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Quote from: DKREBEL86 on November 25, 2018, 04:55:33 AM

I know that this may sound unpopular, but I feel that the current downtrend is not going to end soon. During last year, many vicissitudes impacted badly on liquidity and volumes and I think that the fraudulent ICOs are one of the main responsible of this crack. Being more active with trading is the only thing I am relying on to improve my portfolio, but it requires a lot of discipline and courage. What's your current strategy, guys?

I share your opinion
We are in a stage of changing market structure
The best for the market to be controlled by believers in crypto not
Who wants quick gain only.

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Quote from: DKREBEL86 on November 30, 2018, 04:16:59 PM

Quote from: el kaka22 on November 30, 2018, 11:35:17 AM

There are some "tulips" between the altcoin system, the type of coins that the owners of it already gave up on working for it.
I have been part of couple of ICO and new coins right after ICO term and I have seen how they have been run and most of them are having trouble finding funding because they got ICO's during 1500 thousand dollar per ETH price but now it worth less than 10% of that.

Hence, they are running out of funds very quickly and started to leave the project all together. Those are the tulips. However, stuff like ETH and NEO and Dash etc etc all have a big potential to be reborn after this and can definitely work towards getting to their ATH prices one day. Not right away and not anytime soon I can tell you that for sure but they will beat it eventually.

I might agree on this. Ethereum is now depending on Constantinople. If the fork goes well, ETH might recover very well.

i think that ypu will be able to eait until the better days of you will not temptTate to panic selling and save what you have

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Quote from: DKREBEL86 on November 25, 2018, 04:55:33 AM

I know that this may sound unpopular, but I feel that the current downtrend is not going to end soon. During last year, many vicissitudes impacted badly on liquidity and volumes and I think that the fraudulent ICOs are one of the main responsible of this crack. Being more active with trading is the only thing I am relying on to improve my portfolio, but it requires a lot of discipline and courage. What's your current strategy, guys?

i think taht when tjing lile taht is going on the best solution is to sit it quietly amd wait untill the better days to come

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Quote from: el kaka22 on November 30, 2018, 11:35:17 AM

There are some "tulips" between the altcoin system, the type of coins that the owners of it already gave up on working for it.
I have been part of couple of ICO and new coins right after ICO term and I have seen how they have been run and most of them are having trouble finding funding because they got ICO's during 1500 thousand dollar per ETH price but now it worth less than 10% of that.

Hence, they are running out of funds very quickly and started to leave the project all together. Those are the tulips. However, stuff like ETH and NEO and Dash etc etc all have a big potential to be reborn after this and can definitely work towards getting to their ATH prices one day. Not right away and not anytime soon I can tell you that for sure but they will beat it eventually.

I might agree on this. Ethereum is now depending on Constantinople. If the fork goes well, ETH might recover very well.

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There are some "tulips" between the altcoin system, the type of coins that the owners of it already gave up on working for it.
I have been part of couple of ICO and new coins right after ICO term and I have seen how they have been run and most of them are having trouble finding funding because they got ICO's during 1500 thousand dollar per ETH price but now it worth less than 10% of that.

Hence, they are running out of funds very quickly and started to leave the project all together. Those are the tulips. However, stuff like ETH and NEO and Dash etc etc all have a big potential to be reborn after this and can definitely work towards getting to their ATH prices one day. Not right away and not anytime soon I can tell you that for sure but they will beat it eventually.

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Quote from: BitcoinPanther on November 29, 2018, 04:57:08 AM

Quote from: taratorly on November 25, 2018, 05:37:29 AM

Quote from: DKREBEL86 on November 25, 2018, 05:32:37 AM

Quote from: tolgahanuzun on November 25, 2018, 05:27:37 AM

It seems to me that scam projects have hardly affected the price of BTC / Rather, it is connected with market manipulations. They began last year and will now reach the level where these manipulations with the BTC price began.

I do agree. Let’s look at the price before August 2017 and see if that’s going to be the threshold. if that happens Ethereum is at a dead end.

SCAM or not all coins are getting lost. We all lost right now. Everyone had a 3K rumor. And it happened. It is certain that there will be a wide-scale cleaning on the market.

Weeding out is a good way of removing incompetent tokens/coins. This way, cryptocurrency will have a better reputation. I am glad that government have acknowledge cryptocurrency and started their regulation in them. It is better to be taxed and be secured of our investment than having no tax and be a victim of scams. I do not think cryptocurrency will be reborn or like tulips since cryptocurrency had not died. It is just in the process of cleaning its system of fraudulent stuff.

