Topic: UFC 259 - Predictions & discussion to matches w/odds added from different source (Read 489 times)

It was really bad for stake that Adesanya lost because they had him as brand ambassador recently and the guy was undefeated until then.  I am sure though he will come back strong in his actual weight class so not a big worry but it hurts to see an undefeated streak being broken now.

Eddie and stake even offered 3 times the winning if Adesanya wins before the timer and not sure if stake is happy because they must have won a lot of money from bettors or upset because their recent signing of Adesanya didn't go as planned.

Well, it's easy to say in hindsight but I always doubted the size problem which was evident in the fight and the defense from Blachowicz was unbelievable and even Adesanya commended it after the fight in the conference.

I hope not many guys lost their money because the 3 times winnings were just too lucrative to let go. On a side note, good to see stake still standing with Adesanya despite his loss.

In striking speed is the needed advantage and the reason Israel Adesanya did not plan on bulking his body to move in division is because he thought he needs to fight in his normal weight class and putting weight will slow him down and then his entire plan was to continue to defend his belt in the Middle Weight division but that is a negative if a heavier fighter takes you down because he has all the size advantage.

Israel Adesanya did not put in extra weight to move up in division, he did not cut any weight and even though moved up to fight in a bigger weight division he was fighting well below the weight limit.


Jon Jones is a wrestler who happened to be the best fighters in MMA history period and Israel Adesanya will struggle on the ground but if it is a stand up bout without the MMA rules it is interesting.

Would have to agree with you there. This so called experiment in advancing in a weightclass so fast caused him a failure at launch to happen in this fight
Maybe he should be looking for a comeback with a rematch with Robert Whittaker instead.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6fa6NhKd_8

Here is a good video from the same interviewer (celebrity gamerz) about where Israel got his fighting style from (in video games ) and about fighting Jon Jones. But not anymore after this loss because there were some tweets saying Jones was laughing at him wanting to fight him now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7HhyEZ2HRo

In striking, Weight is an advantage but this is UFC which means any martial arts can be used so its pointless if you have the striking power while you can't land it properly to your opponent. Adasenya is very good in anticipating his opponents move that's why he is always 1 step ahead on his opponent. We already saw that he beats a monster powerful striker like Costa before.

UFC 259 Wrap Up Notes~

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFqIhGzeh6c
Gracie Breakdown, Amanda Nunes vs. Megan Anderson (UFC 259)

Very good breakdown of Amanda Nunes submission of Megan Anderson.

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• It looked like Aljamain Sterling utilized the same gameplan his Serra Longo teammate Merab Dvalishvili uses. Trying to overwhelm opponents with a high pace. I would like to see Sterling try to get Petr Yan's back, he's very dangerous from that position with strong submissions.
• Sean Brady's arm triangle from half guard submission, could be only the 2nd time someone has pulled that move off in the UFC. The other being Bryan Barberena's sub finish of Sage Northcutt.
• Rogerio Bonterin gasing out and exhausting himself in round 1 reminded me of Rodolfo Vieira at UFC 258. Both Bonterin and Vieira share backgrounds as former BJJ champions. Maybe there is correlation there.
• Yadong used to call himself Yadong "The Terminator" Song. Now his nickname is Yadong "Kung Fu Monkey" Song. He was a better fighter when he was "The Terminator" IMO back when Justin Buccholz was head coach of team alpha male.

Sorry yeah, I was referring to you saying that Nunez would have been a smarter choice as ambassador.  Maybe I read too much into it. Like I said though, look forward to more of the trash talk I kind of miss in sportsbetting ha ha =)

There must be an easy app/webpage like livescores for MMA. Anyone know any?

That is why I don't really make a decision and went on the bet, but I really want to show my support for Israel Adesanya but Jan Blachowics just keeps getting better with everything he does, and with good striking and submission options he is the real deal here than Adesanya,

Odds don't really mean a thing I really think it is just the value of popularity that is why the odds are so high, Jan Blachowics had proven some respect to not really take him lightly and I think that Adesanya will be back and be better if a rematch would occur.

It appears that weight and size has been proven to be very advantageous even if the opponent has more skill in striking hehe. We might also begin to witness this storyline from fans that Israel Adesanya can beat Jon Jones will stop hehehe.

You must be confusing me with someone else or having badly quoted because I never said anywhere Adesanya has been a wimp during the fight. Blachowicz has been stronger than him and Adesanya fairly admitted it after the fight.

