Topic: Trump turns himself in at Fulton County Jail (Read 379 times)

I dunno how the judiciary system works in the US but tbh the way Trump's case was handled was quite light to me. No wonder these politicians can get away with some crimes or can decide to turn themselves in but will not be punished Accordingly.
Well, Putin believes the way Trump's case was handled goes to prove how the political system is rotten. But meh, he's one to talk? I know that due process ought to be followed which to most people, it wasn't as regards the case of ex president Trump but Putin shouldn't be the one casting the stone. Talk about a kettle calling a pot black.

Many of us may not like Donald Trump, but he's one of the big games ahead as the election approaches, and he continues to campaign through various measures.Donald Trump is currently serving as the centerpiece of American political leadership, with every party that comes up for election not having any moves to solidify his position and whenever he is in favor of the opposition It is natural that they start taking the blame and when they take power, they are not tolerated like the opposition.It remains to be seen if all the charges will be cleared before the election, and he will participate in the election and win through his exposure.American politics is affected by these small events, so I know that before the American election, he can take action by making promises and influencing people through words and speeches.No country should be called guilty until proven guilty, but we are currently guilty before committing a crime due to dirty politics for profiteering.Donald Trump plagiarism is now being promoted as a hot topic. I personally don't like Trump very much, but politics needs people like Trump.I don't think Trump has turned himself into Fulton County for these simple reasons, the simple fact that politics is part of campaigning.Trump's only objective is to win the election and the American public prefers to win the news, the influencer, the person in the center of the news, so the past says.I have seen that the countries that work against America before the elections are supposed to take various measures against them And it is a culture of American politics to campaign and win elections by saying these things
And it is a culture of American politics to campaign and win elections by saying these things.

Politicians are very funny and they can do whatever they feel that can help them create publicity for their campaign in elections. I wouldn't be surprise to see Trump coming up with this strategy for the forth coming election.

Politics is something I don't like because majority of them are not honest and they can do anything just to win elections and after they have being put to power they forget all their promises and act the other way. Elections are always manipulated to favor one party or the other which makes it a dirty game.

Is it probabilistic if you imply the probability is 100%?


The Shokin story is wishful thinking by Trumptards/Putin Fanboys for two reasons:

1) On top of the blatant corruption, Shokin was a Putin Puppet, working to push Ukraine away from the West and into Putin's circle of influence.  NATO leaders and the IMF are all on the record before Biden went to Ukraine agreeing Shokin must go for the money to flow (hey that rhymes).

2) According to Shokin's deputy the Burisma investigation had been shelved years earlier.  Probably because Burisma bribed Shokin, although we don't know that.  It's widely believed that the Shokens Farewell exposed Burisma to more risk of prosecution, not less.

When Biden went to Ukraine, it was well known what his son was doing and everyone pretty much agreed it didn't look good, because of the reasons above literally nobody had a second thought when Biden told them Shokin has to go since he was just working to advance already established US policy.  The only reason the dumb story stuck is because all the mouth breathers needed was that video of Biden bragging. (they aren't the type to do their own research, especially when there's a possibility that they could find out that something they want to be true isn't)

Good that you noticed. As 'they' tear down the confederate statues, and as Trump agonizes over it, they still realize how Trump makes sense. So, they vote for him.

Vandals don't have a lot of brains. It's like they are throwing tantrums every time they tear down a statue. But their brains are finally waking up to the fact that Trump good, Biden and the Dems bad. Trump might be the only way to get away from the bad Biden and the Dem policies.

When you see "Black voters are shifting in Trumps favor", it doesn't mean that polls are showing general support for Trump among black voters.  It means that polls are showing 10-12% support among black voters, which is an increase from the 8% that voted for him in 2020.

Remember, Trump is in the political party that throws a tantrum every time they take down a confederate statue and thinks people that call out racism are the real problem, and the White people being called racist are the real victims.

If he gets 10%+ of black votes that is a big deal and a win for Trump.

If Trump moves fast enough, after he has the black community voting for him, the next group he might get are the illegals that Biden brought in over the border. Once they see what's been happening to them, they might easily turn to Trump.

It will be fun watching to see how many Americans have enough guts to formally and physically take down the cheating Deep State if Biden wins... through the cheating... because there is no other way the Dems or Biden can win.


A lot of the African American community has started to wake up...