We need more people like you, man!

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Quote from: taratorly on November 25, 2018, 05:37:29 AM

Quote from: DKREBEL86 on November 25, 2018, 05:32:37 AM

Quote from: tolgahanuzun on November 25, 2018, 05:27:37 AM

It seems to me that scam projects have hardly affected the price of BTC / Rather, it is connected with market manipulations. They began last year and will now reach the level where these manipulations with the BTC price began.

I do agree. Let’s look at the price before August 2017 and see if that’s going to be the threshold. if that happens Ethereum is at a dead end.

SCAM or not all coins are getting lost. We all lost right now. Everyone had a 3K rumor. And it happened. It is certain that there will be a wide-scale cleaning on the market.

Weeding out is a good way of removing incompetent tokens/coins. This way, cryptocurrency will have a better reputation. I am glad that government have acknowledge cryptocurrency and started their regulation in them. It is better to be taxed and be secured of our investment than having no tax and be a victim of scams. I do not think cryptocurrency will be reborn or like tulips since cryptocurrency had not died. It is just in the process of cleaning its system of fraudulent stuff.

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This issue has been debated for many years, bitcoin and tulip must have nothing to do with, but because the cryptocurrency market is very volatile, usually bankrupt investors think that bitcoin is a tulip. In the cryptocurrency market, if someone makes money, someone must lose money.

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Quote from: DKREBEL86 on November 29, 2018, 04:28:35 AM

Quote from: xiaoY on November 29, 2018, 04:25:49 AM

You are too pessimistic, bitcoin must not be a tulip event, and bitcoin is not dead. A sharp depreciation is only an inevitable phenomenon in the growth process. Otherwise, why does it take off, and only a large devaluation will lead to takeoff.

I’m not pessimistic, you don’t read properly. I said that I think that the downtrend is not ending soon. Then I asked for your thought, which I realised is a religious alike thought.

There was a possibility for crypto to get a little correction but i guess we have entered the reversal trend which means we will not see any big bearish market again in the future though so many people are still putting their face on crypto. It looks so difficult to predict and some people said bitcoin will go even lower than 3k

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I also think that the red times are not going to end before the end of this year. It is very interesting how the market can manipulate the investors minds. Few days ago, everybody said, it is the end and if you look at BTT now, every second topic speaks for the "new beginning of crypto".

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Quote from: xiaoY on November 29, 2018, 04:25:49 AM

You are too pessimistic, bitcoin must not be a tulip event, and bitcoin is not dead. A sharp depreciation is only an inevitable phenomenon in the growth process. Otherwise, why does it take off, and only a large devaluation will lead to takeoff.

I’m not pessimistic, you don’t read properly. I said that I think that the downtrend is not ending soon. Then I asked for your thought, which I realised is a religious alike thought.

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You are too pessimistic, bitcoin must not be a tulip event, and bitcoin is not dead. A sharp depreciation is only an inevitable phenomenon in the growth process. Otherwise, why does it take off, and only a large devaluation will lead to takeoff.

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Quote from: Bonheur on November 28, 2018, 08:39:30 AM

Amazon share crashed from 90 dollars to 6 dollars in the dotcom bubble.But people who invested at that moment got very rich right now.
Find something you believe will be work hundreds of the current price and buy some and wait.That is always a strategy.
Also a long shot but unless you don't buy them by selling your house, you should be good.

Yes, true. But many other .com companies failed.

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Amazon share crashed from 90 dollars to 6 dollars in the dotcom bubble.But people who invested at that moment got very rich right now.
Find something you believe will be work hundreds of the current price and buy some and wait.That is always a strategy.
Also a long shot but unless you don't buy them by selling your house, you should be good.

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Quote from: DKREBEL86 on November 25, 2018, 04:55:33 AM

I know that this may sound unpopular, but I feel that the current downtrend is not going to end soon. During last year, many vicissitudes impacted badly on liquidity and volumes and I think that the fraudulent ICOs are one of the main responsible of this crack. Being more active with trading is the only thing I am relying on to improve my portfolio, but it requires a lot of discipline and courage. What's your current strategy, guys?

Yes, there are a number of strategies that I do
1. Long-term investment by buying coin coins that I believe will be expensive in 1 or 2 years.
2. I trade by taking profits quickly, meaning we only invest in seconds, minutes, hours or daily.

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Quote from: Simayi on November 27, 2018, 04:17:13 AM

I think if the bubble bursts, you need to judge based on your investment crypto. Bitcoin won't break, it just bleeds, but some extreme control crypto will die!

