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Topic: Trustwallet generating an already in use account with transactions (Read 173 times)

legendary
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His contribution is, at the very least, pointing out a small misconception that adds an insight to the chronological order of your case --that you send from your binance exchange wallet, a hot wallet, not from your non-custodial wallet-- and shows a possible error in your judgement --which you also acknowledge as per the post I quote above-- because "the guy" shows his innocence by giving you a screenshot of a watch-only wallet, a possible hint that he doesn't has an access to the wallet.

Adding Jawhead999 explanation to the equation, let's see if we get this correctly:

First, you create an non-custodial wallet via Trustwallet, with address 0x34799829Fa3d040B3D57E5c550d90681a7283117, and then you realized that the address --I'll refer it to "3117" from this point forward-- has already got multiple transfers prior to your creation date. Suspicious by this activities, you decide to create a new account, a completely new account which has no prior transaction like 3117 which you deemed fit, and which address is yet to be presented here. But then, you send 0.48bnb from your Binance Exchange account to 3117 and not the new wallet despite knowing that 3117 has quite a suspicious behavior. Why?

Second, for the case of AjidZronze, giving the benefits of doubt and as the consensus at this point --which, I stressed again, you're quite agree-- is that "the guy" is also a victim here and has no knowledge of the case or access to the wallet. Wouldn't it be quite unethical to reveal his identity, like social medias and phone number, for public consumption? Especially on crypto forum like this where annonimity is quite a valuable asset.
ajidzronze's is irrelevant, all informations posted here about him is available on the internet, a quick Google search brings out all his info. I posted this to make it easier, more transparent and serious for anyone who cares to do some research on the fraud I've identified, I have no other motive for this...

There's a difference between information readily available on the internet and handing the information on a silver platter. What you did was the later. He's irrelevant, you've acknowledged that he's probably not at fault and is also a victim here, yet you put his name and details on the board that's specifically to inform people about scammers.

You argue that you --quoted and repeated here-- "post this to make it easier, more transparent and serious for anyone who cares to do some research on the fraud I've identified" and that you have no other motives for this. And you still refuse to mend the damage you did to him, by "exposing" him, by at least removing that part on your post, even after --I can't stressed this enough-- you acknowledged he might be a victim here. And you dare to say you have no other motive? You state on that very same sentence that I quote that you've identified the fraud. Who? Him? Because for anyone who skim through this thread, without properly reading it, that's the impression they'll get, thank's to your "readily available information". And all of this "identification" is done while you hide under an alt-account.

To the major issue at hand, what do you think went on Here.

What do I think went on here? Well, if I have to be blunt, there are three things happens here.

One, in case that "the guy" is really innocent here, then we have a serious case of defamation.

Two, a binance address that's aready used by someone, who happen to be also a whale and a thief who utilize the very wallet to stole money from unfortunate hands --emphasize on the plural form-- and you're somehow the first to report, although there should have been a lot of other victims out there... hmm... I don't know. Please help me, what exactly are you trying to insinuate here? That trustwallet stole money? That their dev is the thief? Because you've assure us that it is definitely not a malware or a keylogger or any hacking activity.

Three, your insinuation as described above aside, a salt to your wound, there is a case of carelessness. With your ability to "dig" the info of "the guy" and how you aware of the suspicious activity of wallet 3117, it will be justified to think that you're not a newbie to crypto --unlike what your account suggested-- you should have to know the rule of thumb to double and triple check your address prior to sending or receiving.

And you didn't do this.

Given you're sure there is no malware or keylogger involved in this story, this is the only explanation how you managed to accidentally sending your BNB from binance hot wallet to 3117. If we want to be all honest here, this case is 99.99% your fault.
newbie
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i can't understand your contributions. But investigation is right, the guy I had the chat with, thinking about it now, he might also be a victim of this scam, probably explains the reason why he had that address on watch, as for the hot wallet, yes that was mine, I sent 0.48bnb from my binance to Trustwallet that's where everything got started.

