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December 09, 2023, 02:39:30 AM
Even though Manchester United beat Bayern Munich,  Manchester United will need Copenhagen and Galatasaray match to end in a draw before they can be able to qualify for the next round of the Uefa Champions League. Copenhagen and Galatasaray will likely not end in a draw match because both teams want to qualify for the next round of the Uefa Champions League.
As long as Copenhagen and Galatasaray still have a chance to qualify for the next round, I think both teams will try to achieve it with the abilities they have so the possibility of a draw is very slim although it is also not impossible for that result. However, in general, every team that still has the opportunity to qualify for the next round by winning the match, they will definitely try to win and will not care about the fatigue they have to spend through the match.

yes, Copenhagen and Galatasaray's chances are still the same. they play with their full performance. This could be another draw. and that would benefit Copenhagen.
A 2-2 draw in the first leg was also pretty good, but probably won't be repeated. Galatasaray got two equalizers when one of Copenhagen's players received a red card. and the 2nd leg Copenhagen will play at home. so they can be more favored. maybe Copenhagen will accompany Munich to the next round.
I agree with you that Copenhagen has a bigger chance of qualifying for the next round with Bayern munich even though Galatasaray looks very strong but there will be no draw because Copenhagen playing at home giving a bigger chance of winning because it has full support from the fans and Galatasaray as Guests will definitely feel that they are not focused on away games because fans are very busy.
Next, Manchester United seems to have to say goodbye to the Champions League because it very doubtful that Bayern Munich can lose while Munich very good spirits the Champions League.
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December 09, 2023, 02:39:22 AM
Even though Manchester United beat Bayern Munich,  Manchester United will need Copenhagen and Galatasaray match to end in a draw before they can be able to qualify for the next round of the Uefa Champions League. Copenhagen and Galatasaray will likely not end in a draw match because both teams want to qualify for the next round of the Uefa Champions League.
As long as Copenhagen and Galatasaray still have a chance to qualify for the next round, I think both teams will try to achieve it with the abilities they have so the possibility of a draw is very slim although it is also not impossible for that result. However, in general, every team that still has the opportunity to qualify for the next round by winning the match, they will definitely try to win and will not care about the fatigue they have to spend through the match.
The scenario in this group is very difficult for the 3 teams that are still struggling, and the difficulty is greater for Manchestre United. Not only do they have to win against Bayern Munich, they also have to ensure that the match between Galatasaray vs Copenhagen will end with a draw. As for the other two teams (Galatasaray and Copenhagen) their fate is in their own hands. It is undeniable that if Manchester United can finally qualify then it is the great luck they get in this group stage. But it is very difficult, when seeing them have to beat Bayern Munich alone it has become very difficult for them.
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December 09, 2023, 02:36:41 AM
Even though Manchester United beat Bayern Munich,  Manchester United will need Copenhagen and Galatasaray match to end in a draw before they can be able to qualify for the next round of the Uefa Champions League. Copenhagen and Galatasaray will likely not end in a draw match because both teams want to qualify for the next round of the Uefa Champions League.
As long as Copenhagen and Galatasaray still have a chance to qualify for the next round, I think both teams will try to achieve it with the abilities they have so the possibility of a draw is very slim although it is also not impossible for that result. However, in general, every team that still has the opportunity to qualify for the next round by winning the match, they will definitely try to win and will not care about the fatigue they have to spend through the match.
Both of them have the same opportunity and in the final match it will be determined which of them is worthy and makes it through to play in the round of 16.
There has been lot of discussion about the two teams here and indeed in terms of opportunities and playing quality, both are almost equal, but still one of them will be eliminated and there is only one name that will accompany Bayern Munich from Group A to advance to the last 16.

In your opinion, if you look at the strength and performance so far in the group phase, who will win the match and have the right to qualify for the last 16?
I sure you will make one of them your favorite in the final match and of course you can make it your main option to bet on.