Yes, I do agree on that. What do you think about hyper-ledger.?

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I think if the bubble bursts, you need to judge based on your investment crypto. Bitcoin won't break, it just bleeds, but some extreme control crypto will die!

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I don't believe that the cryptocurrency is a tulip. If this is the case, it will be a huge disaster in the 21st century. I believe Bitcoin will not disappear and Bitcoin will be more expensive in the future.

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Quote from: FelippeHeinz on November 26, 2018, 02:32:29 PM

I firmly believe that the cause of the crash is not that of ICO's. We are going through a correction, the market is returning to normal. Another determining factor is the crisis in the global market, assets are plummeting, and several countries are on the verge of a financial meltdown.

For me this fall is not worrisome, it is only a phase of price re-stabilization.

I don't think that we can currently define a reliable level of normality of the price, but I agree on the fact that the global markets are down and that have an influence on the crypto markets.

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Quote from: DKREBEL86 on November 25, 2018, 04:55:33 AM

I know that this may sound unpopular, but I feel that the current downtrend is not going to end soon. During last year, many vicissitudes impacted badly on liquidity and volumes and I think that the fraudulent ICOs are one of the main responsible of this crack. Being more active with trading is the only thing I am relying on to improve my portfolio, but it requires a lot of discipline and courage. What's your current strategy, guys?

I am very sorry, i think i humbly disagree with your opinion about the duration of the downtrend,the bear market will soon end,let us believe that before the end of November,2018,every thing will be over and the bull run will start

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And with ico to the current market situation? If you notice, Bitcoin drops and pulls the whole market along. And what can you say about the fall of the market in the past? So the influence of ico? And what then leads to the growth of the market? I think that you are looking in the wrong direction. What we are seeing now is the usual manipulation, which ultimately has to throw away the extras from the market crypto and, of course, give the big players to buy the top crypto assets. But such a situation cannot be permanent, there will definitely be a market reversal and we will see another increase.

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I firmly believe that the cause of the crash is not that of ICO's. We are going through a correction, the market is returning to normal. Another determining factor is the crisis in the global market, assets are plummeting, and several countries are on the verge of a financial meltdown.

For me this fall is not worrisome, it is only a phase of price re-stabilization.

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Quote from: Gontxi on November 25, 2018, 06:51:20 AM

nothing much I do is just study the market and try to trace all new information especially for analysis. one of the things that can restore losses is trade, but this is not easy and very risky. bitcoin has dropped to level 3k and I agree this is the lowest decline and will end soon. reborn for 2019

Yeah, that's the thing which we can do for now. We can study the market and also researching another new coin (maybe we can find one or more to invest). Hope everything will be better in the next year, 2019.

So what's going to be your bet for 2019?

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Quote from: Gontxi on November 25, 2018, 06:51:20 AM

nothing much I do is just study the market and try to trace all new information especially for analysis. one of the things that can restore losses is trade, but this is not easy and very risky. bitcoin has dropped to level 3k and I agree this is the lowest decline and will end soon. reborn for 2019

Yeah, that's the thing which we can do for now. We can study the market and also researching another new coin (maybe we can find one or more to invest). Hope everything will be better in the next year, 2019.

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Quote from: letyouearn on November 26, 2018, 08:59:05 AM

Quote from: DKREBEL86 on November 25, 2018, 04:55:33 AM

I know that this may sound unpopular, but I feel that the current downtrend is not going to end soon. During last year, many vicissitudes impacted badly on liquidity and volumes and I think that the fraudulent ICOs are one of the main responsible of this crack. Being more active with trading is the only thing I am relying on to improve my portfolio, but it requires a lot of discipline and courage. What's your current strategy, guys?

Shorting, tracking and selling obviously dead tokens, looking for coins with some passive income (POS, masternodes, dividends etc). Bounties/airdrops/contests also. All I can do to survive this bear market

Selling dead tokens is the hardest I assume Grin

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Quote from: DKREBEL86 on November 25, 2018, 04:55:33 AM

I know that this may sound unpopular, but I feel that the current downtrend is not going to end soon. During last year, many vicissitudes impacted badly on liquidity and volumes and I think that the fraudulent ICOs are one of the main responsible of this crack. Being more active with trading is the only thing I am relying on to improve my portfolio, but it requires a lot of discipline and courage. What's your current strategy, guys?

