Topic: ■■ Tviton.net - instant exchanger SCAMMED me ■■ (Read 350 times)

Tbh. Their alibi is hard to buy. They just need to look into their logs and cross check with what info OP has provided. How is it not technically possible?


Completely different scenario actually. As long as the coins is sitting in an address they control of (or whatever purse they have), there's a chance to recover it (in this case, manually credit is a more appropriate term) contrary to sent to a wrong address situation where the exchange has absolutely no control nor knows who owns it.

Tviton: the fault that the customer has lost the funds completely his as
not specifying memo in the cryptocurrency xlm is the same as to send
cryptocurrency to another address

Can someone please respond to cryptwerk's question?

Sorry, but this information cannot be disclosed by us. You made a mistake and lost funds, and it is logical that you sent without MEMO no one is to blame but you.
We will be able to provide this information to the law enforcement agencies if we receive an official request from them.

And the attack on the site that you did is illegal actions all logs are fixed and your threats are also fixed we will be forced to appeal to the law enforcement authorities on this matter.

Can i talk with the owner of the pool?

Because even if he can't identify the sender, i can give him proof i am the sender. He should have more money then he is supposed to have and I can identify me as the sender of that money. In my legislation this is called "enrichment without rightful cause" and is equipered to theft. My errors are irrilevant if he don't do anything possible to repair such errors and so achieving an unrightful profit.

I think it would be best for everybody if I can just have my money back

Yes, I acted really impulsively, that's not usual to me expecially in crypto, I suppose too much time out of crypto weakened my good paranoid stance.

Update: cryptwerk replied me that they will investigate, I asked them to keep me in touch but no news for now.

Yes, I acted really impulsively, that's not usual to me expecially in crypto, I suppose too much time out of crypto weakened my good paranoid stance.

Update: cryptwerk replied me that they will investigate, I asked them to keep me in touch but no news for now.

If I will not have my money back soon, I will try to have fun turning their site into oblivion. I just want to be sure I'm not damaging an honest small site.

Monday I will write to cryptwerk, this is the second step. More to come.

Dear cryptwerk,

I am contacting you because of an unfortunate event happened to me some times ago: i used your site (which seemed great to me) to find a fast exchanger for xlm lumens, i harshly clicked on the first link and I was heavily scammed.

I do not find you responsable for anything, I know the mistake was at my side. But I thought that if you are an honest business it's in in your interest to fastly delete known scammer sites from your lists, so I'm writing you this to let you know what happened.

You can read more details here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.58114861

I will give you any additional information if necessary

King regards

erre

I really hope I was wrong about you, sorry but the whole conversations and the request for such a video seems too strange to me. This is just a topic on a public forum, next steps are report on trust sites, asking to partners to remove your site and an official report to authorities of various countries (they should block your domain for lack of authorizations at least, and maybe the authorities of my country could investigate). But I will not take these steps now, only when I am absolutely sure I was scammed. I will also ask details about liquidity pools and study how lumens work before that, if you are acting honestly please understand I will not damage you further before studying.
As far as I understood how things works if you are a scammer you are taking time and try to exhaust me with more and more detailed and strange requests, so it's better to act fast and make my satoshis very hard to earn.

If you are not a scammer please forgive me, expecially in the crypto word safe is better than sorry.

erre

Some networks such as XLM, XRP or EOS require you to use a Memo or destination tag when sending funds to an exchange. The exchange usually use one or a few addresses for deposits from different accounts, so the only way of differentiating which money belongs to who is through memos.

Their request is not strange, as they are trying to prove if you are the real owner of the XLM sent to the address without the memo. Remember this is the blockchain and anyone can view and claim to have sent the coins. Give them a benefit of doubt and send the video and see the outcomes.

Also, I have a fear: do the video contain any sensible information? I don't think so, but they asking for it is suspect as best (I think they hoped I filmed a wallet login password)

[email protected]:
Hello, did you specify MEMO when you paid?

erre:
No, I didn't specify any memo

[email protected]:
Please send from the same purse that you paid the amount of 0.01268 XLM and indicate to this transfer MEMO: 839720

erre:
Done
Transaction 4ebed6e898c2ca6828d60dc91b5187b3ae66b6eeebaf56653d7baa5bdb80d7fe

[email protected]:
Wait please forwarded to the technical department, we apologize but it may take some time, the delay is due to the fact that you did not originally specified MEMO for the transfer, do not worry just have to wait a while until the transaction is processed manually.

erre:
Thank you very much, sorry but I don't use xlm a lot, and I lost the request for a MEMO. My fault.
I'll wait, I hope it will be resolved soon.