Just as I predicted on the other thread I knew it was going to be some kind of drama to cut the 20-0 winning streak. Adesanya was full of confidence but the result went otherwise. UFC were not comfortable with the 1 champ, 2 division stuff.


The Champ will be back and better.

I can't hold myself to not appreciate Izzy even more after last night even if he got defeated but he stood there like a champ and fought with Jan from blow to blow which was like a chess battle at some point because both of them were looking for really hard strikes in order to get as many points. I know some of us were disappointed with the lack of a showdown but we had so many other fights that were amazing to watch and one of them is Nunez who is more dangerous than anytime.... .

Israel Adesanya was confident in his striking and so he made his decision to move up without bulking up and he weighed in with his walk around weight and he underestimated when the fight went to the ground that will be a disadvantage and he paid the price. 

Glover Teixeira is the next opponent for Jan Błachowicz as he was the back up fighter in this card if there was any change in the main event and age is running out for Glover Teixeira and it is time he gets his second title short in the UFC.

I saw your post in the other thread trashing Israel for being a wimp in the fight haha. You seem to be of 2 very different opinions on different outcomes eh?

But cool, look forward to seeing more of this trash talk in UFC threads. Footie used to be so violent for me haha but since growing old and being online, can't say the rivalry's been a fierce between teams than before.

I'd definitely have taken a 10/1 bet on close-underdog to win by decision, but I think Israel was clearly out of size here for some reason. He didn't seem to bother Blacho at all so no KO worry.

winner's quote on who's next: "I think [Teixeira] deserves it," Blachowicz said. "He'll have to wait a little bit, so I can rest and be with my family. But he will wait, he will be next."

It is a fight and we are betting on it and the fight result will not change if i praised him or not, if Israel Adesanya stayed in the Middle Weight division he can win all the fights and Israel Adesanya wanted challenges and i was hoping for a great fight and we saw a great fight and i was vocal why Jan Błachowicz will win in the main thread. It was a technical fight and it is not about power and finishes all the time.

Israel Adesanya is the real deal, he was not over hyped. You underestimated Jan Błachowicz and you were doubting it will be impossible for him to beat Israel Adesanya but you forgot to understand that it is not a striking competition and you forgot the ground skills of Jan Błachowicz or you have not watched his past fights and moving up is not an easy task if the opponent has a ground advantage.

This is why I went with the option Will this match go the distance? because from my previous post right before the match started I was having doubts on who was going to win it too. Because as we all know the odds do not dictate what the outcome of the match will be.
That is certainly obvious with the these odds on every site they were offered on and the option I picked on both my betslips were just about the same amount of odds as a straight win for the underdog @2.65x on stake and @2.56x on sportsbet (was on a nunes multibet so won a bit more on this betslip then just the single I had on stake).

That is why I am having doubts that Adesanya can win against Blachowics that is why I have stayed away from betting that my boy Adesanya can win this, now Israel Adesanya had a 1 lost record a really bad decision in storming into a different division while he thinks just beating Paul Costa would certainly get it done, Blachowics was a different person when he faces Reyes and I think that Jan Blachowics really have given Adesanya a good beating from the strikes and submission, but I am guessing that there might be a rematch.

Adesanya lost in which sport? What you're saying is a little bit surprising because his record was virgin of defeat in MMA until now. He was officially undefeated in 20 MMA fights until this contest.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_Adesanya

Izzy just looked overpowered, not just in a punching sense, but also in his ability to predict Jqans game plan, and not being able to adjust accordingly. He really did look stuck in that cage, I think it was not having the range advantage that screwd up his game. As for Jan, he might be in the upper range regarding his age, but for LHW and HW this is common, the smaller divisions burn out younger (Aldo looks like he's 47 and just turned 30 or something). Jon Jones on Twitter really blasting Izzy right now, rightfully so, and I think any chance of that fight happening any time soon is nonexistent. IMHO Izzy's stock fell hard, but that's how it goes, he took a bet on himself and lost. If he'd won that that bet would be worth it. 

FYI Adesanya once lost already but not in UFC. I saw the fight on youtube where he was knocked out by a left cross. This time is the UFC but its just one loss anyway besides its a reasonable loss. He could come back with vengeance soon, I could say it really needs a rematch until there is a real knockout.

Blachowicz really proved himself this time to be the Polish power and he had done so in the past despite his age.

That was one of the most exciting fights in the UFC that's how you use your skill and Damn, he was like a kid who got bullied by a big man. That was something you don't expect when you see such fighters who haven't taste defeat in their career taste his first loss. No need for 2nd fight with this one since it didn't even come to a close fight it's a one-man wrecking machine and Adesanya got Wreck today.