Shorting, tracking and selling obviously dead tokens, looking for coins with some passive income (POS, masternodes, dividends etc). Bounties/airdrops/contests also. All I can do to survive this bear market

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Quote from: Bittalk12 on November 25, 2018, 10:07:42 AM

Currently, I am also thinking of another way on how to earn from this downtrend but losses is always inevitable specially if you don't have enough knowledge on how to read the chart or active analyzing those crypto related news which is the source of fundamental analysis. I don't do day trading because I have another personal job to handle everyday. I guess holding is the only thing I can do for now and buying it back at a lower price to cover some losses might work specially when this red market stops.

You should consider to use some automation for trading. I also work but I can trade in automatic

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Actually the tulip craze/bubble never really happened Wink

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Currently, I am also thinking of another way on how to earn from this downtrend but losses is always inevitable specially if you don't have enough knowledge on how to read the chart or active analyzing those crypto related news which is the source of fundamental analysis. I don't do day trading because I have another personal job to handle everyday. I guess holding is the only thing I can do for now and buying it back at a lower price to cover some losses might work specially when this red market stops.

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Quote from: DKREBEL86 on November 25, 2018, 05:06:26 AM

Quote from: gelinshidong on November 25, 2018, 05:00:53 AM

Bitcoin is by no means a tulip, but many people will leave the cryptocurrency market. This is inevitable. At present, the cryptocurrency market is sluggish, but investors should not lose confidence, losing confidence is equal to losing the future.

Mine was a provocation, I don’t think that Bitcoin is a tulip. I wanted to point at the fact that the ICO trend polluted the market quite a lot.

That is not to blame, the more ICO the more tokens that will use the platform tokens to make them valuable. ICO is a good development, its just that when something goes up will always come down. People are just cashing out and also those who p[umped the market are making money at every spikes because there are still lots of investors are trying to get into the market. And then all the bad news and fud came along with this bear market. BTC is not tulip, BTC has limited supply.

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You trade in this bear market? Maybe I need to take a few classes from you because I have blown most of my trades since the market has become difficult to predict

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In this market, I would not sell anything

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I just see BTC going through another cycle, but people underestimaned the lenght of it. I believe that 3.7k was the bottom for one reason: the miner profitability has now approached 0, meaning many will mine at 0 profit or stop mining. The conseguence would be an adjustment of the difficulty for everyone else, and other people seeing the opportunity to join and start mining now.

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Quote from: Astermony on November 25, 2018, 08:10:04 AM

Still, I will keep my investment in my portfolio I will not sell it until the price is stable, I can't afford to lose my stocks, my belief in crypto still is in the height, a strategy no more needs, I can wait.

I respect your point of view but I think that sitting on your bags might be bold. I’m more on the active side of the investment.

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Still, I will keep my investment in my portfolio I will not sell it until the price is stable, I can't afford to lose my stocks, my belief in crypto still is in the height, a strategy no more needs, I can wait.

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Quote from: hrunya102 on November 25, 2018, 07:54:10 AM

I keep my finger on the pulse, waiting for a good point of entry, the goal has not yet determined.

I admire your optimistic angle!

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Quote from: FLHippy on November 25, 2018, 07:41:06 AM

Quote from: DKREBEL86 on November 25, 2018, 07:38:41 AM

Quote from: FLHippy on November 25, 2018, 07:28:58 AM

Quote from: DKREBEL86 on November 25, 2018, 04:55:33 AM

I know that this may sound unpopular, but I feel that the current downtrend is not going to end soon. During last year, many vicissitudes impacted badly on liquidity and volumes and I think that the fraudulent ICOs are one of the main responsible of this crack. Being more active with trading is the only thing I am relying on to improve my portfolio, but it requires a lot of discipline and courage. What's your current strategy, guys?

If you look at tulips graph, you will see only one big peak and that was everything, while Bitcoin was at ATH for a long time and now it slowly falling. So I think that everrything is okay, one bubble burst, but still crypto go ahead.

Bitcoin is not tulip because of the blockchain. But what about the sloppy ERC-20?

Because of the blockchain? What does it mean?
Yes, blockchain is a product, like tulips are the product, so what you would like to tell us?

I’m just saying that the Bitcoin value comes mainly from the blockchain use cases that have been very reliable so far. On the contrary, ERC-20 protocol has demonstrated some glitches. What I’m trying to say is that, the price is just a reflection of the underlying technology, so the crash might be driven by the ethereum.

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I keep my finger on the pulse, waiting for a good point of entry, the goal has not yet determined.

