⚽UEFA EURO 2020 Discussion Thread | Current Phase: Finals in June 2021! - page 54.

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Quote from: SquallLeonhart on July 02, 2021, 10:20:53 AM

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ESPN probabilities of progress:
Spain -72%
England - 71%
Denmark - 66%
Italy - 53%

So if you get odds on progress matching that = value.

I do not understand how they calculated any of this. Giving Denmark a better possibility then Italy? I mean I suppose that is because Denmark will be playing against Czech Republic which is an easier opponent compared to Italy playing Belgium which will be one of the hardest matchups for them. However I would still say that the team that has been unbeaten for how many games now (close to 30 games right?) should have a higher percentage for sure.

Plus Spain faces an easy opponent as well so I get it, but I believe England is playing an easier opponent as well and Spain hasn't been really that great, I know they have come thus far but they haven't played like they used to and I believe England has a better chance. It is football anyway, they just gave some numbers that are totally made up and "according to them" thing, so there is nothing wrong with it.

It's statistics, and looking at their biggest flaws as I mentioned earlier, in general, teams do tend to average out or get closer to the mean, in terms of stats like Expected Goals scored and conceded. Belgium have been really overachieving (4 times their xG) and it finally gave out last night, with only a penalty to their name.

And yes, it was Italy vs Belgium (FIFA 1st ranked) and Denmark vs Czech, so this was a chance to progress more than a chance to WIN.

Let's see if the Danes and English complete this.

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Quote from: Maidak on July 02, 2021, 10:24:25 AM

I watched the whole match. Mbappe has taken many wrong shots in the match. Which were far from the goalposts. He could have passed to any other player. However, if he had been able to score from those shots, we would all be applauding him now, but players have to be careful when playing against strong teams. Missing any chance increases the chances of losing the match.

That's always the case in any game, and for any top striker, you always have to decide what to do, and if you keep missing, people pay attention. I still think a striker has to be selfish and take his chances, especially when you do have the talents and ability like he does. I know Benzema complains about him not passing but we've seen that's not true either. Anyway:) The game is over and Mbappe will still be a great player:) What do you think of Morata? Is he also right to be blamed for missing a lot?

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Quote from: YOSHIE on July 03, 2021, 12:53:38 AM

Today at:23.00, Czech Republic vs Denmark, I have a good feeling for Denmark, tomorrow at:2.00 Ukraine vs England, also have a good feeling towards England this time.

My hunch said yesterday that Spain met Italy, it's proven, I have the same thing that will happen, England will meet Denmark, we'll see the results later at: 23.00 and at: 2.00, hopefully I will lead in the Quarter finals this.

I Stand with you on this one, Denmark wins today, England wins as well
Between the tie Spain - Italy, I'll go again with the Italians to take charge on this.
England - Denmark,its going to be a little bit hard for the English side,but yet they'll scale through.
Am predicting Raheem Sterling to Score in today's match against Ukraine.

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Again, I am probably being biased because I am Italian but so far it is absolutely clear that Italy and Belgium were the best two teams of Euro 2020. Now Italy won this difficult match and goes to Wembley for the semifinal against Spain.
Every game after the group stage is like final and with Spain is going to be very difficult but Italy has showed Europe that they are a great candidate to win a cup.
Curious to see what England does tonight.

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Quote from: hahay on July 03, 2021, 01:45:57 AM

Since the beginning before the tournament even started I even considered Italy will reach the final, and so far Italy is still very convincing and only against Austria have I disappointed.

Yes. After eliminating Belgium, Italy is now two games away from glory at Euro 2020.
Until the start of this tournament, I didn't think much of Italy but starting from the very first day, Italy proved that they are ready to win the tournament. With 13 wins in a row, they are now unbeaten in 32 matches. Unfortunately, left-back Spinazzola, who has been one of the best players during the tournament, was injured, and reportedly, he'll be out for many months.

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Today we will certainly have two more good matches:

Czech Republic vs Denmark
Both teams are showing good football, it should be an excellent match. I believe Denmark should win the game.

Ukraine vs England
England will play their first away game, we'll see how they play. Although Ukraine are a difficult team to beat, I think England will win the game.

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Quote from: 3meek on July 03, 2021, 01:26:13 AM

I think the Italians will win the final! They are objectively stronger than the other teams... The English can't win them for sure!

