Topic: Trump's win, not convincing enough! (Read 1016 times)

Trump, Musk and Ramaswamy are going to clean up government across America. It's happening right now. Government people across America are quitting because they are fearful of the 'threat' of Musk telling them that he will prosecute them if they hang around until Trump gets into office, Jan. 20.

The money that will be saved will help us go back to the moon, and later to Mars. China is making gigantic strides to the moon. More than likely there will be war up there, between us and China, maybe even before Trump's second term is over.

Why go to the moon? Did you ever notice that the same side always faces the earth? It's because of gravity. This side of the moon is full of heavy, precious metals that keep this side of the moon facing Earth. And it will be a fight with China to see who is going to get this wealth.

You are right, Trump promises freedom and of course, his support for Bitcoin and others has indeed helped rekindle the hope in the space which is evident in how cryptocurrency rises across the market board and we are all smiling to our wallets in our little ways. But don't you think we should not be selfish and also think outside the bracket? I know he is not going to do anything in the crypto space, it is an empty promise for he doesn't have the power to deregulate such a sensitive industry and also make Bitcoin a national reserve. Again, personally, my Trump dislike is beyond crypto but his person, a man with so many lies, arrogance and too many bad antecedents can never be my person.

I am just glad that Trump will drive people over the edge into a psychosis. Americans are fucked up creatures who need a good ass whooping and who will all go to Hell. If you know a Kamala supporter, you should probably make up some whacked up shit about what will happen when Trump becomes president. TELL THE KAMALA SUPPORTERS THAT TRUMP WILL LOCK THEM UP FOR NOT VOTING FOR HIM. TELL THE KAMALA SUPPORTERS THAT WE WILL HAVE WAR WITH RUSSIA AND THEY WILL FUCKING DIE. TELL THEM! DRIVE THEM DEEPER INTO PSYCHOSIS. THEY DESERVE TO SUFFER FROM PSYCHOSIS!

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

This is not just about Trump, all politicians are like that, but what most of us are concerned about is the influence he would have on crypto. Just before the elections, Trump said some really positive things about crypto that increased public awareness which has in turn boosted bitcoin price just few hours after presidential elections outcome, and up till now, we are still seeing that positive impact. Now, that is what most of us are interested in. We know politicians are not to be trusted, but the few results we have seen so far has given us hope. Lets be excited now we still can, you know we won't die from hoping for the best.

He doesn't have to own his new business. It can be in trust, for example, without him even being the trustee.

He isn't trying to hide. Just the opposite. He's out there promoting the news. Do you think that other reporters never make a mistake? Part of his prosecution was political persecution because of the great amount of truth he was revealing. He might even have been right about Sandy Hook, but caved because of political pressure.

It does not matter what his new methods are or the names of the new companies he is going to found from now on, that is the downside of his business, he is always going to be a public figure and he won't be able to hide which is new venture is, as soon as the federals realize he is accumulating wealth again his new business is going to be auctioned off as well to continue to pay for the billion dollar he owes to his victims.
Unless he gives up to being a reporter and starts a business which does not have anything to do with his figure, all he accumulates will end up in the pockets of those poor parents which continue to be harassed to this day because of that idiot called Jones.

I am afraid, he will have to ask Elon Musk for a billion dollar donation so he can continue his news business, don't you think? A little bailout.

You don't seem to understand that "infowars" is simply one name of thousands of potential names. Alex might have a bit of a hard time of it. I, personally don't like his methods, and I think that a lot of people don't. But right now he is building a new company - somewhat secretly - to pick right up where he left off with Infowars.

So, he had to pay for a mistake. He has learned, and the new methods (that he is using already) will make him one of the most solid news reporters in the world.

Sure, everyone makes a mistake now and then, have any of your mistakes cost you to lose a lawsuit of over 1 billion dollars, by the way? If so, it must be very stressing, isn't it?
Also, Infowars (what is left of it) is no more, it is going to be auctioned off eventually and it seems pretty much is going to end up being a new branch of the Onion, quite ironic... Infowars is going to turn into a parody of its former vision.

That is what happened when you take innocent people who lost their children and you make their life hell continuously during several years.

My post was a general thing. So you really think that I post everything that I see? And you think that other people only go to my sources?

As for Alex Jones, everybody makes a mistake now and again... including the court that 'voted' against Alex Jones. But, his history shows that he was right on almost everything. And the fact that the auction against Infowars was changed shows that some people are waking up to the Alex fact.

It is quite ironic you even mention one is not supposed to believe what one reads or sees on social media or anything from the news, because you are being biased on that affirmation.
So we cannot whether the incoming Trump administration will worsen the situation in the middle east, unless we go and see for ourselves... can we apply the same criteria to the information coming from Russian agencies or even from Alex Jones/Infowars ?

I bet when Alex Jones started to rant about school shootings being a false flag for the government to take your guns you did not think: "Okey, I cannot trust this guy, I must go to Sandy Hooks and see for myself", no... you fell for whatever that conman had to say about the death of little children and be part of the public which filled his pocket by purchasing merchandise and drinkable silver.  

Of course, we don't know that 'the Trump administration is a worsening of the situation in the middle east'. All we get is what the media tells us, unless we actually go visit, ourselves.


FIGHTING BACK: President Trump Sues Leftist Media Outlets Including the New York Times for Total of $10 Billion, Alleges Multiple “False and Defamatory” Statements

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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/11/fighting-back-president-trump-sues-leftist-media-outlets/
While President Trump is poised to return to the White House following his landslide election victory over Kamala Harris, he has not forgotten the multiple lies from corporate media outlets seeking to ruin his political career and life.