According to the analysis and also just the predictions I made, Galatasaray will win this match and Galatasaray will be Bayern Munich friend from Group A to compete in the last 16.
Moreover, in the last few matches, Galatasaray has performed well and has had quite significant changes.
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December 09, 2023, 01:36:16 AM
Even though Manchester United beat Bayern Munich,  Manchester United will need Copenhagen and Galatasaray match to end in a draw before they can be able to qualify for the next round of the Uefa Champions League. Copenhagen and Galatasaray will likely not end in a draw match because both teams want to qualify for the next round of the Uefa Champions League.
Manchester United have two mountains to climb in the final day. They will have to beat Bayern Munich to successfully climb up a first moutain and they will also have to wait for bad result from Copenhagen vs Galatasaray that is a second mountain. The first one is tough to achieve already and the second one is out of their control. Manchester United will need very big support from luckiness to be qualified for round of 16.

As long as Copenhagen and Galatasaray still have a chance to qualify for the next round, I think both teams will try to achieve it with the abilities they have so the possibility of a draw is very slim although it is also not impossible for that result. However, in general, every team that still has the opportunity to qualify for the next round by winning the match, they will definitely try to win and will not care about the fatigue they have to spend through the match.
Between Copenhagen and Galatasaray, I choose Galatasaray because they have more star players and more experienced than Copenhagen. Those players can help them to complete this mission under pressure while players in Copenhagen don't have enough experience with massive pressure and they might fail at the final day. They will have to keep eyes on Manchester United too so I believe both Copenhagen and Galatasaray will look for three points from the match.

Even if Manchester united is being eliminated from the Champions league I don't think they can still focus in the Premier league games I can't still see where their concentrations falls on. If Manchester United is eliminated to Europa league I don't think if they will be able to win the league because Europa league is also competitive league too
Premier League will be one of their main focuses and if they fail in Champions League, Premier League will be their biggest concern as playing well in Premier League, they will be qualified to join Champions League next season. It will be helpful for them in player transfer too as if they won't be qualified for Champions League, they will have more difficulty to convince star players to join their club. Europa League is competitive and Manchester United are not strong enough to win it.
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December 09, 2023, 01:30:24 AM
Yes, it would probably be a real shame for Manchester United to finish last in the group, but I don't remember them achieving any success in European Cups recently. Of course it would be nice for them to finish third to stay in the Europa League, but the chances are really slim.
I am not even sure if United would be happier with a complete elimination from Europe or with elimination down to the Europa League, if they drop out of Europe completely, it gives them a better chance to focus on the EPL and try to finish in the top four. But if you think about it, winning the Europa League gives an automatic qualification into the CL for the next season and a trophy as well, thus since United are not going to compete for the EPL title, they might be happier with a place in the Europa League and try to win it.
Even if Manchester united is being eliminated from the Champions league I don't think they can still focus in the Premier league games I can't still see where their concentrations falls on. If Manchester United is eliminated to Europa league I don't think if they will be able to win the league because Europa league is also competitive league too that some teams have dedicated their interest to win the league,  I doubt if Manchester united will succeed in having the Europa title.  Elimination from champions league,  their is no possibility they can make it to top four in premier league,  the league is so tough this season.
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December 09, 2023, 01:00:33 AM
Even though Manchester United beat Bayern Munich,  Manchester United will need Copenhagen and Galatasaray match to end in a draw before they can be able to qualify for the next round of the Uefa Champions League. Copenhagen and Galatasaray will likely not end in a draw match because both teams want to qualify for the next round of the Uefa Champions League.
As long as Copenhagen and Galatasaray still have a chance to qualify for the next round, I think both teams will try to achieve it with the abilities they have so the possibility of a draw is very slim although it is also not impossible for that result. However, in general, every team that still has the opportunity to qualify for the next round by winning the match, they will definitely try to win and will not care about the fatigue they have to spend through the match.

