Topic: Trump Demands All Jan 6 Detainees Be Released From Prison After Tucker Carlson.. (Read 941 times)

Wow look at that I can buy 2 lbs of no salt added mac and cheese plus a half pound of salt for $65.  All health ranger approved! What a deal!

You just don't get it, do you. When the video first came out, it WAS an 'EXPLOSIVE: New video...'. Just because somebody decided to re-post the article info, and the video, doesn't mean it's new now. Didn't you even see the part where I said that the video has been around for a while? How in the world dense can you get? Don't answer that. We've seen enough density already.

Gee I wonder why they would post an article with headline EXPLOSIV: New video shows.... for a video that came out 6 months ago and act like the cop walking down the side walk and not planting a bomb is proof that he planted the bomb.

Your brain is what's been supressed.

This video has been around for a while. Is it fake, inconclusive, or suppressed?


EXPLOSIVE: New video shows DC police PLANTED J6 pipe bomb that FBI blamed on conservative extremists

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https://www.naturalnews.com/2024-08-20-video-dc-police-planted-j6-pipe-bomb.html
Newly released CCTV surveillance video blows a hole in the claim that conservative extremists were responsible for planting at least one of the pipe bombs that went off at DNC and RNC headquarters during the Jan. 6, 2021, "insurrection."

Shortly after 12:51 pm the day of, a Washington, D.C. police SUV appeared next to a park bench where one of the bombs was later discovered. A man is seen exiting the SUV with a bag before pointing to the bench and pulling up his right coat collar to disguise his face from surveillance cameras – watch below.

Less than 15 minutes later at 1:05 pm, the pipe bomb was discovered by a plainclothes officer from the Capitol Police.

(Related: Check out our earlier report about the faux "investigation" into the pipe bombs by the FBI.)

Political dinosaurs behind pipe bomb false flag

Now that we know local law enforcement was behind the planting of this pipe bomb, the question remains as to why it was planted in the first place. Was it a threat against those who wanted the January 6 certification of electors challenged?

Many of the usual suspects in Congress were apparently behind this, including Nancy Pelosi, Kevin McCarthy, Chuck Schumer, Mitch McConnell and Mike Pence. These political dinosaurs did not want Americans learning the truth that 85 million Americans did not vote for Joe Biden as the official tally suggests.
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Quite honestly I wonder whether Trump actually cares for his followers and would get out his way to pardon those who committed federal crimes in the grounds of the capitol, to be honest. And to be frank, I would not be surprised if Trump suddenly decided (after becoming president again) not to pardon those who have been convicted. Why?
Because he would have nothing else to earn for it... the promise of a massive pardon to those people certainly id good for him to fire up his base and make them to vote for him, but after the election is won and he has other things to worry about, it is in the end up to him to tske the first step.

I wonder what people like BD would think of Trump in the case he fails to pardon those people in a federal prison. would there be any justification at all at that point or not?

Do you think Trump should pardon this guy, who was recorded by dozens of people committing each of the crimes he was convicted of:

You and Vod seem to have missed that I said, "If somebody does damage, make him pay for the damage." If the crimes were there, make them pay for the crime, not for some greatly exaggerated crime.

WASHINGTON – A North Carolina man was sentenced today for assaulting law enforcement officers with a dangerous weapon – chemical spray – during the breach of the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021. His actions and the actions of others disrupted a joint session of the U.S. Congress convened to ascertain and count the electoral votes related to the 2020 presidential election.

            Aiden Henry Bilyard, 20, of Cary, North Carolina, was sentenced to 40 months in prison for assaulting MPD officers using a dangerous weapon. Bilyard pleaded guilty on October 20, 2022, in the District of Columbia. In addition to the prison term, U.S. District Court Judge Reggie B. Walton ordered 36 months of supervised release, and $3,500 in restitution.

