Topic: Trust problem: Need help with forum administration (Read 1099 times)

And do not read what's the matter of fate!
I traded not Merit with a person but tokens, and it was much earlier than the introduction of the system is measuring. What kind of deserved punishment do you end up talking about, if I did not trade with merits of trade operations?
I apologized for using the system without knowing how and what works, just scattered what people were and everything is not a violation of the rules, just a small mistake for which I just ask you not to strictly punish.
I do not feel much guilt in this, and therefore I do not stop trying to reach out to actmyname, that he would reconsider his position. Why be so principled, but we are all human beings and make mistakes.


Thank you for understanding!

He tagged you because he suspected you of trading merits, and it's pretty obvious that's what you were doing.  You apparently just admitted it, so it's an open-and-shut case, no? 

People who abuse the merit system deserve negative trust, and apologies aren't worth anything.  The trend seems to be to apologize as soon as you're caught doing something wrong and promise you'll never do it again.  I don't buy such apologies.  The trust should stay, as a punitive measure for you and as a deterrent for anyone else who might be considering doing what you did.

Do you never forgive mistakes someone did because he had no idea they are "mistakes" or "wrong"

But the Actmyname also has no evidence, and I think this is a violation of what he accuses me of. He has only a theory and she follows it, leading one or two transactions into evidence. But these transactions on the contrary confirm that I was just trading with a person. Therefore, I asked the admins to investigate the situation, but there is still no answer. And the fact of violation of the rules against me is. Is it difficult to verify everything and direct Actmyname to the right path, I do not understand why they are pulling this.
I have long apologized for my mistake, but for some reason he considers this to be too serious a crime, although I have not even sold one merita. It's just a heck!

Man, you can not change people mind just by talking. Bring evidence here and ask someone who has high reputation from your local board to verify you. I can say i am a best friend of Robert Downey Jr. but people would not believe me if i dont have a proof, even though i write 100 pages of posts in this forum.

Actmyname has only him I THINK THIS IS his EVIDENCE!
For the fact that I have spent one or two transactions with a person who are visible in the detachment, he accuses me. Typically, I had to keep the history of correspondence - so why? Who keeps it at all !? Therefore, I consider my punishment to be a violation of the rules against me.
And on account of the fact that I scattered my horizons anywhere - this is my personal desire, I am free to give them to anyone I think is necessary - this is confirmed by the rules of the forum.

Do you understand what really happening on the forum? The forum has a huge problem on Account farming that results in tons of spam/shit post daily and I believe that there is Big time people/organization behind this that's why the new merit system was introduced, This system is intended to control the account farming by means of giving merits to only quality post and rank up only when you reach a certain amount of merits that you collected for quality posting. If you give this merits to a random post of person (giving a benefit of a doubt that it's not your alt account) then you are not following the rules.

Actmyname give you the RED paint because you are giving merit to your own account and he has a proof for that. Just give a proof that you are not connected then this Red paint will be removed (IMHO). Even admin can't control the trust system.

I think merit is not something for which you can lower your trust! And anyway, this system is not debugged and allows some to disregard the rights of simple members of the forum.
Maybe all the same it will come to me, when the forum administration will allocate a minute of time and help to understand the situation.
I also ask actmyname to reconsider its position, as I have brought many arguments, and there are no refutations and can not be.

trust that very clear need guldance from Forum, because, all problems nice or at least, assessment Forum that determine,means clear very need atministration from forum,trust can obtained from talk say words we post answer, where direction answer we leads positive.
# sorry, l just recommend, all problems that arise good that about merit, do not be taken one action directly follow, a little policy or asked directly to that concerned give WARNING, 1.2.3.new can dealt with.

What does it mean lucky! Lucky in the fact that I was simply slandered without having any evidence? Let it be better to ban otherwise I will not back down and will continue to fight for my honest name.
While waiting for a response from Cøbra, but he rarely happens here. I'll try to contact him in social networks, it would not be bad to learn his telegrams.

Because they don't care about your trust and by the way, merit isn't allowed in this forum so, don't bother sending a pm to theymos to remove your trust. You still lucky that you only have a negative trust some who caught merit farming were banned from this forum so, consider yourself lucky although you will never join in any signature campaigns or bounty campaigns because you have a negative trust.

Yes, about what slip you say, this coincidence!
Above fasting, I offered a bunch of options as possible to verify my case, you just do not want. Accuse not having evidence. This is a violation of the rules, slander! When you can punish those who can not answer without punishment! Especially not guilty. I suffered for nothing! Good! Good! Tell me what my gain is from all this! What is the fraud - I received some money, I traded merits? No, there is no fraud! And it can not be! So for what I'm blowing, just because you thought it was not the right tactic! This can not be treated with members of the forum.
I've been trying to explain to you for a long time that I did not benefit from this and will not, I did not violate the rules, or something but not specifically - so it turned out, I apologized for the mistake, did not know the functional, did not read the rules, we have them in the locale in general or who does not read, because there is no translation.
We will know all innovations by the method of scientific poking - which I did!
I ask only understanding on your part and not judge for it so severely!

