Topic: UFC on FOX 24: Johnson vs Reis Info and Prediction Thread (Read 1395 times)
@bbc.reporter it is true that Robert Whittaker might not take a fight against Luke Rockhold too soon because when he was asked about it in the post fight press show he said he does not know about any deals and he played down the match up and said it is too early for him to tell anything,what ever it is it is hard for Souza to come back to title contention after this loss.
@SaShiRaJaVu. It is highly doubtful Luke Rockhold will get a scheduled fight versus Robert Whitaker. I do not think Robert will fight so soon. It will be a big risk for him and it is also to the advantage of Luke if he takes the fight. Robert is already in a good position to challenge for the title.
@bbc.reporter Ronaldo Souza is the biggest looser as he risked his chances ,the return of GSP and his title fight stalled the division and he was next to challenge for the belt after Romero ,now Robert Whittaker just changed everything and now Luke Rockhold has called out Robert Whittaker and if he faces him the winner would get a title shot after Romero .
What does the win of Robert Whitaker mean for the middleweight division? Does it mean Robert is going up to no.3 in the rankings? Maybe his next fight should be versus Yoel Romero or maybe a fight straight for a title challenge?
Never thought Jacare Souza could be defeated and the name Robert Whittaker was not under my radar and so is the reason i was not able to wage for the under dog ,Demetrious Johnson needs some serious challenge and Dana White have to scout the entire world to find a worthy opponent for him as he does not have any opponent in his division.
yeah he has but not as good as whittakers striking hes too fast
not bad had Robert Whittaker and Renato Moicano parlay that was my biggest bet
It was a really good parlay as i thought Jeremy Stephens could win the match,but unfortunately i had some losses and Robert Whittaker really is a good stand up fighter as he had a good game plan against Jacare Souza and he is on a seven fight winning streak and the division is filled with talented fighters,so it is difficult for him to get a title shot even with the winning streak. not bad had Robert Whittaker and Renato Moicano parlay that was my biggest bet
Congratulations to Demetrious Johnson for defending his ten title defenses in a row, what a fight he stops Wilson Reis with an armbar. To sad for Jacare Souza he was brutally pounded by Robert Whittaker, he dominated and well performance. I'm waiting for the next step of might mouse, will he still remain on his division or it's time leave and take a step forward.
yeah he has but not as good as whittakers striking hes too fast
not bad had Robert Whittaker and Renato Moicano parlay that was my biggest bet
not bad had Robert Whittaker and Renato Moicano parlay that was my biggest bet
will see if jacare can take him down, whittaker has 94% take down defense and if he cant get him down whittaker kills him standing.
Robert Whittaker has two major advantages in this match and that he is a much younger fighter and he has knock out power but if you take the rest of the comparison Ronaldo Souza stands out with a huge difference and the only problem he had was against good wrestlers and grappler's which was difficult for him to take down and Robert Whittaker is not a good grappler but when you are facing a fighter like Souza you need to be a specialist to overcome his ground game .
Robert Whitakker just shook up the entire middle weight division when he knocked the hell out of Ronaldo Souza and it is really hard for him to get a title shot after this loss,just one match destroyed Souza's title dreams,Demetrious Johnson as always displayed a tremendous performance to defeat Wilson Reis as he wiped out the entire division.
^ Good call! Too bad I was too much of a p**sy to pull the trigger. 
Kicking myself for that especially now that Waterson got dominated by Namajunas. I would have been slightly up for this weekend on UFC.
Btw... What happened to krach? Haven't seen him log on lately.
Kicking myself for that especially now that Waterson got dominated by Namajunas. I would have been slightly up for this weekend on UFC.Btw... What happened to krach? Haven't seen him log on lately.
will see if jacare can take him down, whittaker has 94% take down defense and if he cant get him down whittaker kills him standing.
Robert Whittaker has two major advantages in this match and that he is a much younger fighter and he has knock out power but if you take the rest of the comparison Ronaldo Souza stands out with a huge difference and the only problem he had was against good wrestlers and grappler's which was difficult for him to take down and Robert Whittaker is not a good grappler but when you are facing a fighter like Souza you need to be a specialist to overcome his ground game .lol boom 94%ttd and killer stand up is all you need to beat jacare
I really missed the full card,my prediction is Demetrious Johnson to win by TKO ,as he has never gone to distance in a very long time,Souza will win by submission as he is the real alligator and Jeremy Stephens and i like the ground game of Rose Namajunas and i hope they will end up winning the rest of the fights.