            According to court documents, on Jan. 6, 2021, at approximately 2:35 p.m., Bilyard was among a crowd of rioters illegally gathered in the Upper West Plaza of the Capitol grounds. He carried a gold-colored canister of “home defense pepper gel.” Bilyard pointed the nozzle of the canister at officers who were attempting to prevent the mob from proceeding further towards the Capitol Building. He then discharged the chemical irritant towards the group of officers. Immediately after he sprayed the irritant, Bilyard and other rioters overwhelmed the police line, causing the officers to retreat through a stairwell to the Lower West Terrace.

            Bilyard also went to the Lower West Terrace. At approximately 4:10 p.m., he was in a group of rioters massed in front of a glass window to the Capitol Building. While there, he encouraged an individual who was striking the window with what a metal tomahawk. Bilyard was handed a bat, which he used to shatter the lower glass portion of the window. He then turned to face the crowd and clapped and shouted in an act of encouragement for people to start entering the building. Bilyard also entered the Capitol by crawling through the window that he had shattered.

The government isn't lumping a bunch of people together and sending them to prison.  Did you really think they were just treating everyone as if they committed the same crime?  

If the prosecution is able to secure a conviction (either by trial or guilty plea), a judge decides the sentence based on the crimes they were convicted of, any criminal history, their behavior throughout the process, etc.  In other words, they make the repayment fit the crime.

So far there have been about 1400 arrests and 927 of them have plead guilty, been found guilty by trial, and sentenced.

Almost 40% of the 927 received zero prison time.

Of the other 60% that have been sentenced to prison, the median sentence has been 180 days (that means 50% of the sentences have been less than 180 days).


You gotta stop falling for the right wing media rage bait.  

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You gotta stop falling for the right wing media rage bait.  

^^^ You still don't get it. People are free to talk in the US. What counts is harm or damage.

If somebody does damage, make him pay for the damage. Don't simply lump a bunch of people together and send them to prison for a couple of years. Make the repayment fit the crime.

The general in the army doesn't order every soldier. There are many different levels of command. Often the general doesn't even know what his various commanding officers are commanding.

In addition, if the private doesn't listen to or know what the general wants done, how can he do it but by accident? In addition, if he thinks that the general ordered something because he was told such by a leading commander, what should he do? Does he do what is best?

You keep on trying to confuse the issue, and failing at it. In fact, seems that you have been failing at it for years here in Bitcointalk.

Sure seems like it was a planned thing...You really think the FBI would try and help Trump overthrow the government?  And even if one of the agencies that Trump controlled tried to help him overthrow the government, how does that excuse the hundreds of people that assaulted cops and attacked the capital?

Ahh.  In the real world the the FBI falls under the Executive branch, which is run by the President - which means during the J6 inssurection the FBI was in it's fourth year of being Trumps responsibility.  

Is pelosi the president in BADeckerville?  Or does the country just have a different constitution?

Pelosi!

If that's the case, I hope whoever had the responsibility of leading whichever branch of government the FBI falls under in BADeckerville is held accountable.  Sounds like they must be either a weak or corrupt leader to allow this to happen - probably both.

Any idea who that might be?

 

No, the FBI wasn't ordered to help Trump. Do you really think that the Jan 6 prisoners are helping Trump? Well, maybe they are in a kinda backwards way.

The FBI was sent in to cause the Jan 6 problem, so that people could be arrested and imprisoned as they have been, so that Trump's name could be dragged through the mud. It backfired. Trump has become more popular than ever, partly because people recognize the sham trial that was held against the Jan 6 people.

Sure seems like it was a planned thing...You really think the FBI would try and help Trump overthrow the government?  And even if one of the agencies that Trump controlled tried to help him overthrow the government, how does that excuse the hundreds of people that assaulted cops and attacked the capital?

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The point is, the Jan 6 disturbing of the peace was NOT a planned thing. Nor was it asked for by Trump or the militias across the US. If it happened at all, it was spontaneous, and FBI promoted...