It will be interesting to see how Ukraine plays against England today...
I don't doubt about Denmark! Wink

Since the beginning before the tournament even started I even considered Italy will reach the final, and so far Italy is still very convincing and only against Austria have I disappointed.

Regarding Czech vs Denmark, I personally still believe that both teams have the same chance of winning, but since the Czechs had previously beaten the Netherlands, I think maybe the Czechs can maintain that and continue to play aggressively against Denmark. I think it will be an exciting match maybe it will also have the same atmosphere as when Denmark beat Russia.

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Quote from: 3meek on July 03, 2021, 01:26:13 AM

I think the Italians will win the final! They are objectively stronger than the other teams... The English can't win them for sure!

Nothing can be sure in soccer.

Italy dominated the match like France did in World Cup 2018 against Arghentina and like Spain 4 or 6 years ago. I can not believe in my eyes that it is Italy. More impressive to know they don't have any super stars in the squad. Maybe it is how they are an united team, not like France.

It seems only two big opponents left for Italy, Spain in semi final and England in the final.

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I think the Italians will win the final! They are objectively stronger than the other teams... The English can't win them for sure!

It will be interesting to see how Ukraine plays against England today...
I don't doubt about Denmark! Wink

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Quote from: SquirrelJulietGarden on July 02, 2021, 05:40:22 AM

Do you think of a secret weapon of Italy, a former bank staff, Gianni Vio?

Italy’s secret weapon is Gianni Vio, a former banker who created the 4,830 set-piece routine for Euro 2020.
He has many weird, creative set-piece routines for Italian players.

Italy won and have a rejected goal from Bonucci. It is a correct decision from referee as it is an offside goal but it is unlucky for Italy and Bonucci. It proves that Vio trainings for Italy players are very well with set-piece routines.

Quote from: gabbie2010 on July 03, 2021, 01:05:00 AM

Both teams played excellent football however it's a pity one had to leave Italy had been on top of their game having gone unbeaten in their last 32 games this is also their 12 consecutive wins I am tipping them to reach the finals of the tournament, they have a very complete team with a good goalkeeper and players like Spinazzola, Insigne, aged and experience defender Chiellini I don't think Spain who had not been impressive will posses any threat or challenge to them when they meet in the semi-final.

Italy prolong their unbeaten record but the final result and how they control the match is very impressive. I thought I was watching Spain, not Italy.

Congratulations Italian boys.

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Quote from: KTChampions on July 02, 2021, 04:50:48 PM

I was hoping for Belgium to win, but Italy won, the match was good and I think that if Belgium opened the scoring they had every chance to win.
Now we are waiting for an excellent semi-final Italy - Spain, at the moment Italy looks like the favorite in this confrontation. Hopefully we'll see a lot of goals here.

To tell you the truth i wanted Italy to win this match. Although Belgium were strong team on papers but on the day Italy was lucky to win the quarterfinal.

They would have a tough competition with Italy in the Semi-finals and it will not be an easy game for them.

The match between Italy and Belgium will carry the trophy. Both team given everything, but it turned out another disappointing tournament for Belgium. The best thing about Italy is their team work chances of them lifting this EURO trophy. Italy proceed to the EURO 2020 semi-final, only two additional successes to go.

Both teams played excellent football however it's a pity one had to leave Italy had been on top of their game having gone unbeaten in their last 32 games this is also their 12 consecutive wins I am tipping them to reach the finals of the tournament, they have a very complete team with a good goalkeeper and players like Spinazzola, Insigne, aged and experience defender Chiellini I don't think Spain who had not been impressive will posses any threat or challenge to them when they meet in the semi-final.

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Today at:23.00, Czech Republic vs Denmark, I have a good feeling for Denmark, tomorrow at:2.00 Ukraine vs England, also have a good feeling towards England this time.

My hunch said yesterday that Spain met Italy, it's proven, I have the same thing that will happen, England will meet Denmark, we'll see the results later at: 23.00 and at: 2.00, hopefully I will lead in the Quarter finals this.

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As predicted, Italy won Belgium. Italy at Euro21 looks very well prepared and better than other teams. This was evident from the first games. I think Italy will play in the final. The second team will most likely be Denmark. I really like this team.

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I was hoping for Belgium to win, but Italy won, the match was good and I think that if Belgium opened the scoring they had every chance to win.
Now we are waiting for an excellent semi-final Italy - Spain, at the moment Italy looks like the favorite in this confrontation. Hopefully we'll see a lot of goals here.

