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FP91G

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New options for triple mining now
GRAM+IRON+ZIL | IRONFISH+GRAM+ZILLIQA

====HiveOs====

-a fishhash+sha256ton+zil
-o [2]stratum+tcp://stratum.hyperpool.pro:8040
-w [2]Rig1Gram
-u [2]eaf89db7108470dc3f6b23eac0035a114556ff979292a49c1e6d8f5a17716c9a48c248cf5924
-o [3]stratum+tcp://eu.zil.k1pool.com:1111
-w [3]Rig1Zilliqa
-u [3]KrZPGTQtNfTXe6HccJ67GmRZBDBZQXTVWXW
--lock-cclock [1]1680 --cclock [1]200 --mclock [1]1000 --lock-cclock [3]1300 --mclock [3]1050

====RaveOs====

--a2 sha256ton
-o [2]stratum+tcp://stratum.hyperpool.pro:8040
-w [2]Rig1RaveOsGram
-u [2]eaf89db7108470dc3f6b23eac0035a114556ff979292a49c1e6d8f5a17716c9a48c248cf5924
--a3 zil
-o [3]stratum+tcp://eu.zil.k1pool.com:1111
-w [3]Rig1RaveOsZilliqa
-u [3]KrZPGTQtNfTXe6HccJ67GmRZBDBZQXTVWXW
--lock-cclock [1]1680
--cclock [1]200
--mclock [1]1000
--lock-cclock [3]1300
--mclock [3]1000

==== Windows====

rigel.exe -a fishhash+sha256ton+zil ^
-o [1]stratum+tcp://iron.kryptex.network:7777 -u [1]986b2c70586713d168539f180313031c365a4ed0a233ad8255ccfd29aaeea6b6 ^
-o [2]stratum+tcp://stratum.hyperpool.pro:8040 -u [2]eaf89db7108470dc3f6b23eac0035a114556ff979292a49c1e6d8f5a17716c9a48c248cf5924 ^
-o [3]stratum+tcp://eu.zil.k1pool.com:1111 -u [3]KrZPGTQtNfTXe6HccJ67GmRZBDBZQXTVWXW ^
--lock-cclock [1]1680 --cclock [1]200 --mclock [1]1000 ^
--lock-cclock [3]1300 --mclock [3]1000 ^
-w rig1windows --log-file logs/miner.log

settings from YouTube video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyiMlHkqeqQ
The video is in Russian, but for miners I think there is no difference. With pictures, I can also look at them in Chinese

FP91G

legendary

Activity: 1834

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A new trend in triple mining
How to Mine Three Coins on 1 rig | I'll teach you in 5 minutes | ERGO + KAS + ZIL (Russian)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1AX3Otb2M4
At the present time, it is very difficult to find a big profit, but mining for the accumulation of 3 coins may be of interest to miners in the cold season.

fmz89

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Holy molly how stable it is? These keep remindme first time mining using multiple instance in same gpu till it crash, sometimes is ok and yeah 7970 series is my first gpu mining using cgminer script try to mining doge with multi instance Grin

, now this time real multimining is doable even maxing power consumption and gpu began to hot in tropical place

FP91G

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Activity: 1834

Merit: 1136

Quote from: sxemini on November 18, 2022, 08:29:17 AM

Quote from: FP91G on November 18, 2022, 05:10:38 AM

Quote from: sp_ on November 17, 2022, 02:04:54 PM

Example rtx 3080

100MHASH $0.24 ETC
+100MHASH $0.1845 ZIL
+Kaspa $0.17
------------------------------

You get $0.595 /day by tripplemining instead of $0.24 mining ETC only.

edit: checked the live prices today

a great example, only better to add a payback period. The price of the video card rtx 3080 is 1000-1200 dollars, and the profit per month
18-20 dollars.
1000/20=50 months, which is more than 4 years.
Mining can only be done if you have video cards and cheap electricity.

What? 1000 to 1200 dollar? For this price i get 3090 or 3090ti. Sorry but i pay around 650$ for used 3080 and new around 800$. But true, the payback time is to long.

I've been looking at new graphics cards, although prices vary by country.
650/20=32,5 months
I believe that the video card should pay off while its warranty is valid. If the warranty is over, then these are additional unnecessary risks.

sp_

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Team Black developer

Quote from: JayDDee on November 18, 2022, 12:55:59 PM

Also dual mining, when done right, should consume more power and produce more heat because it uses more of the GPU's resources.

