Topic: Trump - what is he DOING? like it or don't like it, discuss (Read 3784 times)

The technology is getting more and more advanced, and our lives are being made easier. So the hope is definitely there, unless you are living in Somalia or North Korea. My life is definitely better now, when compared to 10 years ago.

Not only a question of education.
It's a question of hope.
Who would like to have children when you see where the world is heading? 

Extremely low and unsustainable birth rates, such as those in Poland, Italy, South Korea.etc are not going to help, and it is not a sign of prosperity. Also, the birth rate in North Korea is lower than that in the United States.

Allowed an abortion or not is irrelevant to fertility. If you need to abort a pole could go to any neighboring country and do it. The number of children depends on the education and mentality. What education is higher the lower the birth rate. This is probably due to the desire of parents to ensure a good future for their children.

Makes no difference.  The very point is that no "subtle message" was actually sent.

Here, corrected that for you

There are several policies and plans that I do not agree with Donald Trump on. The main two issues that would have a major impact in my opinion would be the environment and health care.

He claims he has an excellent plan to replace the ACA with something better. I've looked at the plans some republicans proposed one being Rand Paul's plan most of it is just to return to the older system where HSA would have no limits and wouldn't require a high deductible to have it. They keep talking about how it will be great, but they never get into how it will protect the 20 million some people who are at risk of losing it. He talks about being able to buy insurance across state lines. That still doesn't deal with the pre existing condition for so many sick people who are unable to afford it. Plus, he promised not to cut social security or medicaid and medicare. He said it multiple times, and the media claims Trump is lying. I don't think he is lying, it's just his party in the congress that are trying to do it. Doesn't mean Trump will agree to it.

Second is the environment. I get it there are a lot of regulations which I personally know people who are impacted by the regulations which are absurd. It hasn't really been that effective at dealing with lead in water and other means. It needs a major reform and a lot of people probably need to be fired and replaced with more intelligent people who will work harder. That's not what he is doing though. It isn't the end if EPA is eliminated. If you are fortunate enough to live in California or a few other states they already have plans to reduce carbon emissions to protecting the water. It doesn't always have to be up to the federal government. But, true, not all states will do that.

I can't do much about it. I can just hope he changes his mind on the issues.

You can tell him yourself...vote here: https://action.trump2016.com/trump-mms-survey/

Most of his decisions I don't like. I will like lowered taxes for Corporations and individuals. I do like his stance on Israel / Palestine. But the guy has to be off the charts on the low end of the IQ scale. He blatantly lies about the most basic facts - lied today about his Electoral Votes lead. Hahah. What a joke this guy is.

I believe that abortion rights are beneficial to the demographic health of a country. Take the case of Catholic nations such as Poland and Italy, where performing abortions are very difficult. The fertility rate there is around 1.3 children per woman. On the other hand, in countries such as Belarus and Russia (where abortion is perfectly legal), the fertility rate is around 1.8 children per woman.

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I see your point.

As it being the first thing it "sends a message."

I would hazard a guess that Trump really isn't sensitive to subtle messaging like that.

Just my guess though.

Difference is it's like THE FIRST THING HE'S DONE

Yeah it's not a really big deal, but that was one of his first actions!
The first actions of a president are the first engagement of the whole nation towards the long term project of the head of the state!
That's not really the kind of big project I'd like to follow...

I wonder what gave these countries a ban on abortion? I'll tell you anything. This idiocy is engaged in Islamic and Catholic countries. But fortunately for women in these countries always have neighbors who will gladly help to terminate the pregnancy.

Lol, sounds reasonable enough. 

Although to be 'feminist of the century,' he'd have to be a clown.

it's early days and he has a lot of people around him who would like to restrict women's rights. the foreign abortion thing is no big deal really, other presidents have restricted it before and no one said much, but let's see how things pan out before we declare him feminist of the century.

It's a purposeful mix up, a mis information tactic by the opposition.  They're flailing trying to find things that will stick as negatives to the Trump operation.

So smear him as anti-women's rights.  Hey, it's worked against republicans in the past.

Problem is, Trump isn't Republican and the old tactics aren't going to work against him.

The only thing that he's done relating to anti-abortion at the moment was from his executive action making sure that federal funds aren't going to fund abortions in foreign / other countries. I don't really see a need for tax payer funds to be going to abortion / abortion education in other countries in the least, that money should be going to people who really deserve it the US citizens and veterans who are in the nation we love.

Though the Republican platform is anti-abortion so I suppose I can see the mix up within the two.

So your argument is "they did the same"?
Well that's a bit... Limited...
But true. He's maybe not worst than Obama or Hillary. He's just not better that's for sure.
He's a politician. He doesn't care for his country and his people.