I'm liking the main card more now that I watched the weigh ins. And I didn't realize that Jacare Souza is fighting so soon. Does anyone know why?
Jacare finished his last fight quickly without taking damage or suffering injuries & so he was ready to fight again soon.
Jacare is getting older, he probably wants to make the most of his time & do whatever he can to earn a title shot.
I don't mind him fighting so soon, it is a pleasure to watch him work.
I'm liking the main card more now that I watched the weigh ins. And I didn't realize that Jacare Souza is fighting so soon. Does anyone know why?
Anyway here are the weigh in results.
Demetrious Johnson (124) vs. Wilson Reis (124)
Michelle Waterson (114.5) vs. Rose Namajunas (116)
Ronaldo Souza (186) vs. Robert Whittaker (185.5)
Jeremy Stephens (146) vs. Renato Moicano (145.5)
Alexander Volkov (245) vs. Roy Nelson (262)
Patrick Williams (136) vs. Tom Duquesnoy (135.5)
Bobby Green (156) vs. Rashid Magomedov (155.25)
Louis Smolka (126) vs. Tim Elliott (126)
Devin Clark (205) vs. Jake Collier (205.5)
Anthony Smith (186) vs. Andrew Sanchez (184.5)
Aljamain Sterling (135.5) vs. Augusto Mendes (135)
Zak Cummings (170) vs. Nathan Coy (171)
Ashlee Evans-Smith (136) vs. Ketlen Vieira (136)
UFC Fight Night Kansas City: Official Weigh-in
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptDuHPyir_c
Anyway here are the weigh in results.
Demetrious Johnson (124) vs. Wilson Reis (124)
Michelle Waterson (114.5) vs. Rose Namajunas (116)
Ronaldo Souza (186) vs. Robert Whittaker (185.5)
Jeremy Stephens (146) vs. Renato Moicano (145.5)
Alexander Volkov (245) vs. Roy Nelson (262)
Patrick Williams (136) vs. Tom Duquesnoy (135.5)
Bobby Green (156) vs. Rashid Magomedov (155.25)
Louis Smolka (126) vs. Tim Elliott (126)
Devin Clark (205) vs. Jake Collier (205.5)
Anthony Smith (186) vs. Andrew Sanchez (184.5)
Aljamain Sterling (135.5) vs. Augusto Mendes (135)
Zak Cummings (170) vs. Nathan Coy (171)
Ashlee Evans-Smith (136) vs. Ketlen Vieira (136)
UFC Fight Night Kansas City: Official Weigh-in
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptDuHPyir_c
@notserp. The odds of Robert Whitaker is now over +200. This brings me to the question, are the bets going in for Jacare from the casual fans or from the professional gamblers? Maybe the sportsbooks are adjusting the odds to make the underdog a more attractive bet for us.
will see if jacare can take him down, whittaker has 94% take down defense and if he cant get him down whittaker kills him standing.
Robert Whittaker has two major advantages in this match and that he is a much younger fighter and he has knock out power but if you take the rest of the comparison Ronaldo Souza stands out with a huge difference and the only problem he had was against good wrestlers and grappler's which was difficult for him to take down and Robert Whittaker is not a good grappler but when you are facing a fighter like Souza you need to be a specialist to overcome his ground game .94% tdd is not good grappling? not sure what else you need besides that and striking to beat souza ill take whittaker all day at +200 or more
Robert Whitaker's odds is still not enough if you ask me. He is against Jacare who is still one of the best fighter in the middleweight division. Some MMA analysts consider him as the next champion if he is given a chance to fight for the title.
well its only +170 now i thought it would go up but i guess i was wrong
will see if jacare can take him down, whittaker has 94% take down defense and if he cant get him down whittaker kills him standing.
