Topic: Trump is senile (and Biden is not) (Read 403 times)

What "government" called [cryptocurrency?] a "ponzi scheme"? Can you give us the citation where this assertion came from?

And yes, the government taxes profits. This is nothing new.



Again, where did you get this? For the purposes of collecting taxes, the IRS usually just wants to know how much money you made so you pay a tax on it. This is in no way being "against" said investment.


Yes, I'm confused too. Again, please show us where you are getting this information about a new program to tax crypto earnings.



Well, state and federal governments have been taxing energy since we have energy bills. I guess you can debate whether they should do that or not--and in what form. But it's nothing new.


Huh? That makes no sense. How does simply moving the current US dollar to a digital format change anything? We already effectively have digital transfer in the form of credit card payments. This clearly hasn't affected Bitcoin's rise to $1T+ in valuation. A CBDC wouldn't affect Bitcoin one way or another.



Again, where are you getting this? The ETF was approved by the SEC under... president Biden. Of course you can say that the president doesn't directly affect these things very much and I'd agree with you, but such an assertion would contradict your central thesis that Trump would be better for Bitcoin investors.



True, but without market regulation, investors cannot feel safe in investing, which means they won't invest. It's a balance.

The fact that he addresses someone as small as crypto traders, when crypto is just an ant compared to the elephant of the stock market and other investment branches makes me think otherwise.
The government has made it difficult for crypto investors to make any money by calling it a ponzi scheme. Now they want a piece of the profit? How's that fair?



Do you know how he wants to plug that loopholes? It's by making you report all trades and purchases and assign all your addresses to your ID, so that they can track you. In other words, they want to stop that few people who don't pay taxes by punishing the whole industry.

How am I getting special privilege? Isn't bitcoin already taxed in the US? People are reporting their profits every year, yet it's still unfair in the eyes of the Biden Administration?


That's because we don't need a tax on mining. There should be a tax on profit, which we already have, so that miners have to report their gains when they sell their newly mined bitcoin. The way they are attacking mining is they're trying to additionally tax miners on electricity because democrats don't like that this industry is growing fast and undermining the need for CBDC.
Shouldn't the rates be negotiated on the seller-buyer level, they way they've been for the last 10 years? Why do they need government in all that?

Because CBDC is government's answer to crypto. A centralized coin that can be made the way USD is and where every user is known to various government agencies.



You want to be introduced to CBDC, be my guest, but keep me out of your wet dreams.
Want to jump off a bridge? I won't stop you.
By turning that into a digital currency under government's control, so that it's exactly the same currency that goes from point to point faster, the way you can send money with apple pay and all those other second layers.


I didn't say any of this.


Which was proven to be a lie. The whole report they based that upon was disproved in Congress. This is a great proof they used that to attack bitcoin without getting opinions and analysis from both sides.



I haven't said that it went up from 0. Again, the period that mattered was 2017-18 where it went 20x from 1k to 20k USD. That's far from 0.

And you know how Biden could have helped that happen? By providing a safer marketplace for mainstream investors. Bitcoin didn't break one trillion because a bunch of hackers thought it was cool, it did so because millions of Americans can buy it using a broker they know they can trust.

This did not happen thanks to Biden. This happened because the SEC lost in court.
Get your facts straight. Biden did not make the SEC approve ETFs!


It was Gensler's job to do so and he got his ass handed to him twice, in court and in Congress.

What comes to mind is that you can regulate things into the ground.

I am 67 I clearly remember back to Vietnam 🇻🇳 Kennedy and Johnson.

I know my own mind and my own body.

At 67 in someways I am far better at the waiting game and hedging. I am less inclined to go all or nothing.

And if you knock on my door and wake me up at four in the morning it takes me seven minutes to dress piss and drink a cup of coffee. At 35 I could skip the piss and cut the time to 3 or 4 minutes.

Do I think I would be better at 80 than 67 no. But I could consult well to a younger guy.

I rather agree with you about having an age limit. But because of the experience of old people, it would be nice to have a formal 'Old Guy', Advisor-To-The-President position that carries some authority... enough to stop foolish Biden mistakes, for example. The Advisor position could require somebody over 75-y-o, for example.

yeah I gave trump 20 years which would be 97 which is way over average.

and 20 years is 7300 days so I said 1 out of 7300 is likely a good guess.

biden I gave 17 years which would be 98 which is way over average.

thats about 6100 days so I

think the 4 million to 1 shot iis a close guess.