Columbia Journalism Review reported on Thursday that just days before the presidential election, Trump's lawyer, Edward Andrew Paltzik, sent a letter to the far-left New York Times and Penguin Random House demanding $10 billion in damages awarded to Trump for "false and defamatory statements." The letter points to specific statements about Trump in articles by Peter Baker, Michael S. Schmidt, Susanne Craig, and Russ Buettner.

The letter highlights two stories by Buettner and Craig are connected to their new book, "Lucky Loser: How Donald Trump Squandered His Father's Fortune and Created the Illusion of Success." The CJR reports the letter also mentions an October 20 article by Baker titled "For Trump, a Lifetime of Scandals Heads Toward a Moment of Judgment," and an October 22 article by Schmidt with the title "As Election Nears, Kelly Warns Trump Would Rule Like a Dictator."

The letter accused the outlet of having "every intention of defaming and disparaging the world-renowned Trump brand that consumers have long associated with excellence, luxury, and success in entertainment, hospitality, and real estate, among many other industries, as well as falsely and maliciously defaming and disparaging him as a candidate for the highest office in the United States."

The Times responded in a curt statement on October 31 that it stood by its reporting.

The Trump campaign then filed a six-page complaint that same day with the Federal Election Commission, alleging that the Washington Post made illegal in-kind contributions to Harris's campaign over promoted stories. The Post has denied the claims.

CJR further reports that on November 5, lawyers for Trump's campaign co-chief Chris LaCivita sent a letter to the Daily Beast, saying the liberal outlet fibbed about LaCivita raising $22m to help Trump's re-election.
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I don't think there are actual plans within the Trump administration to negotiate with Iran. You must remember that before Trump getting elected back in 2016, Barack Obama had secured a nuclear deal with the Islamic republic of Iran, making sure they would not pursue the development of nuclear weapons and in exchange Iran would have been allowed to freely engage in commerce and lift all the international sanction imposed upon the regime of Tehran.
So my personal prediction for the Trump administration is a worsening of the situation in the middle east with more weapons and money sent to Israel, though I doubt Trump would dare to send military ground units seeking to support Israel because people would realize he is being a warmonger and he has tried to sell himself as a peace keeper.

He won deservedly, held a great election campaign, did everything properly. Now he must fulfill his promise.

I agree with you on this, I believe that as soon as he takes office he will seek to end the war in Ukraine and Russia immediately after. I also believe that he will push Ukraine to accept losses in this war instead of negotiating with Russia because that is much more difficult. Recently, President Zelenskyy also reacted negatively in an interview with Radio Ukraine. He said even the United States could not force them to sit down and listen at the negotiating table, which could indicate that Trump had set conditions that were not what he expected.

Regarding the war in the Middle East, I think he will not seek to stop it and will continue to support Israel because America's interests in the Middle East largely depend on Israel. But things may not get any worse as some reports say Trump will try to negotiate with Tehran before moving forward with plans to impose tough sanctions.



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Trump's political career is not over yet, he still has four years ahead of him and even after the end of this second term he still is going to have quite of a great influence on the voting population (depending how popular he manages to get by the end of this term), he could easily use that power to appoint someone he chooses as the next leader of the Republican party, for example, one of his adult children to give continuation to MAGA for the years to come, beyond his retirement.
It is a political career, that is how I call it.

On the other hand, it is clear the political career of Joe Biden is literally over, he is going to retire from politics as soon as he finishes the peaceful transition of power into the Trump's second administration. Quite ironic, considering he was seeking a re-election earlier this year.

Trump's political career? What? Do you think he is going to run for President again? Is he going to run for Congress at age 83, or whenever his presidential term is over?

If Trump pushes Ukraine into giving up some of its land to Russia, it will keep Russia from taking all of Ukraine. After all, Ukraine is approximately dead, as far as they can fight a war, that is.

Pretty much depends on whether it is in benefit of his own career as politician, I think he will try to stop the war in Ukraine but he probably won't do anything to try to save guard the rights of the people from Palestine, he will do whatever Israel tells him it is necessary to protect their territory from Hamas, Hezbollah and Iran.
By the way, it has been already revealed there was an actual plot going on from Iran to try to assassinate Trump, so that should give you an idea on how much Tehran does not want Trump to mess around and give unchecked support to Israel.
Trump is likely to push Ukraine into accepting to give up some land to Russia, pretty much in Zelensky dismay.

It is undeniable that the covid pandemic or some of Trump's decisions and policies during his first term were not perfect and still have many shortcomings. But we can also compare and feel for ourselves in the two most recent terms: under Trump (2016-2021) or under Biden (2020-2024). Which period was more prosperous and peaceful? From there, we will know whether Trump's election as the 47th president of the United States is convincing and worthy or not .  I wonder, if Trump is not more worthy than Harris, why do the American people want him to be president and not Harris ?

If the market corrects in a healthy direction, this is indeed a good time to buy more, but if the market plummets due to a specific threat from the government, this is no longer the perfect time to buy more. If Harris would be put in the place of Trump, it will be bad both short term and long term because if she really hates bitcoin then we won't have much room for growth during her years in office.

Each administration will have different attitudes and policies, which will have different impacts on the market. So I think who wins is important. If Harris won, we wouldn't have seen Bitcoin hit $90k in the last few days and that's a huge difference.

I see that Trump has already actively started calling everyone, is he really going to end the war?

I don't think trump could have done much better given how prejudical the whole education system is in brainwashing the population over the last 40 years.

