UK planning sliding window lockdown methadology

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Quote from: panganib999 on September 24, 2020, 05:43:55 PM

Sliding window lockdown or simply implementing lockdown just into certain places or regions of the country will be a better way to still continue the recovery phase of the certain country's economy and at the same time doing efforts on how they can control or manage the infected cases. In this way, only those affected areas will be the ones to be restricted while others are continuously functional and productive for the sake of the country's economy. Compromising health for not doing lockdown will create more problem for it will be so hard tracking down infected individuals once they have been roaming around. Both economic and health concerns are important so this methodology of implementing lockdown in UK is a better option and decision to be make for effectiveness have been proven for our country have also doing it in here

Their strategy will be helpful to the slow recovery of their economy. And I guess, this will be good to other countries so people will have other means to survive and not just relying on their government. It will help in opening some of the businesses and returning some of the jobs, which is badly needed by most of its citizens. This virus will exist for long time so we really need to look for options how to tackle this situation at the same time, helping ourselves to get back on our feet.

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Sliding window lockdown or simply implementing lockdown just into certain places or regions of the country will be a better way to still continue the recovery phase of the certain country's economy and at the same time doing efforts on how they can control or manage the infected cases. In this way, only those affected areas will be the ones to be restricted while others are continuously functional and productive for the sake of the country's economy. Compromising health for not doing lockdown will create more problem for it will be so hard tracking down infected individuals once they have been roaming around. Both economic and health concerns are important so this methodology of implementing lockdown in UK is a better option and decision to be make for effectiveness have been proven for our country have also doing it in here

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You do not have to live in UK to know what lockdown is, if you live in a nation that never had lockdown at all, you should be very very scared. I live in a third world country and even here we had lockdown because there was pandemic outside. If people go outside and continue their life that means thousands even tens of thousands of people will die, lockdown is there to prevent it.

The main idea of "lockdown" means you will not go outside, lock is the regular word locking, like locking the door, and down is used like "in" here, meaning people will lock themselves in their homes and not go. Obviously if you need grocery needs or if you use medicine regularly type of stuff would still be available but going out to work or fun or anything that is not absolutely a "must" will not be allowed.

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Can't say I'm surprised. I'm expecting fresh restrictions in Spain and France too with cases spiking so much.

Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on September 22, 2020, 07:02:11 AM

I don't live in the UK, so I'm not exactly sure what "lockdown" means, specifically. What are citizens forced to do, stay in their homes for the period of the lockdown, or are there times when they can travel, and are there restrictions on that....? I'm very curious about that.

This is a pretty extensive FAQ: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-outbreak-faqs-what-you-can-and-cant-do/coronavirus-outbreak-faqs-what-you-can-and-cant-do

Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on September 22, 2020, 07:02:11 AM

In the US, there hasn't been anything like that as far as I know of. I've never been prevented from leaving home, and all of the businesses that I usually frequent have stayed open the entire time that the pandemic has been going on.

I think it has differed quite a lot from state to state. People in rural locales and the midwest probably haven't experienced the same kind of restrictions as people in New York or urban parts of California, when things were at their height.

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^ This decision will never make changes if we are speaking about solving the problem with the pandemic. But economically, the UK probably be able to save, survive, and be back to its feet. However, this method has already been used in our country, but day by day cases are still increasing. It really is hard to fight a battle without seeing your enemy or is there really your enemy. Nevertheless, with the simple lockdown and self quarantine will probably avoid to be infected on the said virus.

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Quote from: beerlover on September 22, 2020, 12:57:43 PM

Well, the idea that some places will be locked down is better than no place is locked down at all. Obviously a better option would be to lock everything and every place down and not to have anything, but we know they won't do that so instead of having zero lockdowns and letting people get sick and die, at least having this version is better so that people would get better with place to place.

This is going to be easier in rural places and places with less population, but the dense places like London for example will be a lot harder, how are you going to lock that many million people down for a period of time? If you can lock London down you could probably lockdown rest of the nation quite easily as well. Hopefully we will see great results from this experiment.

The opposite to that is probably true...