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Quote from: DKREBEL86 on November 25, 2018, 07:38:41 AM

Quote from: FLHippy on November 25, 2018, 07:28:58 AM

Quote from: DKREBEL86 on November 25, 2018, 04:55:33 AM

I know that this may sound unpopular, but I feel that the current downtrend is not going to end soon. During last year, many vicissitudes impacted badly on liquidity and volumes and I think that the fraudulent ICOs are one of the main responsible of this crack. Being more active with trading is the only thing I am relying on to improve my portfolio, but it requires a lot of discipline and courage. What's your current strategy, guys?

If you look at tulips graph, you will see only one big peak and that was everything, while Bitcoin was at ATH for a long time and now it slowly falling. So I think that everrything is okay, one bubble burst, but still crypto go ahead.

Bitcoin is not tulip because of the blockchain. But what about the sloppy ERC-20?

Because of the blockchain? What does it mean?
Yes, blockchain is a product, like tulips are the product, so what you would like to tell us?

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Quote from: Rati24 on November 25, 2018, 07:36:40 AM

I think this is not a matter of scam ico projects but the decision of the whales to put pressure on the market. They want to buy bitcoin at a cheap price for example 3k dollars. Well, think for yourself why buy at 6k if you can buy at 3k. Everyone decides for himself, but after the fall there will be growth as always.

Whales are now buying on OTC exchanges so it may be correct. But ICOs have been a clear curse

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Quote from: FLHippy on November 25, 2018, 07:28:58 AM

Quote from: DKREBEL86 on November 25, 2018, 04:55:33 AM

I know that this may sound unpopular, but I feel that the current downtrend is not going to end soon. During last year, many vicissitudes impacted badly on liquidity and volumes and I think that the fraudulent ICOs are one of the main responsible of this crack. Being more active with trading is the only thing I am relying on to improve my portfolio, but it requires a lot of discipline and courage. What's your current strategy, guys?

If you look at tulips graph, you will see only one big peak and that was everything, while Bitcoin was at ATH for a long time and now it slowly falling. So I think that everrything is okay, one bubble burst, but still crypto go ahead.

Bitcoin is not tulip because of the blockchain. But what about the sloppy ERC-20?

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Quote from: blackhawkeye1912 on November 25, 2018, 07:23:29 AM

If considering the bitcoin price last year and this year, bitcoin can be compared to tulip bubble that bloomed last year and burst this year. You had a point that one of several reasons of the bursting is the failed ICOs leading to failed investments. A lot of projects died so soon without noticing their existence in the cryptocurrency. Bitcoin is somehow affected by these.

I think that ETH is influencing that trend more than the Bitcoin itself. USD-ETH and USD-BTC trend are so correlated that is difficult to understand which is influencing the other, but since ICOs run on ERC-20 (mainly) I believe that ETH is about to leave the scene to more sustainable assets.

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I think this is not a matter of scam ico projects but the decision of the whales to put pressure on the market. They want to buy bitcoin at a cheap price for example 3k dollars. Well, think for yourself why buy at 6k if you can buy at 3k. Everyone decides for himself, but after the fall there will be growth as always.

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Quote from: DKREBEL86 on November 25, 2018, 04:55:33 AM

I know that this may sound unpopular, but I feel that the current downtrend is not going to end soon. During last year, many vicissitudes impacted badly on liquidity and volumes and I think that the fraudulent ICOs are one of the main responsible of this crack. Being more active with trading is the only thing I am relying on to improve my portfolio, but it requires a lot of discipline and courage. What's your current strategy, guys?

If you look at tulips graph, you will see only one big peak and that was everything, while Bitcoin was at ATH for a long time and now it slowly falling. So I think that everrything is okay, one bubble burst, but still crypto go ahead.

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If considering the bitcoin price last year and this year, bitcoin can be compared to tulip bubble that bloomed last year and burst this year. You had a point that one of several reasons of the bursting is the failed ICOs leading to failed investments. A lot of projects died so soon without noticing their existence in the cryptocurrency. Bitcoin is somehow affected by these.

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Quote from: Gontxi on November 25, 2018, 06:51:20 AM

Quote from: DKREBEL86 on November 25, 2018, 04:55:33 AM

I know that this may sound unpopular, but I feel that the current downtrend is not going to end soon. During last year, many vicissitudes impacted badly on liquidity and volumes and I think that the fraudulent ICOs are one of the main responsible of this crack. Being more active with trading is the only thing I am relying on to improve my portfolio, but it requires a lot of discipline and courage. What's your current strategy, guys?

nothing much I do is just study the market and try to trace all new information especially for analysis. one of the things that can restore losses is trade, but this is not easy and very risky. bitcoin has dropped to level 3k and I agree this is the lowest decline and will end soon. reborn for 2019

Which channels do you use the most? Reddit Twitter ?