Even back in 2016, when Trump was facing Hillary Clinton and ultimately won the electoral college, he promised a lot of things, being the most famous one to build the wall (and make Mexico pay for it) most of the stuff promised by Trump did not happen and now, several years forward I still don't expect that man to keep his word and do a fraction of what he has promised he would do as a president.
Do you all remember how he talked about how fast and easily he was going to pay off the public debt of the United States in a single term? Under his first administration the national debt only rose, because he thought it was a better idea to cut taxes for his billionaire friends and further increase the burden on the future generations of Americans.

I could even bet he won't dare to put tariffs on Chinese goods as he has said he would during his campaign, because someone (more intelligent than him) will persuade him from doing it, for the sake of the fragile economy of the United States.
If you are a Bitcoin holder or a trader, just expect more tax cuts on your assets, and that is being too generous from Trump.

But Trump's throne is a throne of freedom that he is bringing back to all of us. You can see it in the price of Bitcoin... to the moon and stars. Also, review the post above this one.


Liberal Hollywood Star Michael Douglas Admits That Trump’s Republicans Are the ‘Party of the People’ While Dems Are ‘Elitists’

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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/11/liberal-hollywood-star-michael-douglas-admits-that-trumps/
There's a long ongoing saga of liberals trying to come to term with reality.

Besides mad leftists shaving their heads and freaking out on camera, there are also those who try to understand America's moment using whatever mental faculties the TDS did not destroy.

It's the case of Academy Award winner Michael Douglas.

The Hollywood star has allowed himself to admit – even if it was notably painful for him – that the GOP under President-elect Donald Trump is now the 'party of the people', while Douglas' beloved Democrats are now seen as 'elitist'.

The actor appeared Friday ( on Bill Maher's Real Time , and the episode dealt primarily with Trump's historic victory over Kamala Harris.

Douglas, who is a liberal diehard supporter of the Democrat party, did not hide his distress over Trump's win.

Breitbart reported:

"'Wednesday morning, I was just so pissed at this razor thin race, right? It was going to be so close, you know, with all these polls — and it's a wipeout', Douglas said, adding that he later spent the day playing golf."

Douglas told Maher that the Democrats lost the election over the economy.

"'In 40 years, the stock market has increased 5,000 percent and real earning wages have increased 14 percent', Douglas said, later adding that ordinary Americans 'are going week to week with the inflation, it is killing them'.

'And I think we really underestimated it, and the very fact now that we could talk about Republicans as being the people, the party for the people, and that we have this elitist party on the left, Democrats, is wild'."
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Sorry, OP, but seeing the price makes me excited and convinced.
I agree that Trump may not change much for bitcoin, but at the very least he'll end the period of uncertainty, as he won't go after it.

What did Biden try to do? Choke bitcoin by delaying ETFs, allowing environmentalists to attack it, especially in Congress.
You can see who was on their side, since Harris considered promoting Gensler if she happened to win the election, while Republicans were criticizing him.
I'm not even going to start talking about Elizabeth Warren and Brad Sherman. Democratic camp is full of anti-bitcoin, pro woke socialists. I'm glad that they don't get to dictate their terms for the next 4 years.

You have a genuine concern, Trump will do little or nothing in the crypto space, he only used it as part of tactics to ascend the throne, nevertheless, it's working for the market which is what we should think of right now. After all, this has rekindled the market excitement and brought about more liquidity, that's good. The market often reacts more heavily to rumours and promises than reality at times, so I am not surprised about what is happening. This is coupled with the present bull run season of Bitcoin as we experience in cycles, so we should enjoy it while it lasts. Things will subside in 2025 as usual when the bearish season comes into play again, but I don't know if Trump's disappointment in followers will aggravate it this time.

After the election of Donald Trump, the positive thing that everyone expected for Bitcoin in the market is being realized according to Trump's statement and the price of Bitcoin has already hit 82 thousand dollars where my expectation was 85 thousand dollars. so it can be said that Bitcoin is almost at the end of reaching its maximum price. But it is possible that in this hype the price of Bitcoin may reach more than our expectations which may be more than 90 thousand dollars.

If Kamala Harris wasn't a crypto supporter, putting Kamala Harris in Donald Trump's place would cause the price of Bitcoin to drop significantly. We've heard many say that Kamala Harris is not in favor of Bitcoin. Donald Trump is a supporter of cryptocurrencies, as we have seen in the market over the past few days. However, the cryptocurrency market will go up unilaterally, it is not mandatory. So dumping after that is normal as the market has been going up for a long time. But if the market is dumping there is nothing to blame Donald Trump.

Therefore my position in responding to this kind of thing is to remain neutral until the demands that are beneficial especially for the crypto community are met. People who provide support because there is an agenda that is expected to be realized. Trump has officially won and his inauguration has not started, so we will wait and see what steps will be taken in the first 100 days after he was inaugurated, whether there is a realization of the promises that he has been touting in every campaign, be it issues of overcoming war, the economy, or Bitcoin position in the US.

Somehow this is the effect of his victory since bitcoin create certain good grip since many people believe that it will be supported by Trump administration since this is what he promised and always said to people. As of the moment Bitcoin already surpassed again a new ATH and currently sitting at $82k and there huge chance that we can see a $90k until end of this year.

If Kamala Harris won? I guess the approach is different. But we won't see a bad dumps since for sure people would still be bullish despite of that possible event that might happen. But guess there's nothing to do now especially for Harris supporter, Trump already won and they need to deal with what he want to implement in America.

Yes that is true though if not for his victory we wouldn't have seen Bitcoin surging this fast, okay just come to think if it was Kamala Harris who won the election do you think bitcoin would have still waxed this strong in terms of price action and movement? 

No! I don't think so, by now we could have been bleeding seriously because the market will suffer losing and lot of US citizens could have been looking for a way out currently but I guess it's the opposite were he finally emerged as the winner of 2024 presidential US election.