Do you hope they let this guy out?


Would you consider this guy a political prisoner and victim of the Biden regime?


How about this guy?



Hundreds more where that came from.  Cool field trip.

The point is, the Jan 6 disturbing of the peace was NOT a planned thing. Nor was it asked for by Trump or the militias across the US. If it happened at all, it was spontaneous, and FBI promoted... so that there would be an excuse for the thing that has happened... prosecutions. The whole thing was done by the Deep State intentionally to make Trump look bad. Why would they want to make Trump look bad? Because THEY, the Deep State, are evil, and Trump is bringing them down.

“Either Trump gets off his ass and uses the insurrection Act to defeat the ChiCom puppet coup or we will have to rise up in insurrection (rebllion) against the ChiCom puppet Biden, Take your pick.”

Elmer Stewart Rhodes III, 58, of Granbury, Texas, the founder and leader of the Oath Keepers, and Kelly Meggs, 54, of Dunnellon, Florida, the leader of the Florida chapter of the organization, were sentenced today for seditious conspiracy and other charges related to the breach of the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021. Their actions disrupted a joint session of the U.S. Congress that was in the process of ascertaining and counting the electoral votes related to the presidential election.

Rhodes was sentenced to 18 years in prison followed by three years of supervised release. His is the longest sentence, to date, related to the assault on law enforcement and the U.S. Capitol Building.

Meggs was sentenced to 12 years in prison followed by three years of supervised release.

“Today’s sentences reflect the grave threat the actions of these defendants posed to our democratic institutions,” said Attorney General Merrick B. Garland. “The United States proved at trial that the Oath Keepers plotted for months to violently disrupt the peaceful transfer of power from one administration to the next. The Justice Department will continue to do everything in our power to hold accountable those criminally responsible for the January 6th attack on our democracy.”

“Today’s sentencings reflect the FBI’s commitment to do our part to hold accountable individuals who committed criminal acts on January 6, 2021, as well as those who plotted to interfere with the lawful transfer of power,” said FBI Director Christopher Wray. “We will continue to work with our partners to bring to justice those who violated our laws in connection with the siege on the U.S. Capitol.”

“There have been few instances in our nation’s history when our fellow citizens have engaged in a seditious conspiracy — a conspiracy to use force to oppose the functioning of our government,” said U.S. Attorney Matthew M. Graves for the District of Columbia. “More people were convicted of seditious conspiracy in connection with the siege of the Capitol on January 6, 2021, than any other criminal event since the statute was enacted during the Civil War. Today’s sentencing affirms the rule of law and imposes substantial consequences on Stewart Rhodes and Kelly Meggs who, together, conspired to violently attack our government and our democracy.”

Rhodes and Meggs were found guilty on Nov. 29, 2022, following an eight-week trial and three days of deliberations. In addition to the seditious conspiracy charge, Rhodes was convicted of obstruction of an official proceeding and tampering with documents and proceedings. Meggs was also found guilty of conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding, obstruction of an official proceeding, conspiracy to prevent an officer from discharging duties, and tampering with documents or proceedings.

According to the government’s evidence, the Oath Keepers are a large but loosely organized collection of individuals, some of whom are associated with militias. Following the Nov. 3, 2020, presidential election, Rhodes, Meggs, and others began plotting to oppose, by force, the lawful transfer of presidential power. Beginning in late December 2020, via encrypted and private communications applications, Rhodes, Meggs, and others coordinated and planned to travel to Washington, D.C., on or around Jan. 6, 2021, the date of the certification of the electoral college vote.