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https://twitter.com/officer_Lew/status/1696869758493147521
Editor's note - there are a lot of expletives used in this post, but it is well worth the listen...

A lot of the African American community has started to wake up, it’s getting clearer and clearer that the left has used us as pawns for years‼️ salute to this guy 🫡
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Ahaha, dude lol. I don't care who will be the next president of the United States, I just feel a little sorry for ordinary Americans, who again will be forced to choose between a bad and a very bad option. According to a recent Wall Street Journal poll, 73% of Americans think Biden is too old to run for a second term. And I readily understand them, when your leader regularly greets the void, I would feel uncomfortable too. However, the outrageous developer is a little better.

You are finally getting the picture. What is Trump?

If Trump was in power, there would be no US/Ukraine war against Russia, which would mean that there would be no sanctions, which would mean that Russia would remain weak, and BRICS would mostly remain in theory.

Now that Trump has been removed from the scene (at least temporarily), Russia has become stronger than ever militarily, BRICS has grown worldwide, the USD is becoming worthless by all the fake fiat money being pumped into Ukraine, Ukraine - which has always been a corrupt country - is being crushed and destroyed, and the US is losing control of the world.

This might be a new Russia/China world order if it succeeds. But if Trump gets back in, he will bolster the US, and the BRICS thing will have simply been a wave in the nature of things.

You are finally getting it.

That is good to know. So "accusations against Trump" are just likely, or one could even think probabilistically 5% right, given that you do not provide anything but two line from you, a well known Kremlin troll.

You know what this proves to me? The great interest that Ruzzia has in a Trump victory, as probably the only way of getting some benefit from this fiasco war. If Trump is your last hope, it speaks very loud about the situation.

News from the future comes to me in a probabilistic form, so sometimes they are not accurate if opposing volitional acts actively interfere in the natural course of time. And the news about the appointment in August of a special prosecutor to investigate the old case of Biden’s son and the Burizma company, because of which Poroshenko was forced to fire prosecutor Shokin, is completely from the present time, so there can be no inaccuracies here. As far as I know, a special prosecutor in the United States is a person with special powers so that those with whose interests it conflicts cannot influence the investigation of a case. And he is now investigating all the corrupt connections of the Biden family since the early 2010s. But it's okay, it seems that you can become the President of the United States even while in prison, so Biden still has a chance for a second term.

I see youre still getting  your news from the same sources you used in early 2022.

All the accusations against Trump are complete crap, I think his lawyers can easily handle this. In my opinion, the accusations of corruption against Biden are much more serious. In any case, this is an indicator of a deep crisis in the US political system, there is a non-zero and not even a small probability that a criminal will become the next US president.

No he has not immunity of any type. He cannot pardon himself for the offences that he is indicted for and some of these include sedition an treason against the US which, by the 14th amendment will prevent him from even running from presidency. The Republican Party is about to face a choice: Go Trump and loose with Trump or make a change and have better chances with someone else.

For me, there would be no doubt on a rational choice, but as of today it seems that the Reps are sequestered by Trump.

I'm looking forward to watching you squirm like this every time more evidence becomes public.

Spring.  The season of squirming. 

So, the SoS lied, but in a way he made legal.

Same as before. When you have the authority to make laws for an election in your State, if you are shrewd enough to make the laws sound good, but make them so that they do bad without the people understanding what is going on, all you have done is legalize what is generally illegal.

Trump simply called this out. For example, the unconscionable legality of using voting machines  when you know that they can hook to the Internet and be manipulated, is legal if the SoS makes it so, but is simply wrong.

In other words, Trump is being called out as illegal when he is 'spiritually' right (the spirit of the law process rather than the legality of certain sections of it).

Trump to the Georgia Sec of State (the guy in charge of elections), one day after Trump received the report on the investigation he paid for that determined there were no irregularities involving dead people or duplicate votes:


Here he is repeating Rudys lies about Ruby Freeman and her mother.  This was after he asked Bill Barr to look into it, who did, and testified under oath that he personally told Trump that they were doing there job exactly as they should have been.  No suitcases, no trunks, just transporting ballots in bins from one area to another the same as any other polling facility.



There's plenty more, let me know if I should keep going.

Like, literally....I could keep going for pages.  He lied a shitload.


