Topic: Two Hero accounts violate the rules of the signature company Duelbits? (Read 692 times)

I saw some reasonable arguments on both sides (including facts).

I suggest letting go of this case (and not even because I think these are two different users).

Over the past six months, we have all felt how the number of active campaigns is rapidly decreasing, and without lying we can say that a significant part of users are still active only because of campaigns. However, I feel like more and more people are leaving the forum... and I wouldn’t want this case to become a reason for two more to leave the forum.

I see how persistent you are and by rating I see the respect of the forum for you. But answer me, do you really think that because of this I deserve to be banned now? After all these years and evidence that I refused to cheat??

You are talking about the opinion of the moderators, not about your opinion. I respect the rules of the forum, and I agree that they should be, but a few weeks ago I was insulted from different accounts and nothing happened. And the forum is full of it. But I don't consider my situation fair for the ban.

So, that’s what needed to be proven. You had an account that is currently blocked. And you honestly admitted it in this post, which is an honor. But I don’t think that anyone will ban you; the forum has long ceased to live by the rules that were once invented.

So now you think it's FAIR that you need to block my account because once upon a time I had another account. Who was banned not for cheating or for insults, but if I remember correctly, for short sentences in a topic - sheer nonsense that I made out of ignorance. At the same time, I have not abused and am not abusing this other account now. He's been banned for a long time. And above, I provided all the evidence that I am playing fair with the summonerrk account.
At that, they told me to sleep peacefully. Or it was only for bubilas?
Ah, I see that you told it's only for him.

I see link.
which rule?

This is what we are talking about. This is also your account, and at this time you are violating the ban rule.
You wanted links on transactions, I provided the link.

This account about you write here with a "fresh activity" of 2018 is has been banned for a long time ago.

I told you again - I don't have a alt for now.

Well, as you can see, the manager does not agree, so you can sleep peacefully.


However, summonerrk, are you saying that you do not have alternative accounts? But again, strange behavior: Twitter, which says that it is yours, but in this case it is written by a blocked forum member, to whom you, by coincidence, sent only a little, twenty merits, for a very useful post.
https://ninjastic.space/search?content=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2FKorostik_unstop


https://ninjastic.space/search?content=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fruslan.korostik


https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?to=Vadik89&from=summonerrk
https://etherscan.io/address/0xA4474B3F6816Bfd1ae6bfcb4ae9FC39467996C72
and here is the general transaction

summonerrk, are you evading the ban?

Dear @lovesmayfamilis, so ?

If you look my artworks, you will see that I can paint or draw in all styles.
Btw

That is not an excuse mate, because if someone with a alt can cheat in a signature campaign, what makes you think he/she can not cheat in a art contest? Because inasmuch as you claim they might be caught due to art style similarities, I can tell you that there are experience artists who could come up with art works of diverse different art style or pattern, so as to maximize profit due to the huge budget invested in these art contest. So I still stand on my word "summonerrk" is likely saying the truth, until proven beyond this. Thank you

Do you think everyone who knows Russian lives in Russia? That's not so.
For example: our forum is full of Ukrainian citizens who speak Russian, but this is another country.

Please stop blaming me for the Bons. I often treated my applications for raffles and small signature campaigns with an irresponsible attitude, as I said. For example, I submitted an application without even making sure that the competition was still being held:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.62187658

How's exactly your country didn't allow to register at a casino and you ask @bubilas to create an account for you, when you both live in Russia? if you can't, it means @bubilas also face a same result. According to bons.io terms, they didn't forbid Russia too.

I have to disagree, not participating in art contest as the reason they're not alt accounts is really weak.

Each person has different style, it's same to art, if someone want to cheat in art contest, it will raise higher chance to get caught because people might notice if the art style of those two accounts are same.

Looking at this case from a standard point of view, I will say that inasmuch "Bubilas" have not been seen applying in any of the ROOBET art contest, just like it's been claimed they both applied in the same campaign, I think that is enough proof to justify that these two accounts are not alt, as this happens to be a mere coincidence of account-connection, because if truly they were alts, there would have been a high chance we seeing both accounts applying on the same category in any of the ROOBET monthly art contest. Hence, I believe they are not alt, and this case should be left to die a natural death. Thank you

Opinion of another one alt newbie...

I believe they are different users, I'll keep them in the campaign for now.

bubilas and summonerrk you guys should let us know when you finish blabbing, trying to defend what is not defendable, your tags will following ASAP, how can old forum members violate campaign rules, this shows you have no respect for the manager and also how bad your reputation can be and you can not be trusted.

