I don't like both. I'd rather they did not play politics
you are right.. they should sell some evil ideas to world not do politics...
And that selling of evil ideas is Politics.
Topic: Trump Vs Cruz (Read 1160 times)
you are right.. they should sell some evil ideas to world not do politics...
And that selling of evil ideas is Politics.
I don't like both. I'd rather they did not play politics
you are right.. they should sell some evil ideas to world not do politics...
I'd like to know what everyone thinks about the two, at least in regard to Pros and Cons for the two.
I'll start off with saying that I feel that Trump is outspoken, which can be a GOOD thing and a VERY BAD THING.
Cruz, I fully dislike the whole thing about "New York Values" that he said.
I'll start off with saying that I feel that Trump is outspoken, which can be a GOOD thing and a VERY BAD THING.
Cruz, I fully dislike the whole thing about "New York Values" that he said.
both of them are such bastards.. i dont have any feelings about them..
Maybe if you mash them together?
Can you picture Trump's hair and orange skin mixed with the troll-face of Cruz?
I'd like to know what everyone thinks about the two, at least in regard to Pros and Cons for the two.
I'll start off with saying that I feel that Trump is outspoken, which can be a GOOD thing and a VERY BAD THING.
Cruz, I fully dislike the whole thing about "New York Values" that he said.
I'll start off with saying that I feel that Trump is outspoken, which can be a GOOD thing and a VERY BAD THING.
Cruz, I fully dislike the whole thing about "New York Values" that he said.
both of them are such bastards.. i dont have any feelings about them..
I'd like to know what everyone thinks about the two, at least in regard to Pros and Cons for the two.
I'll start off with saying that I feel that Trump is outspoken, which can be a GOOD thing and a VERY BAD THING.
Cruz, I fully dislike the whole thing about "New York Values" that he said.
I'll start off with saying that I feel that Trump is outspoken, which can be a GOOD thing and a VERY BAD THING.
Cruz, I fully dislike the whole thing about "New York Values" that he said.
both of them are such bastards.. i dont have any feelings about them..
No offense to Cruz supporters, but I don't think that he can win the primary battle and I'm 100% certain that he can't win in the general election.
Well at least trump has his own money and he really knows what wrong in america but sometimes there are things he is doing/saying that doesnt add up.
True a lot of the stuff that he says is used to anger people and then gain social media / news attention. This seems to be working VERY well for him.
Well at least trump has his own money and he really knows what wrong in america but sometimes there are things he is doing/saying that doesnt add up.
I don't have much to say about Cruz, however, I feel that Trump has done a surprisingly successful job at digging himself out of the mess he was initially in when he first put word out that he would run for office. He went from being a joke to a influential candidate for the leader of our country.
No no no, I am saying about how Obama was accused of being a non-American citizen.
I'm not saying he isn't at all.
I'm not saying he isn't at all.
Yeah, I would never think it would be looked into further. Just like the whole Obama dilemma with the "Not being a Citizen thing" but at this point, Trump is actually doing well.
I'm not really that informed, but you mean to say Obama is not an American citizen?
Yeah, I would never think it would be looked into further. Just like the whole Obama dilemma with the "Not being a Citizen thing" but at this point, Trump is actually doing well.
But you have to be born in the US to become the President if I'm not mistaken by some crazy words that I missed by some chance.
Isn't it a Natural born US citizen?
Isn't it a Natural born US citizen?
Yes, but that has never been properly defined, so it's mostly meaningless...
It doesn't state you need to be born on US soil, or anything like that:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural-born-citizen_clause
Naw, it's just a bluff... it would never happen
The thing is... just by saying it... Trump damages Cruz reputation, stealing a few of his votes... he doesn't have to actually go through with it... One sentence out of his mouth gains him hundreds of thousands of votes... he's a smart(ish) man
But you have to be born in the US to become the President if I'm not mistaken by some crazy words that I missed by some chance.
Isn't it a Natural born US citizen?
Isn't it a Natural born US citizen?
Yes, but that has never been properly defined, so it's mostly meaningless...
It doesn't state you need to be born on US soil, or anything like that:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural-born-citizen_clause
Does it really matter who's going to be president? Nothing's gonna really change.
