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December 19, 2023, 10:11:34 AM
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Ok, I know this is off topic, but have you noticed there are a few of forum aces aka deranged trolls present on this thread? Lol.
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December 16, 2023, 08:53:08 PM
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Still, it's an intriguing thought to wonder what would happen if space were stretched to the point that atoms were literally being torn apart by it! Physicists have obviously thought about that possibility, but it's unclear if it will truly come to pass. Considering the fact that we really do not have a complete knowledge of the rules of physics, it is difficult to make any kind of predictions about the long-term future of the universe.

space does not stretch.. its just open space

due to the decay rate of the milky way centre losing mass by releasing energy, its grip on our sun loosens
due to the decay rate of the sun losing mass by releasing energy, its grip on our earth loosens

the sun is actually shrinking
the earth is actually shrinking

but the distances between centres of milky way to sun and sun to earth (to orbiting objects) is loosening
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December 16, 2023, 07:04:52 PM
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I would agree that 'they' don't know as much as they profess, and that they know a whole lot more than they profess.

Gravity is not at the center of the earth... like full gravity. At the center of the earth is no gravity. Why? Because mass is wherein gravity actually lies. Objects at the center of the earth, have the mass of the whole earth pulling at them evenly from every direction. This cause them to have no weight at all. Think about it. You would be weightless in a room at the center of the earth, floating in the air.


Try this idea. There isn't any gravity at all. There is only inertia. In addition, everything is accelerating away from everything else with a reasonably slow acceleration. The whole earth is becoming farther and farther apart. Every subatomic particle in your whole body is becoming farther and farther apart. All the stars and galaxies are moving away from each other... expanding universe.

Things only feel like gravitation, because the inertia in them makes gravitational feeling, as everything accelerates away from everything else.

You could make a whole working science out of this idea if you wanted to. And, it would probably make more sense than an E=MC2 universe.

The only reason why this isn't a science already is, the people who run the universities through their massive donations, would rather have an E=MC2 universe rather than an expanding universe.

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I cant even say that the video is credible enough. What you said may be true and the current scientific understanding of gravity and the expanding universe is supported by extensive evidence and studies. While it's valuable to explore different ideas, we should consider that the prevailing scientific models have undergone testing and validation frim scientists.

But nothing’s constant in this world except change right? Thats why science examines and refines theories based on new evidence. It's necessary to differentiate between speculative ideas and scientific principles to ensure a reliable understanding and not fake news.
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December 16, 2023, 04:24:39 PM
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Every subatomic particle in your whole body is becoming farther and farther apart.   All the stars and galaxies are moving away from each other... expanding universe.

Sentence 2 is true right now, but sentence 1 is not.

The measurement between subatomic particles does not change within the atom.  The expansion force you write about (dark energy) is currently spreading galaxies and stars apart, but not the stars themselves.   Gravity there is still winning.   Once those stars start to be torn apart, the strong nuclear force of the particles everywhere is still many factors of ten stronger than dark energy.     Eventually the Big Rip will occur, unless there is some other force we have yet to detect.

Interesting stuff for sure!



Indeed, There is no direct impact of space expansion at the cosmic scale on subatomic particles. Since the impacts of space expansion are felt on a far greater scale than at the atomic level, they are not directly witnessed. It is also very true that the behavior of matter within stars and galaxies is still dominated by gravity; hence, the space expansion is not stretching the particles that comprise those formations.

 Still, it's an intriguing thought to wonder what would happen if space were stretched to the point that atoms were literally being torn apart by it! Physicists have obviously thought about that possibility, but it's unclear if it will truly come to pass. Considering the fact that we really do not have a complete knowledge of the rules of physics, it is difficult to make any kind of predictions about the long-term future of the universe.
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December 16, 2023, 02:17:59 PM
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I would agree that 'they' don't know as much as they profess, and that they know a whole lot more than they profess.

Gravity is not at the center of the earth... like full gravity. At the center of the earth is no gravity. Why? Because mass is wherein gravity actually lies.


This is a terrifying idea to wrap my head in it’s quite eerie if you think about it i mean it will be silent but then you can probably see different things just floating around
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December 16, 2023, 11:21:25 AM
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in space there is no "matter" in the OPEN SPACE..