The defendants also, collectively, employed a variety of manners and means, including: organizing into teams that were prepared and willing to use force and to transport firearms and ammunition into Washington, D.C.; recruiting members and affiliates; organizing trainings to teach and learn paramilitary combat tactics; bringing and contributing paramilitary gear, weapons, and supplies – including knives, batons, camouflaged combat uniforms, tactical vests with plates, helmets, eye protection, and radio equipment – to the Capitol grounds; breaching and attempting to take control of the Capitol grounds and building on Jan. 6, 2021, in an effort to prevent, hinder and delay the certification of the electoral college vote; using force against law enforcement officers while inside the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021; continuing to plot, after Jan. 6, 2021, to oppose by force the lawful transfer of presidential power, and using websites, social media, text messaging and encrypted messaging applications to communicate with each other and others.

On Jan. 6, 2021, a large crowd began to gather outside the Capitol perimeter as the Joint Session of Congress got under way at 1 p.m. Crowd members eventually forced their way through, up, and over U.S. Capitol Police barricades and advanced to the building’s exterior façade. Shortly after 2 p.m., crowd members forced entry into the Capitol by breaking windows, ramming open doors, and assaulting Capitol police and other law enforcement officers. At about this time, according to the government’s evidence, Rhodes entered the restricted area of the Capitol grounds and directed his followers to meet him at the Capitol.

At approximately 2:30 p.m., according to the government’s evidence, Meggs, along with other Oath Keepers and affiliates – many wearing paramilitary clothing and patches with the Oath Keepers name, logo, and insignia – marched in a “stack” formation up the east steps of the Capitol, joined a mob, and made their way into the Capitol. Rhodes remained outside, coordinating activities.

While certain Oath Keepers members and affiliates breached the Capitol grounds and building, others remained stationed just outside of the city in quick reaction force (QRF) teams. According to the government’s evidence, the QRF teams were prepared to rapidly transport firearms and other weapons into Washington, D.C., in support of operations aimed at using force to stop the lawful transfer of presidential power.

Rhodes was arrested on Jan. 13, 2022, in Texas. Meggs was arrested on Feb. 17, 2021, in Florida.

The U.S. Attorney’s Office for the District of Columbia and the Justice Department’s National Security and Criminal Divisions are prosecuting the case. Valuable assistance was provided by numerous U.S. Attorneys’ Offices throughout the country.

The case is being investigated by the FBI Washington Field Office with valuable assistance provided by numerous FBI offices throughout the country, including the Dallas, Cincinnati, Tampa, Jacksonville, and Richmond Field Offices.

In the 28 months since Jan. 6, 2021, more than 1,000 individuals have been arrested in nearly all 50 states for crimes related to the breach of the U.S. Capitol, including more than 320 individuals charged with assaulting or impeding law enforcement. The investigation remains ongoing.

What is happening today makes J6 look like a field trip. I really hope they let those J6 folks out of prison and I think people who have been pushing the J6 was the worst thing ever narrative need to take a long look at themselves and what they’re trying to encourage for the future of our country.

Kenneth Bonawitz
57 years old
Pompano Beach, Florida
On Jan. 6, 2021, Kenneth Bonawitz assaulted multiple police officers on Capitol grounds, according to court documents. Shortly after 2:30 pm that day, he was one of the first rioters to push through a line of officers on the West Front of the building. Bonawitz wore an eight-inch hunting knife in a nylon sheath attached to his hip. According to the FBI, he threw himself over two law enforcements officials, tackling them to the ground, and injuring one officer’s neck and shoulder. An MPD sergeant then saw and removed his knife and escorted him back into the crowd. But, court documents allege, Bonawitz kept coming back and engaging officers, wrapping his arms around one and inserting his forearm under her face shield, and briefly lifting her off the ground. He also swung and knocked another officer, hitting him near his face and causing him to fall. He hit a fifth officer in his abdomen. He continued to assault additional officers in the altercation.