Mining zil can increase your profit by 36%. In the latest Team Black Miner the dag switch is "free" bacause of caching. We also have the fastest dag generator at 2-3 secs on the rtx 3060ti. No other teams optimized the dag creation.. They never payed us to optimize the dag creation.. 555

3 seconds an hour is a 3.33% gain.

JayDDee

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Quote from: sp_ on November 18, 2022, 10:43:19 AM

Quote from: JayDDee on November 17, 2022, 04:41:08 PM

Mining Zil+Ethash or so is not profitswitching, call it interval mining. True you can´t mine 3 algos at the same time, for now. But the zil interval mining give you the chance to get more money.

Before the Merge everybody thought that the GPU miners would give up mining and ASIC's would take over, but GPU's are flexible. You mine ZIL with 100% hashrate, Ethereum Classic with 99% hashrate and the third non memory algo with 100% hashrate. With only 1/3 of the income in ethereum classic, gpu's can still co-exist with the ASIC miners.

Non memory algos use abit more power, so ETC+ZIL or ZIL standalone might be the best option.

POW is not dead, just different...

That was not my quote, it was from FP91G, but I agree with it.

You're stating the obvious. Of course GPUs are more flexible specifically because they run software programs. An ASIC can only run one program.

Also dual mining, when done right, should consume more power and produce more heat because it uses more of the GPU's resources.

sp_

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Team Black developer

Before the merge 100 000 workers (mining rigs) where mining on zergpool

2 months later

77000 rigs are still mining on zergpool.com (-23%)

For Ethereum, (-75%) of the miners have quit and the price has fallen more than 30%

sp_

legendary

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Team Black developer

Quote from: sxemini on November 18, 2022, 08:29:17 AM

What? 1000 to 1200 dollar? For this price i get 3090 or 3090ti. Sorry but i pay around 650$ for used 3080 and new around 800$. But true, the payback time is to long.

Buyers market now, but still not worth it..

Quote from: JayDDee on November 17, 2022, 04:41:08 PM

Mining Zil+Ethash or so is not profitswitching, call it interval mining. True you can´t mine 3 algos at the same time, for now. But the zil interval mining give you the chance to get more money.

Before the Merge everybody thought that the GPU miners would give up mining and ASIC's would take over, but GPU's are flexible. You mine ZIL with 100% hashrate, Ethereum Classic with 99% hashrate and the third non memory algo with 100% hashrate...

And with only 1/3 of the income in ethereum classic, gpu's can still co-exist with the ASIC miners.

Non memory algos use abit more power, so ETC+ZIL or ZIL standalone might be the best option.

POW is not dead, just different...

sxemini

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Quote from: FP91G on November 18, 2022, 05:10:38 AM

Quote from: sp_ on November 17, 2022, 02:04:54 PM

Example rtx 3080

100MHASH $0.24 ETC
+100MHASH $0.1845 ZIL
+Kaspa $0.17
------------------------------

You get $0.595 /day by tripplemining instead of $0.24 mining ETC only.

edit: checked the live prices today

a great example, only better to add a payback period. The price of the video card rtx 3080 is 1000-1200 dollars, and the profit per month
18-20 dollars.
1000/20=50 months, which is more than 4 years.
Mining can only be done if you have video cards and cheap electricity.

What? 1000 to 1200 dollar? For this price i get 3090 or 3090ti. Sorry but i pay around 650$ for used 3080 and new around 800$. But true, the payback time is to long.

Quote from: JayDDee on November 17, 2022, 04:41:08 PM

Quote from: sp_ on November 17, 2022, 02:04:54 PM

You are wrong.

No I'm not. Triple mining is mining 3 algos simultaneously with the same device. Your example is just dual mining with profit switching.

Mining Zil+Ethash or so is not profitswitching, call it interval mining. True you can´t mine 3 algos at the same time, for now. But the zil interval mining give you the chance to get more money.

sp_

legendary

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Team Black developer

If the card is configured to use 260 watt's you earn money if your el price is cheaper that $0.106837607 KWh.

EX.

With $0.05 power cost, triple mining is still profitable. 2x income of the power spent. But with ETC single mining, there is no profit even with $0.05 power. ZIL standalone mining is a good option for ppl with expensive power.

FP91G

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Quote from: sp_ on November 17, 2022, 02:04:54 PM

Example rtx 3080

100MHASH $0.24 ETC
+100MHASH $0.1845 ZIL
+Kaspa $0.17
------------------------------

You get $0.595 /day by tripplemining instead of $0.24 mining ETC only.

edit: checked the live prices today

a great example, only better to add a payback period. The price of the video card rtx 3080 is 1000-1200 dollars, and the profit per month
18-20 dollars.
1000/20=50 months, which is more than 4 years.
Mining can only be done if you have video cards and cheap electricity.