I really don't think the merit system was intended to be used as OP speculates. You are supposed to reward quality posts, that is my understanding of this.

A blunder absolves not.

I wrote to him in PM, then all the communication was transferred to telegrams, because it is more convenient to communicate there and you can quickly carry out transactions, how can I restore it there, I deleted it even from contacts - why should I keep a long list, I leave only the necessary information. actmyname asks to give him screenshots and this type will be enough - but I could draw them and give or make arrangements with hypnosis and do it!
But I did not want to deceive, why should I? I thought honesty is still appreciated in people. Hypnosis says that it communicates with actmyname in the telegraph but also does not come to understanding.
He seems blocking me in the telegraph, I can not even write.
This can be processed in the order of the queue, because they must follow the forum and take care of its inhabitants. I'm not talking about frank violations of the type of sale and so on, you can disassemble such cases as I have in detail, I do not consider my mistake to be a violation of the rules.

That's enough. Such cases as I will no longer be repeated.

If I wanted to deceive, I would be smarter and I would not send these merits back to myself - why should I? I'm still actively writing on the forum to me and so people put merits, so I do not need them.
Several times I said that I was not familiar with the new functionality (merits) and just someone I knew on the forum and sent it as an experiment, without suspecting and all the more not deliberately breaking some rules.
I not only talked with hypnosis, several more people with whom I traded, but I'm afraid they will also be considered multi-accounts and in their interests I will not call them. What moderators could I call them that would confirm my words.

rus23kav, from where did you delete those messages (FB, here or somewhere else)?
- If it's from here, then "request for having those restored" > Record a clear video (containing those) and upload it to YouTube > Then simply ask a reputable "Russian" user to verify it (an alternative option is to provide your account to a reputable user, in order for them to verify everything).
- Also the other involved party (if there is), might have them. Simply ask for their help (with the above steps).

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Read the following:

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You're not the only one out there...

That won't be enough.

I'm still waiting for an answer from the administration of the forum, which can check and confirm my innocence! I do not understand why it's so hard to pay attention to my problem.
actmyname you also ask me again to scrap the pros and cons and make a measured decision!

You do not have any facts proving my guilt, only arguments and all of them are far-fetched.
How can you spoil my reputation based only on my guesswork?
Therefore, I ask the administration of the forum to intervene in this process, the administrator can easily prove my no guilt. I think it's time to ban multi-accounts and then there will not be such precedents.

The whole "we were trading on Facebook/BCT/etc and deleted logs & messages" argument doesn't have any foundation to it. It's really just an unsubstantiated argument that could be made by both guilty and innocent parties. Allowing that kind of answer to slide through is not the kind of precedent I want to set.

Why there is no reaction of the administration of the forum, I'm waiting for an answer but no one answers. Or the administration does not care about their community. In the theme of Lauda +100500 comments, and here no one wants to help sort out the problem. actmyname blocked me in a telegraph, in pm at all does not respond.

What do you mean anyone can say this? If this is the case, why I should not talk about it. I could draw you in our photoshop for ten pages in all colors, in Russian and then how you will translate what is written there or you would be enough. I'm not engaged in deception, I do not need this. I just want you to understand this.
This is a forum about crypto-currencies and their trade, but it turns out that I suffered for the fact that I am doing what it is supposed to do here. Who in general here keeps a correspondence, it's that love letters, I always delete the letter after reading.

Prove the proof of trade between you and HypNoSE and the trust will be removed.

Otherwise, your accounts are linked via blockchain evidence. It's not enough to say that messages have been deleted or that you don't have access to logs anymore. Anyone can simply say that. It's insufficient.

What does it mean to forgive? I did not break the rules and do not need to forgive me for anything. I ask only to understand the essence of my problem and accept that I'm not guilty of anything or I did not deserve a red trust.
But I also would like to receive positive trust, but I do not know how to do it. Here you can see that the red earn easier than green and even without a reason.

dear creamy08 !

i so happy for you investigate my posts to\from another places i mean you need also microscope to best investigate

about non constructive post your wrong i will not you explain why ( hope you will understand by yourself)

and it to hard for me to understand why you trying to troll me?
oh yes!
may be you mean this constructive post ?



What you mean?
And what i must to do?

Correct me if i'm wrong,it seems that this guy is having a non constructive post.Every sentences should start in cappital letters and ends a period,i'm surprise that it come from a high rank.Even from his/her previous post,kindly check





No hard feelings.

What are you willing to do for the sake of forgiveness?

Give some sound to your claim,chat logs for example. Don't make that shit up instantly,people notice everything and anything. The merit/trust system is not moderated,the rules don't specify everything,its as per the community's gesture.
Tip: Think twice before you do or say something.

And is it forbidden to trade operations? I sometimes buy tokens from people before they go to the exchange, hypnos sold them to me a couple of times. If this was my account, then I probably would remove all traces and the more common address from the profile. But I still initially said that I have nothing to hide, we are not one person, I just know him on the forum. The fact that I appreciated the post of merits, I do not see in this violation of the rules, why do you see it!