Riley D. Kasper
23 years old
Green Bay, Wisconsin
Prosecutors allege that Riley Kasper sprayed an aerosol, which they allege was pepper spray, toward law enforcement officers at the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021. A confidential source sent the FBI screenshots from Kasper’s Facebook on Jan. 7, 2021, in which Kasper allegedly captioned a photo: “Trump rally Washington, D.C.!” According to court documents, a judge later authorized a search warrant to Facebook for Kasper’s account, which yielded several private messages. Prosecutors say Kasper wrote: “I pepper sprayed 3 cops so bad they got undressed and went home” and also “there is definitely something satisfying about pepper spraying cops in riot gear and watching them run from you like a b****.” Kasper’s Facebook also allegedly included a video that shows him wearing a gray patterned jacket, a camouflage face mask and head covering, and a tan camouflage backpack. These clothes are consistent, the FBI says, with YouTube videos and body-worn camera footage from the pepper spray incident. Prosecutors say they compared images from YouTube to booking photos from Kasper’s previous arrests, as well as to his driver’s license photo. The confidential source and a family member of Kasper’s each positively identified him in photos from the Capitol. Kasper was arrested in March of 2022.

Aiden Henry Bilyard
19 years old
Cary, North Carolina
Court documents say that Aiden Bilyard helped break one of the windows through which many people, including Bilyard, breached the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021. Bilyard can allegedly be seen in multiple images from that day — some of them show a young man with long, dirty-blond hair, wearing a black jacket over a gray hoodie that appears to read “Harvard.” Later, Bilyard was dubbed #HarvardSweats by the online group Sedition Hunters, which sought to identify some of the people who breached the Capitol that day. According to the charging documents, Bilyard was among the throng of rioters clutching a large gold canister of what is believed to be “bear spray,” which he sprayed at a group of police officers trying to secure the building. An officer who was on the receiving end of that spray found himself incapacitated by it. Later in the afternoon, Bilyard is allegedly seen in video footage egging on another rioter who's trying to break a window of the Capitol. According to court documents, Bilyard was handed a bat, shattered the window and entered a Senate room through the broken window.

It turns out that two of the major witnesses, police people, were not in the locations that they said they were, under oath. They could not have seen what they saw.

there is no evidence of a planned insurrection

-- "The answer must be to refuse to accept, acknowledge, respect, or obey any of these imposters or their pretend legislation ... and get your gear squared away and ready to fight." - Nov. 7, 2020 text message from Rhodes to a group of Oath Keepers.
-- "Trump has one last chance, right now, to stand. But he will need us and our rifles too. But will he FINALLY act? Only if WE act and call him to lead us." - Nov. 7, 2020 in a text message from Rhodes to a group of Oath Keepers.
-- "I'm gonna go on a killing spree." "Pelosi first." - Nov. 3, 2020 consecutive text messages from Kelly Meggs in a family chat.
-- "If you fail to do your duty, you will leave We the People no choice but to walk in the founders footsteps, by declaring the regime illegitimate, incapable of representing us, destructive of the just ends of government - to secure our liberty. And, like the founding generation, we will take to arms in defense of our God-given liberty." - December 2020 open letter posted online from Rhodes to then-President Trump.
-- "Proud boys scuffled with cops and drove them inside to hide. Breached the doors. One guy made it all the way to the house floor, another to Pelosi's office. A good time. We need to do this at the local level. Lets storm the capitol in Ohio." - Jan. 7, 2021 Facebook message from Thomas Caldwell to Donovan Crowl, an Oath Keeper charged in a separate criminal case.
-- "If we'd had guns I guarantee we would have killed 100 politicians. They ran off and were spirited away through their underground tunnels like the rats they were." - private message sent by Thomas Caldwell on Jan. 6, 2021 to someone named Jonathan.
-- "Show the world who the traitors are, and then use the (Insurrection Act) to drop the hammer on them. And all of us veterans who swore that oath, until you're age 65, you can be called up as the militia to support and defend the constitution ... He needs to know from you, that you are with him. That if he does not do it now, while he is commander in chief, we are going to have to do it ourselves later, in a much more desperate, much more bloody war. Let's get it on now, while he is still the commander in chief." - Rhodes in a speech prior to the Jan. 6, 2021 attack on the Capitol.
-- "We will have many balls in the air. I have been so busy on back-channel groups trying to advise the president." - Stewart Rhodes in a December 2020 text discussing logistics ahead of Jan. 6 with a group of Oath Keepers.
-- "Push, push, push! Get in there. They can't hold us." - Oath Keepers defendant Jessica Watkins, speaking to other members of the group inside the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021 as they breached a police line protecting the U.S. Senate chamber.
-- "I don't believe in anything. I'm just here for the violence," - writing on a patch that defendant Kelly Meggs wore on his shirt on the day of the Jan. 6, 2021 attack.
-- "It begins for real Jan 5 and 6 on Washington D.C. when we mobilize in the streets. Let them try to certify some crud on capitol hill with a million or more patriots in the streets. This kettle is set to boil." - defendant Thomas Caldwell, in a Facebook message on Jan. 1, 2021.
-- "We aren’t getting through this without a civil war. Too late for that. Prepare your mind, body, spirit," Stewart Rhodes, in a Nov. 5, 2020 text to a group of Oath Keepers.