Good approach!

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Quote from: beehimneff on November 25, 2018, 06:51:05 AM

My strategy is to sit still and wait for the market to recover. I am not very experienced in trading, so I will not risk to trade now, it is better to wait for more favorable conditions.

I’m sure you can find some good tools that can help you. Yanda is the one I promote, but also other platform like BmyBit.com can be great for you!

Holding is very risky!

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Quote from: DKREBEL86 on November 25, 2018, 04:55:33 AM

I know that this may sound unpopular, but I feel that the current downtrend is not going to end soon. During last year, many vicissitudes impacted badly on liquidity and volumes and I think that the fraudulent ICOs are one of the main responsible of this crack. Being more active with trading is the only thing I am relying on to improve my portfolio, but it requires a lot of discipline and courage. What's your current strategy, guys?

nothing much I do is just study the market and try to trace all new information especially for analysis. one of the things that can restore losses is trade, but this is not easy and very risky. bitcoin has dropped to level 3k and I agree this is the lowest decline and will end soon. reborn for 2019

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My strategy is to sit still and wait for the market to recover. I am not very experienced in trading, so I will not risk to trade now, it is better to wait for more favorable conditions.

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Quote from: DKREBEL86 on November 25, 2018, 04:55:33 AM

I know that this may sound unpopular, but I feel that the current downtrend is not going to end soon. During last year, many vicissitudes impacted badly on liquidity and volumes and I think that the fraudulent ICOs are one of the main responsible of this crack. Being more active with trading is the only thing I am relying on to improve my portfolio, but it requires a lot of discipline and courage. What's your current strategy, guys?

I prefer to stay on and hang on history has a lot of this and everytime there is a huge price drop doomsayers are in a hurry to post that this is the end of Bitcoin, when for the record this scenario have happen a hundred times and this is not going to be the end of this kind of scenario.

That’s something I partially agree with. It is true, dumps happened many times during the last 10 years but the conditions where different.

I believe that this trend doesn’t mean the end, but it can be an unexpected breakthrough of the assets that deserve more attention than Ethereum or Bitcoin cash.

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Quote from: DKREBEL86 on November 25, 2018, 04:55:33 AM

I know that this may sound unpopular, but I feel that the current downtrend is not going to end soon. During last year, many vicissitudes impacted badly on liquidity and volumes and I think that the fraudulent ICOs are one of the main responsible of this crack. Being more active with trading is the only thing I am relying on to improve my portfolio, but it requires a lot of discipline and courage. What's your current strategy, guys?

I prefer to stay on and hang on history has a lot of this and everytime there is a huge price drop doomsayers are in a hurry to post that this is the end of Bitcoin, when for the record this scenario have happen a hundred times and this is not going to be the end of this kind of scenario.

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Quote from: hvezdasmrti on November 25, 2018, 06:29:48 AM

Tulips usually die in autumn and reborn in spring... Bitcoin tullips do the same but you never know which spring and autumn it will be...

That should go on the BBC channel!

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Quote from: Reatim on November 25, 2018, 06:40:06 AM

Quote from: DKREBEL86 on November 25, 2018, 04:55:33 AM

I know that this may sound unpopular, but I feel that the current downtrend is not going to end soon. During last year, many vicissitudes impacted badly on liquidity and volumes and I think that the fraudulent ICOs are one of the main responsible of this crack. Being more active with trading is the only thing I am relying on to improve my portfolio, but it requires a lot of discipline and courage. What's your current strategy, guys?

Well ask yourself if we're in the bottom already. If you think we're not then don't invest or trade. Just wait till things normalize. But if you see that the bears are exhaustive selling this bitcoin or crypto, then I think we're going on a reborn phase in the next coming weeks.

Well, mine wasn’t a question to understand what to do. Was more a thread to see what’s your feeling. So, what’s your feeling?

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Quote from: DKREBEL86 on November 25, 2018, 04:55:33 AM

I know that this may sound unpopular, but I feel that the current downtrend is not going to end soon. During last year, many vicissitudes impacted badly on liquidity and volumes and I think that the fraudulent ICOs are one of the main responsible of this crack. Being more active with trading is the only thing I am relying on to improve my portfolio, but it requires a lot of discipline and courage. What's your current strategy, guys?