Our area of the galaxy has an average density of 1 atom per 30 cubic meters.  Doesn't seem like much, but it makes relativistic travel troublesome. 

my words were in regards to dark matter.. if you cant see/measure it/weigh it. its not the definition of "matter"

Right! At least as far as it concerns us in the scheme of things, it doesn't matter.

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December 16, 2023, 01:43:42 AM
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in space there is no "matter" in the OPEN SPACE..

Our area of the galaxy has an average density of 1 atom per 30 cubic meters.  Doesn't seem like much, but it makes relativistic travel troublesome. 

my words were in regards to dark matter.. if you cant see/measure it/weigh it. its not the definition of "matter"
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December 15, 2023, 09:57:00 PM
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in space there is no "matter" in the OPEN SPACE..

Our area of the galaxy has an average density of 1 atom per 30 cubic meters.  Doesn't seem like much, but it makes relativistic travel troublesome. 
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December 15, 2023, 03:08:38 PM
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The universe isn't meant to be expanding that way. It only happens when it start weakening.

The ability of the stars to resist the great pull depends on the bubble covering the "Universe". The weaker it gets the harder it is to resist. They expand along with the bubble and will eventually get ripped apart with great explosion and great burning.

there is no bubble

instead imagine the sun is on a string tethered to the centre of the milky way. however the exertion of energy from the centre reduces the mass of the centre, thus weakening the hold of the string, thus loosening the string to allow the sun to move further distance per rotation in a spiral orbit effect

as does the earths string tethered to the sun. the suns exertion of energy uses mass meaning less sun mass loosens the string tethering the earth in a spiral orbit effect



so you see the earth is a bigger distance away from
the milky way centre due to its spiral orbit of the sun,
due to the sun spiral orbit of the milky way centre
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December 15, 2023, 03:33:08 AM
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Every subatomic particle in your whole body is becoming farther and farther apart.   All the stars and galaxies are moving away from each other... expanding universe.

Sentence 2 is true right now, but sentence 1 is not.

The measurement between subatomic particles does not change within the atom.  The expansion force you write about (dark energy) is currently spreading galaxies and stars apart, but not the stars themselves.   Gravity there is still winning.   Once those stars start to be torn apart, the strong nuclear force of the particles everywhere is still many factors of ten stronger than dark energy.     Eventually the Big Rip will occur, unless there is some other force we have yet to detect.

Interesting stuff for sure!




The universe isn't meant to be expanding that way. It only happens when it start weakening.

The ability of the stars to resist the great pull depends on the bubble covering the "Universe". The weaker it gets the harder it is to resist. They expand along with the bubble and will eventually get ripped apart with great explosion and great burning.
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December 15, 2023, 02:17:50 AM
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what you have to learn is if you put a ball on a piece of string and then you spin around in circles..
you then although you have the string gravitationally linking you to the ball. cause the ball to orbit you
this centrifugal force on the ball tries to push the ball away from you, you feel the string tucking on your hand trying to get more distance which it gains if you loosened your hand a bit

if u had a drone recording this from above you would see the ball actually do a spiral.

if you imagine the orbit of earth around the sun as not a complete circle but instead a spiral. where each orbit, earth is slightly further away, allowing less gravitational power from sun, thus allowing earth to get further away on the next orbit


notice how the early loops (center) are small millimeter distances apart per cycle
then as the orbits continue the distance greatens each time

the sun does the same with its relationship with the milky way

and thats why we are increasing distance(increased radius) from the governing force(milky way->sun) (sun_earth)

enjoy that thought


there is a reason why they say the earth is 4.5 billion years old
because at a 1.5cm radius increase per year which is 0.00000000001% of todays earth-sun distance, it took the earth
billion of years to have, once cooled into a crusted rock billions of years to reach the distance earth has reached
but we are gaining more distance slowly (unnoticeable with the human eye even at the measure over a century)

but in the big cosmic measure of billions of years. they do say we are "speeding up" and moving further away at an accelerating speed

over  4.5billion years the sun has lost 0.03% of its mass via conversion to energy. which has meant it has less gravitational control compared to billions of years(it has loosened the string attached to the ball)



as for dark "matter" pfft..
in space there is no "matter" in the OPEN SPACE.. energy(plasma waves) is not formed into atoms yet* to become matter, it remains in its plasma state
think of all plasma as frequency waves of different frequencies..
we only have machines to view/observe/record only a certain range of frequencies magnetic spectrum of (sound-xray)

dark "matter" is just the plasma outside of out instruments ability.
and frequencies can do things to other things. like resist, refract, reflect... interfere ... coalesce, attract and so on