And what is this new evidence for anyone who doesn't want to spend 30 minutes watching infowars?

When I click on "Read the full story", it just links me to the same video with this underneath it:

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Seems that the Jan 6 prisoners will serve much of their term by the time somebody shows them innocent. But Stewart Rhodes is gradually doing it. The result when the J6 people are found innocent will be big payouts from government for wrongful incarceration. Trump might see that they are paid.


Stewart Rhodes' Lawyer Lays Out New Evidence That May Reverse J6 Convictions

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https://banned.video/watch?id=66996bc914875f4fe136eab5
Ed Tarpley is a criminal defense attorney in Alexandria, Louisiana, who served as district attorney for the 35th Judicial District, Grant Parish, and was a Delegate to the 2016 Republican National Convention. Follow him on X @EdTarpley.
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How ironic!


Ray Epps' Daughter Has an Addendum for Thomas Massie's List of Presidential Pledges

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https://thelibertydaily.com/ray-epps-daughter-has-addendum-thomas-massies-list/
Congressman Thomas Massie called for presidential candidates to make three pledges:

• Free Assange

• Pardon Snowden

• Release Ross

These are all reasonable requests, though there's no chance Joe Biden would accept them.

One comment caught Massie's attention with an addendum to the list. Tiffany Jones, the daughter of January 6 provocateur Ray Epps, chimed in by calling for her father to be locked up.

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Tiffany Epps (Jones)
@Tiffanyjones316
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And what about the protestors who have already been tried in court and been found guilty of all kind of charges, like trespassing, destruction/theft of federal property or those few who were actually found guilty of sedition against the government of the United States?

Should the American Justice just to say: "Okey, sorry". And let them to walk out free, ignoring the legal procedure that took place?

Those who committed federal crimes on that day are just better off waiting for the possibility of Trump coming back and singing a pardon for them instead, sounds more appropriate.

Read some of the news and i dont know what to say really, although some may actually be innocent but what about the others that committed the crime, should they just go unpunished for their actions and if they do what kind of justice would that be for so many others that have been punished for crimes like this, I think if this must happen it should not be without proper percussion of each person in the court and let the law determine who woudl go unpunished or not even if I know that the law cam be very partial at times but I think it's better than letting everyone go.

Read some of the news and i dont know what to say really, although some may actually be innocent but what about the others that committed the crime, should they just go unpunished for their actions and if they do what kind of justice would that be for so many others that have been punished for crimes like this, I think if this must happen it should not be without proper percussion of each person in the court and let the law determine who woudl go unpunished or not even if I know that the law cam be very partial at times but I think it's better than letting everyone go.