Trump turned politics into a show. It seems to me that he does not understand the seriousness of the situation. In politics, any careless word can cause war, and he a few weeks offended half the world.

Well, here's the latest weekly show, then.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ovckw9JkZxQ&list=TLGGOFeIVG4bxsgxMjAyMjAxNw

I think that what he is doing is putting on a show. Donald Trump wanted to be the most famous person in the world, he thrives on it. And now he has accomplish that. And I predict he will continue to put on a show simply for the headlines.

Not loving this guy so far. He seems like a child who does what he thinks is cool but doesn't really care of how it impacts "others". Just waiting for all his plans to explode back on his face. Smelling impeachment soon.

Working people doesn't have much time for logging into Facebook 24X7. It is mostly the welfare rats and the unemployed youth who are using Facebook. So it is not surprising that the social media users are against Donald Trump.

So the blunt and rash talk cuts in all directions? 

pointing out US hypocrisy to Bill O'reilly


https://youtu.be/tDdkpKm_xsA

https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/02/04/president-trumps-second-week-action
What he did in Week 2.

 PRESIDENT TRUMP’S SECOND WEEK OF ACTION

    7: Presidential Actions to Make America Great Again
    4: Diplomatic conversations with foreign leaders to promote an America First foreign policy.
    4: Meetings to get input from workers and business leaders on jumpstarting job creation.
    2: Events for the nomination of Judge Gorsuch to the Supreme Court
    2: Events to commemorate African American History Month
    2: Members of President Trump’s Cabinet sworn in.
    1: Bill signed into law
    1: Meeting with cyber security experts
    1: Commemoration of American Heart Month
    1: Speech at the National Prayer Breakfast
    1: Letter of Recognition for National Catholic Schools Week

Following Through On His Promise To The American People, President Trump Nominated Judge Neil Gorsuch To The Supreme Court

I think that people voted for Trump because they hate ordinary politicians and don't trust them anymore.
So, instead of regular politician, they chose businessman
What he is doing?
It's obvious that he is lost and have no idea what he is doing.
More and more people inside and out of the America protest against him, on daily basis.
I really hope that he will find some good advisors and change his confusing policy now or he will make many more enemies and weaken America.

I think that people voted for him because he promised them a story. The Americans who voted for Trump poorly versed in politics and Economics. Trump banal populist. He will not be able to improve the situation of Americans.

As what I can see through social media I can say that 90% of the people don't like him, others are comparing him to Obama and they will tell that this man is not doing his work, his not good for the country and I'm thinking then why people voted for him? I just really hope that he will do everything good and the best as he can.

fair enough

There were many, many things Obama said I knew to be lies or half truths

I don't believe him! Also, I do not share his opinions. It is not convincing. I am sure that the anti-immigration he did not succeed. Attempt to drive business in America in General can cause a person to stop existing businesses.

Well, here's what he himself has to say about all that. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCVwv56ob0k

As nothing significant? A controversial law about immigration? A ban on issuing visas? And the fact that he ruined America's relationship with the world? And this is only the beginning. What to expect from him yet? A third world war?

It's early days yet to say something. He's done nothing noticeable yet

Can't you see that Trump has no strategy. He's like a little kid playing President. He doesn't understand that every word of the President of such great country as America has global significance. For him, it shows.

hillary would've been depressing in another way, but what the hell does playing with your daddy's and the bank's money have to do with successfully running a country?

shouting in boardrooms at people you employ and therefore control does not in any way produce the skills needed to manoeuvre your way around a hostile world teeming with millions of competing interests.

it requires strategic thinking, subtlety and diplomacy. i haven't seen evidence of any of this from him so far.

Suspend business while investing their foreign enterprises. This is not to say that they will invest in America. It says that they handle the situation. Do not be surprised if they folded the business in America too.

Even as we are debating about this, he has prevented more and more companies from shifting their operations overseas. It is clear once again that Trump gives preference to the American citizen, unlike Obama who prioritized his own coreligionists.

Let's be clear - he is a semi-successful real estate developer but a much better promoter of his name.  He is also a celebrity.  He didn't make his money in normal business, but made it thru selling his brand.  He has had his share of large flops (Trump Steaks, Trump Vodka, Trump University), and his taste is rather gawdy, but for some reason his name is still big on real estate development. 

I personally don't think he is worth as much as he claims, but we will never know.

That being said, he has had a few too many tantrums already.  Hopefully the gravity of the office catches up to him and he matures.

He already created new jobs, if you were too google it up you'd see. Well those "allies" were more of a second US territory. You will see too and even by some strange case he fails, he cannot be worse than Obongo.

Have you talked with the man? Have you seen him make childish decisions yet? He's a successful businessman, so he is smarter than the average guy, because life shows that most people either lose money or don't gain much throughout their lives. This man had money and now he also has power. Do you think Hilary was a better option?