yes, Copenhagen and Galatasaray's chances are still the same. they play with their full performance. This could be another draw. and that would benefit Copenhagen.
A 2-2 draw in the first leg was also pretty good, but probably won't be repeated. Galatasaray got two equalizers when one of Copenhagen's players received a red card. and the 2nd leg Copenhagen will play at home. so they can be more favored. maybe Copenhagen will accompany Munich to the next round.
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December 09, 2023, 01:00:06 AM
Yes, it would probably be a real shame for Manchester United to finish last in the group, but I don't remember them achieving any success in European Cups recently. Of course it would be nice for them to finish third to stay in the Europa League, but the chances are really slim.
If Manchester United headcoach, Erik Ten Hag is innovative and the players become productive in matches, the exact same energy and power level they exerted against Chelsea, if they used it against Bayern Munich, it will be tough and entertaining to watch because I don't settle for lesser games. First of all, Manchester United group is very very competitive and there's no club to be underrated, everyone finds what's good. Manchester united have a major aim in UCL and there hope is to manage and win Bayern Munich and qualify for the Europa League spot.
At least manchester united has performed better compared to the chelsea. As you can see that ten hag will put all of focus onto regenerating its players. Im not saying ten hag was bad but at least he has done something good for united by put garnacho as starting line up instead of rashford.
Manchester united was not lucky enough to be at the weak group compared to the another one. Another club like barcelona was in the easiest group. Ten hag may still have another chance in upcoming season if his team will unable to pass the group stage.

Glad to see that manchester united was slowly but surely climing up again. Extraordinary performances from maguire and tominay have been helping the club a lot in winning any of important matches.
I hope that everything will be going fine and MU will be going to the UCL again in the next season. There must be some changes to happen in the club.
The defenders and midfielders are not so effective. Selling some players then replace them with new players are the best decision.
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December 09, 2023, 12:41:26 AM
Even though Manchester United beat Bayern Munich,  Manchester United will need Copenhagen and Galatasaray match to end in a draw before they can be able to qualify for the next round of the Uefa Champions League. Copenhagen and Galatasaray will likely not end in a draw match because both teams want to qualify for the next round of the Uefa Champions League.
As long as Copenhagen and Galatasaray still have a chance to qualify for the next round, I think both teams will try to achieve it with the abilities they have so the possibility of a draw is very slim although it is also not impossible for that result. However, in general, every team that still has the opportunity to qualify for the next round by winning the match, they will definitely try to win and will not care about the fatigue they have to spend through the match.
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December 09, 2023, 12:26:38 AM
Yes, it would probably be a real shame for Manchester United to finish last in the group, but I don't remember them achieving any success in European Cups recently. Of course it would be nice for them to finish third to stay in the Europa League, but the chances are really slim.
I am not even sure if United would be happier with a complete elimination from Europe or with elimination down to the Europa League, if they drop out of Europe completely, it gives them a better chance to focus on the EPL and try to finish in the top four. But if you think about it, winning the Europa League gives an automatic qualification into the CL for the next season and a trophy as well, thus since United are not going to compete for the EPL title, they might be happier with a place in the Europa League and try to win it.
Manchester United's performance in the beginning, we thought that Manchester United might not even qualify for the Europa League next season, but the current performance is encouraging. The way Manchester United is currently performing, United fans hope that they will be able to play in the Champions League next season. Although playing in the Champions League is a difficult equation for Manchester United, if Manchester United can perform well, it will not be impossible for Manchester United to qualify for the Champions League next season. We can consider Manchester United's current performance as a consistent performance, but they need to maintain this consistent performance until the end of the season to qualify for the Champions League.
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December 09, 2023, 12:08:56 AM
Yes, it would probably be a real shame for Manchester United to finish last in the group, but I don't remember them achieving any success in European Cups recently. Of course it would be nice for them to finish third to stay in the Europa League, but the chances are really slim.
If Manchester United headcoach, Erik Ten Hag is innovative and the players become productive in matches, the exact same energy and power level they exerted against Chelsea, if they used it against Bayern Munich, it will be tough and entertaining to watch because I don't settle for lesser games. First of all, Manchester United group is very very competitive and there's no club to be underrated, everyone finds what's good. Manchester united have a major aim in UCL and there hope is to manage and win Bayern Munich and qualify for the Europa League spot.
Indeed, I admit Group A is filled with strongest rivals, initially Galatasaray and Copenhagen were underestimated because it was impossible to beat Manchester United and Bayern Munich and it was only certain that these two clubs would be able to qualify, but in reality Manchester United had difficulty facing the two clubs that had been underestimated. and is currently at the bottom of the ranking with the fewest points and only Bayern Munich is able to prove that it is worthy of being called the stronger rival in the group with its achievements so far.