If you use your brain just a littttle bit more you would realize that:

A) Trump didn't need to ask anyone's permission to activate the national guard.  Especially the DC national guard.  The decision was his to make.  Not the speaker of the house, not the Mayor of DC.   If Trump decided he wanted to activate the National Guard before the insurrection, that's what he would have done.

B) Trump wanted his angry Magatards to march to the capital and stop Pence from certifying the election.  "Fight like hell or you won't have a country any more"....remember that?  The national guard would have only made it less likely that he was able to steal the election and stay in power - so it would be a pretty stupid thing to do from his perspective.

Do you realize that you are implying that if the riots on January 6th within the Capitol building would have not happened the results of the elections would have been overturned? That does not make sense to me, how was that supposed to happen?
If those Trump protestors/rioters/demostrators had not been there that day, some lawmakers within the house and the senate would have simply rejected the results of those states Trump isntructed them to and then they would have gone through hours and hours and debate and a final vote, which would have ended with the results being accepted, moving onto the next state and so on.
The objective of the riot was to interrupt the process or even seek and destroy the state ballots cast by the electors and signed by the governors of the contested states.

I do not know anything that that woman you talk about who was unfairly arrested so I won't comment on it.

Also, if Trump was the president at the time and he had power over the FBI, how come he could not prevent agents to be among the crowd ? You talk as if the FBI was an arm of the Democrat party when in reality they respond to the President, which was Trump.
Instead Trump trying to figure out what happened that afternoon, he spent the last days of his first term playing golf in Florida, when he could easily find out and expose whether there was inflitration in Jan 6th or not.  

To me, one of the most disturbing parts of Jan 6 is the unfairness against the victims, the so-called rioters. For example, Simone Gold of America's Frontline Doctors was giving a medical speech from the Capitol steps, where she had permission to do so, and she spent 60 days in jail for doing something she had permission to do. But even if she didn't have direct permission, she wasn't involved in any disturbance, just like most of them.

In addition, though you can't easily find info on it, there were in the range of 200 FBI agents aggravating the Jan 6 crowd. Are they in prison? No.

In addition, the sentences are way more than somebody should get for just being there.

In addition, Pelosi wouldn't authorize proper security which would have easily dissuaded the few people who actually did the rioting.

The whole Jan 6 thing was a combination of lies, a setup, and inappropriate sentencing. The only reason for it was to extend the election fraud to keep Trump from winning. The results of Trump not being in office are many. But one of the biggest is that about 600,000 soldiers have died in the Ukraine/Russia war... simply because Biden and evil Dems in Congress sent money and armament to Ukraine to extend a war that would have been over shortly if they hadn't sent it.

You might think that what Russia did was wrong and bad. But do you really think it was bad enough that Biden and the Dems should have caused the deaths of all those soldiers? And now they are going to lose Ukraine anyway. All because they cheated big time in the 2020 election.

To me one of the most disturbing parts of this kind of arguments and discussions about those who are in prison because of the things they did in January 6th is how everyone talks about them as they were the victims of all this mess and nobody seems to mention or even remember those capitol officers who literally committed suicide short after defending the Capitol from a mob. It only shows how degenerate the world of polítics in the west can be.
You get a job as an officer to try to better your life after years of mental struggle, so you can start to pay for your medication and your health mental care and then something as traumatic as the capitol attack happens that you just decided you do not want to live anymore.
Meanwhile, lawmakers of the Republican party cry and mourn for people who could be the same who physically assaulted hose who committed suicide.

How people is supposed to believe the Republican party is serious and actually care about the life of the average American citizen if they are willing to overlook all of it? Very disgusting and disturbing.

That's funny.

Real world:
A police officer at the capital while it was being attacked ends up barricaded in an office protecting a bunch of Senators for hours.  He mentions in an interview that while barricaded in the office they watched the live media coverage of the attack.


BADeckerville:

DC cop who sued nonviolent J6 protesters admits to CNN he was just watching the “riot” on TV

More and more there are videos and people coming out into the open who say that the riots weren't started or made to happen by Trump people.