Robert Whittaker has two major advantages in this match and that he is a much younger fighter and he has knock out power but if you take the rest of the comparison Ronaldo Souza stands out with a huge difference and the only problem he had was against good wrestlers and grappler's which was difficult for him to take down and Robert Whittaker is not a good grappler but when you are facing a fighter like Souza you need to be a specialist to overcome his ground game .94% tdd is not good grappling? not sure what else you need besides that and striking to beat souza ill take whittaker all day at +200 or more
Robert Whitaker's odds is still not enough if you ask me. He is against Jacare who is still one of the best fighter in the middleweight division. Some MMA analysts consider him as the next champion if he is given a chance to fight for the title.
Bellator 177 is also tomorrow(friday).
I am not familiar with any of the fighters listed in this card,is there any talent to look out for in this card,if so i would like to know,since there are more events now it is really hard to keep track of every fighters and if Bellator could make a superstar like UFC is creating then it will be a major competitor and they have already snatched some top talents from UFC .
Bellator 177 is also tomorrow(friday).
Bantamweight Eduardo Dantas (c) vs. Leandro Higo
Featherweight Daniel Weichel vs. John Teixeira
Featherweight Adam Borics vs. Anthony Taylor
Flyweight Lena Ovchynnikova vs. Helen Harper
Preliminary card (Spike.com)
Featherweight Brian Moore vs. Ludovit Klein
Bellator Kickboxing 6 fight card
Welterweight (Kickboxing) Zoltan Laszak (c) vs. Karim Ghajji
Featherweight (Kickboxing) Gabriel Varga vs. Gabor Gorbics
Middleweight (Kickboxing) Joe Schilling vs. Alexander Negrea
Featherweight (Kickboxing) Jorina Baars vs. Irene Martins
Welterweight (Kickboxing) Raymond Daniels vs. Gyorfi Csaba
Leandro Higo missed weight and so his fight with Eduardo Dantas will not be a title fight.
Daniel Weichel vs John Teixeira is the only other fight with names I recognize aside from Joe Schilling.
Bantamweight Eduardo Dantas (c) vs. Leandro Higo
Featherweight Daniel Weichel vs. John Teixeira
Featherweight Adam Borics vs. Anthony Taylor
Flyweight Lena Ovchynnikova vs. Helen Harper
Preliminary card (Spike.com)
Featherweight Brian Moore vs. Ludovit Klein
Bellator Kickboxing 6 fight card
Welterweight (Kickboxing) Zoltan Laszak (c) vs. Karim Ghajji
Featherweight (Kickboxing) Gabriel Varga vs. Gabor Gorbics
Middleweight (Kickboxing) Joe Schilling vs. Alexander Negrea
Featherweight (Kickboxing) Jorina Baars vs. Irene Martins
Welterweight (Kickboxing) Raymond Daniels vs. Gyorfi Csaba
Leandro Higo missed weight and so his fight with Eduardo Dantas will not be a title fight.
Daniel Weichel vs John Teixeira is the only other fight with names I recognize aside from Joe Schilling.
will see if jacare can take him down, whittaker has 94% take down defense and if he cant get him down whittaker kills him standing.
Robert Whittaker has two major advantages in this match and that he is a much younger fighter and he has knock out power but if you take the rest of the comparison Ronaldo Souza stands out with a huge difference and the only problem he had was against good wrestlers and grappler's which was difficult for him to take down and Robert Whittaker is not a good grappler but when you are facing a fighter like Souza you need to be a specialist to overcome his ground game .will see if jacare can take him down, whittaker has 94% take down defense and if he cant get him down whittaker kills him standing.
Robert Whittaker has two major advantages in this match and that he is a much younger fighter and he has knock out power but if you take the rest of the comparison Ronaldo Souza stands out with a huge difference and the only problem he had was against good wrestlers and grappler's which was difficult for him to take down and Robert Whittaker is not a good grappler but when you are facing a fighter like Souza you need to be a specialist to overcome his ground game .94% tdd is not good grappling? not sure what else you need besides that and striking to beat souza ill take whittaker all day at +200 or more
will see if jacare can take him down, whittaker has 94% take down defense and if he cant get him down whittaker kills him standing.
Robert Whittaker has two major advantages in this match and that he is a much younger fighter and he has knock out power but if you take the rest of the comparison Ronaldo Souza stands out with a huge difference and the only problem he had was against good wrestlers and grappler's which was difficult for him to take down and Robert Whittaker is not a good grappler but when you are facing a fighter like Souza you need to be a specialist to overcome his ground game . 
