With Bitcoin and Dollar, I can say apart, if it makes me hard to keep both of them in the same position. Trump and the dollar are not the same bureaucracy, and if we look at it already, we have a rising dollar, in short it was higher before Trump. That's why I can say that Trump has no effect.
With Trump coming, we can say that the dollar has risen one more level. I do not think bitcoin will have much effect on this increase.
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If Donald Trump had fought the Chinese economy, the Nikkei 225 2 would give very big losses to the launch, would it affect the bitcoin?
Okay, to the post above have there been fundamental relationship of BTC and $ , because as it happened last month, as dollar go higher, btc is going up too .?
In my opinion its gonna be a bully game, another down (-20usd) on btc perhaps then up +25usd.
In my opinion its gonna be a bully game, another down (-20usd) on btc perhaps then up +25usd.
Bitcoin doesn't depend from dollar. So in the case when dollar go down or high - bitcoin make it's own moves. As I saw dollar doesn't loose too much in it's price, it's just stopped to constantly grow to other currencies. And I'm sure that many countries where dollar costs a lot now will say - Thanks God!
Okay, to the post above have there been fundamental relationship of BTC and $ , because as it happened last month, as dollar go higher, btc is going up too .?
In my opinion its gonna be a bully game, another down (-20usd) on btc perhaps then up +25usd.
In my opinion its gonna be a bully game, another down (-20usd) on btc perhaps then up +25usd.
Bitcoin doesn't depend from dollar. So in the case when dollar go down or high - bitcoin make it's own moves. As I saw dollar doesn't loose too much in it's price, it's just stopped to constantly grow to other currencies. And I'm sure that many countries where dollar costs a lot now will say - Thanks God!
The correlation between oil and USD is close to 0%.
What % of total US debt are the Saudis holding?
And what is forcing USA to ever repay their debt?
In 2014 the Saudis had reserves of about $750bn, and it is safe to say much of that was held in US bonds. However, since the oil price collapsed from $130 to about $40, the Saudis have been selling their bonds. It is estimated that it dropped to $555bn by August 2016
It has probably dropped further since then. But their sales arn't having any effect on the dollar which has strengthened since 2014. It goes to prove that the big Wall Street bond funds are more important than overseas sovereign funds.
The correlation between oil and USD is close to 0%.
What % of total US debt are the Saudis holding?
And what is forcing USA to ever repay their debt?
The correlation between oil and USD is close to 0%.
What % of total US debt are the Saudis holding?
The answer is: It is too soon to tell.
First we need to see what a Trump budget has to tell us. If it is expansionary, then the Fed may raise rates faster than they were going to.
If interest rates rise in the US but not elsewhere, then the dollar will strengthen. People like holding their money in currencies where you can get interest.
So it all hinges on Trump's first budget, but he hasn't even got his Commerce secretaruy confirmed yet, so we have a while to wait.
First we need to see what a Trump budget has to tell us. If it is expansionary, then the Fed may raise rates faster than they were going to.
If interest rates rise in the US but not elsewhere, then the dollar will strengthen. People like holding their money in currencies where you can get interest.
So it all hinges on Trump's first budget, but he hasn't even got his Commerce secretaruy confirmed yet, so we have a while to wait.
Trump will make USD further decline because of this Muslim against policies and the only option left with US people will be to invest in Bitcoins. China and India already moving fastly towards bitcoins. We can safely assume bitcoin to be next real global currency.
Explain how anti-Muslim policies will drive the USD down? The majority sees them as a good thing.
Lol,
you know who owns oil?
That's right, not the Christians
The correlation between oil and USD is close to 0%.
Trump will make USD further decline because of this Muslim against policies and the only option left with US people will be to invest in Bitcoins. China and India already moving fastly towards bitcoins. We can safely assume bitcoin to be next real global currency.
Explain how anti-Muslim policies will drive the USD down? The majority sees them as a good thing.
Lol,
you know who owns oil?
That's right, not the Christians
Trump will make USD further decline because of this Muslim against policies and the only option left with US people will be to invest in Bitcoins. China and India already moving fastly towards bitcoins. We can safely assume bitcoin to be next real global currency.