DC cop who sued nonviolent J6 protesters admits to CNN he was just watching the “riot” on TV

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https://www.naturalnews.com/2023-12-31-cop-admits-just-watching-j6-riot-on-tv.html
Brandon Straka, a social media influencer who founded the "Walk Away" campaign to encourage people to leave the Democratic Party, revealed on X, formerly known as Twitter, that Washington D.C. officer Byron Evans admitted on CNN that he was not actually at the Capitol when the J6 "riot" happened.

In the interview, the CNN reporter described Evans' experience of watching the protest on television from a secure location for hours. "I just remember the anger I felt when I saw those images. Busting windows, climbing the walls and stuff like that. It was an audible gasp in the room," Evans admitted.

The cop and seven others sued former liberal Straka and other former President Donald Trump supporters under the KKK Act for "racist" attacks back on Jan. 6, 2021. Straka said in the social media post that they sued him, "alleging that I am a racist and a white supremacist and that I bore responsibility for their injuries."
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If this is a conflict of interest worthy of recusal then Trump should have no problem shopping around until all four of his criminal cases are being run by judges that he appointed.  


Fun fact (irrelevant to Trumps criminal case):  Fusion GPS was contracted to do oppo research on Trump during the primaries by conservatives (almost certainly Ted Cruz). Hillary just took over the contract after Trump won the nomination.

Well he didn't urge people to be peaceful until after they failed at overthrowing the government.  Also the government didn't plant agents in the crowd to start a riot.  Dummy.

It is pretty crazy that Trump urged people to be peaceful, asked the government to send the national guard to keep things orderly, yet he’s being threatened with jail for his actions. Meanwhile the government planted agents in the crowd to start a riot and Democrat politicians denied additional forces to keep the peace, yet it is Trump that the country is being told did bad. We are living in bizarro world.

Referring to Tucker Carlson's edited videos is just nonsensical.

If there are footage of people not committing crimes, that isn't a proof of people being innocent. Serial killers can have footage of them being calm and not committing crimes because no one commits crimes 24/7. That footage doesn't cancel any crimes and it would be laughed out from any court if someone tried to use it as some sort of weird "evidence".

Not to mention that Tucker Carlson is a proven liar.

I would like to have a link to said footage. As of now we have several killed, obvious images of people carrying weapons and means of destruction, layers stating they do not know how to be lawyers and someone who could have called it out and did not. A link to a media showing 5 or 6 pictures of Trump in an article, but not the core information or a link to it makes little sense to this one.

https://twitter.com/greg_price11/status/1632912031882805250

"Qanon Shaman" got 4 years in prison for this.

Capitol police say the footage was turned over to his attorneys during the discovery process of the person's trial but his attorneys say they didn't review this footage. I'm sure his defense team didn't have time to review the thousands of hours of footage from hundreds of security cameras in order to exonerate their client so this guy is out of luck.

If his attorneys did not have access to the footage, then he would have grounds for an appeal from my understanding. Do we really expect the appellate courts to bother touching this hot mess?

And what about the protestors who have already been tried in court and been found guilty of all kind of charges, like trespassing, destruction/theft of federal property or those few who were actually found guilty of sedition against the government of the United States?

Should the American Justice just to say: "Okey, sorry". And let them to walk out free, ignoring the legal procedure that took place?

Those who committed federal crimes on that day are just better off waiting for the possibility of Trump coming back and singing a pardon for them instead, sounds more appropriate.

And what about the protestors who have already been tried in court and been found guilty of all kind of charges, like trespassing, destruction/theft of federal property or those few who were actually found guilty of sedition against the government of the United States?

Should the American Justice just to say: "Okey, sorry". And let them to walk out free, ignoring the legal procedure that took place?

Those who committed federal crimes on that day are just better off waiting for the possibility of Trump coming back and singing a pardon for them instead, sounds more appropriate.