Topic: Ukrainian revolution ask for support in Bitcoin ! (Read 7328 times)

>picture taken today
>snow, winter jackets
>happening early 2014
>currently summer in Kiev
>2015

Lol u so fat brah.

Not that I know of? However I hope nobody donated due to the risk.

I think we all agreed that this was scam ? or is it not

That's the punishment some people get for just trying to be good human beings, unfortunately. :/

Indeed it takes a lot of time and serious changes to weed out of bribing, corruption, etc. In some places it has been so thoroughly ingrained in the culture that it becomes expected, and if you do not "play the game" you are viewed as a sucker for not taking what you can (or could have.)

I am planning to donate for well-known charities, who run large number of orphanages. Regarding some of the scams which you are referring to, I have first hand experience myself.

Nobody who has lived for 10 or 20 years as a poor citizen will be immune to greed and corruption when he gets into office.
It's human nature , only a few (if any ) will be able to resist. It will take a long time for the ruling side to change and this won't be done with just a "revolution".

What I think is needed is a strong leader or a strong leader group that are all non-corruptible, then those needs to lead a strong organization that leads a revolution, and then inserts a new non-corruptible government. And then the pressure needs to be applied and upheld at all times, and checks and balances needs to be introduces, but it's a gigantic task - and there will always be people who lust for more power and control, and then it will be unrest within. So what to do, is it really solvable at all? Will education solve it, because it makes for more civilized humans, or are we forever doomed to see the most cynic savages run most countries?

Be careful to which you donate. I've seen countless scams , and my country is one leading the pack.

I am waiting for the day when Bitcoin makes me a millionaire. I will donate a large part of my jackpot to charity. If there are charities accepting BTC, then they will be my first choice.

It's completely horrible. But this is only one of several stories around the world. Life's are ruined everery day around the globe. While I or anyone else as a private person could help somehow, just a little, it would infact maybe save a life or two, but on a larger scale - what's needed to be done is that we as a world-community divert our resources from millitary spending to humanitary operations.

If we wanted to, we could save not only thousands, but millions of lives, all over the globe. And it's not enough for ordinary citizens to act. Governments must act.

But it will never happen, because the human race is a greedy race, exploiting both each other and natural resources. Even though perhaps most people are peaceful, it's always those psychopaths going over corpses and doing whatever they see necessary that goes into power positions. Those kind of people would happily pull the trigger and kill a thousand innocent lives in a distant country without thinking twice about it, then going home and eat dinner with their wife and kiss their children goodnight.

If I help a stray dog in Romania, there will be a child left out in Uganda, if I help an orphan in Ukraine, there will be an abandoned chiled left somewhere in China. If I help some elderly couple in Zimbabwe, there will be an aids ridden prostitute woman in Moscow dying and leaving 3 children behind.

The fact is that no matter what I do, it barely helps anything - I cannot save the world, and neither can you. Governments need to act in this regard, and they do - but they could've done a lot more.

The human race as a whole is in a pittyful state. But yet, the world is more peaceful now than it's ever been.

Wars are becoming less frequent. Life expectancy has more than doubled in the past century. More children than ever are going to primary school. The world is better than it has ever been.

Here's some words form Bill Gates:
http://www.wired.com/2013/11/bill-gates-wired-essay/

If I were as rich as Bill Gates, I could do something that really had an impact.

Truth is however that most normal people don't have much money at all. Some can't even pay the bills from month to month. And yet they're lucky compared to many other people in the world.

Lets' hope that one day there will be peace everywhere, and everyone will have enough food and resources to have a good life. But it's not going to happen - ever. Unfortunately.

Politics is only about power. And humans lives in that regard is nothing.

Please read this to educate yourself more about Unethical human experimentation in the Unites States:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unethical_human_experimentation_in_the_United_States

It would be naive to think that stuff like this is still not going on several places around the world, not only by the USG, but also conduted by other nations states.