And I disagree with you. Just Trump the old imbecile whose mind is exactly the same as a child. He not only plays with children's drawings but also takes children's decisions. And this idiot President of the USA

You are correct.  I was making a joke.

I dont see anything wrong with how he proceeds with his presentation. In that picture the drawing was probably of a child and its so kind of him to use a kids drawing to present in front of many people in one of his meetings. Other presidents have no guts doing it, its not embarrassing but it just shows that children has a place on his heart and thats why he is against abortion.

I have a very bad opinion about Trump. For some reason it seems that voting for the idiot Trump it was not so much support for this clown how much attempt one half of Americans to take revenge on the other half.

No I do not, however it's fascinating how people have such divergent opinions of this man.

What you don't consider Trump a clown? Moreover, I believe that it is not just a clown, evil clown, the Joker! I do think that he's just playing politics. It is interesting to verify how long he will be able with impunity to do evil.

A lot of people have certainly called him a clown.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMw8NFu-ess

I hope that Americans will unite in the struggle with this old clown and will not give him the opportunity to survive as President until the end of the term. The sooner this clown leaves office the less harm it will bring to America.

True it has just started being 14 days into it since taking office. You either got to take it or move your self and family to somewhere out of the reach of his governing body or some might say his dictatorship.
I am not one of those btw.
Exactly or do what Arnie just did and invite him to take your job and you can do his and see how many days you can survive being in office and being hated by most of your citizens.
Ratings for the apprentice will suffer this season and for the next four years until Trump goes back to a much easier tv sitcom then the presidency.

The show is good, but only when it does not apply to the President and the life of the country. Trump turned politics into the controversial show. He's an old idiot. This show will be bad for America, but to reshoot the show will not work.

Fist of all democracy is not some holy grail of political systems, it is flawed and tainted system, and we can see it clearer in EU, where bureaucracy won over sanity and created migrant crisis.
Secondly, Trump is a president chosen by people, by democratic rules, let him do his things and he won't be a president second time if he fail.
Thirdly, can you be more specific and tell us what exactly is so wrong with Trump and how exactly he is bad? Because crooked mainstream media says so?

No I don't like what he's doing. He acts like obstinate usurper and foe to democracy

I love how Trump creates controversy we should enjoy the show guys.

I'm trying to decide if the American people could Get It, if it was presented to them this way.


Hmm....

Mean well? Mean well for himself or someone else? But it was Trump in issuing the policy have a purpose and will certainly be controversial to many people around the world. Such as visa refusal of some Muslim countries, and certainly it would be hurt them. While much protesting, but he like did not care and continue his policy, is completely contrary as the democratic system in America. I personally include people who opposed him, and I do not like the policy that he created.

Maybe not, this time.  You think?  Or is it another damn war to be thrust upon us by war mongering monkeys?

A lot of Americans - maybe, judging from the election, a majority - view the "world order" as a major problem.  The so called "New World Order" with it's premises basically those George Soros and others like him conceptualized.  The world order that was being pushed on the United States.

My opinion is that it never made any sense.

I am not directly affected by his actions in recent times. I am neither a citizen of the United States neither am I a citizen of  the recently banned countries. But in all I believe he meant well in taking a decision but the fall out of the decisions is what he didn't think through because everything is connected and one rash decision can change the world order which is very fragile at the moment.

The list is just starting. Once we have found a way to live a thousand years in good health, then we might be able to relax a little.

Why are you so bothered about it? He is an American citizen and you are an Ukrainian. Obviously, the Americans are going to vote for someone who is good for them, rather than being good for the foreign nationals. The hope is on Trump, and not on Russia.

Though some of his orders are a bit strange:

once everyone's grown fat and happy and complacent then it's time for some wars of course. or the final solution.

Lol consider for a second the "sheer speed that they're ripping through their pledges."

Okay, so he's going to be through with that list pretty soon.

What THEN?  Are there more lists?  Where?  Whose?

Now that's either great or cringworthy, depending on your point of view.

he isn't the usual politician that wants to just bullshit the citizen with some made up words, if he wants to curse. he does it. he wants to send home those undocumented individuals then its good for the country. end their suffering - send them back.

Poor baby. Trump's gettin' to you, ain't he.     

Trump's First Executive Order Guts IRS Enforcement "Frees Middle Class of Obamacare Penalties"







Trump’s 1st Ex. Order Gutted IRS Enforcement of Obamacare, 1472

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkZL8A4dzoY


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He is definitely an entertainer.  It shows a lack of political experience.  He cannot speak or write.
If I were him, I would just be quiet and do my job.

Although, I agree with most of his team wants to do, I'd tone down on the publicity.

This presidency will be one long soap opera with at least 4 seasons.

We don't care what he thinks about guy so and so, or what so and so said about Trump or what Trump replied on twitter.