Explain how anti-Muslim policies will drive the USD down? The majority sees them as a good thing.
We all know US Dollars is in its final stage as a Global Reserve Currency. Whatever trump does, he cannot change this situation.China and Russia are eagerly waiting to see the dollar collapse. As we see throughout the history, when there is a economic crisis, people rush to move their holdings into a much secured asset or commodity.Now, there are two chances for them, either gold or Bitcoin.Though gold has been there for centuries, it has also faced huge decline in price value in dollars.It cant be easily transformed from one place to other like currency.There remains the other option Bitcoin.Bitcoin will be their choice because of its finite supply and ability to increase its own value within its own technological advances.Many thousands of jobs and businesses will be made directly and indirectly based on Bitcoin technology over the next several years worldwide.Surely, Bitcoin will win by a very technical knockout.Definitely, its a great positive effect for Bitcoin.
Trump will make USD further decline because of this Muslim against policies and the only option left with US people will be to invest in Bitcoins. China and India already moving fastly towards bitcoins. We can safely assume bitcoin to be next real global currency.
we do not know to this day, because the price of bitcoin is not currently show a definite rise. the price of the dollar is also not known whether it will last, or if it's just temporary. but, if such it was, I think bitcoin prices will rise in a few days.
We all know US Dollars is in its final stage as a Global Reserve Currency. Whatever trump does, he cannot change this situation.China and Russia are eagerly waiting to see the dollar collapse. As we see throughout the history, when there is a economic crisis, people rush to move their holdings into a much secured asset or commodity.Now, there are two chances for them, either gold or Bitcoin.Though gold has been there for centuries, it has also faced huge decline in price value in dollars.It cant be easily transformed from one place to other like currency.There remains the other option Bitcoin.Bitcoin will be their choice because of its finite supply and ability to increase its own value within its own technological advances.Many thousands of jobs and businesses will be made directly and indirectly based on Bitcoin technology over the next several years worldwide.Surely, Bitcoin will win by a very technical knockout.Definitely, its a great positive effect for Bitcoin.
Dollar is going down again..
Is this positive for bitcoin price?
MOON ?
The dollar drop is just temporary and very less so I don't think it would have an affect on the bitcoin price, but if it does most likely it would make bitcoin drop a bit but nothing much because majority of bitcoin trades are in China. Is this positive for bitcoin price?
MOON ?
I really dont know whats the relation of dollar to bitcoin. How can bitcoin will surge its price when dollar drops its value? Bitcoin can turn into different currency. Not on dollars only. We can switch to other currency if we want to. Maybe if massive adoption of bitcoin occurs. Demand of fiat will weaken. Is that what you think?
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Since Bitcoin is not tied to any country, it's hard to tell if the US dollar will have a direct affect on the price of Bitcoin. I think the US economy in general may have an affect since it influences economies around the world.
But we always compare bitcoin price with dollars. Like 1 bitcoin is that much dollars. So if dollar value decreases, bitcoin will be worth more dollars and will be more stronger. It is however indirectly related.
bitcoin is affected by the power of the trades behind and the stupidity of those traders. look at yobit and the trump coin. they are still trying to pull that one out of their ass after being directly told that the private exchanges not only full dumped the coin, they denied its future inclusion in trade sessions, and, as the price falls, they are still trying to maintain a price above white-trash coin.
Since Bitcoin is not tied to any country, it's hard to tell if the US dollar will have a direct affect on the price of Bitcoin. I think the US economy in general may have an affect since it influences economies around the world.
Cyprus is an Euro country.
If Trump spends like there is no tomorrow, I wouldn't call US bonds secure. High inflation means bonds are worth less.
If Trump's budget is expansionary, they'll raise rates even faster. Other countries arn't raising rates, so the dollar will strengthen. It is as simple as parking your money where the interest rates are high but also secure.
If Trump spends like there is no tomorrow, I wouldn't call US bonds secure. High inflation means bonds are worth less.
Currency value is not the single factor that determines if the state of the country is strong or not. US Dollar going down or up is not the single factor that can cause bitcoin value to go up or down.