And the sad thing is that even in the most civilized countries, positions of powers are often awarded to friends and goes in the family. In the less cililized countries it's much worse, and no matter who's ruling it's most of the time corruption-time.

As the saying goes:

"Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely."

I have no idea how it all can be solved. The best thing we can do is to put in place some kind of oversight, and multiple organizations that oversee each other, but no matter what kind of rules and regulations you impose, you cannot have nature of man squashed.

There are many politicians who have one face when talking to the media and public, and another face when doing the real deals.

I think the main dilemma lies in the fact that people seeking to reach top political positions are not 'normal' people. Those people have a certain desire for attention and power, of course there might be some people who are legitimate concerned for the well being of the population, but once they get acclimatized and gets into the churning political mill and see what they can actually have and do, they tend to forget their good intentions and become rather lazy. I'm not saying this goes for everyone, but I've seen plenty of examples of it.

Go to any parliament building in the world and check for yourself if everything is not top notch, nice furniture, art on the walls, nice floors, nice dining area, and over all clean, nice and the best facilities available. And then check the pensions of the top politicians, check their net worth, check their connections and their friends.

What you will find is that those people have both power and money, and they largely look after themselves. Whenever they need attention due to a medical issue, they get first in the que at a specialized hospital for the rich, or flown to another country for treatment if their home country does not have the required expertise and facilities.

While many elderly suffer under bad care, or get no care at all, and while many school children suffer from bad conditions at their schoo, old buildings etc. or no schooling at all, it would be unheard of if any parliament or government would have to suffer from the same conditions.

It's a they vs. us mentality. And US always comes first.

http://www.inquisitr.com/400073/the-worlds-poorest-president-jose-mujica-lives-in-a-shack-with-1800-to-his-name/

^This is a man to be followed. He lives in a shack. Not saying that every president should do that, but my question is:

Are you better suited to lead a country if you live in a modest cabin as compared to living in a palace that costs a shitload of money to maintain?

Every time some nation head goes to another country, there's a lot of fuss with lots of police and military involved, and very grandeur ceremonies etc. What does all of this convey to the people in a country? Those in power are das übermench, they're better than you and me, and they deserve much better than you and me.

Let them talk about sustainable development, while they burn fossil fuel fist over hand, fly private jets and in general is very hostile to the environment.

Showing some modesty, and genuinely showing that they care about the people in their country is what I think is needed. On that account, perhaps being a career politician should be banned altogether, as those people often live in a dream world and does not know what life's really about.

At the same time perhaps those very politicians should work on the floor for a couple of years to really see what it's about, and those not wanting to do that really is no fit for an office job. It shows whether they're interested in genuinely sacrificing anything, or if they're just luxury animals, removed from the real world.

In conclusion what I see is that those most cynical will always gravitate towards power positions, and then there's always a lineup of new cynicals eager to take over their position. It's a never ending battle.

How much did the Arab Spring protests really change ? I'm not too familiar with that subject but did it change much at all, isn't it the same as always most places, only with new faces in the old positions?

I can't save the world, and neither can you, but we might of course donate to some cause and feel good about it, and it might actually make a difference as well. Governments however and rich corporations and rich organizations and individuals can do much more, and some are doing great things.

If all acted in concert for the concern of the greater good, it would be a much better world - but too many people are very selfish and greedy, and in a powerful position those people can destroy more than 10 million normal people can do good.

Sorry about the off topic rant.

Exactly, charity should be sent to already established organizations, not to some random people asking for Bitcoins with no guarantee where the money will go.

http://atimes.com/atimes/World/WOR-02-140214.html


Does anyone know of somewhere where I can read about a breakdown about how this money has been spent? I assume no such thing exists?

But obviously the conflict is complex, it would be a full time job to keep up with everything.

There is a nice way to help poor Ukrainians. Just donate money or necessary items to the Ukrainian orphanages. Do you know how many orphans end up as street children in Ukraine just because the orphanages doesn't have the needed resources?