Well ask yourself if we're in the bottom already. If you think we're not then don't invest or trade. Just wait till things normalize. But if you see that the bears are exhaustive selling this bitcoin or crypto, then I think we're going on a reborn phase in the next coming weeks.

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Quote from: juchin on November 25, 2018, 06:12:05 AM

Quote from: DKREBEL86 on November 25, 2018, 04:55:33 AM

I know that this may sound unpopular, but I feel that the current downtrend is not going to end soon. During last year, many vicissitudes impacted badly on liquidity and volumes and I think that the fraudulent ICOs are one of the main responsible of this crack. Being more active with trading is the only thing I am relying on to improve my portfolio, but it requires a lot of discipline and courage. What's your current strategy, guys?

I don't think the situation of market now is because of ICO. Investors may lost belief on ICO but they can choose top rank coins. I think this is the obvious thing that it must experience after the price bubble at the end of 2017

That’s your point of view and I respect it, but I don’t really get your point here

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Quote from: DKREBEL86 on November 25, 2018, 04:55:33 AM

I know that this may sound unpopular, but I feel that the current downtrend is not going to end soon. During last year, many vicissitudes impacted badly on liquidity and volumes and I think that the fraudulent ICOs are one of the main responsible of this crack. Being more active with trading is the only thing I am relying on to improve my portfolio, but it requires a lot of discipline and courage. What's your current strategy, guys?

I don't think the situation of market now is because of ICO. Investors may lost belief on ICO but they can choose top rank coins. I think this is the obvious thing that it must experience after the price bubble at the end of 2017

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Quote from: taratorly on November 25, 2018, 05:37:29 AM

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Quote from: tolgahanuzun on November 25, 2018, 05:27:37 AM

It seems to me that scam projects have hardly affected the price of BTC / Rather, it is connected with market manipulations. They began last year and will now reach the level where these manipulations with the BTC price began.

I do agree. Let’s look at the price before August 2017 and see if that’s going to be the threshold. if that happens Ethereum is at a dead end.

SCAM or not all coins are getting lost. We all lost right now. Everyone had a 3K rumor. And it happened. It is certain that there will be a wide-scale cleaning on the market.

Which is not a bad thing if you consider the pointless tokens that have been issued and exchanged so far.

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Quote from: hplaptop on November 25, 2018, 05:36:20 AM

Everything is possible. But maybe the crypto is just beginning, it may recede and start a new cycle

A fresh start is what this technology really needs, and we’re still in time to redirect the trend.

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Quote from: tolgahanuzun on November 25, 2018, 05:27:37 AM

It seems to me that scam projects have hardly affected the price of BTC / Rather, it is connected with market manipulations. They began last year and will now reach the level where these manipulations with the BTC price began.

I do agree. Let’s look at the price before August 2017 and see if that’s going to be the threshold. if that happens Ethereum is at a dead end.

SCAM or not all coins are getting lost. We all lost right now. Everyone had a 3K rumor. And it happened. It is certain that there will be a wide-scale cleaning on the market.

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Everything is possible. But maybe the crypto is just beginning, it may recede and start a new cycle

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Quote from: tolgahanuzun on November 25, 2018, 05:27:37 AM

It seems to me that scam projects have hardly affected the price of BTC / Rather, it is connected with market manipulations. They began last year and will now reach the level where these manipulations with the BTC price began.

I do agree. Let’s look at the price before August 2017 and see if that’s going to be the threshold. if that happens Ethereum is at a dead end.

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Quote from: BruceJu on November 25, 2018, 05:18:24 AM

I don't think tulips and cryptocurrencies are the same, no matter how they are profitable or used, but I don't deny that the encryption market is getting weaker.

Do you think that this is because of too many crypto in circulation or because the technology is old?

Look at Hyperledger, they issue no tokens but they have legit blockchain protocols for private purposes...

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It seems to me that scam projects have hardly affected the price of BTC / Rather, it is connected with market manipulations. They began last year and will now reach the level where these manipulations with the BTC price began.

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Quote from: Reid on November 25, 2018, 05:16:38 AM

Quote from: DKREBEL86 on November 25, 2018, 04:55:33 AM

I know that this may sound unpopular, but I feel that the current downtrend is not going to end soon. During last year, many vicissitudes impacted badly on liquidity and volumes and I think that the fraudulent ICOs are one of the main responsible of this crack. Being more active with trading is the only thing I am relying on to improve my portfolio, but it requires a lot of discipline and courage. What's your current strategy, guys?

