Trezor Password Manager Deprecation!

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Quote from: dkbit98 on January 28, 2023, 06:02:01 PM

There are several hardware wallets that exist today and they are Trezor forks, like KeepKey, OneKey, Prokey, etc.
OneKey is biggest Hardware Wallet company based in China, and they could easily continue with OneKey forked Password Manager.

I think forking a hardware wallet and a password manager app has different merit for them I guess, at least the former is more profitable for them. I can definitely see someone or some company deciding to provide a password manager on their hardware wallet software, but there are alternatives such as KeePass if they want to fork from existing software. At the end of the day, it is just a personal choice though, so I'll see if there are any new forks of it.

Quote from: dkbit98 on January 26, 2023, 04:14:04 PM

Bitwarden is not bad but I don't want to use any cloud service aka other people computer, so I would only used it as self hosted.

I remember trying to self-host Bitwarden but failed because I need to register a domain that points to my device. Is this still the case or can I point to my local IP address now? I think the problem is also related to SSL encryption certificate. In the end, I choose KeePass. Syncing manually can be a pain sometimes but it is not so bad since I just use 2 devices regularly.

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1Password (which mentioned on Trezor website as alternative) also had few security incident and IMO should be avoided.

I won't be surprised if other centralized platforms have similar hiccups but are not yet exposed. I'd never use any centralized password manager even if it is convenient to use. They should recommend more open-source password managers as an alternative on that page.

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Quote from: Hispo on January 27, 2023, 08:30:01 PM

Also, I thought it would not matter much what service of password managing one chose?
Because as far as I understood during my brief investigation, the data is encrypted and decrypted using the trezor itself?

Data with login details and passwords on Trezor was encrypted, but I don't know how exactly and it's possible they identified some weakness because web browser must be used for this to work.
It sure matters what password manager someone is going to use after Trezor Password Manager, and I wouldn't recommend using LastPass or anything like this.

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I don't expect someone decide to continue maintain it when more established alternative exist and currently there are almost no contributor.

It's not impossible to happen.
There are several hardware wallets that exist today and they are Trezor forks, like KeepKey, OneKey, Prokey, etc.
OneKey is biggest Hardware Wallet company based in China, and they could easily continue with OneKey forked Password Manager.

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1Password (which mentioned on Trezor website as alternative) also had few security incident and IMO should be avoided.

Yeah, I think Trezor needs to update that page asap.

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Quote from: dkbit98 on January 26, 2023, 04:14:04 PM

If I remember correctly ledger hardware wallet should also have password manager, and I am not sure if any other devices have something similar.

That's right. Many people probably don't even know about it because it's not available with the default settings. It's one of their experimental features that can be activated through the developer mode in the settings of Ledger Live. https://support.ledger.com/hc/en-us/articles/360017501380-Passwords?docs=true
I have never tried it, and I assume it's a painful process entering complex passwords and finding the characters you want with the left/right buttons on the Ledger HWs.

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I never used their password manager, but I was considering to check it out. I would have not expected them to stop giving it support this way, anyways, I makes some sense if their main marketing is to those who want to keep Bitcoin safely.

Also, I thought it would not matter much what service of password managing one chose?
Because as far as I understood during my brief investigation, the data is encrypted and decrypted using the trezor itself?

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Quote from: jackg on January 26, 2023, 02:44:38 PM

So many wallet apps have a browser now I'm surprised they haven't done the same with chromium in Suite and completely avoided this.

It's extra work for them and I think they are now focused most of their resources for new generation hardware wallet with their new secure element.
I don't know how many people in total are using Trezor Password Manager, but this is not brining them any additional profit and many people never even heard about it.
If I remember correctly ledger hardware wallet should also have password manager, and I am not sure if any other devices have something similar.

Quote from: NeuroticFish on January 26, 2023, 03:08:29 PM

I've used both. For completely offline use KeePass is just fine. For those who want a password manager with a server for multiple devices/platforms, ..I do like Bitwarden and it's open source too.
Of course, everybody should be careful what's he's storing on the internet.

Bitwarden is not bad but I don't want to use any cloud service aka other people computer, so I would only used it as self hosted.

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Quote from: dkbit98 on January 26, 2023, 11:24:50 AM

Trezor first suggesting for replacement is Bitwarden, but I would strongly suggest you first try KeePass

I've used both. For completely offline use KeePass is just fine. For those who want a password manager with a server for multiple devices/platforms, ..I do like Bitwarden and it's open source too.
Of course, everybody should be careful what's he's storing on the internet.

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So many wallet apps have a browser now I'm surprised they haven't done the same with chromium in Suite and completely avoided this.

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I just received email from Trezor that their official Password Manager will no longer be maintained after June 30, 2023.
This was probably done because Chrome is making big changes in their browser and Trezor developers don't have enough resources to keep up with this.
If you used Trezor for this purpose than it's time to think about migration to other applications, and Trezor provided instructions for that on their website.
Click on your user name and select Export storage, and you will find them in file trezor-export.csv.

https://trezor.io/learn/a/trezor-password-manager

Trezor first suggesting for replacement is Bitwarden, but I would strongly suggest you first try KeePass or some of it's forks like KeePassXC for desktop and KeePassDX for mobile
They are all open source and they work perfectly without use of any centralized server.
Don't use LastPass that was hacked several times, and I see Trezor still have them listed on their website!

Trezor Password Manager is open source app and there is always a chance someone could fork it and continue maintaining it:
https://github.com/trezor/trezor-password-manager

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