He should shut the fuck up and do his job.


 

From what I heard lately in his speeches:
America has been taken advantage of by other countries for the longest time.
He did state that enough is enough and he is not having anymore of it.

This did become apparent when Mexico president whom is hating him for taking American jobs out of his country when he sent him El Chapo Mexican drug lord to the states and said this was a "present from the Mexico government to the newly appointed president of the United States". This is purely a power move and a spat on the face of him because he said he wanted to keep the "mean hombres" out of the U.S with the action of building "The Wall" at the border to keep the criminals out. And what does he do in his first act towards the states? Send one directly to them.
What the fricking heck is that? Unreal. 
It is becoming as unbelievable as a Tele Novella soap opera the way this administration is turning out to be.

overall i am admiring the sheer speed that they're ripping through their pledges. but there's an air of unreality and unworldliness that's hanging around them. i'm not totally convinced they realise they're in charge of a real country and their actions have real consequences yet.

the previous occupants of the white house might have been bought and paid for stiffs, but there was an element of measure that seems to be lacking here.

This comes on the heels of Obama and Hitlery being told what to do by George Soros, Obama and Hitlery flagrantly disregarding the rule of law and the constitution in many ways, and cowing and intimidating the entire country.

How can you ignore that reality?

Sorry but it does seem like cries of alarm are being raised when Trump works to correct the 8 years of mismanagement, intimidation and ignoring of the Constitution.

How can this be?  Maybe because the overall push is in the direction one likes or dislikes?

donald isn't doing anything. he's being told what to do by this steve bannon guy. how does a non elected racist with no qualifications end up in a key position running an entire country?

there will come a point where their actions directly clash with the constitution in some way. they're just not thinking anything through thoroughly enough, or they simply don't care or understand. none of these people seem to have any experience. it's gonna be very interesting to see who rounds on them when that happens. i hope it's everyone.

they really don't seem to get the difference between business and running a real country. you can only get so far by lying, bullying and threatening when the really important stuff is on the line. there are many millions of people who make up the apparatus. you can't fire them all and you can't cow them all either.

Do not believe! He is the worst President of America. Very soon you will see for yourself. Already America turned away almost all her allies. You lay great hopes on Russia? And it will help to create new jobs?

Trump is the best US president I've ever seen in my lifetime. I will vote him in 2020 also.

I like everything he's doing now. I like the immigration ban, I like the abortion ban.

Only the mexican wall project isn't smart, but it's not a bad idea, just too expensive.

In the army really can not argue with the commander. This can disrupt the plan of action, but do not forget that the plan was approved at the headquarters and at the time of his making sure there was a bet and selected the best strategy. Trump also thinks he's God.

Reminds me of a army colonel I knew who said "Sonny we don't need the best plan, we just need a plan and we need troopers who will follow it and head up that hill and take that hill."  I admit to not arguing with him.  Ever.

lol...

Is it really necessary to mis state the facts?

At issue is government paid versus private paid abortion, not the right to abortion.  Don't mistake it, I think strong arguments can be made for government paid abortion. 

But "legalization of abortion" was decided decades ago, with Roe vs. Wade.

There have also been studies showing that legalization of abortion has had positive socio-economic impacts on mothers who would be unable to care for and pay for a child born with out proper family assistance. Further there's been studies showing correlation between abortion legality and reduced crime 15-20 years later (the time at which a generation of "unwanted" children would have been old enough to commit crime). Causation has been debated.

This is less of a Trump agenda item and more of a core conservative Republican agenda item. It just became easy and convenient to stop funding for such items due to budget approval legislation that came through just as Trump started his term.

So far, I have complaints only on his anti-abortion policy. This will create unwanted babies, burdening the state exchequer in the future (in the form of increased welfare payments). Other than that, he is doing pretty good. I wish him all the best!

Most of it I don't like.

I'll be happy when he lowers taxes.

The reason I don't like it is because he's shooting from the hip, making rash decisions without thinking through the correct approach or full impact.

Spending $25b on a wall between the border of US and Mexico is a foolish way to spend money and won't achieve the intended target of stopping illegal immigration from the south. Bush Jr. tried to do the same thing with a fence and did such a shitty job the fence stops at the slightest hillside. Walls can be beaten with ladders. Every terrorist to enter the country did so by plane. All drugs smuggled into the country come by way of tunnel. He could spend $25b giving more people border patrol jobs.

Banning immigration has been a foolish rollout - banning lawful residents from entering their Country. Trump should have spent 90 days figuring out how to implement an immigration ban correctly.

That's me...others?

Official list of actions by the White House.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/blog

Youtube Trump "Transition 2017" channel.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_NRgn1L4zVWPOEI5Mt5Tog

Reddit feed
https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/