I just think no one their ages should run.

This might be true regarding averages. But are you including people who live on the street and use fentanyl and poop next to their street-neighbor's cardboard-box-home?

Neither Trump nor Biden live like this. Rather, they live with the best medical and nutrition that is understood professionally. This brings their odds of dying way down. However, this doesn't mean that they won't die. It simply means that they will "probably" easily beat the averages.

about 10000 to 1 shot on any of them dying . So 10000 to the 5th power of them all dying tonight.

the odds of hitting a block with a 1gh miner (gpu) are

1 gh in 600eh
1 gh in. 600000ph
1 gh in  600000000th
1 gh in 600000000000gh which is way better than 10000x10000x10000x10000x10000

but realistically
if trump could live 10-20 years he is about 1 in 7300 to die to night
and biden is maybe 17 years so he is 1 in 6000 to die tonight

so the chances of just those two dying tonight is maybe 6000x7300= 4,380,000

that is actually not likely a 4.3 million to one shot coming  in is very rare.

the other three are younger so 10,000 x 10,000 x 10,000 = 1,000,000,000 a billion to one

To be clear, it's still unacceptable for the Democratic party. And the for the non-MAGA portion of the Republican party.

I dont stay in the USA and very apolitical but if Trump should get on the pole this year with Biden, He is gonna win. Most people talking against him wont vote even country leaders dont want him back but it is beyond them if they cant stop him to get on the pole then they can't deny him. He seems not to stepping down

There's a higher chance of mining a BTC block with a PC CPU/GPU...

yeah its a fucking joke.

Every nite i tell myself when I wake up in the morning.

Trump
Biden
Putin
JinPing
Kim Jung Un


will all die peacefully in their sleep. 💤

Odds are high over 10,000,000,000,000,000 to one but it would be a cool longshot.

I think that a country like the US, which is large and wealthy in general should be able to put forward decent candidates. But look at them: One is so old that could very well die while in Presidency and the other is a ranting idiot that is not much younger either. Where are the good US politicians when their country need them? Is this becoming a gerontocracy?

Obama wasn't senile though... I'm not saying he was a good president, but at least he wasn't old.

I just don't understand why why old guys should become presidents.

Why not have 30-40 year old guy instead? Do you have to be 70-80 years old to be "mature"?

I would declare Gerontocracy illegal if I had it my way.

This is think this is an opposition post against the one that was created against Biden. We don't have to start a scene we can not finish.
Whatever we think a iut these people, we need to understand that non of them is perfect and there is need to observe the two great men and appreciate there efforts to make American great again. I am not here to talk against anyone or state a talk I will not be able to finish.
I will always appreciate the efforts of these great men because it is never easy to be a leader.

You forget the fact FED started printing trillions of $$$ in March 2020 during Trump's presidency. Who gave out the $1200 stimmy checks?

But it shouldn't really matter, because FED is "independent", right?

So it shouldn't matter if Trump or Biden is in charge, since FED can act independently... so your pro-Biden/pro-BTC point is kinda moot.

It's not:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjxJ1wPnkk4

By the way. Am I the only one who believes this thing about talking about Trump or Biden suffering from cognitive dispairment is just another example of how much politics in the United States seems to have devolved in during these years?
Just think about it, in previous years (around the 2000s and the 2010s) during political rallies the candidates would not talk about such topics at all, they would talk about policies and the way they wanted to try to improve the life of the average American citizen.
Some nights ago during one of his rallies Trump even made fun of Biden's stutter and people laughed at it.
Those are the kind of things which would have been considered to be of a bad taste and unacceptable for both the Republican party and the Democrat party not so many years ago.

Today it has become acceptable for one of the candidates to make fun of a medical condition of their political foe, instead of talking about policies. We have become desensitized...

Good idea. People who live here know that Trump would immediately surrender the USA to Russia if he's elected.

Seriously I hate political arguments cause at the end of the day I feel we are all part of the game and donf really know what is going on at the top.

I'm not a citizen of USA but I really enjoy poking my nose in matters that hardly concern me and moreover I've watched some YouTube videos on both trump and Biden as the topic of it and there have compared then a lot of times and I've found out that those YouTube are mostly sentimental and would just favour one parry against the other.