Manchester United will be under great pressure this time on Matchday 6 of the UCL and will have to face the strongest rival in the group, even though Manchester United is playing at homed, this has not yet proven that Manchester United can steal 3 point from Bayern Munich, the results of Copenhagen and Galatasaray are also not yet proven known but what is certain is that the three club will fight hard to get the desired results so they can qualify for the next rounds.
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December 08, 2023, 10:35:21 PM
Yes, it is quite difficult for Man United. If they qualify for the next round, they get a miracle. Sure, Bayern Munich won't let Man United to get 3 points for free. Bayern Munich must try to win the match for their pride, they don't want to be defeated by Man United. So, no guarantee for Man United to win the match in Old Trafford.
as others have said here, if Man United hopes to win against Bayern Munich and hopes for Copenhagen vs Galatasaray to draw it is something that is very impossible. logically, Man United still has a chance to qualify if what I said comes true, but luck like that will only happen 1% of the time, while Bayern Munich's reputation is very big, it will not be possible to let go of defeat for MU and on the one hand, Galatasaray and Copenhagen, these two teams also want to be able to qualify for the next round, especially Galatasaray who have a much better performance than MU.

I say this because its about facts and other people here will also say the same thing regarding Man United currently who really dont have any hope except losing or drawing.
Even though Manchester United beat Bayern Munich,  Manchester United will need Copenhagen and Galatasaray match to end in a draw before they can be able to qualify for the next round of the Uefa Champions League. Copenhagen and Galatasaray will likely not end in a draw match because both teams want to qualify for the next round of the Uefa Champions League.
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December 08, 2023, 09:35:19 PM
Yes, it is quite difficult for Man United. If they qualify for the next round, they get a miracle. Sure, Bayern Munich won't let Man United to get 3 points for free. Bayern Munich must try to win the match for their pride, they don't want to be defeated by Man United. So, no guarantee for Man United to win the match in Old Trafford.
as others have said here, if Man United hopes to win against Bayern Munich and hopes for Copenhagen vs Galatasaray to draw it is something that is very impossible. logically, Man United still has a chance to qualify if what I said comes true, but luck like that will only happen 1% of the time, while Bayern Munich reputation is very big, it will not be possible to let go of defeat for MU and on the one hand, Galatasaray and Copenhagen, these two teams also want to be able to qualify for the next round, especially Galatasaray who have a much better performance than MU.

I say this because its about facts and other people here will also say the same thing regarding Man United currently who really dont have any hope except losing or drawing.
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December 08, 2023, 09:03:01 PM
Yes, it would probably be a real shame for Manchester United to finish last in the group, but I don't remember them achieving any success in European Cups recently. Of course it would be nice for them to finish third to stay in the Europa League, but the chances are really slim.
If Manchester United headcoach, Erik Ten Hag is innovative and the players become productive in matches, the exact same energy and power level they exerted against Chelsea, if they used it against Bayern Munich, it will be tough and entertaining to watch because I don't settle for lesser games. First of all, Manchester United group is very very competitive and there's no club to be underrated, everyone finds what's good. Manchester united have a major aim in UCL and there hope is to manage and win Bayern Munich and qualify for the Europa League spot.
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December 08, 2023, 06:15:34 PM
It is too difficult to imagine Manchester United qualifying for the round of 16, if it happened it would be a miracle. I don't think Bayern Munich will completely let Manchester United embarrass them at Old Trafford, so it's clear that the match between Manchester United and Bayern Munich will be tight. Manchester United certainly has a chance to win the match, but their chances of qualifying for the round of 16 are 50:50.
Yes, it is quite difficult for Man United. If they qualify for the next round, they get a miracle. Sure, Bayern Munich won't let Man United to get 3 points for free. Bayern Munich must try to win the match for their pride, they don't want to be defeated by Man United. So, no guarantee for Man United to win the match in Old Trafford.