The girl in the above picture died a week after she was photographed. She was just 13 years old. Her name was Yana and the place of death was Odessa, Ukraine.

Not necessarily - it's not uncommon to do self donations first, so it appears people are giving.

1.) There are a lot of scams where people take advantage of others' generosity during disasters and crises, as others have alluded to already.

2.) Even if this is legit, you are talking about an area that has been rife with corruption so frankly... even if the money goes to "the right place" what are the odds that it won't just end up in some government official's pocket?

Someone posted a thread on here a couple weeks ago showing that people were selling the aid packages delivered to Ukraine online.

Well, I can only say this:

I feel for the people in Ukraine affected by this, and I feel sorry for anyone that got injured and died, that should not happen.

As for the collecting of funds, we know that there's a lot of smart and selfish people out there, so it's not easy to know who to donate to, who's legit and who's not - hard to know.

For example:

http://helpeuromaidan.info/donate#

About 20 btc donated:

https://blockchain.info/address/1MvkidNwrEga5Q6XXeD8ksGrZ1WzMo4qbW

I feel bad about questioning anyone asking for donations for this cause, but as we know every time there's some big catastrophe or something triggering a donation need, there's always sharks around.

Some more background:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euromaidan

Total Received: 2.55001982 BTC

WTF? Who are the idiots who wasted this much money. The bitcoin address probably didn't had anything to do with the Ukrainian protests. I don't even think that the owner of the address was from Ukraine.

It looks like a 100% scam. No proof no nothing.

doesn't seem like it's photshopped though..

This is possibly a scammer. This thread started with claims of photoshopping of a photography, donators beware.

nice!

https://blockchain.info/address/1AKEi5Xrgmu4p6C2K7Udn9Bb5WQA18rw71

gathred over 2BTC, good job donators

Disclaimer: I have not done any thorough investigation of this, do your own before donating anything.

I haven't checked it detail, but apparently here's a livestream from Kiev:


http://www.ustream.tv/channel/euromajdan


And here's their donation page:


http://ukrstream.tv/donate#.U06KO3WSzko

It's a non-clickable link to the url above from the live feed.

And the bitcoin donation address is:

https://blockchain.info/address/1LwdJCR7qTDyE17goADf7E66ynoTWdqxVj

This is what their donation page says when translated with google from ukrainian to english:

Prague? Visit Florens in Prague or any other place. We dont take care for our heritage, we only build fucking skyscrapers for banks whose arses we lick. IMA BTC THEM TO DEATH

That is fair enough

Well, I guess everything simmered down for a while... until the Russian government decides to "fix" the situation in Ukraine.

I agree with you, it's not the policemans fault..
altough they should join the protestors because the nation is paying them, not anyone else..

and then they should do that again and again and again again, until there is 1 state for each person and each person is the sovereign ruler of his or her own state

if its a good idea in principal because different groups of people have different ideas about how their lives should be run, well that doesnt just apply to groups of people, every single individual has differences in opinion about how their own life should be run. that principal that you discribed can be extended all the way to the individual and it should be.

You do realise that kind of shit is exactly what the people in power want right? I wouldn't be surprised if there were provocateur's hiding amongst the protesters like in some protests we've seen in America who deliberately shoot at the police and army to get the protesters killed, as I poke around I'm getting more suspicious of what's going on in the Ukraine now, good news is though not all the police and army units are falling for this crap and are either keeping their distance or joining the protesters instead.

http://www.euronews.com/2014/02/20/police-and-vigilantes-join-forces-in-ukrainian-city-of-lviv/

Another peace deal.... For how long this will stand?

I found this livestream from Maydan, watch it live guys, see what is going on there yourself:

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/euromaydan-falcon

Well, we, in Lithuania, have already fought our fight during the USSR occupation so I guess were kind of excempt from that sentence, right? Guess I can only wish good luck and so that the problems would be solved with the least possible amount of violence.

well i cant support these guys specifically since this is just cold war nonsense with the west trying to conquer russian vassal states and make them into western vassal states but I LOVE the idea. if there was ever a real revolution than bitcoin qr codes could fund it and I could totally get behind it. you could plaster qr codes on EVERY building face. pass out stencils and spray pant to every man and woman.