But anyway I don't really like any of them in particular cause I head trump was that kind of very strict guy and would just immediately sack anyone that dares opoose him and yeah I feel he also has a strong attitude and is bold enough to be the leader of USA 🇺🇸 cause right now the world is in the middle of some kind of power competition and Russia 🇷🇺 and many other world countries are looking for ways to replace USA as world power or so I think, Biden is too soft to be a president and I would prefer trump over him. Just speaking as someone who doesn't know much so I'll still leave this for those in the country to decide.

No, there's not. Investment income is investment income. The technical means by which you invest is not relevant.


Uh... sure. You don't want to pay taxes. Neither do I. But it's something we all have to do.

And guess what, Trump supporters: Trump isn't going to repeal all taxes either. Nobody is, because the US would go instantly bankrupt if they even tried.

Crypto by its nature in using addresses and hashes is private. The world can see crypto transfer amounts, but nobody can crack your wallet unless you handle it foolishly. Also, without a note in the memo section of the transaction, the purpose of the transfer is private.

If you transact crypto through an exchange that is licensed, you are voluntarily coming out of the privacy laws into the public domain because of the licensing. Just as all investments controlled by the SEC are public, what you privately do with your investment paper is not public, even though you obtained it publicly. But investment paper doesn't have privacy built in with public/private addresses and hashes like crypto does.

What this all means is that crypto can't fall under the same guidelines as other investments. The privacy is built right into it. Since government is there to regulate public, not the private, they need to be careful that they don't overstep their boundaries. To see that this is true, check into Private Member Associations, which, if set up properly, base their operations on over 70 SCOTUS rulings over the decades, that deny government the ability to regulate private operations.



Most taxation on privately done 'income' is prohibited by the constitution... especially IRS taxes. Conversely, contracting with government is allowed just like it is with other people. What the IRS does is to use clever wording in their laws and regulations to make it look like people are required to pay taxes. Then they use clever wording in their forms that make it look like the person who signed up to NOT pay, was tricked into signing up TO pay.

If a person doesn't know how to use straight forward statements to cancel the accidental, contract he made with the IRS, the IRS can only use what their paperwork says, and the person loses in court. After all, the IRS can only go by what the paperwork says. They can't interpret the person's understanding of the paperwork... until the person clarifies it the right way. And people don't generally clarify what they don't know about.

That is not true. You are taking that quote out of context. He said he didn't think "wealthy tax cheats and [wealthy] crypto traders" should be given tax breaks at the expense of the poor. That's not even close to being "anti-crypto".


Yes, he wants to, again, tax crypto earnings in the same all other investments are taxes. Maybe you call not getting a special privilege from the government, "anti-crypto", but for me he's just making sure everybody pays the same rate of taxes.



Again, if he opposed crypto mining, why especially would the propose a tax on crypto mining? That's nonsensical.

Different kinds of customers have paid different rates for energy since they started selling it. That's nothing new.


Why is being in favor of a US CBDC... anti-crypto? If anything, this would be a strongly pro crypto move since it will introduce millions of Americans to the idea of digital currency. (To say nothing of simply getting our country off of outdated paper and metal currency).


Yes, the government wants to collect the taxes based on what people earn. Again, that's nothing new. If you don't think we should all pay any taxes, well, that's a completely different subject--and you'd hardly start with cryptocurrency in particular since most taxes are paid in all kind of other ways.


His administration pointed out that a particular industrial sector leads to greenhouse emissions. Good. But that's not the same as being against said industrial sector.



Sure, from nearly zero before. That's very different than it surpassing one trillion in market cap.

And you know how Biden could have helped that happen? By providing a safer marketplace for mainstream investors. Bitcoin didn't break one trillion because a bunch of hackers thought it was cool, it did so because millions of Americans can buy it using a broker they know they can trust. (And oh yeah, the supposedly "anti-crypto" Biden oversaw the approval of the ETF... why exactly?).

If you want to tank the Bitcoin price, elect a government that... crazy and says crazy things about Bitcoin and other cryptos, e.g. that TrumpCoin is way better.

Markets function best amid stability and regulation that creates a safe environment for investors.

Not true, there's plenty.

Biden called cryptocurrency investors "wealthy tax cheats and crypto traders" during G7 forum in Japan.

Biden made a similar swipe against Republicans earlier in May, with his Twitter account suggesting that while Democrats want to plug crypto tax loopholes worth $18 billion, Republicans want to cut a near-equivalent $15 billion in food safety inspection funding.
https://www.dlnews.com/articles/regulation/tornado-cash-attacked-as-biden-attacks-crypto-traders/

He also opposes bitcoin mining.