I don't think this is the first time on the forum when someone turns to another for registration because of the ban in the country or the inability to access the site. Nevertheless, I see no reason why we violated anything. There, people withdraw money to one address. And we have a story about copied applications and a bunch of onlookers of accusers who passed by. Nevertheless, I'll be damned if, after all that has been said, we'll also be guilty.

Topic starter, if you have arranged all this, could you not immediately leave the forum and stay and listen to everyone? Because of this story, I can't imagine how I'm going to sleep now.

It is not allowed to register at a casino in my country, and I asked @bubilas to create a BubinaGoogl account so that I could participate - I asked for all accounts related to registration in gambling to register by contacting the @bubilas. It's not forbidden.
About a Bons applications: when I changed my mind and he used it himself. There is no crime on our forum about it. And as you can see, I deleted my application and do not participate in that campaing. That's all.
I think this is not prohibited on our forum.

But I repeat once again, this is not a story about two accounts of one person.
We are two different people. I value my account, you can imagine how important it is to me and my first response. If I am excluded from drawing competitions because of all these unsuccessful suspicions, it will be the end of the world for me.

Yeah, this is an alt account and I'm admitting it. At least I'm being honest. Hopefully, you will too. Nothings wrong using alt account unless you're using it to take advantage.

@bubilas look for where I could get this application from. And I will too. And please don't copy anything of mine anymore.


Words of a newbie, which looks like a confirmed alt.

Have you ever thought that someone else's application can just be opened in an old separate window and from there it can be copied more than once? Yes, I'm lazy, but I only have one account, no matter how you try to prove something to me here.

Why is the wrong bitcoin address being copied and pasted repeatedly? According to OP's report, you guys used the same address three times. Once is enough, twice is too much, thrice is what — confirmed alt?

Я нe пoнимaю вы pyccкий или нeт, пoэтoмy oтвeчy, и cкoпиpyю пepeвoд.

Пoчeмy @summonerrk этo мoй aккayнт? Oн дaвнo нa фopyмe. Я пpишeл пocлe пepepывa, a @summonerk был тyт дaвнo дo мeня, я имeю ввидy eгo aктивнocть. Baм нe кaжeтcя чтo для мyльтиaккayнтoв люди coздaют нoвыe aккayнты? A y нac дaвниe дaты peгиcтpaции. Ho oни oтличaютcя в тpи гoдa!
Я вижy, чтo мы в шaблoнe yкaзывaли aдpeca дpyг дpyгa, нo ecли вce кoпиpyют зaявки дpyг дpyгa, и из этoгo нeльзя дeлaть вывoды, a yж тeм бoлee из мepитa. Пoчeмy тoгдa для вac нe являeтcя дoкaзaтeльcтвoм мyльтиaккayнтoв тo, чтo в aнглийcкиx вeткax peбятa пepeкидывaют дpyг дpyгa мepит дecяткaми? Oпять жe: вышe oн yкaзaл, чтo кaкoй-тo пapeнь тaкжe кoпиpoвaл eгo зaявкy, и я нe yдивлeн этoмy.
Taкжe я нe пoнимaю - зaчeм cpaзy звaть мeнeджepa, пoчeмy тaкoe пoднимaeтcя нa вceoбщий paзбop. Bы бpocaeтe тeнь и нa мeня и нa @summonerrk. Пpи этoм мeня cpaзy нaчинaют oбвинять дpyгиe пoльзoвaтeли в вaшeм тoпикe, нo нe xoтeли бы oни cнaчaлa выcлyшaть вcex?
Я чecтнo нe пoнимaю кaк мoжнo вecти cpaзy двa aккayнтa, вeдь этo нyжнo ycпeвaть cтoль мнoгoe.
@lovesmayfamilis Я вижy вaш cтaтyc a фopyмe, чтo вы мoжeтe мнe пoкpacить aккayнт, или кaк-тo тaк, и пoнимaю вce apгyмeнты, нo нeyжeли вы никoгдa нe oшибaлиcь? Я нaдeюcь тo xopoшo peшитcя.

Why is @summonerrk my account? He's been on the forum for a long time. I came after a break, and @summonerk was here a long time before me, I mean his activity. Don't you think people create new accounts for multi-accounts? And we have long-standing registration dates. But they're three years apart!
I can see that we gave each other's addresses in the template, but if everyone copies each other's applications, and you can't draw conclusions from that, let alone from merit. Why then is it not proof of multi-accounts for you that in English threads guys are flipping each other merit dozens? Again: above he pointed out that some guy also copied his application, and I'm not surprised by that.
Also, I don't understand - why call the manager right away, why such a thing is brought up for public scrutiny. You are throwing shade at both me and @summonerrk. At the same time I immediately start to accuse other users in your topic, but wouldn't they like to hear everyone out first?
I honestly don't understand how you can maintain two accounts at once, because you have to keep up with so much.
@lovesmayfamilis I see your status on the forum that you can paint my account, or whatever, and I understand all the arguments, but haven't you ever been wrong? I hope this is resolved well.