*the right type of frequencies need to interact with each other to cause different reactions. some of them can cause atoms to form and some do the opposite
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December 15, 2023, 02:01:53 AM
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The only reason why this isn't a science already is, the people who run the universities through their massive donations, would rather have an E=MC2 universe rather than an expanding universe.

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BADecker, please accept the lord as your savior, saviour and salvatore and stop trolling the unsuspected newbies, where is the relation between e=mc2 and your theory about expansion of the universe? that equation is merely an explanation about objects and their speed and their energy.  Which explains for example, more you have mass, the more energy is required for you to gain speed, the more energy you'll have the faster you move.

Lol, look at me, a deranged troll trying to teach something to another deranged troll. 😂
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December 15, 2023, 12:58:11 AM
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Every subatomic particle in your whole body is becoming farther and farther apart.   All the stars and galaxies are moving away from each other... expanding universe.

Sentence 2 is true right now, but sentence 1 is not.

The measurement between subatomic particles does not change within the atom.  The expansion force you write about (dark energy) is currently spreading galaxies and stars apart, but not the stars themselves.   Gravity there is still winning.   Once those stars start to be torn apart, the strong nuclear force of the particles everywhere is still many factors of ten stronger than dark energy.     Eventually the Big Rip will occur, unless there is some other force we have yet to detect.

Interesting stuff for sure!

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December 14, 2023, 09:43:16 PM
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The universe is immense, with billions of galaxies each containing billions of stars and planets. Only a tiny fraction has been observed by humans so far.
The universe is continuously expanding ever since the Big Bang 13.8 billion years ago. It is getting bigger, colder and darker over time.
There are trillions of "rogue" planets not attached to any stars roaming interstellar space throughout the universe.
Supernovae explosions happen when giant stars die; these can briefly outshine entire galaxies and produce massive bursts of energy and matter.


The Mysteries:

Dark matter makes up about 27% of the universe - but we don't know what it is. We can't directly observe it, only detect its gravitational effects.
Dark energy is theorized to drive the accelerated expansion of the universe over time. The nature and cause of dark energy remains unexplained.
Life outside of Earth - we have not conclusively detected intelligent or even microbial life outside planet Earth, but many believe the size of the universe makes other life inevitable.
Black holes continue perplex - their interiors seemingly disconnect from the normal rules of space and time. We have much still to understand.
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August 11, 2023, 02:51:30 PM
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I would agree that 'they' don't know as much as they profess, and that they know a whole lot more than they profess.

Gravity is not at the center of the earth... like full gravity. At the center of the earth is no gravity. Why? Because mass is wherein gravity actually lies. Objects at the center of the earth, have the mass of the whole earth pulling at them evenly from every direction. This cause them to have no weight at all. Think about it. You would be weightless in a room at the center of the earth, floating in the air.


Try this idea. There isn't any gravity at all. There is only inertia. In addition, everything is accelerating away from everything else with a reasonably slow acceleration. The whole earth is becoming farther and farther apart. Every subatomic particle in your whole body is becoming farther and farther apart. All the stars and galaxies are moving away from each other... expanding universe.

Things only feel like gravitation, because the inertia in them makes gravitational feeling, as everything accelerates away from everything else.

You could make a whole working science out of this idea if you wanted to. And, it would probably make more sense than an E=MC2 universe.

The only reason why this isn't a science already is, the people who run the universities through their massive donations, would rather have an E=MC2 universe rather than an expanding universe.

Cool
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August 11, 2023, 01:06:27 PM
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We are on a one way trip to core

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcLqIDqmNHY
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