On Thursday, February 22, Bitcoin miner Riot Platforms, along with industry groups Texas Blockchain Council (TBC) and the Chamber of Digital Commerce, initiated legal action against key agencies of the Biden-Harris Administration. The lawsuit targets the US Department of Energy (DOE), the US Energy Information Administration (EIA), and the Office of Management and Budget (OMB), challenging the administration’s recent steps to gather detailed energy consumption data from the cryptocurrency mining sector.
https://cryptodaily.co.uk/news-in-crypto/bitcoinist:us-bitcoin-miners-sue-biden-administration

He's also for CBDC and ideally wants all bitcoiners to report their holdings and transactions.
He wants full surveillance of assets, he's anti privacy and anti freedom. His administration was behind the environmental attack on bitcoin.

The Biden administration in September 2022 released a comprehensive report from the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy, “Climate and Energy Implications of Crypto Assets in the United States.” This was the first salvo from the White House raising concerns over bitcoin mining’s harmful impacts on the environment.
https://www.ewg.org/news-insights/news-release/2024/02/ewg-applauds-bidens-plan-shine-spotlight-climate-pollution

This was an attack, nothing more because it was later disproved that bitcoin is bad for the environment. Bitcoin miners don't produce any CO2 and do not pollute the environment. They help to stabilize the power grid and often use electricity that would otherwise be wasted.

I can find more examples, but I feel like this is more than enough to prove a point.

As for the argument that it quadrupled, it went up over 20x under Trump in 2017-18. If that's an important factor, we have a clear winner.

There is no evidence Biden is "anti-crypto", and Bitcoin has quadrupled under his tenure.

Biden doesn't have "free reign" and unlike Trump he does not seek to be a dictator.

Our choices, as Americans, is either Trump or Biden. I'm not wild about Biden either, but he'll be fine and the alternative won't be.

"The oranges of the investigation"

To be honest, they both suck. They both have their flaws and they both have stupid policies.

For instance, I wouldn't vote for Trump because of his attitude towards the war in Ukraine and NATO. IMO the US should help Ukraine and the world should clearly cut any ties with Russia because of the war crimes it is committing, but Trump thinks he can save some money by not fighting the biggest bully in the room and allow it to roam free and spew lies. As for the NATO, I feel like it should break any treaties it has with Russia. Not attack it first, but draw a clear line as to what will be allowed and what will not be. A good example is what Russia is doing with its air force. It constantly flies military aircraft into the NATO air space to spy and make threats. NATO should warn Russia that next time military aircraft with transponders turned off enter NATO air space they will be shot down.

I wouldn't also choose Biden because he supports the creation of CBDC and is anti-crypto. If he had free reign he'd ban gun ownership and many other things.  Why would I vote for someone who wants to limit my basic rights?

I was truly amazed at how clear and focused Biden was in his S of the U address. In light of his massive numbers of failures at other times... failures, btw, that show that he truly is mentally impaired rather than just a lousy speaker... there are only a few possibilities regarding this speech, or Biden:

1. A really good double did this speech. After all, the Deep State has easily had a sufficient amount of time to find, groom, and train a realistic double. They could have started way back while Trump was in his first term.

2. Biden is not "senile or anything close to it," as legiteum says. Rather, Biden has been a really good actor all along, feigning senility, probably as protection in the event that the stolen election was found out. He could claim something like insanity if he ever went to court. The reason he kept it up after things leveled off so that he wouldn't be accused was, he had to keep up the game he started. But there is always the chance he will be found out in this regard.

3. There are drugs and nutrients that can make a mentally imbalanced person act and look almost normal for a short period of time. The thing we need to watch for is how much he reverts in the future. Such drugs and nutrients can burn a person out if not administered carefully. They might even kill him in a short period of time.

There could easily be other explanations. But Biden was truly outside of what we have seen as his normal state, for his S of the U message.

So why exactly did the "Eton/Oxford elite" choose Trump in 2016? Why did they choose Biden in 2020? Why did they attack the US Capitol? Why were they supporting Ukraine for a while, and have now paused that support? Why did they overturn Row v. Wade?

I love the idea of imagining the world is controlled by a few mysterious men in a secret room somewhere, because that's really easy to understand. But in my experience the real world is a lot more complicated than that...