I live near Ukrainian border. I Wonder if this madness will end soon or maybe it will spread across whole eastern europe.

a little ?







http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5bUM4C7fWY

The situation is FAR, FAR more complex than you think. I've been following it for about a month now. For starters, the protesters have been peacefully protesting for about 2 months prior to the escalation of violence that happened around January. The first major news of violence and property damage have been the result of the government-planted thugs known as Titushki, who are paid USD by  the govt to pretend to be part of the protests to stir shit up to discredit the activists.

Second, the protesters did not turn violent (and by violent I mean throwing rocks and molotovs, not shooting guns) until the cops began to shoot them with rubber bullets and beat them with clubs (this started happening about a month ago when this whole story got major traction). At about the same time, stories began to emerge about cops and riot police capturing key activist leaders, torturing them and killing them. Their bodies were later found in the woods with signs of torture.

 Third, the protesters have not used any firearms until the police began killing dozens of people yesterday. And even then, only a few protesters are currently known to have weapons, only because they are being forced to by the fact that the government forces have begun indiscriminately  killing protesters with live ammunition yesterday.

TLDR: the government decided to crack down violently on these originally-peaceful protests. The protesters are just now responding in kind. The government wanted to kill people, now they have a civil war on their hands and they're responsible.

edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DxkDiAcSF8  here's what the police are doing. The protesters in the video are unarmed, all they have is riot shields for protection and they're being shot at. You can also notice at least one person (kid in blue helmet at about 1:49) being shot and killed.

Well... then don't shoot at the policemen. You attack the police and what do you expect in return? garlands?

all those extremist will be the same as pictured b4.

They think that the EU is like heaven, but its not.
They think they fight for freedom, but they are better off now.

In the EU are lots of people who wants to go out the EU.

In the Netherlands, there was a referendum for the constitution of the EU, then named "Verdrag van Maastricht".
Most of the dutch people voted a full NO.

Then our government changed the name of the constitution in "Verdrag van Lissabon" (yeah just another city, same constitution) and they agreed with the EU, against the will of the dutch people.

Now we are trapped. Now the formal rich countries in the EU are paying for the poor countries.
Social facilities are decreasing and we face a lot of new silly rules.

They better stay with Poetin.....

Live in center of Ukraine....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_LFrMcoEm4#t=1349978

Almost half of those who died in Kiev were policemen.

Latest news from Kiev:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hYvM_aIc4Y

u guys should just divide the land make smaller states and thats it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1akiJwguto
Center of Kiev is on fire...link live steam tv http://ukrstream.tv/
Send them .3 poor people in this country...
https://blockchain.info/ru/tx/75f3f307d98c83debe3c0d43b1cff8fc830375101f796cde2314b1605c9b873c

I won't pay if I don't know what my money will be spent on. Simple as that.

those are some fucked up pictures coming from Kiev.

pffffttt... well there are smart people in this world I guess they want bitcoin for their own needs not for fighting.. or smth like that

The situation there is getting "a little" out of control in my opinion.

I'll consider donating

Wtf is that pile of dirt they are posted on?  Honestly I can't tell if this is photoshoped or not...

My friend from Kiev told me that spoke to the guards on the Maidan due to different addresses to help the poster, they said that the firm that printed the poster was wrong or changed more special address in qr code, and that they address only 1AKEi5Xrgmu4p6C2K7Udn9Bb5WQA18rw71, I'm glad that my donation will not get tricky printing company
ps

wow

these guys gathered 2.1 Bitcoins, nice

I should do this if there are some protests here

It is really bad for everyone involved, but it has to be done.
I think it is bad to liek those kinda thing, but i do.
Good luck to them and hope that God watches them.