You are HypNoSE. The reference was updated and so was the comment. IvanBerkut was ruled out due to lack of concrete (blockchain) evidence. However, in the case of you and your alt, it can be publicly seen that your Ethereum addresses were quite connected.

To the point where you see multiple token transfers between them and an additional Ethereum transaction.

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Will you still deny the accusation?

IvanBerkut was removed from my account and was acquitted and took off his red trust, why I still consider the Hypnosis account and do not remove the red trust. Could not you just do it right away?
actmyname nevertheless realized that Ivan is not my multi-account, but why Hypnosis did not immediately check, Admin can in fact help with this.
actmyname you thought that you made a mistake with one account, why you do not admit the possibility that you made a mistake with the second one. The situation is exactly the same, the mutual sending of merits. But after all, without self-interest, there was no evil intent in this. Please reconsider your decision, double-check again if it does not make it difficult for you.

I would ask everyone who would be able to help, not just him. I do not think that this is a violation of anything! But he explained to me that this can not be done and this is not welcome and advised to write to Meta.
Which I did.
You say that you need to be able to wait, how long you can wait, your nerves are already running out.
I write asthmatic in lichku and in telegrams but he does not respond, ignores - why?
I'm only trying to prove my innocence.
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I do not answer all the questions because I do not understand everything by Google translator, it's more difficult for me to communicate here than to you.

For someone that seems to know the "forum rules" very well, you literally just broke one of it:

You've posted the following post three times already (that's for today only):

1st time: Wasn't aware so didn't save it...
2nd time: https://archive.fo/XFfVO#selection-6211.0-6213.15
3rd time: https://archive.fo/izlJZ#selection-5707.0-5709.15

You have to "learn to wait".

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Also it appears you dodged my last question (from my first post):

You fined me on the basis of a furious faith? I explained the situation to you, how I got into it, and why you do not believe me it is not clear. If I constantly broke the rules then yes, but I did not break them.
I made a mistake on not knowing the new function of the forum, for which I apologized and asked to give a chance.

Any proofs to back your point up? Like screenshots of pms and all?

I have a strong belief that someone is a scammer. Outside of a miracle, this is something that I vehemently believe is a ponzi. (Am I allowed to tag people for that, even if nobody has reported a scam yet?)

Moving on to this example.

I have a strong belief that someone is farming accounts/trading merit. Outside of a miracle, this is something that I vehemently believe is abuse of the merit system.

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Transferral of merit without reason or for monetary gain is equivalent to buying trust and that is something I do not trust.

Don't ask for forgiveness...Demand it.  There are a select few on the Forum who have time and time again taken it upon themselves to be supermen of the Forum.

They have abused and dishonored what theymos has publicly spoken against. These users have gone fro Labeling Scammers which the trust system was built for to Labeling everyone from Shitposters to Broken English.

The trust system CAN'T be used for Opinions,Theories,,Broken English posts,Poor posts Etc. Etc. But it is used for those reasons today.

Demand the Negative be Removed.

I did not think so because I did not think about it at all. I already said that I did not understand immediately randomly sent merit.
Once again I say this was done by stupidity, by the fact that I did not understand what it was to merit and clapped buttons.
Therefore, I apologize to the administration and moderators for inattention!

i will edit your story.
When you sent the merits you thought that no one could see the list of recipients. [https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit]

Therefore, I wrote here that I understand that this new function and I also did not understand it, I did not read it, but right away I saw that I clicked on the buttons ...
Therefore, I ask the administration and "actmyname" to forgive me for the first time.
I had never violated the rules of the forum before and did not commit any fraudulent actions.

I feel for ya man.  No system is perfect, and this one is new.  Give it some time, post normally, and then ask for forgiveness.

Why not just warn, but immediately paint the trust?
This is not a malicious violation of the rules, especially since it was a novelty, could not even think of such a thing. Now these measures were made by the trade and made an easy profit for themselves, I simply sent them off without thinking about the bad.
I beg you not to judge therefore strictly, because I did not have mercenary motives!

After going through your "Merit summary", it seems the feedback (given by actmyname) is actually fair.

As long as they don't abuse it (opposite of what you did), they shouldn't be afraid.

Based on the evidence, you're dishonest (your merit history can be monitored easily). Only "actmyname" can delete that rating.

And also this:

This has nothing to do with spam.

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Also why would you ask for a positive trust from "achow101"? You should earn it, not ask for it (that's another red flag right there).

Dear administration of the forum, many asked for help, but they all send to Meta to solve my problem. As the first discovered the Merit function, immediately without malicious intent, they sketched them to random users, which pages were opened there and sent, the more it was said that they had to be sent otherwise they could disappear.
Today I saw that I was spoiled for this trust, I think it is not deserved, I did not violate the rules of the forum, did not do what I was accused of, why this is not a fair attitude?
All forum users are now afraid to charge Merit, because they are also afraid to get a minus in the trust.
Help please solve this problem, because you can not corrupt the users.
Especially since I did not even spam on the forum, I always write constructive messages on the topic.