His contribution is, at the very least, pointing out a small misconception that adds an insight to the chronological order of your case --that you send from your binance exchange wallet, a hot wallet, not from your non-custodial wallet-- and shows a possible error in your judgement --which you also acknowledge as per the post I quote above-- because "the guy" shows his innocence by giving you a screenshot of a watch-only wallet, a possible hint that he doesn't has an access to the wallet.

Adding Jawhead999 explanation to the equation, let's see if we get this correctly:

First, you create an non-custodial wallet via Trustwallet, with address 0x34799829Fa3d040B3D57E5c550d90681a7283117, and then you realized that the address --I'll refer it to "3117" from this point forward-- has already got multiple transfers prior to your creation date. Suspicious by this activities, you decide to create a new account, a completely new account which has no prior transaction like 3117 which you deemed fit, and which address is yet to be presented here. But then, you send 0.48bnb from your Binance Exchange account to 3117 and not the new wallet despite knowing that 3117 has quite a suspicious behavior. Why?

Second, for the case of AjidZronze, giving the benefits of doubt and as the consensus at this point --which, I stressed again, you're quite agree-- is that "the guy" is also a victim here and has no knowledge of the case or access to the wallet. Wouldn't it be quite unethical to reveal his identity, like social medias and phone number, for public consumption? Especially on crypto forum like this where annonimity is quite a valuable asset.
ajidzronze's is irrelevant, all informations posted here about him is available on the internet, a quick Google search brings out all his info. I posted this to make it easier, more transparent and serious for anyone who cares to do some research on the fraud I've identified, I have no other motive for this...


To the major issue at hand, what do you think went on Here.
legendary
Activity: 2632
Merit: 1462
Yes, I'm an asshole
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i can't understand your contributions. But investigation is right, the guy I had the chat with, thinking about it now, he might also be a victim of this scam, probably explains the reason why he had that address on watch, as for the hot wallet, yes that was mine, I sent 0.48bnb from my binance to Trustwallet that's where everything got started.

His contribution is, at the very least, pointing out a small misconception that adds an insight to the chronological order of your case --that you send from your binance exchange wallet, a hot wallet, not from your non-custodial wallet-- and shows a possible error in your judgement --which you also acknowledge as per the post I quote above-- because "the guy" shows his innocence by giving you a screenshot of a watch-only wallet, a possible hint that he doesn't has an access to the wallet.

Adding Jawhead999 explanation to the equation, let's see if we get this correctly:

First, you create an non-custodial wallet via Trustwallet, with address 0x34799829Fa3d040B3D57E5c550d90681a7283117, and then you realized that the address --I'll refer it to "3117" from this point forward-- has already got multiple transfers prior to your creation date. Suspicious by this activities, you decide to create a new account, a completely new account which has no prior transaction like 3117 which you deemed fit, and which address is yet to be presented here. But then, you send 0.48bnb from your Binance Exchange account to 3117 and not the new wallet despite knowing that 3117 has quite a suspicious behavior. Why?

Second, for the case of AjidZronze, giving the benefits of doubt and as the consensus at this point --which, I stressed again, you're quite agree-- is that "the guy" is also a victim here and has no knowledge of the case or access to the wallet. Wouldn't it be quite unethical to reveal his identity, like social medias and phone number, for public consumption? Especially on crypto forum like this where annonimity is quite a valuable asset.
newbie
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I think OP narrating a different story here. Aside from vague statement, I find it hard to believe that trustwallet could be hacked especially if that's a non custodial wallet. How many chance that someone guess a mnemonic or private key to open one wallet? It's possible but it's  1 on a million times. I probably can't comprehend such story that this is might possible. Probably OP keylog on some malicious site that his not aware of.
ser read my post deligently and see my evidence presented, this is not keylog operation... THIS ACCOUNT HAS BEEN IN USE BEFORE TRUSTWALLET GENERATED IT FOR ME..
OK how is it possible that funds go inside and leave in matter of nano seconds, how's that human possible, something sinister is going on a massive scale, check the blockchain details of all I've written you see all these is connected to whale which I have on my watch list, they are still getting small deposits from wallets without balance (balance are wiped and sent to this whale wallet)
legendary
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I think OP narrating a different story here. Aside from vague statement, I find it hard to believe that trustwallet could be hacked especially if that's a non custodial wallet. How many chance that someone guess a mnemonic or private key to open one wallet? It's possible but it's  1 on a million times. I probably can't comprehend such story that this is might possible. Probably OP keylog on some malicious site that his not aware of.
newbie
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I find it's quite hard to understand your explanation, probably you need to clarify few thing.