I think denser populated areas are probably easier to lockdown. You've already got a lot of police there.

I know in some rural cases where someone's died and the police have had to appear (either accidental or homicide) and only one or two offices have shown up to detain suspects and collect evidence because no one else can make it to the scene in a tiny village (especially if flooding or something is imminant).

In somewhere like Manchester or London, domestic shouting that leads to police being called by a concerned neighbour can see 5 vehicles and 8 officers on scene within 5 minutes...

Obviously illegal raves are hard to deal with but most big cities are quite well connected so it should be easier for police to respond quickly to each incident.

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If UK is really pretty much concern on raising up a solution to resolve their current issue with regards to the rising numbers of their covid-19 infected patients but still into concern on looking after the process of doing their economic recovery, doing regional and local lockdowns into those places that have the recorded most number of cases being tabulated on a daily basis will be a pretty much good solution instead of doing a nationwide lockdown or not doing at all that might just compromise the health of the people of UK for the government is more into concern of still continuing their economic recovery phase that may set aside the health concern of their country. Changing or modifying the methodology of doing lockdown is a great idea and solution to still raise up the concern on health while dealing with economic recovery for other country's have already done such methodology even my country have done it too, all I can say is it is better to be like than rather than setting a nationwide lockdown that can affect economy or not setting a lockdown that can worsen the health concern of the country.

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Well, the idea that some places will be locked down is better than no place is locked down at all. Obviously a better option would be to lock everything and every place down and not to have anything, but we know they won't do that so instead of having zero lockdowns and letting people get sick and die, at least having this version is better so that people would get better with place to place.

This is going to be easier in rural places and places with less population, but the dense places like London for example will be a lot harder, how are you going to lock that many million people down for a period of time? If you can lock London down you could probably lockdown rest of the nation quite easily as well. Hopefully we will see great results from this experiment.

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Quote from: jackg on September 21, 2020, 06:54:19 AM

This was starting with England but it light be rolled out across the 4 nations as an idea.

Instead of having a full nationwide lockdown, the government seems to intend on locking down certain regions, locking down their southern neighbours and then opening them back up again.

Currently the former cumbric country has been on lockdown (Yorkshire and Lancashire (Inc Manchester) ). I don't know how much this'll achieve (and it seems more foolish than just closing the borders) but I assume it'll at least mean someone's hospital has capacity (whoever has been in lockdown for a while) ?

The title is based off the "sliding window" methadology if you were curious, look it up!

Actually this kind of lockdown methodology was already been implemented here in our country for a certain part of country was just severely affected by the inflation rate of infected case making the lockdown being implemented into this certain region of our country. By this methodology, other regions with low recorded cases or zero recorded cases at all will be still on normal run so the economy will not experience a total stoppage for certain parts are still being productive to work on the economic recovery because on such way, we are targeting two birds on one stone concerning the management on health concern to control the increase of infection rate and at the same time working on with our economy.

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Quote from: jackg on September 21, 2020, 06:54:19 AM

Instead of having a full nationwide lockdown, the government seems to intend on locking down certain regions

UK still experiencing lockdown? I have really opted out my mind in some repulsive news of lockdown especially this sliding window lockdown methodology. There is basically a reason while this elective regional lockdown, mainly because of on stream (running) economy, so as to maintain the stability of substantial productions.
During the massive lockdown, same happened in my country, region of industrial layouts were kept opened while other regions closed down entirely, so basically, I think this lockdown in UK could be the same reason too, so while protecting citizen from virus, production should be running too as well.

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Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on September 22, 2020, 07:02:11 AM

I don't live in the UK, so I'm not exactly sure what "lockdown" means, specifically. What are citizens forced to do, stay in their homes for the period of the lockdown, or are there times when they can travel, and are there restrictions on that....? I'm very curious about that. In the US, there hasn't been anything like that as far as I know of. I've never been prevented from leaving home, and all of the businesses that I usually frequent have stayed open the entire time that the pandemic has been going on. The nonessential shops did close, but now they're reopening.