To tell you the truth i wanted Italy to win this match. Although Belgium were strong team on papers but on the day Italy was lucky to win the quarterfinal.

They would have a tough competition with Italy in the Semi-finals and it will not be an easy game for them.

The match between Italy and Belgium will carry the trophy. Both team given everything, but it turned out another disappointing tournament for Belgium. The best thing about Italy is their team work chances of them lifting this EURO trophy. Italy proceed to the EURO 2020 semi-final, only two additional successes to go.

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Quote from: KTChampions on July 02, 2021, 04:50:48 PM

I was hoping for Belgium to win, but Italy won, the match was good and I think that if Belgium opened the scoring they had every chance to win.
Now we are waiting for an excellent semi-final Italy - Spain, at the moment Italy looks like the favorite in this confrontation. Hopefully we'll see a lot of goals here.

To tell you the truth i wanted Italy to win this match. Although Belgium were strong team on papers but on the day Italy was lucky to win the quarterfinal.

They would have a tough competition with Italy in the Semi-finals and it will not be an easy game for them.

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Quote from: Luzin on July 02, 2021, 09:01:52 PM

Thrilling match. But I like Spain he has the ball, almost 970 passes with 90% accuracy is beautiful. Although I was sad when they lost 0-1. But lucky they have a strong mentality they are able to make the score draw until 120 minutes. Congratulations Spain you won the penalty, and you became the most successful penalty specialist.

For Switzerland I am not wrong, their initial prediction will make it difficult for Spain to happen earlier. Next Spain vs Italy, it's difficult but I'm still looking forward to Spain.

Spain deserves this win. If Switzerland had won, it would have been unfair. Because of ball possession, Spain 72% and Switzerland was only 28%. On the other hand, Spain had made 28 shots and Switzerland had made only 8. Spain made 8 on-target shots and Switzerland made only 2. Spain played just great.

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Quote from: KTChampions on July 02, 2021, 04:50:48 PM

I was hoping for Belgium to win, but Italy won, the match was good and I think that if Belgium opened the scoring they had every chance to win.

The match between Belgium Vs Italy was only interesting in the first half, I picked Belgium on my bet, and Lukaku's goal in the first half, I hope they can make FT a draw like any other. after the second half started everyone was bored, not even 1 goal was created. Undecided

I think the match between Czech Republic Vs Denmark will be interesting, Match between 2 Underdogs

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I would like to recognize the effort that Switzerland made when facing Spain, historically Spain has more soccer strength and Switzerland almost had the opportunity to take them out, on penalties what sometimes influences the most is not only technique, but good luck, (but remember what what Roberto Baggio did in the final of Brazil vs Italy in the final of 94) in any case it is not bad that Spain advances, however I do not share the decision of Luis Enrique not to have led the squad with the players who do the same in the Real Madrid, On the other hand Italy never disappoints, Belgium represented for me one of the toughest teams in the EURO.

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Quote from: mitchr4 on July 02, 2021, 06:11:40 PM

Quote from: Dewi Aries on July 02, 2021, 05:47:54 PM

Yes, I agree, if you compare the games between Spain and Italy, I'm more sure that Italy has a bigger chance
As I said before most of Spain's wins were in extra time and penalties so if spain can draw then the chance is 50:50

Yes, Spain benefited from extra time and penalties. The only goal they got was from the touch of a Swiss player and there was no pure goal from Spain. Honestly, I can't predict Spain will win against Italy because if we look at the match, Spain doesn't have a chance to going further.

Both the teams have fielded inexperienced players this time. In case of Spain, their defense is strong, while for Italy their attack is looking good. Actually I was expecting Belgium to go down against Italy. From the past few matches, it was clear that Lukaku was not passing on the ball. Pass accuracy of the Belgium players was also much lower than that from Italy (83% vs 88%). The semifinal match between Spain and Italy is going to be interesting, because it is going to be a clash between two teams of almost equal strength.

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Thrilling match. But I like Spain he has the ball, almost 970 passes with 90% accuracy is beautiful. Although I was sad when they lost 0-1. But lucky they have a strong mentality they are able to make the score draw until 120 minutes. Congratulations Spain you won the penalty, and you became the most successful penalty specialist.

For Switzerland I am not wrong, their initial prediction will make it difficult for Spain to happen earlier. Next Spain vs Italy, it's difficult but I'm still looking forward to Spain.

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