That depends on who wins... If Billary Clinton or Marco Roboto wins, you are correct
If Bernie or Trump or possibly Cruz wins... expect changes
Well yeah, if Trump is going to win I think we'll laugh more.
Does it really matter who's going to be president? Nothing's gonna really change.
That depends on who wins... If Billary Clinton or Marco Roboto wins, you are correct
If Bernie or Trump or possibly Cruz wins... expect changes
Does it really matter who's going to be president? Nothing's gonna really change.
But you have to be born in the US to become the President if I'm not mistaken by some crazy words that I missed by some chance.
Isn't it a Natural born US citizen?
Isn't it a Natural born US citizen?
Yes, but that has never been properly defined, so it's mostly meaningless...
It doesn't state you need to be born on US soil, or anything like that:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural-born-citizen_clause
But you have to be born in the US to become the President if I'm not mistaken by some crazy words that I missed by some chance.
Isn't it a Natural born US citizen?
Isn't it a Natural born US citizen?
But the thing is Cruz WAS actually born in Canada.
So, it's a weird subject.
So, it's a weird subject.
That doesn't mean much... an American can be born anywhere...
My parents met in the Army... my brother was born in Germany... he's an American because when he was born, my parents were given the choice of making him an American citizen, or a German citizen... since they were both Americans, they chose to make him an American too...
Now, Cruz is a bit different if both his parents actually voted in Canada, making them Canadians, not Americans... in that situation, Cruz should have never had the option of an American citizenship... but, nobody is going to take it from him now, it's too late... he's an American...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ex_post_facto
But the thing is Cruz WAS actually born in Canada.
So, it's a weird subject.
So, it's a weird subject.
Both Trump and Cruz seem extreme. And is it true that Cruz was born in Canada? Is he even eligible to be president? I mean, all the birthers (including Trump) were screaming that Obama was born in Kenya so he couldn't be eligible to be president, so that means they would also think Cruz is not eligible since it is an actual fact that he was born in Canada, right?
That is a tough question... Don't quote me on this... but...
I have heard that both(?) his parents were American citizens... but... shortly before Cruz was born, they voted in the Canadian election...
Now, America does not allow dual citizenship... so in order for them to vote in Canada, they would have needed to relinquish their American citizenship... so Cruz would have been born Canadian, not American...
Now... back in reality... that doesn't matter... Cruz was issued an American birth certificate, and nobody is going to try taking citizenship away from a Senator...
Trump has no intention of fighting that battle... he only mentions it because it takes 5 seconds to say, and takes 5% of Cruz's votes
Obama also has an American birth certificate, but that didn't stop the birthers from pursuing the issue. Cruz probably is eligible, but if he gains in the poles, I think he is going to get questioned about it more.
To be fair... Obama was elected president long before he produced the birth certificate
Also, Trump was the birther pushing the issue with Obama, and with Cruz... that's just his shtick
Both Trump and Cruz seem extreme. And is it true that Cruz was born in Canada? Is he even eligible to be president? I mean, all the birthers (including Trump) were screaming that Obama was born in Kenya so he couldn't be eligible to be president, so that means they would also think Cruz is not eligible since it is an actual fact that he was born in Canada, right?
That is a tough question... Don't quote me on this... but...
I have heard that both(?) his parents were American citizens... but... shortly before Cruz was born, they voted in the Canadian election...
Now, America does not allow dual citizenship... so in order for them to vote in Canada, they would have needed to relinquish their American citizenship... so Cruz would have been born Canadian, not American...
Now... back in reality... that doesn't matter... Cruz was issued an American birth certificate, and nobody is going to try taking citizenship away from a Senator...
Trump has no intention of fighting that battle... he only mentions it because it takes 5 seconds to say, and takes 5% of Cruz's votes
Obama also has an American birth certificate, but that didn't stop the birthers from pursuing the issue. Cruz probably is eligible, but if he gains in the poles, I think he is going to get questioned about it more.
Both Trump and Cruz seem extreme. And is it true that Cruz was born in Canada? Is he even eligible to be president? I mean, all the birthers (including Trump) were screaming that Obama was born in Kenya so he couldn't be eligible to be president, so that means they would also think Cruz is not eligible since it is an actual fact that he was born in Canada, right?