King regards

[email protected]:
Please provide a video recording of the withdrawal information
Supported video formats: avi, mp4, mov

The video recording requirment: 1 The video must contain the time amount, address, and hash of the withdrawal, 2. Sender needs to write the account information on a paper.

erre:
Sorry but this is a very strange request, and I'm not able to satisfy it as I didn't withdraw anything.

Please just give me back my xlm or btc, or I'll just assume you scammed me

[email protected]:
This request is not strange because you did not specify MEMO.
And in order to return, or to make an exchange, you need proof that it was you who sent the funds.

Memo is very important it is not just prescribed. And without it it is technically very problematic to enroll funds, and takes time.

[email protected]:
You are required to video which shows that you sent the data coins from your purse and on paper to write the address of the purse from which you sent and to which sent, there are no your personal information or anything like that.

[email protected]:
How soon will you send the video?

erre:
I didn't fully understand: you want a video of my screen showing the wallet transaction? What do you want me to write on paper?



[email protected]:
Yes that's right the video of your screen where you can see the transaction.

On paper write like this :

Payment
GCPYZYQFP5KYM6R5JVGT745OFPBX66R4YWR72OJSWW3F5VXE63GLGYID
To the address
GDP34WXZRCSHVUDQLGKJKOBMS5LOQPHCIADZU5POEF3IICZ7XNQJ65Y6
No tag 839720 was specified:

erre:
Ok, this is weird but I'll do it when i'll come back from work. You should already know who I am because I linked the payment to this email, and because of the 0.01268 I sent. But i'll do it as a last attempt to recover my funds. After that I'll open scam accusations everywhere, because I suspect you're just taking time. For now, I just attach a screenshot, I hope it will suffice, but this evening (roughly 12h from now) I'll made a video too if necessary.

Regards

Erre

[email protected]:
Yes, please send the video when you get home from work.

From our side there are no actions that can be called strange you just have not encountered MEMO and do not understand that it is very important when sending funds, and how do these cryptocurrencies work with MEMO.

[email protected]:
Hello, for you did not fill in the correct tag when deposited, it cannot be credited. You need to record a video then send it to us.The video needs to contain the following: 1、The withdraw information: Start recording video from login account. The video must contain at least two page switches, the time, amount, address, and hash of the withdrawal can be clearly seen. (If the hash can not be seen , please contact the platform / wallet customer service to ask for the hash, and record the entire conversation in the video). 2、Sender needs to write the account information (UID: 264420958) on a paper, sign your own name and date , all these information need to be shown in the video.

Note. All required information must be displayed in a video.

[email protected]:
Let us explain to you why this should be done:
For the instant exchange of cryptocurrencies at the best rate we use pools of liquidity and this purse to which you have made the transfer is a purse pool of liquidity it is not only our purse but the purse of the pool and that the funds were credited it is necessary to specify MEMO, since you have not specified MEMO we need to meet all the conditions of the liquidity pool that would be credited and we were able to make you an exchange or refund.

erre:
This sounds like asking for a photo with a shoe on my head, but I will do it.
It isn't clear what you mean for "page switches" and "account information", can you please specify? Also, do I need to write my real name or nickname? And how are you going to check if it's my true name?
What I have to write exactly on paper? I got 2 messages asking for different things, and I obviously don't have any account on your site.

[email protected]:
Switching means, for example, first you open some section of the wallet, such as send, and then open the history section and open the transaction on 2000 XLM, which would be visible on the video transition from one section to another.

You can give us any name you want, it doesn't matter.
Date when you will shoot the video in numbers in the format 04.10.2021 for example

John
(UID: 264420958)
04.10.2022

erre:
Here is the video:

https://streamable.com/ttnyqu

I hope this will be resolved soon


[email protected]:
Please upload a video to this site and send me a link to the uploaded video.
https://dropmefiles.com/

erre:

Dropmefiles.com/q2nmA

[email protected]:
Thank you, video received and sent to the liquidity pool.
Your exchange will be processed within 1-3 business days.