You're not really nice with our new Stake ambassador 7788bitcoin   If Blachowicz won without any challenge why he has not been able to finish him in 5 rounds?
I'm a little bit disappointed because I think Adesanya has been overhyped by those promotions. Congrats to bettors who kept their heads cool despite all this hype.  

Adesanya just can't take the weight, it's too abrupt for him to really get used to the body weight. he could have fought someone else yet in the light heavyweight and not the champ right away. he is new in the division and then Dana just put him right against Blachowicz. anyway, lose with Petr Yan. it's disappointing to see that Yan is winning, he is good at boxing but then violates a rule all of a sudden and lost it.

Go that Adesanya cost him when Jan was on top of him, apparently the weight did affect the category very well, from the 4th Raound Jan's strategy was to throw him to the ground and from there apply force and use all his weight , really there if he dominated the Polish. Adesanya couldn't contain being shot down, it was a very strategic fight. I hope to see the rematch again, they are actually different categories, the difference was seen, there was a lot of respect between them in the same way.

Israel Adesanya was like a duck stuck in a cage in the fourth round the weight of Jan Błachowicz which i was talking about was showing in the fight and if Jan Błachowicz can continue that in the final round he can retain the belt  .

Edit: The final round was the same, the Polish power showed how he can control Israel Adesanya and he did that in the feet and in the ground he dominated as Adesanya was pinned to the ground and won the fight without any challenge  .

It is like that, he did not want to put the Champion belt and threw it into the octagon, I do not know if it was an act of groceries, but it was not something very correct, however they must meet again in another fight, things cannot continue like this. Now that Nunes and Anderson are fighting, the main course is last with blachowicz and Adesanya.

The Power of Amanda with tremendous Lever makes the fight end !! Incredibly ... The good is coming !!

Yan losing his belt and title due to an illegal knee to the head while Sterling was down was the biggest upset in tonight's matches so far.

According to an ESPN2 commentator, he said that Adesanya is taller, has the body to beat the Pole, that fights are not won by muscles, Adesanya fully has the conditions to win. Besides that he has a lot of speed, that is a plus in favor of Adesanya.

The match is almost starting, the statistics for now are favoring Adesanya.

I'm not surprise with him picking Israel as the winner but the manner of finish and the time is too ambitious. You are better off with just a win by KO.

This is basically the reason why I picked Jan to win the fight. I don't think IA can knock him out but he can win on points. The chances of Jan catching him in five rounds is higher.

that two matches is where i bet as well but for Blackowics just to be entertained and big hit but by KO i bet for Nunes and Petr Yan. there are really good matches here but there is just too much to bet i have no funds in my Stake account anymore to bet unless i win big after the 259.

Blackowics has 50/50 chance of course Adesanya is quicker but since he added some pounds to his weight I'll risk this time.

Rakic vs Santos, was that a fight or some sort of interpretive dance? I'm not sure.

Islam Makhachev is the real deal..who knew hugging people can also win fights. #makelovenotwar
Kidding, but top tier grappling from Makhachev. Future champ right there.

What a crazy end to Yan vs Sterling's fight. I thought Yan had the win guaranteed after 3 rounds. Unfortunate for him. There should be a rematch soon.

Its so sad to watch womens division. Nobody really knows how to fight other than Nunes. 

The underdog? You really think Błachowicz can win against Adesanya? You don't think he is way too slow to be able to do something against him? IMO it will be an easy win for Adesanya. I've bet on him, and even put a small stake on a victory by KO.
I've bet on Amanda Nunes too and a victory before the bell because I think Megan Anderson is just sparring partner for her, she's really courageous indeed.

In my opinion Izzy got this as few of people know that he fought more than 90 times before joining UFC and that is more than enough for me to take him as a winner tonight because Izzy came late into UFC and yet so young.

My biggest pick tonight will be Megan Anderson to win over Nunez as I think it's time for a new champ to rise and this girl is mega tough who is gonna put a one big fight and give all she got in order to secure the win. A pretty bold pick for me but it can pay out really nice.

I took Nunes under 1.5 rounds so expect her to not underestimate this giant and be the slayer just like that beanstalk story, she probably reads to her new kid for a nite-time nursery rhyme to make her fall asleep.

I don't think Blachowicz will go away silently into the night either.
He will put up a fight and that's why I put to go the distance for my pick on this main event blowout fight between these two light heavyweight contenders.