Yes, it is like a gambling because we never know what they will do when they elected. Many politicians change their vision after they elected and do something different from their promises. We as a citizens is already know about that so we don't have a big hope from them to do what they promise to us.

Politics can makes someone change so it is not surprising if someone changes after they are elected. Although there is some people who can works as they promises but the number of those who change themselves is too big. That may affect to the government program and maybe they will not works for the citizens and their country.

We have seen Trump and Biden administration. I don't think politicians work for 100% of the people but there is definitely a divide between them. The way the Biden administration has created a global war situation over the past few years cannot be expected from Trump. He believes in peace and not war. Trump is more business minded and as a politician I think that is the most appropriate thing to do.

Not only the Americans but the world now hates the Biden administration and its actions have destabilized the whole world due to which Trump has been able to make a big difference in the election. I cannot predict how much Trump will be able to change the situation of the war from his position but it is assumed that he will play a role in stopping the war.

Since Trump came to power, there have been drastic changes in several areas. In particular, the cryptocurrency market has seen an unprecedented change. The amount of investment in the crypto market has increased significantly in the last few days. According to CoinMarketCap data in last 24 hours the market cap was $2.69T which is expected to increase to 3 Trillion soon.

The thing is.. Many speculate that if Harris would be put in the place of Trump, the market would plummet a bit, but as we know - after a storm, comes a calm period  So it would be a dump with the better positions for big hands to wait for the news to start the rally, albeit a bit later that we experience now.
However - we may experience corrections along the way we walk along the aftermath of the elections, so, it wouldn't really matter to me who won - the rally for BTC would start anyway.

I would say it would 50/50, but I hope for your words to be true.
BTC would propel forward with or without Trump, there would be just a different event or chain of events to do so, but we are here at BTC being 80k-ish, and with a perspective to go further than that, definitely.

This.
I totally agree with your statements, poltiicians are known for what they are good for - playing for the people around them and chaging the meaning of the words, twisting them and etc.
So only time would tell how much of Trump's promises would be addressed and delivered.

Not for this aspect because already we have seen how the market is surging uncontrollably this means his promises would come into effects, and besides he has already given his words during campaign and I don't think he could be that deceitful as i know Trump is to strict on his words and i mean everything that comes from his mouth will surely be implemented, even though not 100% at least 68-89% must surely be implemented. Like I know, it's his victory that is propelling bitcoin so far and so fast so we shouldn't think otherwise.

Well the truth is just because he won the presidential candidacy sure doesn't mean that he HAS to do what he says he was going to do.All politicians are full of shit, and none of them and up actually doing what they say they are, and he is certainly no ecxeption.  Now despite that fact that I despise the guy, if he actually does try and change is ways, then I'm willing to give him a chance.  So that means if he is truly "pro-crypto" well then I'll have a lot more respect for him sticking to his word when it comes to fighting for it. 

Yes, Trump may break his promises after becoming president but at least with his victory, the market is doing quite well and we should be grateful for his victory which contributed to this price increase.

And if we doubt and distrust Trump, why don't we wonder what would have happened if Harris had been the winner? I bet the market won't be that positive and a dump is inevitable instead of a rally like it is now. So stop doubting Trump because at least his victory is much better than Harris' regardless of whether he keeps his promises to us or not.

You guys like to theorize and doubt everything but you should also remember that we don't have many choices, we can only choose 1 of 2 between Trump and Harris. If Trump is not seen as a good choice for the markets, then don't expect anything better for us if Harris wins.

Well, whether he keeps his promises or not is a thing to be discussed when he takes the presidential privileges in his hands; for now, we should at least be happy that his winning the election brought some positivity in the market in the shape of Bitcoin's price going up which has made the alts start making some good moves. All Bitcoin and altcoin holders are happy these days because of the profits they have got. We should at least enjoy this short-term happy phase before we might see bad things happening again.

There is no doubt that politicians tend to be pretty good at creating drama and lying for benefits such as getting votes and support and changing after the elections are gone and they have brought in power, but we should hope for the best. We have seen him making some efforts in this area this time around, he even used Bitcoin for making a purchase, lol. 

Hopefully, his stance won't change, because if it does, that might be the beginning of the new bear cycle, I'm afraid.

In his first term most of his logical and possible promises where delivered 70% of it or even more. New war didn't happened on his term even the bullying of other big countries (Russia and China) to its neighboring country didn't happen and didn't become worst. But sadly, pandemic happened on his terms, and that's the worst thing to happen to any president in any country at that time so i can't say any evaluation about the economy on his term.
Well, at this time, i will also say what was quoted, at least vote the least evil and with more potential, so yeah, we will stick to it.

I'm so much in agreement with this point of view you have got, I have never been of the absolute opinion that trumps victory is really a win win for the crypto industry, he's gat the power to still refuse implementation of the promises or slow it down and will only be criticized and he will only give reason for that happing such that you are nor going to be able to really do anything about so we are only going to just hope and using intuition to keeping hopes alive about all of this.

Indeed,but just be optimistic and positive concerning this particular agenda.However,we're all excited that he won and we believe that it's going to be a new dawn for Bitcoin in the society and around the globe.
We all know Trump is a good man,and we also expect to see more so there's no need to question his intentions and innate capabilities.

What are we discussing here by the way? I'm confused because this is a bitcoin discussion board and this is more like a political discussion imo.

I never trust any single of politicians promise before and Trump will not be an exception. If I may ask, did he promise to legalised Bitcoin as a legal tender in America? Does he has power to pump the price to our satisfaction? If the answer to these questions is No, then I see no reason to jubilate over his victory. His attitude is the same as others that aim to capture masses attention using circumstances to get votes.