Is the COVID-19 situation still that bad in the UK? I have to plead ignorance, as I don't watch much news.

Whatever happens in your country, I wish you well and I hope your lockdowns don't last for long. None of us can keep completely safe from anything, no matter how many precautions we take--and some of these mandates are killing the economy and the spirits of people just trying to live normally. My best to everyone in the UK.

I think they just use the term lockdown to discourage people. Afaik the last lockdown limitations were:
only essential workers were able to go to work
some people who couldn't work from home could go to work in some cases
and households weren't really allowed to meet - but that's more of a self policed system so no one's really going to notice.

The police here have a legal obligation to act on the consent of the population so they can't, for example, try splitting up families unless they think that wouldn't be "unpopular" . And if they've done it themselves too they can't really expect others to not...

Quote from: Jet Cash on September 22, 2020, 05:56:58 AM

Never mind sliding windows, defenestration of parliament would be far more effective.

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And yeah it is a problem to keep the borders closed for tourism and services.
And it probably is too little too late. They should've started this in July. But they already had half the population within August.

Also, they're obviously vhsjcjng test results to see if the lockdown as a success or not, they're not just going to reopen everything with a large amount of infections...

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I don't live in the UK, so I'm not exactly sure what "lockdown" means, specifically. What are citizens forced to do, stay in their homes for the period of the lockdown, or are there times when they can travel, and are there restrictions on that....? I'm very curious about that. In the US, there hasn't been anything like that as far as I know of. I've never been prevented from leaving home, and all of the businesses that I usually frequent have stayed open the entire time that the pandemic has been going on. The nonessential shops did close, but now they're reopening.

Is the COVID-19 situation still that bad in the UK? I have to plead ignorance, as I don't watch much news.

Whatever happens in your country, I wish you well and I hope your lockdowns don't last for long. None of us can keep completely safe from anything, no matter how many precautions we take--and some of these mandates are killing the economy and the spirits of people just trying to live normally. My best to everyone in the UK.

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This can be great if the people ok UK is participating well because in my country, its been 6 months and until now we are on a community quarantine but since the people is not listening to the government, the infected cases still rising and it looks like we are back to normal.

The quarantine or lockown is useless if people is still not participating and not scared of getting infected. UK is a rich country, I'm sure they can survive even if they lockdown some of the area, let's all hope for the best and hope for the end of this Covid-19.

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Quote from: fiulpro on September 22, 2020, 05:34:59 AM

Because even if they open them after a while , what would be reason of shutting them down in the first place ?

I don't think the regions will be opened up just a while after they are shut, imo they are going to be shut till the government can see any desired improvement in the number of new covid-19 cases, it makes no sense to close particular regions to contain the spread of the virus and then open them up when there are no positive changes.

Quote from: boyptc on September 22, 2020, 01:35:35 AM

I'm curious as to why what kind of lockdown is that. But I think that will be the same as what other countries will do for certain regions or cities or municipalities.

It is, at least in my own country, it is already counter productive to just lockdown every region in the country, both areas with very few covid-19 cases and the worst hit regions, this lockdown method is prolly the best imo, to contain the virus and to make sure the economy of the country is also still functioning.

Quote from: Oasisman on September 22, 2020, 06:13:07 AM

I doubt the effectivity of this lockdown method, when the most relevant method to contain the spread of the virus is to close the borders and prohibit any foreign and non-resident entry.

This method was used earlier, and most countries cannot continue with it, especially countries that are reliant on tourism. That being said, I don't think there's any country whose borders is completely open to foreigners, they are allowing foreigners only based on tourism and essential reasons and they still have to abide by the covid-19 protocols. Closing borders again completely will make the economy worse than it already is.

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Quote from: jackg on September 21, 2020, 06:54:19 AM

Instead of having a full nationwide lockdown, the government seems to intend on locking down certain regions

China has been doing that since the beginning of the pandemic, and if you look at Europe as a whole, the lockdown has been different per region too.

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I'd call it "rolling lockdowns", just like there are "rolling blackouts" when needed.
The main benefit is to keep a large part of your economy running, but it's probably too late if the virus has spread to all regions already.