Hello again buwaytress!
I went with the underdog to win by decision. They gave too much of high odds to pass it up at @9.80x so we will just need to wait and see if my risk bet pays off for this major upset to happen.
Good luck to you on your predictions as well friend.

I have to agree with you on this guess on how the rounds will go.
This Polish guy is massive and is use to fighting at this weight-class as they have just said in the preview on the local channel broadcasted where I got these latest screens from, Adesanya is doing an "experiment" to fight in a weight-class which he is not use to being in.
So it will certainly make it interesting to see how he copes with this monster of a man named Blachowicz.

Here is a screencap of the ones who have done the near impossible in which Israel is looking to do tonight with a win to hold multiple belts in different weight-classes at the same time.
Only four others have done it and she is fighting tonight as well.

You can watch the stats on this link shown below.
source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EW3l2eE-lec

I watched Eddie's Stream (co-owner of Stake and the Official betting partner of the UFC) today and he placed a bet on Israel Adesanya to win with a knockout in the first round. I think I am going to do the same, even though I know it is going to be a big call against Mr Strong jaw. 

I hope Israel is quick enough to dodge the power and to find a way through to bring him down early... if the fight goes on too long, he might get lucky and he might get Israel on the ground and use his power to tap him out. (well that is my prediction) 

Hello friends, rdbase!

I'm pretty much an MMA virgin here. I HAVE placed fiat bets before and I spent many, many, MANY nights drinking beer and throwing baht at muay thai fighters in Thailand in the 2000s (total crazy and fun atmosphere, seriously) so I definitely get the buzz around these fights.

But having my own fun here with Sportsbet promos and will be following my picks: Medic, Rakic, Kenney and Yadong on a 7/1 total odds, parlayed with a football win for Spurs (already booked haha).

Good luck!

^Yeah mine's still 1.45, and fiat bookie boring at 1.40

All the major prediction sites that i follow picked Israel Adesanya to win the fight and some have picked for TKO win but i think Jan Błachowicz is hard to finish unless you are a hard puncher and he has the ground game and everyone is sleeping on the ground game of Jan Błachowicz and we have seen Middle Weight fighters testing Adesanya in striking.

Amanda Nunes is the heavy favorite in this card and no one expects Megan Anderson to defeat her but she has the size and reach advantage and i am expecting the fight to go over 1.5 rounds.

Aljamain Sterling has the grappling advantage and he has a chance to win and the only bet i make is Islam Makhachev which i think is a sure bet .

You can check odds of different sportsbooks on odds comparators like oddschecker.com for example :
https://www.oddschecker.com/ufc-mma/jan-blachowicz-v-israel-adesanya/winner
As you can see 1.47 for Adesanya is currently the biggest odds among main sportsbooks.

"UFC 259: Blachowicz vs Adesanya - I Know What True Greatness Is | Fight Preview"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWAlsSYbREo

"Top Finishes From UFC 259 Fighters before tonights engagement"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYVc_6s8t7c

"How many of those Polish hammers can one man take?"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7e1GKIeM0w

Other notable videos about the fight and outlook for Polish Power vs The Stylebender:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qd1oU_E3cFA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gonFYk9p8A

This fight is coming down to be one of the most EPIC as the last video has put it and not one to miss!

Just looked at some staff picks and predictions on the Bloody Elbow site and I am actually quite surprised that the vast majority pick Adesanya over Jan. I am not surprised by them picking Nunes to win over Anderson or even mixed picks for Sterling and Yan (in favor of Yan), but with the main fight they all act like Jan is a lamb brought to slaughter. They all credit him as having more power and that just about sums it up, living room to write up about Izzy being the second coming of Jesus. I know Jan an't the best LHW but for f**** sake give the man some chance.

This was a discussion prior to the weigh-ins today.
BTW, I never really checked out the v-log series for this fight but after watching the latest one today found it an interesting introspective of what each fighter goes through building up towards the fight card taking place:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TT6OBT_bHuU
Shows them during the weigh-ins and I liked watching it more due to the editing done to cut it down so you are only needing to watch the important points.

Israel had a pizza box at the end of his weigh-in to show he thought needed to gain more weight so to face the likes of Jan.
Weighing at just over 200 (they announced he was at 201 and a half) he didn't met the 205 but still impressive to have bulked up as much as his frame allowed from 185lbs weight class to this 200lbs he stands at now.
15-16lbs aint half bad to gain and it looks to be all muscle.