The only factor I deem worthy of being indicator of strength of currency is its purchasing power. Many small countries with weak economy adopted US dollar as their currency, for instance Cyprus is using GBP and Ecuador, El Salvador or Palau use USD.
Currency value is not the single factor that determines if the state of the country is strong or not. US Dollar going down or up is not the single factor that can cause bitcoin value to go up or down.
Just lik with precious metals reducing or climbing based on currency standard, it's acceptable to assume both and the latter will shoot up with the same circumstances.
It's unlikely to predict that it'll always be this way, just be sure to stick with the long term and adopt new technologies as they come in.
It's unlikely to predict that it'll always be this way, just be sure to stick with the long term and adopt new technologies as they come in.
Okay, to the post above have there been fundamental relationship of BTC and $ , because as it happened last month, as dollar go higher, btc is going up too .?
In my opinion its gonna be a bully game, another down (-20usd) on btc perhaps then up +25usd.
In my opinion its gonna be a bully game, another down (-20usd) on btc perhaps then up +25usd.
Dollar is going down again..
Is this positive for bitcoin price?
MOON ?
Is this positive for bitcoin price?
MOON ?
Maybe this has something to do with all the Anti-Trump protests in the USA.
I think that the US dollar has less influence over the bitcoin price,compared with the past few years.
Maybe so. They probably make it like Trump is going to make US economy worse just so he will look stupid to the people. He kinda look he is though
Too early to say he'd not make it. The guy is old enough in the business so he must have mastered economics already. 
Dollar is going down again..
How you will be sure about American dollars are going to down ? The new president will never let his own currency going down. Even there would be some strict formulation for better economy, but surely not long term basis. Dllars may get strong in long term.
Is this positive for bitcoin price?
As per fundamental relationship : if dollars goes down, bitcoin will find its up surge.
Trade war between USA and China,bitcoin up,taxing companys what are manufacturing out of USA,for example usa automakers suppliers are not in usa,so price will rise in USA,inflation,so fed will need rise rates,dollar up,on other hand it may cause problems on derivatives market,big.chaos
By my opinion dollar price is not importent for btc,last time we had high on dollar and rising btc price
More importent are regulatins of btc trading in China.It is positive becouse that way Cinise regulators are accepting bitcoins.If will longer stabilisation on 900$ i think we can see 1800$-2200$ .It will be crazy year for world
By my opinion dollar price is not importent for btc,last time we had high on dollar and rising btc price
More importent are regulatins of btc trading in China.It is positive becouse that way Cinise regulators are accepting bitcoins.If will longer stabilisation on 900$ i think we can see 1800$-2200$ .It will be crazy year for world
I believe USD will be stronger in this year because Trump wants the US to be great to overcome china so Bitcoin will be effected on the rising way.
No need to worry about this.
No need to worry about this.
after trump win in US president election
one month later US dollar is strong and incraese value, and bitcoin go the moon too
after trump inauguration US dollw is down price value, but bitcoin still incraese not down in follow dollar trend
one month later US dollar is strong and incraese value, and bitcoin go the moon too
after trump inauguration US dollw is down price value, but bitcoin still incraese not down in follow dollar trend
Dollar is going down again..
Is this positive for bitcoin price?
MOON ?
Is this positive for bitcoin price?
MOON ?
Maybe this has something to do with all the Anti-Trump protests in the USA.
I think that the US dollar has less influence over the bitcoin price,compared with the past few years.
I don't expect that dollar will go down I think that dollar will be an strong currency on next year, but with Trump all can change with a few tweets. If he don't stop using twitter like now, dollar can have an high volatibility against Rmb.
For now, I think that Rmb going down afects more the bitcoin price, than dollar.
For now, I think that Rmb going down afects more the bitcoin price, than dollar.
Dollar is going down again..
Is this positive for bitcoin price?
MOON ?
The dollar has been at record highs whilst Bitcoin has been rising.Is this positive for bitcoin price?
MOON ?
That is the reason given for the Chinese moving their money into bitcoin, so that they don't lose out by the Yuan falling (as well as avoiding capital controls)
If the dollar weakens, as it looks like it may, then I can't see that as price positive.