That is a tough question... Don't quote me on this... but...
I have heard that both(?) his parents were American citizens... but... shortly before Cruz was born, they voted in the Canadian election...
Now, America does not allow dual citizenship... so in order for them to vote in Canada, they would have needed to relinquish their American citizenship... so Cruz would have been born Canadian, not American...
Now... back in reality... that doesn't matter... Cruz was issued an American birth certificate, and nobody is going to try taking citizenship away from a Senator...
Trump has no intention of fighting that battle... he only mentions it because it takes 5 seconds to say, and takes 5% of Cruz's votes
It's not something you can fully compare, as some Socialism societies are created / treated in different ways. Take Denmark for example.
But as a most basic difference, Communism and Socialism are similar but Socialism is a LESSER extreme of it. Going into detail would be a bit tough.
But as a most basic difference, Communism and Socialism are similar but Socialism is a LESSER extreme of it. Going into detail would be a bit tough.
Socialism is not a less extreme version of communism.
It's also not tough.
Places like Norway and Denmark are so successful, because they are socialist countries.
Socialism, as I know, is where everyone is taxed, included (especially) the rich. That way, the government can pay for things like, healthcare, college tuition and managing things like roads and stuff.
People are paid for the quantity and quality of their work.
Quoted from here (http://www.marxmail.org/faq/same_pay.htm)
Quote
"Does everybody get the same pay in socialist society?
No, they do not. The skilled worker gets more than the unskilled; the manager gets more than the workman; the great musician gets more than the average musician; the farmer who produces 400 bushels of wheat gets more than the farmer who produces zoo; the miner who digs eight tons of coal gets more than the miner who digs six; and so on. People are paid according to the quality and quantity of their work.
The person who receives even the largest income in socialist society can continue to receive it only so long as he continues to earn it through work. He cannot ever convert it into unearned income by buying the means of production and then living on the labor of others. He cannot buy the means of production for the excellent reason that in socialist society the means of production belong to the people and are not for sale. The higher pay he receives by dint of harder or better work enables him to live better than others who earn less; but his higher pay does not enable him to exploit anyone else.
Though there is inequality of pay in socialist society, there is equality of opportunity. Though skilled workers get higher pay, unskilled workers have ready access to the training and experience necessary to become skilled; though administrators, engineers, writers, artists get higher pay, free education for all in proportion to their ability to learn opens wide the entrance doors to these professions."
No, they do not. The skilled worker gets more than the unskilled; the manager gets more than the workman; the great musician gets more than the average musician; the farmer who produces 400 bushels of wheat gets more than the farmer who produces zoo; the miner who digs eight tons of coal gets more than the miner who digs six; and so on. People are paid according to the quality and quantity of their work.
The person who receives even the largest income in socialist society can continue to receive it only so long as he continues to earn it through work. He cannot ever convert it into unearned income by buying the means of production and then living on the labor of others. He cannot buy the means of production for the excellent reason that in socialist society the means of production belong to the people and are not for sale. The higher pay he receives by dint of harder or better work enables him to live better than others who earn less; but his higher pay does not enable him to exploit anyone else.
Though there is inequality of pay in socialist society, there is equality of opportunity. Though skilled workers get higher pay, unskilled workers have ready access to the training and experience necessary to become skilled; though administrators, engineers, writers, artists get higher pay, free education for all in proportion to their ability to learn opens wide the entrance doors to these professions."
That way, everyone can get paid to the extent of the quality and quantity of their work, while taxes, albeit being taxes, allow you free healthcare/tuition/good roads and such.
That is my understanding of socialism, and I see absolutely nothing wrong with that.
Both Trump and Cruz seem extreme. And is it true that Cruz was born in Canada? Is he even eligible to be president? I mean, all the birthers (including Trump) were screaming that Obama was born in Kenya so he couldn't be eligible to be president, so that means they would also think Cruz is not eligible since it is an actual fact that he was born in Canada, right?
Cruz is an angry, friendless, corrupt snake.
Trump could be as dangerous as Hitler, but (sometimes) much more funny.