That is your speculation and it could be right but also may go wrong.

I tend to HODL. It is not really because of love but it is because of my trust for the team behind it and the features of their token.
Bad things could happen anytime and same goes for every token and coins out there. Just got to hold tighter.

There may not be much of a strategy but what could you do with all this events. I bet even traders are having a hard time by now.

I’m not here to state what’s wrong or good, but holding implies very big risks. Trading means being proactive, and whether you want to contain losses or accumulate an asset that’s a solution you should really consider.

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Quote from: DKREBEL86 on November 25, 2018, 04:55:33 AM

I know that this may sound unpopular, but I feel that the current downtrend is not going to end soon. During last year, many vicissitudes impacted badly on liquidity and volumes and I think that the fraudulent ICOs are one of the main responsible of this crack. Being more active with trading is the only thing I am relying on to improve my portfolio, but it requires a lot of discipline and courage. What's your current strategy, guys?

Your question is legit. I bet on Reborn.

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Quote from: zemper on November 25, 2018, 05:14:44 AM

If you now look at the cost of BTC, then it seems to me that the best strategy was to sell BTC 18,000 and wait for the fall to this day. And again buy BTC.

To be honest I sold the majority of my BTC at around 13000 during January, but that’s because I entered the market back in 2014.

What about the guys who entered in January because they where thinking about a bull run again and then panic sold their position at 8000 and rebought at 6000(ish)? The majority of this guys didn’t know anything about blockchain and technology, they were just following suggestions of BTC “gurus” on Twitter.

We need to bet on education before speculation if we want to save this market. On the contrary, banks will win again and that’s bad after so many years.

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I don't think tulips and cryptocurrencies are the same, no matter how they are profitable or used, but I don't deny that the encryption market is getting weaker.

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Quote from: DKREBEL86 on November 25, 2018, 04:55:33 AM

I know that this may sound unpopular, but I feel that the current downtrend is not going to end soon. During last year, many vicissitudes impacted badly on liquidity and volumes and I think that the fraudulent ICOs are one of the main responsible of this crack. Being more active with trading is the only thing I am relying on to improve my portfolio, but it requires a lot of discipline and courage. What's your current strategy, guys?

That is your speculation and it could be right but also may go wrong.

I tend to HODL. It is not really because of love but it is because of my trust for the team behind it and the features of their token.
Bad things could happen anytime and same goes for every token and coins out there. Just got to hold tighter.

There may not be much of a strategy but what could you do with all this events. I bet even traders are having a hard time by now.

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If you now look at the cost of BTC, then it seems to me that the best strategy was to sell BTC 18,000 and wait for the fall to this day. And again buy BTC.

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Quote from: Kryten12 on November 25, 2018, 05:09:44 AM

As the year progressed I became more and more convinved that there would be no recovery during 2018, I just didn't see the market receeding this much. What I have done has been to utilise the last two dips in August and this week to average down on some of my holdings and wait things out. I can afford to lose what I have invested so I feel fairly comfortable with the gamble.

That’s the good approach. Nobody should have gambled if they couldn’t afford to loose. Unfortunately, many individuals have not the same skills that you have and have been hooked by fake promises. Remember Bitconnect? That’s nothing compared to the fraudolent ICOs altogether....

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As the year progressed I became more and more convinved that there would be no recovery during 2018, I just didn't see the market receeding this much. What I have done has been to utilise the last two dips in August and this week to average down on some of my holdings and wait things out. I can afford to lose what I have invested so I feel fairly comfortable with the gamble.

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Quote from: gelinshidong on November 25, 2018, 05:00:53 AM

Bitcoin is by no means a tulip, but many people will leave the cryptocurrency market. This is inevitable. At present, the cryptocurrency market is sluggish, but investors should not lose confidence, losing confidence is equal to losing the future.

Mine was a provocation, I don’t think that Bitcoin is a tulip. I wanted to point at the fact that the ICO trend polluted the market quite a lot.

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Bitcoin is by no means a tulip, but many people will leave the cryptocurrency market. This is inevitable. At present, the cryptocurrency market is sluggish, but investors should not lose confidence, losing confidence is equal to losing the future.

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I know that this may sound unpopular, but I feel that the current downtrend is not going to end soon. During last year, many vicissitudes impacted badly on liquidity and volumes and I think that the fraudulent ICOs are one of the main responsible of this crack. Being more active with trading is the only thing I am relying on to improve my portfolio, but it requires a lot of discipline and courage. What's your current strategy, guys?

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