JayDDee

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Quote from: sp_ on November 17, 2022, 02:04:54 PM

You are wrong.

No I'm not. Triple mining is mining 3 algos simultaneously with the same device. Your example is just dual mining with profit switching.

sp_

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Quote from: JayDDee on November 16, 2022, 11:37:28 PM

Triple mining seems like going too far, like too many blades on a razor.
(...)
But I just don't see a case for 3 algos. All 3 would have to be somewhat profitable and not compete with each other for resources.

You are wrong. There are POW coins that can be mined for 1 minute every hour or so. Like Zilliqa. If you mine it standalone, the computer will sleep for 1 hour until the POW start, and then mine 100% for 1-2 minutes, then sleep.... If you mine ETC+ZIL 59minutes of ETC mining and 1 minute of zilmining.Then you can add kaspa with the opensource miner for tripple mining.

Example rtx 3080

100MHASH $0.24 ETC
+100MHASH $0.1845 ZIL
+Kaspa $0.17
------------------------------

You get $0.595 /day by tripplemining instead of $0.24 mining ETC only.

edit: checked the live prices today

devil2man

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It is an excellent possibility to mine 3 different altcoins but in my opinion if they are not similar to each other (same blockchain?) there is a risk that it will be lost, disperse power in terms of hashrate

FP91G

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Quote from: adaseb on November 17, 2022, 12:44:18 AM

I remember back in 2017 or 2018 I would actually triple mine.

Main coin was ETH
Second coin was SiaCoin
Third coin was Zcash (or Zcoin or something similar) which was CPU mineable at the time.

The way the Zcoin was designed was that a cheap Celeron processor hashed at the same speed as an i7 CPU. So the goal was to have as many rigs mining as possible.

Then there were a lot of interesting coins, and miners bought 6-8 core AMD processors for use on a mining farm in order to get the maximum profit. For 7-9 months, investments in the processor paid off. But all good and profitable ends quickly. Then these overheated processors were sold at flea markets.

adaseb

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I remember back in 2017 or 2018 I would actually triple mine.

Main coin was ETH
Second coin was SiaCoin
Third coin was Zcash (or Zcoin or something similar) which was CPU mineable at the time.

The way the Zcoin was designed was that a cheap Celeron processor hashed at the same speed as an i7 CPU. So the goal was to have as many rigs mining as possible.

JayDDee

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Triple mining seems like going too far, like too many blades on a razor.

The original theory for dual mining was to choose a second algo that was complimemtary to the first in that they would demand different resources
and increase total throughput. The typical example is an memory bound algo paired with a compute bound algo. Working together would increase
the GPU utilisation and theoretically increase revenue.

Dual mining became a necessity with LHR. The secondary algo was used as a decoy to disable LHR increasing the hash rate of the primary algo as
well as producing its own revenue as a bonus.

For dual mining to work in the original case both algos have to be worthy of mining on their own. It's less important for LHR because the main
goal was to unlock the primary algo.

But I just don't see a case for 3 algos. All 3 would have to be somewhat profitable and not compete with each other for resources.

sxemini

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Quote from: FP91G on November 16, 2022, 02:39:38 AM

POM+KASPA+ZIL
miner setup in HIVEOS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORyACOqqwHk
Useful video from 1:08
The video is in Russian, but the setup principle is clear even without a translator.

Triple mining eth+zil+kaspa : r/EtherMining
https://www.reddit.com/r/EtherMining/comments/xdhgrz/triple_mining_ethzilkaspa/
For winter, a good enough option to accumulate 3 coins

Yeah is possible for long time. BZminer is the only miner for real triple mining with 3 different pools, but the overall hashrates are to slow. But i use it for mining with iGPU´s (only for fun) Cheesy

Hopefully the BZminer dev can improve his kernels or he get some kernels from wolf again Grin

In my opinion triple mining over a Zil proxy and lolminer or teamredminer is the best choice

FP91G

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POM+KASPA+ZIL
miner setup in HIVEOS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORyACOqqwHk
Useful video from 1:08
The video is in Russian, but the setup principle is clear even without a translator.

Triple mining eth+zil+kaspa : r/EtherMining
https://www.reddit.com/r/EtherMining/comments/xdhgrz/triple_mining_ethzilkaspa/
For winter, a good enough option to accumulate 3 coins

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