Of course, we are excited he won because there won't be any excuse again. We are watching already!

There is a point in what the op says, that the majority of politicians do not fulfill most of the promises they made, I hope that at least 50% of what Trump said about bitcoin
will come true for at least those who voted or supported him feel comfortable.

You know the political game of politicians is very dirty, the color changes once they sit in the position they ran for, that's a Fact check actually,
which happens in all countries around the world.

Some people are already that making up some complaints or bashes that, "Is this it?" Is this where the price could possibly max be able to hit up after Trump won? They are really that expecting more and telling that it isnt really that enough on which just like on what OP had pointed out.  It is really that good that Trump is really that not against Bitcoin or cryptocurrency as a whole but come in mind that there are just news or fundamentals that could neither make up some effect or not when it comes to crypto space. There were those things that can really make out some impressions whether negative or positive inputs that could affect somehow but just like on what we do all know that not all the time that news could make out that effect towards price movement or condition.

I dont really care whether Trump win or not, this isnt something a primary indication or thing that Bitcoin or crypto market does really depend on. Yes, they could really be able to have some relevance about possible
news that will drive the crypto space into the good path but it doesnt give out any guarantees in regarding success and other stuffs in correlated to this one.

If you mean Trump is likely to lose then you are wrong and wrong. Trump has already won and it is almost officially declared. If Bitcoin comes through then the promise that Donald Trump made to the crypto currency community is being proven with evidence we can see how high Bitcoin is right now. Bitcoin price was not high when Donald Trump was not in power but since he made promises to the crypto currency community the price started to improve and since he was close to victory Bitcoin started to strengthen. After Trump's victory we saw Bitcoin hit an unprecedented high of $77,200. But I expect cryptocurrency to make a better position in the future.

Majorities that casting their votes on a party is usually the winner when it comes to election by votes just like the recent US election of Trump and Kamala.
So if the majorities could celebrate Trumps victory that means the . majority voted him.
So not seeing them celebrating it.
Even, Kamala and Biden has congratulated and submitted to it that Trump really beat em up there. So what are we insinuating here ?

What’s with the hype about Trump, I guess I will be seeing more topics about Trump victory and I can’t help but discuss my honest opinion. Definitely I have said this before concerning Trump rule and high expectations, not all Politicians will act funny after winning and I will categorize Trump as one of those good politicians of course good people still exist. Getting excited is not a problem especially bitcoin field watching the price movement seems impressive, we’ve discussed about bitcoin expectations let’s hope it lasts but, I see less discussion about the economy growth also he made a lot of speech about economy progress, war, crypto friendly etc which I believe stands as a source of his victory.

Politics sure can be a dirty business.  Seems like a lot of folks who run for office are in it for the wrong reasons - chasing power over others or working to get what they want and  and even some of the decent ones, the ones who start off wanting to improve things and help people out, they either cant climb high enough where their voices matter or the taste of power winds up changing them.   

I figure most regular people dont follow all the ins and outs too close, they just want leaders who will look out for them and their families.  But those kind of selfless public servants are few and far between.  More often its the hungry power-seekers and glory-chasers who elbow their way to the top spots.  Then its no surprise when they look out for number one instead of the regular folks.

Maybe things would work better if we found ways to keep politicians grounded in the real lives of everyday people.  Cause theres always gonna be some drive for power and selfishness thats just human nature.

Exactly, maybe Trump will not fulfill his campaign promises, but we have to be fair and give him a chance to try, after all he promised to do a lot during the campaign and it is unrealistic to expect he can do everything from day one, especially since I would think he has way more important things to attend first, like the different conflicts around the world, the inflation that affected the everyday life of most Americans or the border crisis.

Never should you expect a Politician to keep their words 100 percent.  It is a known fact that they will most likely not, so why expect the opposite?  While I am very neutral, between Trump and Harris, Trump is the one to choose IF we are talking Cryptocurrencies only.  But like I said before, the Elections are about choosing a President of your Country to serve you and, considering the power of the United States, choosing a President of your country to possibly even change the whole world.  One President can love war, another may choose peace.  It takes so much more than just getting your Bitcoin to rise.  So many other WAY more important aspects should be considered.  I find it very curious how some people simply care about their Wealth and vote Trump strictly for that with out even considering how the other aspects of their future may change.

Trump can definitely change for the worse.  There have been Presidents in the past around the world who have changed drastically in such a negative way they destroyed their own country or the well being of their own citizens.  In fact, look at the mental health of Biden over the past four years.  The man was clearly declining very roughly over the years and was incapable of doing any thing for a power as big as The United States on his own.  He truly became a puppet.  It can be very dangerous.  He was dangerous and all it took one wrong turn for the world to enter hell.

It is great to hope, but have realistic hope.  Trump theoretically will help Bitcoin, but just wait and see.  Maybe he will exceed expectations.  I mean.  He had a LOT of promises made.  Even if he only follows half of them, it is still a win for all of us.

Comfortably having such political discussion that's not related to bitcoin being trending here on bitcoin discussion board? Very weird.
However, I personally think Trump would do well even if not achieving all his promises being said. Impressively the signal of his election victory has touched us all in the bitcoin market after seeing the price of bitcoin pumped and surged to a new Ath.
There's every reasons to be excited if really you supposed Trump but though quite mindful to put trust on a man because our mind swings could also be as volatile as cryptocurrencies. Lol

Oh man, Trump is not even officially in the office and yet we already have one thread saying that he is not convinced? Lol, How can he do what he has promised when Biden is still the President of the United States of America? Trump will officially take oath on January, so until then we should wait first and give him a break and see what he can do about the war and the world economics and Bitcoin itself.