Qualifying for the Europa League is the most realistic goal in my opinion, but of course I can expect a big bonus if Manchester United qualify for the round of 16. With his performance in the last match against Chelsea, the confidence of the team and players is getting better and hopefully they will be able to maintain it.
Indeed. Finish in the 3rd place will be more realistic result if they win against Bayern Munich. Galatasaray and Copenhagen have a bigger chance to qualify for the next round if one of them win the final match. However, the chance for a draw isn't impossible. But we can assume it to be a very small chance for a draw.

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December 08, 2023, 05:51:23 PM
I feel like Copenhag has the advantage of the pitch, that is the biggest thing that people are not talking about. These players are used to playing there, they have played there for a long time, some of them played there all their life, but Galatasaray players will be foreign to the weather and the pitch.

The pitch can't be grass, like not the grass we know, not the dirt and grass that we use everywhere, it's still fine by regulations, but it's a bit more rough, not really "fake" but more rough, in a weather like they have over at Copenhagen they had to change it, and Galatasaray players will not be ready for that, they are not used to it, they have mild weather where they live, so between the super cold weather that you may feel freezing, and also the pitch that is different, you are going to end up with a lot of trouble for the Galatasaray team, and if they failed to win at home, imagine how much difference that cold weather away game will be.

In the first meeting at Galatasaray headquarters, Copenhagen was able to provide resistance to the home team. In fact, Copenhagen was ahead with a 0-2 advantage. Unfortunately, in the 73rd minute one of Copenhagen's players was given a red card. In the end, Galatasaray was able to equalize the score to a 2-2 draw.
referring to the first point you said, this is quite reasonable and worthy of consideration, especially considering their initial match meeting. Apart from the points you are talking about, in their last 5 matches Copenhagen is experiencing a decline in performance. 3 defeats, 1 draw, in the Domestic League and 1 more match, a draw against Bayern Munich. However, because this match is being played at Copenhagen's home ground, they will appear all out in front of their own supporters. Moreover, they have great motivation as they finished second in the Group A phase.

As for Galatasaray, they performed quite well in their Domestic League. In fact, as professional players, they must be ready to fight in any weather and terrain. Moreover, Okan Buruk's squad also wants to win to accompany Bayern Munich in the next round. Referring to betting options, the odds provided by bookies do not have a significant difference. So, these two teams both have a chance. However, because Copenhagen acts as the home team, they should be able to maximize this match and it will be an advantage for them. Just wait, because in the next few days this match will be held.
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December 08, 2023, 05:40:39 PM
Yes, it would probably be a real shame for Manchester United to finish last in the group, but I don't remember them achieving any success in European Cups recently. Of course it would be nice for them to finish third to stay in the Europa League, but the chances are really slim.
If you look at Manchester United last match in the group phase, of course they have quite tough opponents and I predict they will have difficulty winning this match. If that happens, Manchester united will automatically close the group stage in 4th place and they will have no chance of joining the European league. But for Bayern munich, the last match is not that important for them, so if Bayern Munich doesn't field their core squad, of course it will be an opportunity for Manchester United to win.

And fierce competition will automatically occur in the Copenhagen vs Galatasaray match because they will compete like life and death to win a ticket for the round of 16.
Galatasaray, who rely on Icardi as their spearhead, hopes that Icardi can make a lot of contributions in the match against Copenhagen. In my opinion, Gelatasaray will accompany Bayern Munich to advance to the round of 16.
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December 08, 2023, 05:09:32 PM
In another group, PSG, Newcastle and Milan are also in a difficult situation. PSG has 2 points more than Milan and Newcastle, but PSG can still fail to qualify for the round of 16 if one of Milan or Newcastle wins, while PSG loses to Dortmund. Luis Enrique must do something that can make PSG qualify for the last 16. A draw or win is the scenario they should strive for, if they lose to Dortmund then PSG will have to regret the result.
This is a group of hell and it will definitely be very difficult to predict who will qualify in the end because a win in the last match is a guarantee that they will qualify for the next phase.
At the moment Dortmund are very comfortable and sure to qualify for the next phase but this actually backfires for the other 3 clubs including PSG because indeed their target now is only runner up.
And we know when it is in the Runner up sometimes it is always difficult for PSG even though they qualify because the previous 2 seasons also when they were in the Runner up they always lost in the knock out phase.
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December 08, 2023, 04:46:59 PM
Yeah i think the Manchester United fans are gonna see most the game in Copenaghe between Galatasaray and Copenaghe than the match between them and Bayern Munich.  Grin

They have a tiny expectation to go into round of 16, but we have one more chance, what if they ended in the last spot of the table? total shame.
Yes, it would probably be a real shame for Manchester United to finish last in the group, but I don't remember them achieving any success in European Cups recently. Of course it would be nice for them to finish third to stay in the Europa League, but the chances are really slim.