Full audio: https://youtu.be/AW_Bdf_jGaA

Trump didn't lie. Find his words in context and see that he was questioning, or that he was quoting others who supposedly were knowledgeable.

What happened to all that? It didn't go away. It's still there. Total dishonesty of election officials in front of the general populace. If not illegal, it was because they had the authority to make unconscionable laws.

D is the correct answer!

And yes, Trump did call election officials and lied about thousands of dead voters and dominion hacking and workers stealing ballots and other stupid stuff that he claimed to know was true but was actually false.  And then he said find me ~11,000 votes.



What about dominion, and dead people voting, and Ruby Freeman passing USB drives with vote stealing software, and stuffing ballots into suitcases?  What happened to all that?

Why is this even here? Trump did all kinds of things that are not illegal. But he didn't do D.

The election was stolen. The method used to do it was to make unconscionable election laws that were not illegal to make... election laws that if the people understood what they were, the people would be abhorred that their State officials were like this.

I've already showed you this, did you not read it the first time?



Do you understand what that says?  Did you read it slowly?



Go back and read it one more time.



Ok.  Now, here's the next section:




Ok, so pop quiz:

The president of the United States appears to have just lost his reelection and he's considering 4 possibilities going forward.  Three of them are legal, and one is not.  Fill in the bubble for the choice that would be illegal:

A) Giving a speech claiming he believed there was fraud and calling for an investigation.

B) Filing lawsuits in all the states he lost to challenge the election rules that were adopted.

C) Crying like a baby and refusing to go to the inauguration of the winner.

D) Calling state election officials and lying to them about evidence of election fraud and then asking them to find him the number of votes he needed to win.

Thanks for that. It's like you never prove yourself to be Correct. You continually use suppositions, and use them to fight against things that are good and right.

I guess I really don't want to say anymore about this. Everybody who knows you knows it by now.

After all, Democrats questioned all kinds of elections in the past, and nobody indicted a Democrat former president the way they are going after Trump. It's all to keep Trump out of office, a totally unconscionable thing that Trump isn't doing, himself.


Trump Campaign Releases Video Supercut Of Democrats Disputing Republican Election Victories

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https://www.zerohedge.com/political/trump-campaign-releases-video-supercut-democrats-disputing-republican-election-victories
"Republican supporters and President Trump are being ridiculed, persecuted, and even prosecuted by Biden, congressional democrats, and their radical prosecutors for raising questions about the accuracy of the 2020 victory," the video begins.

"This may be one of the most hypocritical acts in history considering the Democrats have violently claimed that the last three Republican Presidential wins were stolen, rigged, and illegitimate, and it was Democrats who tried to stop the certification of a Republican President," it continues.

The video goes on to cite a number of occasions in which Democrats have challenged election results, including during the 2000 presidential election when former Vice President Al Gore lost in a close-call race against President George W. Bush.

Mr. Gore ultimately challenged the results in the U.S. Supreme Court amid a clash over which candidate had received Florida's 25 electoral votes.

The Supreme Court subsequently ruled that a previous Florida Supreme Court order for an elective manual recount of that state's presidential election ballots was unconstitutional and Mr. Gore eventually conceded the race.

In the video, multiple Democrats—including President Biden, former Presidents Bill Clinton and Barack Obama, and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton—can be seen questioning the 2000 election results, with President Biden stating outright that he believes Mr. Gore won the race.
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EDIT: Gore might have won the race against Bush in 2000. The reason why SCOTUS couldn't vote in favor of Gore in the case where Gore brought the election to court, has to do with what the Supreme Court is all about.

Justice Scalia explained that Gore didn't have even one man or woman who identified one of the hanging chads as his, and that he was harmed by this. The rest of the voting apparatus is up to the States.

In other words, hanging chads is a State issue until there is a man or woman testifying how he has been harmed, with evidence and witness.

Wonder how many people that chanted "lock her up" are crying like youve been lately.

Probably all of them.

You're just like that Twitchyseal joker. You can't seem to understand "innocent until proven guilty." And it Trump's case, you simply haven't opened your eyes wide enough to see that Trump was and is attempting uphold the Constitution. If he wasn't, he would have found a reason to NOT turn himself in.

At the same time you totally ignore the fact that Biden is trying to destroy America. Fact? You can see it in what is happening to America... slum size increase, more drugs and fentanyl, illegals being welcomed in, creations of new money for Ukraine while places in America that have need are ignored.

