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paradoxal420

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Quote from: Welsh on January 15, 2015, 02:51:55 PM

Quote from: redsn0w on January 15, 2015, 02:44:14 PM

I voted yes but I know that sub-forum board will never be made ( those ponzi schemes are ruining the forum). Do you think if a newbie will lose his bitcoin will it stay here or leave for ever from the bitcoin "world" (and obviously from this forum)?

What makes you think that? There's been plenty of discussion recently and theymos weighed in on the situation:

Quote from: theymos on January 13, 2015, 03:46:23 AM

This has come up before. The main issue is that ponzis are very similar to both other gambling sites and real investment sites, so it's difficult to create a category that includes exactly the right things. How about this:

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Investor-based games
Games where the main factor is whether or not new "investors" join the game. Also any Bitcoin-denominated investment product with an APR of 15% or more, which are similarly risky even if they're not actually paying interest using investor deposits.

Would this description cover any real investments or non-ponzi gambling sites? Would it fail to cover any ponzis that have existed in the Bitcoin ecosystem?

Also, are any actual users of the Gambling section irritated by this, or are people just trying to hide this kind of game? Is anyone against the creation of this section?

I think that would be a much more suitable place for Ponzis/HYIP. I come to the Gambling forum for actual gambling games, not 200 different shady HYIP/Ponzi sites lol

redsn0w

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#Free market

Quote from: Welsh on January 15, 2015, 02:51:55 PM

Quote from: redsn0w on January 15, 2015, 02:44:14 PM

I voted yes but I know that sub-forum board will never be made ( those ponzi schemes are ruining the forum). Do you think if a newbie will lose his bitcoin will it stay here or leave for ever from the bitcoin "world" (and obviously from this forum)?

What makes you think that? There's been plenty of discussion recently and theymos weighed in on the situation:

Quote from: theymos on January 13, 2015, 03:46:23 AM

This has come up before. The main issue is that ponzis are very similar to both other gambling sites and real investment sites, so it's difficult to create a category that includes exactly the right things. How about this:

Quote

Investor-based games
Games where the main factor is whether or not new "investors" join the game. Also any Bitcoin-denominated investment product with an APR of 15% or more, which are similarly risky even if they're not actually paying interest using investor deposits.

Would this description cover any real investments or non-ponzi gambling sites? Would it fail to cover any ponzis that have existed in the Bitcoin ecosystem?

Also, are any actual users of the Gambling section irritated by this, or are people just trying to hide this kind of game? Is anyone against the creation of this section?

Oh sorry , I didn't read the post from theymos. Hmm.. maybe the Investor-based games childBoard will be better then the current situation , I 'm not against the creation of that section.

Welsh

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Quote from: redsn0w on January 15, 2015, 02:44:14 PM

I voted yes but I know that sub-forum board will never be made ( those ponzi schemes are ruining the forum). Do you think if a newbie will lose his bitcoin will it stay here or leave for ever from the bitcoin "world" (and obviously from this forum)?

What makes you think that? There's been plenty of discussion recently and theymos weighed in on the situation:

Quote from: theymos on January 13, 2015, 03:46:23 AM

This has come up before. The main issue is that ponzis are very similar to both other gambling sites and real investment sites, so it's difficult to create a category that includes exactly the right things. How about this:

Quote

Investor-based games
Games where the main factor is whether or not new "investors" join the game. Also any Bitcoin-denominated investment product with an APR of 15% or more, which are similarly risky even if they're not actually paying interest using investor deposits.

Would this description cover any real investments or non-ponzi gambling sites? Would it fail to cover any ponzis that have existed in the Bitcoin ecosystem?

Also, are any actual users of the Gambling section irritated by this, or are people just trying to hide this kind of game? Is anyone against the creation of this section?

redsn0w

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#Free market

I voted yes but I know that sub-forum board will never be made ( those ponzi schemes are ruining the forum). Do you think if a newbie will lose his bitcoin will it stay here or leave for ever from the bitcoin "world" (and obviously from this forum)?

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Agree with the idea

All of the ponzis that were sent to games and rounds died instantly. The idea that a separate board would give ponzis legitimacy is ridiculous. By allowing them to be in forum at all gives them the same legitimacy

Sending them to a ponzi subforum would free up the gambling space clutter and spam. And if there happens to be a paying, legitimate ponzi (there won't) it can rise to the top of the ponzi subforum for 'investors'.

paradoxal420

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Quote from: Shogen on January 15, 2015, 11:06:38 AM

Agree with you that those ponzi should be placed in a separate subforum.

Quote from: paradoxal420 on January 15, 2015, 08:56:02 AM

I have to go through 3 pages just to find something that isn't a Ponzi...

Fortunately it is not that bad yet. At this moment, roughly half of the threads in page 1 are not related to ponzi or hyip.

Not that bad? That's a joke lol.

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Agree with you that those ponzi should be placed in a separate subforum.

Quote from: paradoxal420 on January 15, 2015, 08:56:02 AM

I have to go through 3 pages just to find something that isn't a Ponzi...

Fortunately it is not that bad yet. At this moment, roughly half of the threads in page 1 are not related to ponzi or hyip.

ComboChris

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definitely supporting this

uki

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Quote from: paradoxal420 on January 15, 2015, 08:56:02 AM

Okay so in the past couple of weeks the gambling forum has turned to shit.

I have to go through 3 pages just to find something that isn't a Ponzi...
Before someone says "oh only stupid people fall for Ponzi's etc...".

It's not the fact that I fall for Ponzi/HYIP schemes, it's the fact that I don't want to see them at all.
It would be a different story if I could hide/filter threads I don't want to see but I can't.

The amount of schemes that have popped up in the past week alone is a complete joke.

I fully agree. I was postulating that in many threads in gambling section, as PONZI has very little to do with gambling imo.
A test run is needed.

paradoxal420

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Okay so in the past couple of weeks the gambling forum has turned to shit.

I have to go through 3 pages just to find something that isn't a Ponzi...
Before someone says "oh only stupid people fall for Ponzi's etc...".

It's not the fact that I fall for Ponzi/HYIP schemes, it's the fact that I don't want to see them at all.
It would be a different story if I could hide/filter threads I don't want to see but I can't.

The amount of schemes that have popped up in the past week alone is a complete joke.

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