I don’t really think there will be hope for Manchester United to go higher again. The team has been experiencing a tough time this season, and most people are not really enjoying it, especially the fans. Although Ten Hag really needs to be blamed, the type of style he usually uses to manage the squad is too poor. He doesn't use the strategy that can boost the team's performance, in my opinion, because if he did, the team could have woken up by now, Atleastt even if they won’t achieve anything in the competition, is okay. but they shouldn’t perform badly like there doing now because is embarrassing to see Manchester United performing this way, or there position in the standing should be like this. However we need to know that most of the difficulties Manchester United face is from the manager I think. 
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Experienced strikers mean the strikers who can make a difference in the match and have great ability in scoring goals. Man United have talented strikers, they are young and have potential to develop. But those strikers still have no ability in scoring goals consistently. Man United current strikers aren't productive strikers, they are too inconsistent as the top strikers of big team like Man United.
You're right, Manchester United have a talented striker and I recognize that. Rasmus Højlund is still very young [20 years old] and he can still develop into the best striker, but his current performance has not proven much even though Rasmus Højlund managed to score 5 goals in the Champions League this season. Anthony Martial who has more experience is also not doing well when he gets the chance, so the striker case is indeed a mandatory need for Manchester United.

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Without CF? I think it is not a wise idea, Man United needs a CF to sharpen their attacking. CF is a player who has a special ability in scoring goals. If Ten Hag relies on the wingers and AMF for scoring goals, they won't be easy to do it. Wingers and AMF can be good players and can score goals. However, I rarely found wingers or AMF who can be a real machine goal for the team. Bellingham is a rare AMF who can score many goals.
There's nothing wrong with trying new strategies and seeing what they can do. Bruno Fernandez is good to fill AMF's shoes and he also scores goals often. Ten Hag might need to trust Rashford to play as a CF or left-winger instead of playing as a right-winger. Last season Rashford often played in those two positions and his performance was very impressive. I don't sure, but I know Ten Hag has tried it and may need to give him more opportunities.

Rashford's decline in form has been a blessing for Garnacho, but Rashford must fight to regain his place in the first-team squad. He must work harder and be focused, otherwise, Rashford will experience an unpleasant setback moment in his career. He must keep the coach's trust by playing as expected, but tough times are bound to come for all players.
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December 08, 2023, 04:44:00 PM
United chances in the UCL and Europa League are closed, only a big miracle can take them to one of these competitions. Ten Hag is the person most responsible for all the failures, he deserves criticism if he continues to maintain a tough style of managing the club. We can only hope that United can finish in the top four of the EPL standings at the end of the season, and try again next season to try for better luck, for this season there is no longer any hope.

For me, I feel Manchester United are going to be bad for a long time because they don't even know the cause of all these problems.
Today they play Glazers, tomorrow they blame the players, and the next day is the Onana. This just goes on to show how bad the club is.

First, Manchester United is a very badly run club. They don't know how to handle issues. See how they handled Ronaldo's interview before his contract was terminated.
The same way they're handling Greenword's. First, they reported that his contract had been terminated, next, he went out on loan. How does a player who is a free agent go on loan? This means they're still keeping the door open for him to come back when the heat around Greenwood dies down. Manchester United should know that they're in no position to take the kind of heat that comes with Greenwood when they still have a lot coming from Antony.

Sancho's situation is another example of how United could have handled things better.

When it comes to signing players, Manchester United make very poor decisions. It's not just about how expensive the player is. Ask questions like "Is he good?" " Does he fit into the system?" And many more questions.

Manchester United don't have a team that's ready to compete. You can't compete when players like Martial and Ganacho are your best players.
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