But I can understand why you are like this. In your case, you are simply an enemy of the US. So, you want to destroy her.

False, this is something that Trumpians are spreading just to keep the guy having chances to run.


Example, trying to overturn the constitution of the United States can be easily interpreted as insurrection and rebellion - and Trump has clearly engaged in such activities. Also, not acting to stop the mobs in the Capitol can be interpreted  as providing support to people trying to overturn the legal and governmental system. Please notice that it says "enemies" is not just "external enemies".

Under these grounds, Trump is out if found guilty.

I have no political beliefs, I do not vote to be honest but that’s another story. I think the recently leaked mugshot is hilarious though. I think Trump may use it in some way for his campaign movement in the next election. Either way though, the emotion he is displaying in the mugshot made me laugh.

Yeah. He's got plans to run again next year and many are saying that this could be a tactic from his opponents (whoever they are) to discourage people from voting for him. But AFAIK, an elected official has got immunity from this type of case, right?

If that's possible through that law, yeah, we'll see on 2024.

Yes. It will be really funny if Trump is found guilty and is elected at the same time (2024). His guilt won't stop him from being president. It can't. It would be an interference in government. Maybe White House arrest, and out for work to the Capitol on the Huber laws.

That mugshot of his is classic. Based on the article, 13 felony counts were charged against him. In our country, the Philippines, this isn't something new. There have been ex-presidents that have been detained due to their past administration but yeah, this isn't about our country.
Anyway, based on what I've searched about Trump's case. A felony charge could go behind bars for a year so x13 with that, 13 years? Is that right? But with bail, anything is possible. I'm just confused a website says as per google said it's not baliable, but some says it is.

I don' know what Trump really did or didn't do. But let's say he was innocent of wrongdoing. But that' not what the court is looking for. They are simply looking for Trump admitting to doing something. If he admits to doing the things they are indicting him for, even though he did nothing wrong, they will convict him... even though he is convicted of doing right things. Then they will try to punish him for getting convicted.

The other side of this is the advertising. If there were any angry Trump people Jan 6, there are going to be a bunch more and angrier now. Even your standard Dem realizes that this is stupidity on the part of the Biden team.

Mike Lindell developed a device that can track if voting machines are hooking to the Internet during the voting. Three-hundred-thousand of his people are taking these devices around the country to all the major voting places. And this time (2024) the Reps will be watching the voting places a lot more closely.

If Trump is both elected and found guilty, he will be under White House arrest, and out to the Capitol under Huber laws (work release). If he appeals, he might not have any trouble until after his next presidential term, 2024.

Under American law, a person is not guilty until a court decision.
Elections are constantly manipulated in the US. From examples, an example from a private conversation. On Twitter, the system divides people by interests and political views and shows each audience the right fragments from the speeches of the right politicians.
If you are interested in cryptocurrencies, then you will constantly see beautiful speeches of candidates about the legalization of cryptocurrencies and maximum freedom in the development of these ecosystems.
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Trump will not go to jail, and if he is elected president, all charges will be dropped.

So he agreed to turn himself in so it'd help bolster publicity for the upcoming elections and not because he was actually guilty of the crime? That's a shit way to handle things. So if they knew they were going to let him go after paying some form of bail money, why prolong the case then? Honestly, the way I see the whole situation, it's a case of the wealthy and influential in the society covering up their evil deeds with hush money and appearing in court just to fulfill righteousness.

This is just part of the dirty political struggle. On the one hand, the state wants to show that everyone is equal before the law, and that even a former president can become accused, but on the other hand, everyone has long understood that there are no fair elections, so each side uses the situation to its advantage. And Trump has the opportunity for free publicity because he is at the center of all the news.

 Okay, so I'd appreciate some helpful insights on this. Ex US president, Donald Trump has turned himself in at Fulton County Jail just as the heading reads after facing 13 counts of felony tied to his supposed involvement in trying to overturn the results of the 2020 election.
On Thursday, he made history by becoming the first president( sitting or former) to ever be detained or have his mugshots taken in a police file.

Won't his going to jail, even though it was some few hours thanks to a $200,000 bond affect his contesting for a presidential spot? I don't really know how the American law works but could this hinder him from getting a shot?

https://www.npr.org/2023/08/21/1195080489/donald-trump-georgia-booking