Dollar falling down doesn't mean that bitcoin is gaining positive energy towards higher growth level. When bitcoin price increases along with the growth of dollar then we can say that bitcoin is gaining potential towards a new level. This happens when bitcoin gets a relative growth against world market than the Chinese economy.
Dollar's price falling down in my opinion cannot cause bitcoin's price to rise high, but it will surely cause some pumps in it since the dollars price will fall therefore there's a possibility that the conversion of bitcoin to dollars will go up a little bit since the change in dollars price also is a little bit less than what it's value in the past weeks. Let's just wait and see what effects it might bring to bitcoin's price but all it will bring IMO is good.
It can if the falling prices actually mean something is wrong with the state of the country. If falling prices are caused by uncertainty then what you're saying is true, but think of an extreme example like war or a banking crisis (think Cyprus). People will run to a safer currencies and bitcoin will be viewed as one. I think the main thing to watch will be US dollar in relation to Chinese Yuan Renminbi, and any trade policies announce by Donald Trump in relation to China and Mexico.
US stock markets closed up on Friday and have been doing well the last few months, but there are probably some BIG changes coming in policy.
Energy and manufacturing companies are expecting relaxed environmental regulations under the new administration, and Trump has promised to tax companies who make products outside the US.
Not sure what all this means for the price of the dollar because I'm no financial expert, but things are definitely going to change.
Hopefully the new staff can continue the slight recovery the economy has made over the last nine years from the 2008 financial crash.
How much the US economy and the price of the dollar influences the price of Bitcoin is definitely an interesting discussion.
US stock markets closed up on Friday and have been doing well the last few months, but there are probably some BIG changes coming in policy.
Energy and manufacturing companies are expecting relaxed environmental regulations under the new administration, and Trump has promised to tax companies who make products outside the US.
Not sure what all this means for the price of the dollar because I'm no financial expert, but things are definitely going to change.
Hopefully the new staff can continue the slight recovery the economy has made over the last nine years from the 2008 financial crash.
How much the US economy and the price of the dollar influences the price of Bitcoin is definitely an interesting discussion.
Whether he will actually tax other countries goods remains to be seen. He is a pathological liar. He already said that he would help working class people but his first act as president was to increase the cost of mortgage insurance, a move that will benefit only insurance Companies and be abother burden to the working class. All his own products are made in other countries, he's not going to tax himself out of profits, ever. He's in this to make himself money and that is all.
I wouldn't say that dollar is closley connected to bitcoin and that this will influence the bitcoin price. Also I don't beleive that Trump and his policy has something to do with bitcoin and that will affect it in positive or negative way. If bitcoin will pump or dump this will not depend on Trump.
Dollar is going down again..
Is this positive for bitcoin price?
MOON ?
Is this positive for bitcoin price?
MOON ?
It's clear that the Trump hype is quickly starting to face. Trump is going to be a DISASTER. He is a master conman and has tricked all those people into getting him ellected. And before some Trump supporter calls me a Hillary supporter or something... no, Hillary was trash too.
Trump is a great businessman but he is not fit for politics, he is too impulsive, he is going to fuck up badly during the next 4 years and this is good news for bitcoin and gold holders so it's not like im going to complain about it.
I think the main thing to watch will be US dollar in relation to Chinese Yuan Renminbi, and any trade policies announce by Donald Trump in relation to China and Mexico.
US stock markets closed up on Friday and have been doing well the last few months, but there are probably some BIG changes coming in policy.
Energy and manufacturing companies are expecting relaxed environmental regulations under the new administration, and Trump has promised to tax companies who make products outside the US.
Not sure what all this means for the price of the dollar because I'm no financial expert, but things are definitely going to change.
Hopefully the new staff can continue the slight recovery the economy has made over the last nine years from the 2008 financial crash.
How much the US economy and the price of the dollar influences the price of Bitcoin is definitely an interesting discussion.
US stock markets closed up on Friday and have been doing well the last few months, but there are probably some BIG changes coming in policy.
Energy and manufacturing companies are expecting relaxed environmental regulations under the new administration, and Trump has promised to tax companies who make products outside the US.