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When I noticed that I created another account, with no transaction histories, but somehow I wanted to use pancakeswap so I sent 0.479bnb worth $300 at the time from my binance wallet : 0xEB2d2F1b8c558a40207669291Fda468E50c8A0bB

I didn't realize this was the account I was sending it to until I saw a sent alert right as I was receiving it into the wallet, it was so fast, it couldn't have been human. You can check the time difference on the blockchain.

This is not your address, this address is clear from Binance exchanges (hot wallet). Does your investigation are from this address? Then your all investigation are wrong since it's useless, if you got hacked it doesn't mean the hacker is using this address. Because when you send your coins to Binance, it will be transferred in Binance hot wallet.

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See my funds sitting inside his wallet, I don't know how the hell this is happening
Watch-only wallet is only for watch the balance and transaction of an address, he doesn't control that address. Actually he's right and you shouldn't blame him, you could do it yourself [1]

Anyway where's point trustwallet using old/existed address? It's only your own assumptions since you got hacked while you're thought you've carefully about your seeds?

[1] https://community.trustwallet.com/t/how-to-import-a-watch-address/846
i can't understand your contributions. But investigation is right, the guy I had the chat with, thinking about it now, he might also be a victim of this scam, probably explains the reason why he had that address on watch, as for the hot wallet, yes that was mine, I sent 0.48bnb from my binance to Trustwallet that's where everything got started.
newbie
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Where did you download the trustwallet app? It seems like you downloaded a fake trustwallet. This address 0x34799829Fa3d040B3D57E5c550d90681a7283117 were already made days ago, in fact it received an amount 47 days ago and you said you just made the wallet 3 days ago.

The creation/generating a wallet randomly with the same recovery seed as well as the same wallet address of other users has low probability with small chance to happen. And there's no existing case happened yet. Well, not today if it's really the case.
i donwloaded this from the official site Google play, see screenshot
https://ibb.co/qCX0Jqb also something similar has been reported here
https://www.reddit.com/r/trustwalletcommunity/comments/r788hb/hi_everyone_i_think_my_trust_wallet_was_hacked/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
legendary
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I find it's quite hard to understand your explanation, probably you need to clarify few thing.

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When I noticed that I created another account, with no transaction histories, but somehow I wanted to use pancakeswap so I sent 0.479bnb worth $300 at the time from my binance wallet : 0xEB2d2F1b8c558a40207669291Fda468E50c8A0bB

I didn't realize this was the account I was sending it to until I saw a sent alert right as I was receiving it into the wallet, it was so fast, it couldn't have been human. You can check the time difference on the blockchain.

This is not your address, this address is clear from Binance exchanges (hot wallet). Does your investigation are from this address? Then your all investigation are wrong since it's useless, if you got hacked it doesn't mean the hacker is using this address. Because when you send your coins to Binance, it will be transferred in Binance hot wallet.

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See my funds sitting inside his wallet, I don't know how the hell this is happening
Watch-only wallet is only for watch the balance and transaction of an address, he doesn't control that address. Actually he's right and you shouldn't blame him, you could do it yourself [1]

Anyway where's point trustwallet using old/existed address? It's only your own assumptions since you got hacked while you're thought you've carefully about your seeds?