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I doubt the effectivity of this lockdown method, when the most relevant method to contain the spread of the virus is to close the borders and prohibit any foreign and non-resident entry. But as far as the economic state is on the line, governments would risk to find some alternatives to ease the economic crisis even if it means it could increase the chances of spreading the virus.
All countries from around the globe came up with a lot of "lockdown" terms and methods, but I guess non of them is considered to be effective.

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Never mind sliding windows, defenestration of parliament would be far more effective.

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This is just the modification of the method that was used in Delhi where there were regions and zones according to the severity of the disease and infection. Certain zones were open whereas some of them were fully closed.

More like an Adaptive Method of Lockdown needs to be implemented in these regions.

What England is trying to do is the same thing , but they have a big pot hole in this method , they intend to open those high alert areas again , whereas in my opinion they have to make sure there areas are closed until and unless the situation improves.

Because even if they open them after a while , what would be reason of shutting them down in the first place ?

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Every country is trying to recover its economy as the lockdown has eased commerce ministry officials say the uk is now enjoying duty-free and quota-free trade if fta is done they will have to benefit from the same number of products as europe will benefit from. As a result, such an agreement should not be approached while the gsp facility is in force vietnam is moving towards free trade with the european union in this way the competing country will get trade facilities in europe this will go a long way in overcoming the uk's sliding window lockdown methodology.

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I'm curious as to why what kind of lockdown is that. But I think that will be the same as what other countries will do for certain regions or cities or municipalities.

I think they resort to this type to resume the economy despite the bad situation due to this virus.

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Quote from: jackg on September 21, 2020, 06:54:19 AM

This was starting with England but it light be rolled out across the 4 nations as an idea.

Instead of having a full nationwide lockdown, the government seems to intend on locking down certain regions, locking down their southern neighbours and then opening them back up again.

Currently the former cumbric country has been on lockdown (Yorkshire and Lancashire (Inc Manchester) ). I don't know how much this'll achieve (and it seems more foolish than just closing the borders) but I assume it'll at least mean someone's hospital has capacity (whoever has been in lockdown for a while) ?

The title is based off the "sliding window" methadology if you were curious, look it up!

Number of cases is expected to hit 50K per day in the mid October so they can't really get any benefits of using this strategy, it should e better to close down the borders as soon as possible to stop the spreading and need to take tests for more people as much as they can to find infected people and treat them in the right time.

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Quote from: jackg on September 21, 2020, 06:54:19 AM

This was starting with England but it light be rolled out across the 4 nations as an idea.

Instead of having a full nationwide lockdown, the government seems to intend on locking down certain regions, locking down their southern neighbours and then opening them back up again.

Currently the former cumbric country has been on lockdown (Yorkshire and Lancashire (Inc Manchester) ). I don't know how much this'll achieve (and it seems more foolish than just closing the borders) but I assume it'll at least mean someone's hospital has capacity (whoever has been in lockdown for a while) ?

The title is based off the "sliding window" methadology if you were curious, look it up!

@jackg so it’s happening even after Boris said that he’s not in favour of second lockdown, they’re yet opting for a partial lockdown and this will definitely have an impact on UK’s economy. Also I’m not sure if it’ll work and you’re right that this does seem difficult to implement, but let’s hope for the best and let’s pray that they can implement this partial lockdown without harming the economy.

Boris had said no for second lockdown: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5276451

Read More: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/second-lockdown-coronavirus-wave-new-rules-restrictions-boris-johnson-update-b512048.html

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This was starting with England but it light be rolled out across the 4 nations as an idea.

Instead of having a full nationwide lockdown, the government seems to intend on locking down certain regions, locking down their southern neighbours and then opening them back up again.

Currently the former cumbric country has been on lockdown (Yorkshire and Lancashire (Inc Manchester) ). I don't know how much this'll achieve (and it seems more foolish than just closing the borders) but I assume it'll at least mean someone's hospital has capacity (whoever has been in lockdown for a while) ?

The title is based off the "sliding window" methadology if you were curious, look it up!

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