if all unspent outputs used as input are available in their utxo db (db with all valid unspent outputs), they also check the signatures. Invalid transactions get rejected, valid ones get broadcasted to other nodes.

In the end, the transaction ends up in the mempool of about all the nodes of the network. Some of these nodes belong to miners. Miners sort the transactions from highest fee/Wu to lowest fee/Wu. They take the top tx's (untill the block is full), calculate a merkle tree, put the merkle root in the block header they're trying to solve (together with the sha256d hash of the previous block header) and try to find a nonce for which the sha256d of the new header is under the current target.

If they succeed, they found a valid block, and they can broadcast it to the network.

As soon as a signed transaction is broadcasted, the receiver usually sees an incoming, unconfirmed transaction. Once a transaction ended up in a valid block, the receiver will see the transaction is confirmed.
When new blocks get mined on top of the block containing a transaction, the receiver will see +1 confirmation...

As long as a transaction remains unconfirmed, it'll stay in the node's mempool. Each node can truncate their mempool, so if a transaction remains unconfirmed for to long, most nodes will have dropped it from their mempool. This is one of the reasons why it's a bad idear to accept 0 conf transaction.

when you create and broadcast a transaction it goes to the node(s) that you send it to, then those nodes send it to other nodes until nearly all the network finds out about your transaction (assuming it is a valid transaction and it doesn't violate any of the preference rules set by any of the nodes like the standard rules including but not limited to fee per byte).

one of these nodes belongs to the recipient (or they are connected to a node through different ways such as an SPV client), so you can say that they "receive" the coins you sent them as soon as the transaction reaches their node.

similarly miners are connected to the same nodes and choose a transaction from the mempool of that node. if they choose your tx and put it in the block they are mining and then they successfully mine that block, your transaction becomes "confirmed" which means the cost of reversing it is big enough to be considered "final".

in other words the recipient receives the transaction (the money) right away since it takes a second or two for a tx to propagate through the entire bitcoin network. but it will be final (irreversible) after it is confirmed.

To visualize it better this a good infographics

Source: Transaction cycle

_{Also some good explanation on this blog.}

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https://itnext.io/pulling-the-blockchain-apart-the-transaction-life-cycle-381b76842c6

When I press 'send', what exactly happens after? What I know is ¹the transaction is broadcasted into the network, ²a miner will collect it and add it to a block, ³it will be confirmed, ⁴then the recipient will receive the btc I sent.

Please add more in-betweens and correct my misunderstanding (if there's any). I don't mind if you get technical about the processes. I simply want to see the whole picture. Thank you.