So due to him being funny, he should be elected?Trump could be as dangerous as Hitler, but (sometimes) much more funny.
No.
At least we get to laugh a bit before the whole mess gets worse.
He just has that evil vibe to me.
Speaking of his face... I saw this video the other day
Science explains why you want to punch Ted Cruz in the face
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSxCT1Faw6k
I'm not familiar enough with his policies to be able to say which ones I like and dislike. 
Well that was honest and unexpected...
The policies that I have heard Bernie state (beyond his 40-year track record of voting for civil rights, gay rights, etc)...
Bernie wants to get rid of private for-profit insurance companies... who are basically just a middleman making your health insurance more expensive than it needs to be... this has been estimated to save the average American around $5,000 per year
Bernie wants to fix tax loopholes that let billionaires get away with paying a 5% tax rate on capital gains, while the middle-class is stuck with 35% federal + state tax + fica + medicare + social security...
Bernie also wants to reinstate Glass–Steagall... which should have never been repealed, and is single-handedly responsible for the real-estate/stock-market crash/bailout a few years ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass–Steagall_Legislation (Cliff notes: prevents banks from gambling with your money)
Picture banks losing $50,000,000,000 playing SatoshiDice... then asking the US government for another $50,000,000,000 to continue gambling (nobody fixed the loophole allowing them to keep gambling)
Bernie wants to make college free for all citizens who wish to attend... Like many European countries have already done
Bernie is the man with the plan
#FeelTheBern
It's not something you can fully compare, as some Socialism societies are created / treated in different ways. Take Denmark for example.
But as a most basic difference, Communism and Socialism are similar but Socialism is a LESSER extreme of it. Going into detail would be a bit tough.
But as a most basic difference, Communism and Socialism are similar but Socialism is a LESSER extreme of it. Going into detail would be a bit tough.
I'm not familiar enough with his policies to be able to say which ones I like and dislike.
Please respond to my last query.
I'm not familiar enough with his policies to be able to say which ones I like and dislike.
I'll admit I agree with some parts of what Bernie says, such as "If you don't want to take care of the Veterans, dont send them to war" I fully get that and it makes sense.
But I support the free market and not a lot of Gov intervention, but I'm not one to say that Communism and Socialism are the same AS THEY ARE NOT.
So explain socialism and why it is different But I support the free market and not a lot of Gov intervention, but I'm not one to say that Communism and Socialism are the same AS THEY ARE NOT.
I'll admit I agree with some parts of what Bernie says, such as "If you don't want to take care of the Veterans, dont send them to war" I fully get that and it makes sense.
But I support the free market and not a lot of Gov intervention, but I'm not one to say that Communism and Socialism are the same AS THEY ARE NOT.
But I support the free market and not a lot of Gov intervention, but I'm not one to say that Communism and Socialism are the same AS THEY ARE NOT.
Could you elaborate on exactly which of Bernie's policies that you disagree with?
Cruz is an angry, friendless, corrupt snake.
Trump could be as dangerous as Hitler, but (sometimes) much more funny.
So due to him being funny, he should be elected?Trump could be as dangerous as Hitler, but (sometimes) much more funny.
No.
At least we get to laugh a bit before the whole mess gets worse.
He just has that evil vibe to me.
Speaking of his face... I saw this video the other day
Science explains why you want to punch Ted Cruz in the face
I'll admit I agree with some parts of what Bernie says, such as "If you don't want to take care of the Veterans, dont send them to war" I fully get that and it makes sense.
But I support the free market and not a lot of Gov intervention, but I'm not one to say that Communism and Socialism are the same AS THEY ARE NOT.
But I support the free market and not a lot of Gov intervention, but I'm not one to say that Communism and Socialism are the same AS THEY ARE NOT.
I couldn't agree with you at all on the Democratic candidates at all, Clinton is-- nope.
Bernie is a Socialist, which I don't agree with at all, LIKE NOT EVEN A LITTLE BIT.
Bernie is a Socialist, which I don't agree with at all, LIKE NOT EVEN A LITTLE BIT.
Is that based on an informed opinion of Bernie's policies, or is it because America indoctrinated you into believing that socialist is an evil word?