Well, it isn’t a crime to copy other people application. Most of us do it when applying on a campaign or contest. But only a small part of them submit the post without replacing the original info. But how did you know the Bons.io casino username of 'bubilas' before it was posted by anyone here in the forum? You were the first person to mention that name. You can't let it go by saying a copy paste mistake.

Hi guys!

I've read all the information.
Of course, thanks for this analysis, but all this is wrong, and I'll explain why.


It is normal to copy other applications and then change them to suit your own, especially in the contests of price or in gambling/betting.

For example:
https://ninjastic.space/post/62370395
This guy too copy my applicaton

I periodically copied the applies of different users, sometimes it was bubilas, after copying his application, I saved it and sometimes inserted it as a template, and then changed it.
Sometimes I wrote an application, assembling a template even from three different applications, but do you always write an application yourself and from scratch?
I don't think so.
Yes, because of this, Bitcoin addresses in sports betting applications may match. If I forgot to change it to my own somewhere, this is not a violation, but this is my rush. This does not mean that I am somehow connected with this account.
I see that the applications are close in time, but this happens if in our locale someone in the "Contests" or "Signature Campaigns" branch told everyone that there is a new contest and everyone received this notification. I remember that many guys from our locale immediately applied for me. Or before me.
 Everything is different with him, as you have noticed - both dates and countries. And it is not forbidden to send merit to each other, because we are from the same locale and of course among the whole mix of merritt, and I think it is wrong to single out only him and me and draw conclusions from all this. I have been on the forum for a long time and physically could not have a second account in any way.
I barely have time to do Roobet Art contests - Hhampuz know me as a usual participant.
How can you explain that there I always post applications in this contest only from myself?
 I am an artist and can easily draw many paintings. But despite the huge prize money (one time I have won 2000$),

For example:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.62093374
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.62373402
And many others

 I always post only my work and only from my account. Do you think other users haven’t written to me asking me to draw something for them and get a percentage of the profit? But I don't do that. And you are trying to prove to me that I am cheating with signatures campaigns where the payment is small.

I see that he copied my application too, submitting his own in the Campaign Signature.
I think he just copied my application, that's all.
@bubilas, please respond immediately as well!

I was going to answer him too. It took me two seconds to see that they both wear the signature, and just in case they wear it without being accepted yet, it doesn't take long to go to the spreadsheet and see that both of them are on the Hero member category.

It looks like the @bubilas account has just been accepted into the duelbits campaign. while the @summonerrk account is an old campaign participant.
both accounts are listed on the spreadsheet.

Were they accepted into the campaign? If they applied only and weren't accepted, technically they didn't break the rules. If they applied, were both accepted, and stayed in the campaign and got paid, then they broke the rules if the campaign states no alts.

I personally don't like a person applying with more than 1 of their accounts as I feel it's sorta cheating, but technically it isn't. Users think they have a better chance of 1 of their accounts getting into a campaign.

Today I saw the post in which the account asked to return to the forum. But I had suspicions that maybe he had some alternatives as to why he still couldn’t return to the forum. But something else attracted me. I found a match with the address.
https://ninjastic.space/addresses?address=bc1qfdvxsa7edrl6fy9xhchnuef3v7e5c5jpsfg3te

However, these two accounts belong to people from different
countries.

Digging deeper, I saw that the coincidences went even further. So, the two Hero accounts apparently violate the rules of the signature company Duelbits. I would like the manager's attention @Hhampuz


1. summonerrk
2. bubilas

Proof:

https://ninjastic.space/search?content=Bubinagoogl
summonerrk wrote his nickname Bubinagoogl before bubilas, but later deleted his post.

https://ninjastic.space/post/63956495


https://ninjastic.space/post/63955317
post deleted

https://ninjastic.space/addresses?address=bc1qnlqcn475e20x85x2em2nzrzcepgl9r9q53t02h


https://ninjastic.space/addresses?address=bc1qz502c6c5hm3nf36rhxrcjgvyysjj076akekleg


Related Addresses:

Miscellaneous:

[CFNP] Duelbits.com | Signature Campaign ~ Full Members+ | Up to $70/Week
manager @Hhampuz

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1SxdEVD6MNn6I_SkSzldLFy5Ssx7IUBO_cpxtWKXj_Jk/edit#gid=72441003



https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?from=summonerrk&to=bubilas


https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?from=bubilas&to=summonerrk