Ubuntu on USB - Doesn't Save Anything?

riX

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Quote from: WilderedB on April 23, 2013, 08:53:15 AM

Well i just tried installing Liberte onto a USB drive.

Downloaded it, copied it over to an empty 8GB drive.

I right-clicked setup.bat and told it to run as admin...

An old-fashioned DOS window opened up, where it promptly informed me that the setup.bat file I just ran could not be found.

'Press any key to continue'.

I pressed a key, the window disappeared.

The hell was that?

Huh

You only need to run the batch file if you don't have a bios capable of (U)EFI booting.. if you have a new laptop it will probably work by just copying the files to the stick.

bonker

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Quote from: WilderedB on April 23, 2013, 09:39:01 AM

LOL, I mean what kind of user experience is that?

Started with the 'Tails' thing, then noticed that's even bigger at 850 MB.. Also noticed its proud of the fact it stores nothing except in RAM, which is where I am now anyway.

At this point I give up on Linux.

Thank you for your help anyway.

A.

lol - take a few days off and try again. That's the way I do it Cheesy

WilderedB

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LOL, I mean what kind of user experience is that?

Started with the 'Tails' thing, then noticed that's even bigger at 850 MB.. Also noticed its proud of the fact it stores nothing except in RAM, which is where I am now anyway.

At this point I give up on Linux.

Thank you for your help anyway.

A.

bonker

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Quote from: WilderedB on April 23, 2013, 08:53:15 AM

Well i just tried installing Liberte onto a USB drive.

Downloaded it, copied it over to an empty 8GB drive.

I right-clicked setup.bat and told it to run as admin...

An old-fashioned DOS window opened up, where it promptly informed me that the setup.bat file I just ran could not be found.

'Press any key to continue'.

I pressed a key, the window disappeared.

The hell was that?

Huh

Xubuntu - lighter version of Ubuntu

WilderedB

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Well i just tried installing Liberte onto a USB drive.

Downloaded it, copied it over to an empty 8GB drive.

I right-clicked setup.bat and told it to run as admin...

An old-fashioned DOS window opened up, where it promptly informed me that the setup.bat file I just ran could not be found.

'Press any key to continue'.

I pressed a key, the window disappeared.

The hell was that?

Huh

bonker

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Quote from: WilderedB on April 23, 2013, 08:34:11 AM

I tried installing from one USB to another, which doesn't entirely make sense to me but hey..

However after seeming to work, and taking ages, I realised the 700 MB file on the first drive was actually downloading the entire 700 MB file again. Why?

Worse, after finally getting to only 6 minutes estimated left, it then slowed to a crawl and was saying it would take anotherr 16 hours. At that point I waited awhile and then just gave up and hit 'cancel'.

RiX, Both Tails and Liberte seems even less user-friendly than Ubuntu but I'll try the Liberte thing, thanks.

Has to be said though, this is pretty ridiculous. Happily I work from home and have no clients right now but I really honestly don't know ANYONE among my friends or family who would even begin to jump through such hoops, in search of some level of basic security. And that's before trying to explain the concept of a virtual currency in the first place...

All this and I've never even owned a bitcoin.. *fumps head on desk*

Liberte has almost downloaded, will report back...

A.

Installing to a conventional hard drive is going to be faster than a USB install, those are rubbish really. I'm running two rigs from USB sticks only because I ran out of power cables to hook up a hard disk Yes it is slow.. *slow* but its a cheap option that works for a rig.

Its true though, Linux is not as easy as Windows for the uninitiated, but the rewards are there if you persist. its a bit like eating a macdonalds and cooking yourself a a decent meal, rewards == effort invested. For mining I've got 2.1Ghash for tiny cost.

WilderedB

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I tried installing from one USB to another, which doesn't entirely make sense to me but hey..

However after seeming to work, and taking ages, I realised the 700 MB file on the first drive was actually downloading the entire 700 MB file again. Why?

Worse, after finally getting to only 6 minutes estimated left, it then slowed to a crawl and was saying it would take anotherr 16 hours. At that point I waited awhile and then just gave up and hit 'cancel'.

RiX, Both Tails and Liberte seems even less user-friendly than Ubuntu but I'll try the Liberte thing, thanks.

Has to be said though, this is pretty ridiculous. Happily I work from home and have no clients right now but I really honestly don't know ANYONE among my friends or family who would even begin to jump through such hoops, in search of some level of basic security. And that's before trying to explain the concept of a virtual currency in the first place...

All this and I've never even owned a bitcoin.. *fumps head on desk*

Liberte has almost downloaded, will report back...

A.

riX

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I like both Tails and Liberté Linux, the latter is my current choice since it supports UEFI booting.

bonker

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Live versions run for a ramdisk... whatever you save looks like it goes onto the USB but is actually stored only in ram. When you turn off all the ram data is lost... Just install Ubuntu on a second USB and you can use that as a normal system.

WilderedB

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That sounds dodgy as heck, as I have images of clicking "OK" and then seeing it go straight ahead and re-partitioning my main Win7 C drive.. Shocked

I also noticed it fails to load the Ubuntu version of 'Office', though Firefox and other programs seemed to open. Dodgy copy or do those not run from the "live" version?

Could it save files onto another USB drive?

I don't even know if what I'm trying to do would work anyway - I'm trying to install Multibit and save a copy of bitaddress.org, so I can create private keys offline and have an offline wallet thingy.

When I tried installing Multibit it threw up errors anyway..

Ah, I dunno. Seems a lot of faffing around.

Can't I just encrypt the wallet and keys on Windows?

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Quote from: WilderedB on April 23, 2013, 03:01:55 AM

I've tried following the notion of a secure offline wallet using Ubuntu on a USB drive.

However anything I save on Ubuntu simply isn't there next time I boot with it. So I presume the "run without installing" is actually not really running as such, just some sort of demo or something?

Is there any other OS that does actually work on a USB drive?

Ta

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A live USB prolly wont save work. You want to install from a live USB onto another USB. That's what I did. It works just like a full normal installation then.

As mentioned, USBs have a limited lifespan and a swap partition may get hammered if you are a heavy user without much system ram

Dougie

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You are not special.

How did you install it on your USB? There are different methods that can either have persistence by default or you'll need to do something extra to get persistence.

Also remember that if you're only saving the wallet on your USB OS then your wallet could be at risk. USB drives are prone to failing. Ask student x about his thesis!

WilderedB

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I've tried following the notion of a secure offline wallet using Ubuntu on a USB drive.

However anything I save on Ubuntu simply isn't there next time I boot with it. So I presume the "run without installing" is actually not really running as such, just some sort of demo or something?

Is there any other OS that does actually work on a USB drive?

Ta

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