We can't judge him, the only thing that he is held accountable is all his promise specially with our concerns on Bitcoin and crypto in general. He said during his campaign that he will make Bitcoin great and could be one of their reserves. Maybe we can see new friendly regulations and then exchanges going back to US or at least serve Americans without any repercussions unlike the Biden administration.

The fact is that for a lot of people who have been a Trump supporter even before the election, this whole pump is either viewed as a glimpse of hope or for some, a kind of proof to show that trump will do like he said he would before the election. The truth is being a Trump supporter or not, the whole stuff of pump can be way convincing. The idea is people will believe more in your potential when you give an example or proof.

Anyways just like probability has it, it could also turn out to be that this whole experience and crypto pump is just a result of initial manipulations and hype to make enthusiast believe and those initially against the movement to believe the movement would turn out positive. We hope it all turns out the way we see it. Anyways the best we could do is speculate and watch out.

Putting faith in a candidate before an election is like gambling, we may gain some benefits or get nothing. Many of us say that they gamble just for fun and they don't feel bad if they lose because they understand that the nature of gambling is luck. I think we should also apply that mindset when putting our trust in politicians, because they can keep their promises but they can also break them and there is nothing we can do about it. Instead of being naive and believing too much in what politicians say, let's not forget that the nature of politics is lying.

A lot was said during the campaign, he was too excited to get to the Whitehouse but something is telling me that not everything said he is going to do but just to be a man of his word and campaign promises, he will do the simple ones. He will sack Gary Gensler, US might not sell their Bitcoin, they might review the guy that was accused of silk road but you see that federal, please forget it. It's not even a dream that will happen because the US knows better.

All this excitement for the market is normal but thinking a man that put dollar bill before any other investment wouldn't jeopardize their currency because Bitcoin stand against fiat, unless we are trying to start changing the topic that Fiat and Bitcoin can now be relatable.

Giving a promises when the election is an usual things that many candidates doing. They don't think about to keep that promises after they elected because they will be busy with many things including to gets their money back. Many politicians forget what their promise to people and we can not say anything because they can gives many reasons.

We will see what happens after this. If Trump keep his promise before he elected, that will be good because we will see a change. But if not, we don't have to be sad because that can happen anytime. But we should grateful because Bitcoin can jumps to the high price and make a new ATH.

You have  bee promised and expect them to do it? lol promises is enough hahaha.

kidding aside , Trump already knew what he have done wrong in His first term so for sure he will never do the same mistakes again and for sure He'll do everything to make america great again so he can have another seat in the next election .

suddenly , the world is not fair for everyone so expect many obstacles but surely will favor the world there .

The fact Bitcoin is flying like a bird of late is one of the good reasons to trust Trump, at least for now. Even though he would later change in other aspects not towards Bitcoin immediately. It would take some time before he would begin to consider and reconsider what he has said about Bitcoin. Before all that, Bitcoin must have skyrocketed to the price we have anticipated it to reach by next year($100k +). However, utilize this bull run to your advantage, and make sure you have a target price. Don't be too greedy to have unimaginable prices in your Bitcoin and altcoin investment.

The rather hope that the bitcoin community had for bitcoin’s future in the hands of Trump have actually paved way for him to succeed in the just concluded election. He was the candidate that showed more support for bitcoin and made a lot of promises to make bitcoin a more utilised currency during his tenure as the US president. He may have used other means to campaign, but he chosed this also because he knows how large the community is and what he’ll gain from there.

His success in the election now awaits him to fulfill the promises he has made as all crypto enthusiasts living within and and outside his jurisdiction will be waiting to hear something big in the soonest. Politicians are fond of making promises and not fulfilling them, but if he doesn’t fulfill them, he risks going for another time which is more reason why I think he’ll do as promised. The effect of him winning the election has been felt positively after he won the election. We now await how things will be during the post election period which we are in now.

This particular line reminded me of that quote from the Witcher TV series where Geralt of Rivia (protagonist) talks about evil being evil no matter how trivial we think of it in terms of weight and that if that's the only choice, there's no point of choosing at all, my point is that we're so used to this dichotomy that we are so desensitized and that we don't even put in the effort to choose the right thing anymore or even find one, the only people that would benefit in those choices are those that have given us those choices.

Totally agree with this one about being less war like compared to Biden but I don't think that Trump is powerful enough or peaceful enough to choose not to supply the ongoing wars all over the world, the money in it is just too big for them to be completely detach themselves to it. I'm not still sold on Trump being good for bitcoin though, there's 4 years to prove anyway.

for real, even with trump's winning alone people's sentiment towards bitcoin market already getting better since people know that trump seem to be on the supportive side for bitcoin, I think it's good that people actually become optimistic again.
we will need to wait and see about the regulation that might be proposed by trump's administration but honestly I think he will take significant change.

hopefully it will be pro-bitcoin regulation where it might helps bitcoin going even higher.
the entire scene with bitcoin, if taken advantage properly, can help nation grow its wealth, we all know how fast the adoption for crypto is these days.

I won't comment on the credibility of anyone's, but be cautious on the government level a single person cant be a one-man show as he needs to follow up each and everything and hopes are good and a sign of positivity but don't get obsessed with anything thing are gonna take their time as no one knew Bitcoin in 2010 and now everyone does similarly at the right time it will get established by every mean we are expecting now on that time it won't matter whether its Trump or anyone else.