There's also MMA pundit Robin Black saying that Reis could win it vs Johnson if he could control the latter's back. That's hard to do. Johnson is just too quick.
Anyway, I made my only bet for the main card. Waterson to win money line at 2.25. I think that fight is a coin flip.
Anyway, I made my only bet for the main card. Waterson to win money line at 2.25. I think that fight is a coin flip.
I doubt he can take Johnson's back, like you said he's too quick and has a solid defense with his back against the floor. On paper, Namajunas and Waterson have similar skill sets with each sharing a background in traditional martial arts before adding other elements to make it to this level in the UFC. I still give the edge to Namajunas although I like Waterson, Namajunas edge will be her well rounded game she has developed.
There's also MMA pundit Robin Black saying that Reis could win it vs Johnson if he could control the latter's back. That's hard to do. Johnson is just too quick.
Anyway, I made my only bet for the main card. Waterson to win money line at 2.25. I think that fight is a coin flip.
Anyway, I made my only bet for the main card. Waterson to win money line at 2.25. I think that fight is a coin flip.
i think so thats why i like whittaker plus odds, but i think odds might go up even more so i would wait to bet.
@notserp. I did not know that. I am looking at the odds right now and I see Jacare -230 and Robert Whittaker +200. Now that we know Robert Whittaker's high take down defense %, can we assume that Jacare is overvalued and his opponent is undervalued?
will see if jacare can take him down, whittaker has 94% take down defense and if he cant get him down whittaker kills him standing.
i like all the dogs
Wilson Reis
Michelle Waterson
Robert Whittaker
In a normal situation i would select the underdogs but betting against the best in the division in Demetrious Johnson is not going to happen for me and Souza would take Robert Whittaker down and finish him as he is not that good on the ground,but Michelle Waterson is an interesting fight and lets see how her preparation would be. Wilson Reis
Michelle Waterson
Robert Whittaker
i like all the dogs
Wilson Reis
Michelle Waterson
Robert Whittaker
Wilson Reis
Michelle Waterson
Robert Whittaker
I think Demetrious Johnson has a huge advantage over Reis, reis is a great BJJ master but I think that is all about it, Johnson can box and if it goes down he can hold his own. Also I am wondering a lot about Michelle she has a great record and seems to be going fort he title, hopefully she does great for the next couple of games.
I think Wilson Reis trains out of Alliance MMA in San Diego with Dominick Cruz.
Wilson Reis is known for having a very good ground game & his wrestling looked very good in his last fight with Yuta Sasaki.
But would have to think Demetrious Johnson will win.
I like a lot of fights on this card. There are a lot of good prospects who are very skilled even if they're relatively unknown.
Wilson Reis is known for having a very good ground game & his wrestling looked very good in his last fight with Yuta Sasaki.
But would have to think Demetrious Johnson will win.
I like a lot of fights on this card. There are a lot of good prospects who are very skilled even if they're relatively unknown.
I don't really follow the Fly Weight division much and Demetrious Johnson already owns the division so there's really no excitement there. The only fight I'm interested in at the main card is Namajunas vs Waterson. I think the Waterson line has a little value.
Demetrious Johnson is a real talent and he does not have any challengers in his division and so is the reason there is no excitement in the division,if he wants a challenge he has to step up a division and face Dominick Cruz or Cody Garbrandt to have any competition ,Ronaldo Souza v Robert Whittaker is another fight where i am sure that Ronaldo Souza will be the winner and i do like these sort of cards where we could find easy fights to wage a bet.Yes. Mighty Mouse is the true #1 pound for pound in UFC right now. He has sweep his division and even beat twice his closest competition(Benavidez). I don't think there's someone who can take the belt from him. So this fight for him is just like going to the office, no real threat. And as what the poster said above me, he should step up the plate and try to avenge his lost to Dominick Cruz.
I don't really follow the Fly Weight division much and Demetrious Johnson already owns the division so there's really no excitement there. The only fight I'm interested in at the main card is Namajunas vs Waterson. I think the Waterson line has a little value.