Not sure what all this means for the price of the dollar because I'm no financial expert, but things are definitely going to change.
Hopefully the new staff can continue the slight recovery the economy has made over the last nine years from the 2008 financial crash.
How much the US economy and the price of the dollar influences the price of Bitcoin is definitely an interesting discussion.
I suspect Trump's presidency heralds the end of the 'strong dollar' (in comparison to all other currencies). Cheap Money is good for US exports, and good for Trump's personal wealth which is of course property market heavy. Last thing he wants is strong dollar and rising interest rates.
Trump is gonna be the president of BIG inflation, and therefore, an economic boom.....at least in terms of asset prices. BIG inflation means that Trumps debt gets wiped out in real terms (i.e. he gets loads loads of property for free) and it also wipes out America's foreign creditors holding long term US debt. Trump is also going to harm Chinese exports, and China are sitting on the precipice as it is.
Big big changes are coming.
Edit: Current Fed policy is to slowly raise rates and Yellen has two more years b4 Trump can rid of her and put his own man in....likely a roller coaster path ahead.
Dollar is going down again..
Is this positive for bitcoin price?
MOON ?
Is this positive for bitcoin price?
MOON ?
I think is a temporary movement. The plans of FED for this year about dollar are its increase of value and its equalization with euro. Then I think that the value of bitcoin is independent from the value of the fiat money. Have to do mainly with the spread of it or the desire of its community to have more. Maybe is affected a little but not to make possible the "moon" for bitcoin.
+1
The Fed has spotted inflation and is intent on raising interest rates three times this year. If Trump's budget is expansionary, they'll raise rates even faster. Other countries arn't raising rates, so the dollar will strengthen. It is as simple as parking your money where the interest rates are high but also secure.
Dollar is going down again..
Is this positive for bitcoin price?
MOON ?
Is this positive for bitcoin price?
MOON ?
Maybe this has something to do with all the Anti-Trump protests in the USA.
I think that the US dollar has less influence over the bitcoin price,compared with the past few years.
Dollar's price falling down in my opinion cannot cause bitcoin's price to rise high, but it will surely cause some pumps in it since the dollars price will fall therefore there's a possibility that the conversion of bitcoin to dollars will go up a little bit since the change in dollars price also is a little bit less than what it's value in the past weeks. Let's just wait and see what effects it might bring to bitcoin's price but all it will bring IMO is good.
Dollar is going down again..
Is this positive for bitcoin price?
MOON ?
Is this positive for bitcoin price?
MOON ?
I think is a temporary movement. The plans of FED for this year about dollar are its increase of value and its equalization with euro. Then I think that the value of bitcoin is independent from the value of the fiat money. Have to do mainly with the spread of it or the desire of its community to have more. Maybe is affected a little but not to make possible the "moon" for bitcoin.
I think the main thing to watch will be US dollar in relation to Chinese Yuan Renminbi, and any trade policies announce by Donald Trump in relation to China and Mexico.
US stock markets closed up on Friday and have been doing well the last few months, but there are probably some BIG changes coming in policy.
Energy and manufacturing companies are expecting relaxed environmental regulations under the new administration, and Trump has promised to tax companies who make products outside the US.
Not sure what all this means for the price of the dollar because I'm no financial expert, but things are definitely going to change.
Hopefully the new staff can continue the slight recovery the economy has made over the last nine years from the 2008 financial crash.
How much the US economy and the price of the dollar influences the price of Bitcoin is definitely an interesting discussion.
US stock markets closed up on Friday and have been doing well the last few months, but there are probably some BIG changes coming in policy.
Energy and manufacturing companies are expecting relaxed environmental regulations under the new administration, and Trump has promised to tax companies who make products outside the US.
Not sure what all this means for the price of the dollar because I'm no financial expert, but things are definitely going to change.
Hopefully the new staff can continue the slight recovery the economy has made over the last nine years from the 2008 financial crash.
How much the US economy and the price of the dollar influences the price of Bitcoin is definitely an interesting discussion.
Dollar is going down again..
Is this positive for bitcoin price?
MOON ?
Is this positive for bitcoin price?
MOON ?
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