I’m not excited because Trump won, but I’m definitely excited because I am now seeing bitcoin price going to the moon again. Although Trump could also be a reason for it, but let’s be clear here, whether Trump wins or not, the success of bitcoin has never been dependent on any person or institution.

Bitcoin price will surge high in time, and not because it’s highly influenced. Although there are times that bitcoin price is affected by the current events, but the result is only temporary, bitcoin will eventually get back to its original market movement in the market.

  Your right because trump has been there before and the only thing that he was able to do then was just talking and talking that was why he was voted out before and now he's back with the promise that he made to the masses well let see how he's going to go about it this time because there are allot of things to handle now because with the two wars currently going on their is much concerned about America safety and strengthening their defense and home security not forgetting the economy will trump have the capacity and the political influence to at least make peace with the various leaders of these waring factions of the world and make a cease fire these are questions that we can't get until he's comes to office in January and hites the ground running

Trump victory doesn't equal a 100% automatic market increase because for that to happen there are some other factors that will propel the market to reach that level, and we shouldn't over look those factors by getting carried away by political events.


It's good enough that the United States now have a cryptocurrency friendly president but that alone will not give us the needed success in the community as we expected, so there still need for other market actors to remain very active in achieving that success, so it a collective efforts.

This is something that has been disturbing over the minds of many even though Trump has publicly shown his support for bitcoin and his promised to make a currency that can be readily usable for its citizens when elected. Those speech may have gotten him a lot of vote as many crypto enthusiasts will be overwhelmed to see that come to happening after he’s elected as the president of the United States. While they may still have some sense of doubts about it as to what politicians are known for, promising and failing and not fulfilling them, they may just want to give it a try to see what will come of it. Until something is done about his promises for bitcoin, many may not still be satisfied enough to be happy for his victory.

Well, we just have to enjoy the ride now as the market keeps going up and also remain attentive to any arising information that could make the price to divert. Just saying, for those that are longing Bitcoin, be smart.

Nah he won't change bluntly just over night, it will take him some time to complete those promises. In short, we should not expect him to fulfill these promises within 1 year at least. Maybe he would able to fire Gary soon, but other promises will surely take some time. And not a single political leader can just bluntly say he won't fulfill his promises but he will make excuses like the system did not make me do this for you, or I was forced, etc. etc.

I have seen these scenarios before, and who knows if they are even true or not? like the acting is kind of convincing, only a cold-hearted person would think they are faking it after seeing their acting. I think he will make crypto adoption more streamlined and this way we will see a pump in BTC first then alts.

Either you like it or not, the reason why we break that silly resistance that we've been battling for the past month is because of Trump, some silly people will still say that Bitcoin gotta do its thing, I get it but the market was in fear and thats why people don't put in more money on BTC, Trump winning clears the road ahead.

If kamala won it isn't going to be good for Bitcoin, plain and simple, like if Bitcoin was supposed to top at 150k it will likely top at 80k if Kamala won, Bitcoin is no more crypto in my own mind, it is now much more like a commodity.

It’s better to trust a politician who promises good things for Bitcoin than one who doesn't mention it at all. We took a chance voting for Trump, hoping he'll make good policies for Bitcoin. Maybe we should give him some time - he hasn’t taken office yet, so let's wait and see if he follows through.

If you are a American and voted for Kamala Harris, of course you are not going to be happy with Trump's victory.

If you are a American and voted for Donald Trump, you might be one of those who attended his victory party.

If you are a American and pro-Bitcoin, you might be very very happy for Trump's victory, because you will think that he will make Bitcoin or the rest of the crypto great with his promises during the election.

Allow the man to breathe for Christ's sake; he made a lot of promises, and it's only those who are not aware of how politicians operate that will be convinced enough that all those promises will be fulfilled, but then again, you should allow him to step his feet back to the office before starting to feel unconvinced.

The people already believed in his vision, which is clearly showing in how the market reacted to his victory, even before it was official.

What Bitcoin achieved during this election and after Trump's victory, reaching $75,000, is a glimmer of hope for the future. His move to support Bitcoin was successful because he focused on the youth element and he knows very well how popular Bitcoin is among its supporters in the United States, as well as the restrictions imposed there. If he fulfills his promises, this will undoubtedly soliidify his position in power and increase his supporters. I see no reason for him not to follow through on his promises, as he understands the importance of Bitcoin as a store of value and that it will surpass gold and he recognizes Bitcoin's immense powerr globally.

So far, we have not seen anything from him, so we have nothing to do but be optimistic about the futuree of Bitcoin, which continues to flourish, and whether Trump or anyone else, nothing will stop Bitcoin. Now, after Trump's victory, the American senator stated that they would build a strategic reserve for the U.S. using Bitcoin. [Source]

I’ve been expecting for this to happen. Whether it’s convincing or not, still that doesn’t change the fact that Trump is now the new US President and hopefully, with all his plans and promotions for crypto, if not all, at least crypto particularly bitcoin will be given what it truly deserves in the financial market. I’m not trying to raise the bitcoin community expectations up, but knowing Trump is here to support and continue to make bitcoin price bullish, then I think we are now in the good hands.

Trump is not new in the political spectrum of the United States elections and this is not the first time he will contest for the president. Instead of thinking about whether Trump will deliver his campaign promises or not, is not really something we should discuss here. It is something you can measure by experience.

How he will stop that war is the most important part. Many claim that he is friends with Putin, and he will just let Russia win that war, he will stop helping Ukraine, and he will just let Russia take over. If he really does that, then is that really good that he stops a war? I mean stopping a war like that makes absolutely no sense at all, so we shouldn't really be glad that he is not like warhead Biden.