Demetrious Johnson is a real talent and he does not have any challengers in his division and so is the reason there is no excitement in the division,if he wants a challenge he has to step up a division and face Dominick Cruz or Cody Garbrandt to have any competition ,Ronaldo Souza v Robert Whittaker is another fight where i am sure that Ronaldo Souza will be the winner and i do like these sort of cards where we could find easy fights to wage a bet. 
one of the very few sports that i actually consider valid ! i love the action and on a very rare card will i get offset ! sports booking in my eyes could evolve around UFC only and i would be very fine with that! and thank god for torrents to catch up on the very few bouts i miss!
I don't really follow the Fly Weight division much and Demetrious Johnson already owns the division so there's really no excitement there. The only fight I'm interested in at the main card is Namajunas vs Waterson. I think the Waterson line has a little value.
Here's a video for the event to get you up to speed for the event. Enjoy.
UFC Road to the Octagon: Full Episode
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eq7y64b_S0U
Here's a video for the event to get you up to speed for the event. Enjoy.
UFC Road to the Octagon: Full Episode
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eq7y64b_S0U
Date: Saturday, April 15th
Preliminary Card (UFC Fight Pass): 20:00 BCT / 1pm PST / 4pm EST
Preliminary Card (FOX): 22:00 BCT / 3pm PST / 6pm EST
Main Card (FOX): 00:00 BCT / 5pm PST / 8pm EST
Live Streams: http://firstrowus1.eu/
Main Card (FOX)
Demetrious Johnson (25-2-1) vs. 
Wilson Reis (22-6) (Flyweight Championship)
Rose Namajunas (5-3) vs. Michelle Waterson (14-4) (Women's Strawweight)
Ronaldo Souza (24-4) vs. 
Robert Whittaker (17-4) (Middleweight)
Jeremy Stephens (25-13) vs. Renato Moicano (10-0-1) (Featherweight)
Preliminary Card (FOX)
Alexander Volkov (27-6) vs. Roy Nelson (22-13) (Heavyweight)
Patrick Williams (8-4) vs. 
Tom Duquesnoy (14-1) (Bantamweight)
Bobby Green (23-7) vs. Rashid Magomedov (19-2) (Lightweight)
Tim Elliott (13-7-1) vs. Louis Smolka (11-3) (Flyweight)
Preliminary Card (UFC Fight Pass)
Devin Clark (7-1) vs. Jake Collier (10-3) (Middleweight)
Anthony Smith (26-12) vs. Andrew Sanchez (9-2) (Middleweight)
Aljamain Sterling (12-2) vs. Augusto Mendes (6-1) (Bantamweight)
Zak Cummings (20-5) vs. Nathan Coy (15-6) (Welterweight)
Ashlee Evans-Smith (5-1) vs. Ketlen Vieira (7-0) (Women's Bantamweight)
Thanks to the PuertoRican for letting me use this content.
Preliminary Card (UFC Fight Pass): 20:00 BCT / 1pm PST / 4pm EST
Preliminary Card (FOX): 22:00 BCT / 3pm PST / 6pm EST
Main Card (FOX): 00:00 BCT / 5pm PST / 8pm EST
Live Streams: http://firstrowus1.eu/
Main Card (FOX)
Demetrious Johnson (25-2-1) vs. Wilson Reis (22-6) (Flyweight Championship) Rose Namajunas (5-3) vs. Michelle Waterson (14-4) (Women's Strawweight) Ronaldo Souza (24-4) vs. Robert Whittaker (17-4) (Middleweight) Jeremy Stephens (25-13) vs. Renato Moicano (10-0-1) (Featherweight)Preliminary Card (FOX)
Alexander Volkov (27-6) vs. Roy Nelson (22-13) (Heavyweight) Patrick Williams (8-4) vs. Tom Duquesnoy (14-1) (Bantamweight) Bobby Green (23-7) vs. Rashid Magomedov (19-2) (Lightweight) Tim Elliott (13-7-1) vs. Louis Smolka (11-3) (Flyweight)Preliminary Card (UFC Fight Pass)
Devin Clark (7-1) vs. Jake Collier (10-3) (Middleweight) Anthony Smith (26-12) vs. Andrew Sanchez (9-2) (Middleweight) Aljamain Sterling (12-2) vs. Augusto Mendes (6-1) (Bantamweight) Zak Cummings (20-5) vs. Nathan Coy (15-6) (Welterweight) Ashlee Evans-Smith (5-1) vs. Ketlen Vieira (7-0) (Women's Bantamweight)Thanks to the PuertoRican for letting me use this content.
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