Does it really matter? Whoever is running, the Eton/Oxford elite always win to control Washington, Westminster and the EU.

You should watch the State of the Union address then, because that clearly shows he is not "senile" or anything close to it. Or watch any other recent public speech of Biden's. Or look at his actions and what he has accomplished, which is more than any president has in decades.

Or listen to some other commentators besides the ones working for his opposition party--who will say things like that no matter who the Democrats put up there.

Biden has always been a lousy public speaker--even when he was young. He has a stutter. He's not a slick politician.

But he's fully in command of his senses and he's been an outstanding president.

I don’t think Biden should be in the running this time, it’s clear he has cognitive failure, he’s an old man. Somebody needs to put a stop to it. Whoever is in the background pulling his strings needs to give it up. The US is the greatest country on earth, it’s embarrassing having him lead it. How can he be expected to do four more years, let somebody else run for The Dems.

More on this same topic...

Donald Trump Slurring Words at Rally Raises Questions

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-slurring-words-rally-raises-questions-1862705

Nikki Haley wouldn't win because most Republican voters these days aren't Republican voters, they are Trump voters. If Trump wasn't on the ballot, Trump would stay home.

Laughable though I am not a citizen either a fans of any but pray for good leader to emerge Trump is old may look more old if the stress of the election did not favour him, I stand to be corrected trump has more ideal way of handling some issue before it escalate to uncontrollable situation than the president leader.

Before reading about politics in the United States, I would have assumed being rich in that country was a warranty of living a stress-less life, you know. But it seems that getting involved in politics there rapidly affects the person appearance negatively, at least that is the impression I have got from seeing how Obama looked by the end of his second term compared to the beginning of his first term. So, that aging has probably something to do with the nature of the job of the presidency of the United States.

I sincerely think Nikki had a good chance against Biden and to become the first female president of the country, she was moderate enough and had the backing of the establishment, so the center right would have felt comfortable enough to vote for her, besides the usual Republicans who do not like how Trump manages things.
Anyways, It is a pity the USA cannot have better leader than those two, it is such a beautiful country and full of opportunities.

I bet you by the election he will look twenty years older.  How much stress can a person possibly handle?

I think Nikki could have beaten Joe, but now we'll never know.  :/

To be fair, Trump has always been cognitively impaired AKA dumb as a bag of rocks, surrounding himself by people too afraid to tell him that. Not much to do with being old... perhaps it's getting a bit worse lately, hard to tell, I can't listen to him for more than 10 seconds.

It doesn't matter though. He can shit his pants on prime time TV and not lose any voters.

Both are horrible, I can't believe they are the only ones in the run in a country of 340 Million.

Even though I feel this thread is an obvious parody, I will reply to it seriously. 

See, people when talk about Biden's age, they do it because that is the easiest and most direct explanation to his mental lapses and perhaps some of the physical accidents he has unfortunately suffered during these years of his presidency. But media of the right political spectrum loves to ignore both Joe Biden and Donald Trump are pretty much in the same age range. (though, I will admit Trump looks younger because that fake hair he uses and the artificial tan).  It is all just for the sake of political propaganda, really.

Also, it is worth noticing that in these lastest speeches which Trump has had, he seems to be having problems with the pronunciation of certain words and, as if he having trouble to speak properly. It has been actually speculated how he may be the one starting to suffer from his own age.

By the way, the fact Trump made fun of Biden's stutter lately in public was very distasteful and proper of a middle school boy, not a Republican nominee, let alone the President of the United States. 
It is a medical condition, nobody has control over it.

I'm not usually one to start political threads like this, but I feel like this part of the board needs a little.... balance?

Here's Fox News clips describing Trump's behavior and demeanor, pointing out how old, decrepit, bumbling, idiotic, senile, moronic, and utterly lost he is when presented with anything complicated:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgjS_7eNoOg

This man is absolutely not fit to be president on the purely cognitive level. (And don't forget "person woman man camera TV").

Contrast this with Biden the other night manhandling MTG with an ad-libbed conversation on the floor of Congress in front of 100 million people. Biden is a lousy public speaker and always has been (he has a stutter for chrissakes), but he clearly has fully functional--and very sharp--mind when it comes to understanding the complex problems that face our country.


(Also, for balance, here's a bunch of BOLD OVERSIZED TYPED and a giant wall of text)


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