We need to figure out a good middleground, maybe he will talk with Putin and he will end up convincing him to just stop for a while until they come to a good negotiation and that would be a good situation, it will be something that will be a lot more important. Surely that's not really that important so far, we have to wait and see.

Hmm is it convincing hmm, I'm not convinced yet hit a button for $80k haha as we've been long waiting for that milestone but seems like the way is rough for that achievement sure if we look at the sentiments seems like we are not far from hitting that anytime soon.

Shitcoins are in profit booking zone especially those one, which were motivated by the election campaign.

Yeah winning doesn't necessarily mean they would fulfil their promises
But with Trump dabbling on shitcoins, he would want to support Bitcoin
To further boost his profits.
I don't like Trump but like its said, he's turning out to be the lesser evil of the two.
Besides as long as he doesn't actively fight Bitcoin
Bitcoin would still flourish with or without his help
The difference is the pace.

It seems that the markets are not paying much attention to the OP as people are investing billions in the markets after the victory. The bitcoin market cap alone has grown $11.73B in the last 24 hours. Add in shitcoins, the stock market and the dollar at the very least. Now that's convincing.

It is we that shouldn't mix things up here, bitcoin is different from politics as well as cryptocurrency, this is just a reaction that we have over the market, don't make it feels as if without the politicians bitcoin will not achieve it all time high, another thing to consider from this is the fact that, we are voting only by whom we love or expect top be in the leadership position by the virtue of their merit and standard, not by what they have spoken or said.

My excitement is not just that Donald Trump won, a political candidate, but the fact that the political candidate who aligned themselves with cryptocurrency won an election, that signifies to me that people are not really against cryptocurrency in the United States. We expect him to deliver on some of his campaign promises concerning bitcoin and cryptocurrency, or even if he will not add to the progress of cryptocurrency should not be a hindrance to growth to it if it is coming from another sector. If he fails, it will a big disappointment.

No I'm not all democrats, neither am I republican!
All I'm saying is until I see trump working or implementing policies that could help better the Bitcoin community I'm not convinced.
A politician is a politician regardless.

Trump was already showing to be the winner from the time of the campaign, which made the Democrats replace Biden with Kamala, thinking she was a better opponent for Trump.
 
Although the election result and voting are far from what we see on social media, if we judge by the support Trump was getting from top-class business people and the trend all over the internet, I could say his chances of winning were very high, and people believed in that so much that their expectations were never let down. 

In times of promises, Trump is a politician and will say what he thinks can get him the vote he wants, but voting is more than just because of the promises he made to Bitcoin and others. People who voted either definitely have what they saw in him that made them vote or because they just follow who they trust advice to cast their vote.

Yeah, but the would be great to know in which way he should plan to end it, as there is not to many if any diplomatic scenario available...

 

Haha, another shocking news is here haha Ahh I'm just exaggerating I don't even know anything about ground politics but from the campaign, I was not expecting him to win even though he made decent promises in different sectors as we know politicians are good to showrunners at the time of their election campaign and at the end you should goto home as in theater it's already a disclaimer all the character are fictional don't take onto heart and lungs.

Just be positive in assessing including in terms of positive assessment. What politicians say cannot be trusted because they have done it so often. In 100 times, maybe on the 101st occasion it can be trusted because words match actions.

Trump is the president of America and I am not from there. Good and bad I can only judge from afar, but as long as his actions can have a positive influence on the development of Bitcoin around the world, I am very happy. For me, Bitcoin can unite.

I know that politicians can come up with empty promises but I think Trump is better than his running mate including Biden, which is a good reason for us to be happy with this change. It will be a win win for the crypto community and bitcoin will be able to reach $100k in no time compared to if Kamala had won the election, or don't you see that Trump is bullish. We need a president that will encourage people to adopt cryptocurrency and not against it.

Yes, this has been said repeatedly by many forum members throughout the campaign, we are just choosing who is the least evil, not looking for a true good guy when it comes to politics. Also, we have only 2 options and we can only choose 1 of the 2, we don't have a 3rd option.


People voted and expected Trump to win because they believed that under Trump, we would have less war, the economy would improve. Or when it comes to crypto, he won't be so strict or tough but instead will be more friendly to us.  

In any war, the winning side always thinks they are better, and the losing side always thinks the other side is not better than them and thinks something is wrong. But win is still win, lose is still lose, we should accept the reality.

Yes we can't judge the intentions of politicians completely but after seeing what the Bidden and Kamala Harris administration has done, Trump is the better choice for Bitcoin growth than Harris.
Although I am not expecting him to turn around the fortune of Bitcoin by skyrocketting the price to 100k but rather easy the stringent policies already in place has has been hindrance the adoption level of Bitcoin and crypto-currency. He has promised to change so life time Bitcoin enemies in powers and stop others from carrying out their gate attack against Bitcoin. Let's just see how it goes. Fingers crossed.

Politicians are evil. The focus should be on identifying who is the least evil, IMO.

I feel like Trump is less warlike than Biden, and I think he will put an end on the Ukrainian war, which is good for everyone. He says he will tax Americans less by rising tariffs, which is bad for me as a non-American, but good I suppose for the American private sector (and ultimately, for all Americans). Let's see if he keeps his promises.

He's better than Biden for Bitcoin, at least in the short term price.

It seems that you are with the Democratic Party. Have you notice since 1989 Democratic and Republican Parties are just alternately win the country? Does the progress end? Does the War ends? Does all promise have been executed. Just remember, all of them are politicians. But the most interesting part is the Bitcoin continue to fly! 

Yes yes yes we all know how everyone is elated about trump's victory.
But personally I think we shouldn't get excited yet, there has been so many promises made but we all know politics and how politicians can still change overnight.