Come and visit - you will be able to form your own opinion

BTW, you realize that this is a photo from a barricade - not from a tourist folder?

Lots of talk about whether the actual picture is fake, didn't anyone consider
the fact that these people might just be using the "revolution" to get some free cash?
What makes you think they'll use the fundings for something that has anything to do
with the revolution itself?
#Skeptical 

Are there any legitimate ways of donating?

Not sent them, but spent on shit dancing around. Mostly money was stolen. But yes, some small amount payed for flaming revolutionaries (every fighter for freedom costs from US $70 one day ) .

I am from Kiev, and its true.

Fuck US and fuck all idiotic helpers.
You try to help to highbinders which destroy my home to get your money.

  

They need BTC? i wonder how they spent the 5 Billion the US State department sent them.  See details in link below:

http://atimes.com/atimes/World/WOR-02-140214.html

Its true i was sent there.

More support is coming
https://blockchain.info/address/1AKEi5Xrgmu4p6C2K7Udn9Bb5WQA18rw71

All this ryvolutionaires get everyday payment for their revolutionism.  Guess who pay. 

Can it is simple a mistake, I sent on 1AKEi5Xrgmu4p6C2K7Udn9Bb5WQA18rw71

Photoshop, scam.

BTW, I am from Ukraine. Fuck this revolution. Fuck the US, Shwarzneiger and Cluni, trying to make another Syria here.

Someone supporting still them ^)
https://blockchain.info/address/1AKEi5Xrgmu4p6C2K7Udn9Bb5WQA18rw71

Rather have good people that fight for their rights than your beautiful American environment with apathetic population.

Someone is supportin this gays )
https://blockchain.info/address/1AKEi5Xrgmu4p6C2K7Udn9Bb5WQA18rw71

Not all places, Prague for instance is lovely, but you can find an abundance of shitholes around eastern europe yes.

here is real qr previous post was truly photoshopped:


or maybe the sign printing guys made mistake and put other qr to redirect donations

I saw this photo at russian forum
https://forum.btcsec.com/index.php?/topic/5245-ukrainskii-maidan-prosit-pomoschi-v-btc/

and who do You think put it there? ;>

Photoshopped fake, saw this picture somewhere on the internet with other banner.

There seems to be a revolution in the Ukraine ever other year or so

Foto shooted today be my friend,the qr code that i provided in my post i take from blockchain (right up conner)

How do we know that you didn't just photoshop this? C'mon...

Petr_Koshevoy can you post where you got this picture?

From a news article?

Sad that we have to be careful of scammers, but it looks totally legit.  

One other major problem:  When I first loaded this thread, the QR code you posted was completely different than the one on their sign.

After a couple refreshes, it now matches the one on the sign.   i swear I was not seeing things.

People please be careful that you don't scan the QR code posted above, unless it matches what you see on the sign.

If it doesnt match, try refreshing the thread.   *twilight zone music playing*

a difficult time for people, perhaps also uphold

https://blockchain.info/tx/af98390c89eea6ecc7991e789121498d8e2d99c20ea18bb0c57173a12bbd7334
ps
Arnold Schwarzenegger sends a message to the Ukrainian people
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zrqcB934Qk

FTFY; I think they are fighting political injustice rather than discrimination against their sexual orientation.

Blockchain.info is reporting address not yet seen in network.

1AKEi5Xrgmu4p6C2K7Udn9Bb5WQA18rw71
https://blockchain.info/address/1AKEi5Xrgmu4p6C2K7Udn9Bb5WQA18rw71
https://scontent-a-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1/1507949_1375720272694965_392256705_n.jpg
yes its correct, i will send some btc for them too! i like this gays !

Can't scan the QR code even when corrected in an image editing program.

Is it the address: 1AKEi5Xrgmu4p6C2K7Udn98b5WQA18rw71?

Ukrainian revolution ask for support in Bitcoin !
Picture shooted today.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/t31/1795185_1375698199363839_1111014852_o.jpg