[1] https://community.trustwallet.com/t/how-to-import-a-watch-address/846
copper member
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Where did you download the trustwallet app? It seems like you downloaded a fake trustwallet. This address 0x34799829Fa3d040B3D57E5c550d90681a7283117 were already made days ago, in fact it received an amount 47 days ago and you said you just made the wallet 3 days ago.

The creation/generating a wallet randomly with the same recovery seed as well as the same wallet address of other users has low probability with small chance to happen. And there's no existing case happened yet. Well, not today if it's really the case.
newbie
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I created this trustwallet multi account (0x34799829Fa3d040B3D57E5c550d90681a7283117)
3days ago, have the seed phrases written in a paper properly, never do I save It on my phone or on any digital device.

I noticed, series of fast in and out transactions on the bnb and ethereum wallet, note there were zero balances,.
This is the ethereum address on the wallet : 0x34799829Fa3d040B3D57E5c550d90681a7283117
This is the bnb address :
0x34799829Fa3d040B3D57E5c550d90681a7283117

When I noticed that I created another account, with no transaction histories, but somehow I wanted to use pancakeswap so I sent 0.479bnb worth $300 at the time from my binance wallet : 0xEB2d2F1b8c558a40207669291Fda468E50c8A0bB

I didn't realize this was the account I was sending it to until I saw a sent alert right as I was receiving it into the wallet, it was so fast, it couldn't have been human. You can check the time difference on the blockchain.

So I started an investigation into the addresses, I went to dapps logged into popular sites, to find a clue about who owns the addresses, and then I found something on opensea.io.

It had the user name : AjidZronze
A quick Google search, filtered social media accounts tired to this username,..
Here's what I found
Twitter : @AjidZronze
Instagram : AjidZronze
I checked his Twitter, his feed is full of scam coin (tethrino) promotion.

His Instagram had his whatsapp number on it. i messaged the number, the profile picture had same picture as on opensea.io

We chat back and forth between me begging him trying to see if I can get him to send back my money, because I am poor, and currently very deverstated by the loss.

Our chat doesn't go any where, I check his number on true caller.
I see his name as Muhammad Ajid.
And email [email protected]
Same username on the opensea.io connected to this trustwallet account.
The opensea.io profile is evidence that this account has been active before trustwallet generated it for me.

I repeat I had my seed phrases written in a piece of paper not saved digitally, I was not compromised, the hacker had the account previously and was just waiting for funds to be sent into it.

Our chats and relevant screenshots Can be found here, I think this has been going on for too long, trustwallet has to own up and refund our money..
Note: the person with the username ajidzronze attached to this wallet could have been a victim too. This is sketchy

Received 0.479bnb from my binance account at 3.46pm
https://ibb.co/Nt0Gbjh


0.479bnb sent out from trustwallet at 3.46pm
https://ibb.co/Gx2KGMT
To 0x7e0cEFD44Fee172853A2c79F722Ac9e111d10669

User profile on opensea.io notice the profile Pic, it's same as on his whatsapp profile pic
https://ibb.co/m08Nwc7

User profile on whatsapp
https://ibb.co/mRbDSFm

User profile on Instagram
https://ibb.co/XLkdcYM

User profile on telegram
https://ibb.co/4PJSrtc

User profile on true caller
https://ibb.co/nMJj8my

Here's our back and forth chat on whatsapp
Notice my transaction in his phone snapshot, clearly he has access to the wallet or was watching it as he claims , don't know why, and I don't know how, I hope trustwallet can answer this
https://ibb.co/K07YC0N


See my funds sitting inside his wallet, I don't know how the hell this is happening
https://ibb.co/SwtwPsh

As at the time of this writing, my funds have moved from where it was initially sent to 0x7e0cEFD44Fee172853A2c79F722Ac9e111d10669
. To a whale wallet
0x72A53cDBBcc1b9efa39c834A540550e23463AAcB

A quick analysis on the whale address will identify quick inflows from wallets with 0 balances, which might suggest wallet wiping...
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