But as bbc.reporter has already mentioned Blachowicz is at a 30 pound advantage over his opponent.
So if he manages to grapple with him and swing him around the ring like a rag doll,
well then..
It will certainly be over. Because he does look like a monster from his previous fight shown here against Reyes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qkpmED9Vl0

that's what Jan meant when he said "I think he will take me seriously!"  30 more pounds isn't a safer opponent for anyone not even for the stylebender for a competitive MMA match. bigger fighters like Jan who is in the light heavyweight can easily recover after a slight groggy when hit by a high kick to the head. it's a dangerous weight class for Adesanya.

I like Israel Adesanya and what he is doing for the sport MMA, however, how can he defeat Jan who is a fighter bringing 30 more pounds of weight over Adesanya? Dana is very much hyping his new pet hehehe. We should be realists because the fight might also be similar to Dustin Poirier vs Max Holloway.

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Watch before the fight happens and see what makes this champion tick before placing your bets.
I can relate to the way Isreal carries himself into a fight and does not let things get in his way to achieve his goals.
Think of it as mamba mentality.

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Its obvious that I want Israel Adesanya to win this fight and became the light heavyweight Champ and the fifth UFC fighter having a back to back Champion but I fear that Adesanya could struggle against Jan Blachowicz, I don't know I just got the gut feeling about it for seeing how Blachowicz evolve in his career after defeating Dominick Reyes he is not reasoning his fight with just brute force but with collective thinking whether he will strike or used another tactic like submission on his opponent.

But I can not let my doubts got into me Adesanya when he fight Paul Costa was a magnificent fight but it is not in the light heavyweight division, So I am saying that Israel Adesanya will win this but may Struggle but I think Adesanya came prepared before going on with this fight so I still think he may win with an 80% probability.

obviously, Adesanya is the crowd's favorite anyone who saw him fight before will likely bet for him to win. he has the winning chance in the fight. but Blachowicz also has a power punch, one hit could knock Adensanya for a win. so there will be KO, the question is who so we're still unsure yet. will try to bet for Blachowicz By KO for few bucks just to enjoy the fight. 

So are anybody checking their respective sports books to see who has the best odds?

Stake claims they have the best odds and just announced their partnering with the UFC.
Stake has an official partnership with the UFC!


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Now just got to see if they will be having any octagon banners in this UFC 259 event like those other advertisers or it will be mutual partnership deal.

The hype machine is in full locomotion mode on youtube and on twitter for this fight now!

Well, this fight will be very good. An hour ago, I saw by the STAR Action TV channel a special UFC program, and JAN  I really surprise me, because it dominates the style of fight "Jiu Jitsu Brazilian", it is a very strong fighting style, of course, Adesanya has Champion wood and has that mentality, it is also a net boxer, what style will it dominate?
 
Jan has more weight, some are betting much more for him, but Adesanya may surprise, has to show much more strength and speed. If Adesanya wins would be a total success, because this guy manages very positive statistics, there are many who believe it will be K.O.

Weigh-ins in about 20 hours before the fight commence on March 6th.
Live: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3h4sjfwwdMA

Press conference in 15 minutes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7ROZZcIBDI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SibRY9DdOvE
BJJ Scout: Dominick Cruz Study Part 2 - Footwork and Counter Strategy

Good coverage of the approach and methodology Dominick Cruz utilizes in MMA.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17bh1pskCVg
Abdulmanap Nurmagomedov’s words on Khabib’s retirement

In the interview above Khabib Nurmagomedov's father (R.I.P.) predicted Islam Makhachev would become 155 lb UFC champion sometime after Khabib retired. Which would prove the coaching and training that Khabib and Islam have had are the best in MMA. That is what is at stake in the Drew Dober vs Islam Makhachev fight.

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This thread will be dedicated to offer discussion only for the upcoming fights in 56 hours from now.

Promotional video from Fight Promo:
"UFC 259: Adesanya vs Blachowicz - Precision vs Power | NETFLIX Promo"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uE-eV0lLSU0

You will be free to post up anything about: odds offered from any sites in comparison to find the market that you want to bet on.
Other videos you wanted to share before the fight and even the post-fight interviews.
Such as this one I found to be quite interesting to watch of Blachowicz just before going toe to toe in the octagon with The Stylebender!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxAVS7gIx7g
I liked when he said "I think he will take me seriously!"

Here is another nice video to watch posted just a few days ago from the official UFC Championship organization:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3tH9bZbGnA