#FeelTheBern
I couldn't agree with you at all on the Democratic candidates at all, Clinton is-- nope.
Bernie is a Socialist, which I don't agree with at all, LIKE NOT EVEN A LITTLE BIT.
Bernie is a Socialist, which I don't agree with at all, LIKE NOT EVEN A LITTLE BIT.
And why is socialism bad?
Besides the whole facism=communism=socialism little propaganda the US used to have.
Exactly what I said
. I couldn't agree with you at all on the Democratic candidates at all, Clinton is-- nope.
Bernie is a Socialist, which I don't agree with at all, LIKE NOT EVEN A LITTLE BIT.
Bernie is a Socialist, which I don't agree with at all, LIKE NOT EVEN A LITTLE BIT.
Is that based on an informed opinion of Bernie's policies, or is it because America indoctrinated you into believing that socialist is an evil word?
#FeelTheBern
I couldn't agree with you at all on the Democratic candidates at all, Clinton is-- nope.
Bernie is a Socialist, which I don't agree with at all, LIKE NOT EVEN A LITTLE BIT.
Bernie is a Socialist, which I don't agree with at all, LIKE NOT EVEN A LITTLE BIT.
And why is socialism bad?
Besides the whole facism=communism=socialism little propaganda the US used to have.
I couldn't agree with you at all on the Democratic candidates at all, Clinton is-- nope.
Bernie is a Socialist, which I don't agree with at all, LIKE NOT EVEN A LITTLE BIT.
Bernie is a Socialist, which I don't agree with at all, LIKE NOT EVEN A LITTLE BIT.
Cruz is an angry, friendless, corrupt snake.
Trump could be as dangerous as Hitler, but (sometimes) much more funny.
So due to him being funny, he should be elected?Trump could be as dangerous as Hitler, but (sometimes) much more funny.
No.
At least we get to laugh a bit before the whole mess gets worse.
He just has that evil vibe to me.
He is evil, but is by far no lesser of two evils.
You have to decide between far-right christian, or racist scumbag.
Cruz literally has no plans for being president, besides taking down Obamacare, which is retarded.
Mixture of church and state, or deja vu of throwing ethnicities in concentration camps.
Good thing is, only one of them, if they indeed are selected, will be a candidate in the end.
And I hope America can get it's shit together and vote against them.
Honestly, regardless of who they are, any Democratic candidate running is 10x better than the GOP candidates.
Cruz is an angry, friendless, corrupt snake.
Trump could be as dangerous as Hitler, but (sometimes) much more funny.
So due to him being funny, he should be elected?Trump could be as dangerous as Hitler, but (sometimes) much more funny.
No.
At least we get to laugh a bit before the whole mess gets worse.
He just has that evil vibe to me.
Cruz is an angry, friendless, corrupt snake.
Trump could be as dangerous as Hitler, but (sometimes) much more funny.
So due to him being funny, he should be elected?Trump could be as dangerous as Hitler, but (sometimes) much more funny.
No.
At least we get to laugh a bit before the whole mess gets worse.
I don't like both. I'd rather they did not play politics
Cruz is an angry, friendless, corrupt snake.
Trump could be as dangerous as Hitler, but (sometimes) much more funny.
So due to him being funny, he should be elected?Trump could be as dangerous as Hitler, but (sometimes) much more funny.
Cruz is an angry, friendless, corrupt snake.
Trump could be as dangerous as Hitler, but (sometimes) much more funny.
Trump could be as dangerous as Hitler, but (sometimes) much more funny.
Cruz is more like a professional politician and trump is the next president.
Did you see the personal attacks that Obama made towards Trump? That's really showing his more petty side.
Cruz is more like a professional politician and trump is the next president.
I'd like to know what everyone thinks about the two, at least in regard to Pros and Cons for the two.
I'll start off with saying that I feel that Trump is outspoken, which can be a GOOD thing and a VERY BAD THING.
Cruz, I fully dislike the whole thing about "New York Values" that he said.
I'll start off with saying that I feel that Trump is outspoken, which can be a GOOD thing and a VERY BAD THING.
Cruz, I fully dislike the whole thing about "New York Values" that he said.
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