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Quote from: husdemba on March 24, 2022, 02:21:47 AM

Everyone wants to help Ukraine, but the way is to be more formal. It's pretty easy to exploit people's emotions. Unfortunately, cryptocurrencies can be captured by malicious people, so we should donate to official places.

Although the account of the OP was registered in November last year, his rank was still a newbie with no positive feedback. That makes it hard for someone to trust him because there are so many scammers that use the name Ukraine. They can also create a token which name is related to donation, wars, etc but they are fake and the one that will benefit the most is the creator of this coin.

Other than scammers, hackers are also active on here. Even if we donate only to the official addresses, a crypto that is in their possession can still be hacked and I think they are being targeted right now by the hackers because they know that those addresses hold a ton of money.

Right, a newbie account even the user isn’t a active member in the forum, and i see posted same thing an everyday, so that there are no way believe such users, because we can't find out anything real, so many scammers around in the site who can easily create a token and will try to raise fund as like using name of Ukraine. People’s already donated a few millions of dollars for Ukraine and it’s happened officially.

Of course, what is the noble intention that op does need to be appreciated as well as possible, but we know that in almost every conflict there will be a lot of fundraising for this purpose, which requires transparency and caution, because it can be misused and accommodated by those who are not for that purpose. .
Therefore, it is better to raise funds by institutions that are already known and recognized and can certainly reach their goals. to remember that good intentions will not always have a positive impact if done in the wrong way. #PEACE

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Quote from: CaVO32 on March 28, 2022, 07:20:32 PM

First and foremost, we need to know how legit things are here? Is the OP telling truthful things or just wanna ride the hype surrounding this war? He should give us reliable links but til then, he can always collaborate with right people within his community. He can ask for expertise of his friends, colleagues or family that can help him on this endeavor. But if he will just create another token dedicating to the Ukranian currency without solid backing, I don't think this will go somewhere.

Yes, the ambiguity in the OP makes us have skepticism about the legitimacy of the project this person mentioned. Today the market is full of illegal projects being created, so never trust anyone for advice. Of course, we need it, but we also need to reflect on whether it is really easy. I've heard many things in the lives of people who are related to each other and cheat each other for their own benefit. Sometimes we don't realize that our greed is harming us. Hopefully, OP will soon realize what's right for him/her and also wish the people around him/her will soon overcome the current difficulties.

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Quote from: timerland on March 28, 2022, 06:59:41 PM

You can probably whip up a token like this quite easily.

I'd say that the technology side isn't that bad, but what you do need to think about is both the tokenomics and the government side of things.

E.g. how are you going to ensure that the token will retain its value when the actual fiat is worthless? And how are you sure that this will be propagated and massively adopted within Ukraine when so many things are happening at once?

First and foremost, we need to know how legit things are here? Is the OP telling truthful things or just wanna ride the hype surrounding this war? He should give us reliable links but til then, he can always collaborate with right people within his community. He can ask for expertise of his friends, colleagues or family that can help him on this endeavor. But if he will just create another token dedicating to the Ukranian currency without solid backing, I don't think this will go somewhere.

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Quote from: LibertyOTC on March 16, 2022, 08:16:42 AM

... Can someone give me any tip?

I'm not sure if the information you say is true or not, but let's see the real problem. Today, many people are selling their conscience when they are ready to take advantage of it to make money with the problems that appear in their lives. society. I don't know what you've been thinking about investing in. We have tons of potential altcoins in this market, and if you want to contribute to the government, then contact the support agencies directly. In a chaotic place like Ukraine right now, it's always best to research whatever news you hear.

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You can probably whip up a token like this quite easily.

I'd say that the technology side isn't that bad, but what you do need to think about is both the tokenomics and the government side of things.

E.g. how are you going to ensure that the token will retain its value when the actual fiat is worthless? And how are you sure that this will be propagated and massively adopted within Ukraine when so many things are happening at once?

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Quote from: tbterryboy on March 25, 2022, 02:51:18 PM

Quote from: husdemba on March 24, 2022, 02:21:47 AM

Everyone wants to help Ukraine, but the way is to be more formal. It's pretty easy to exploit people's emotions. Unfortunately, cryptocurrencies can be captured by malicious people, so we should donate to official places.

Although the account of the OP was registered in November last year, his rank was still a newbie with no positive feedback. That makes it hard for someone to trust him because there are so many scammers that use the name Ukraine. They can also create a token which name is related to donation, wars, etc but they are fake and the one that will benefit the most is the creator of this coin.

Other than scammers, hackers are also active on here. Even if we donate only to the official addresses, a crypto that is in their possession can still be hacked and I think they are being targeted right now by the hackers because they know that those addresses hold a ton of money.

Right, a newbie account even the user isn’t a active member in the forum, and i see posted same thing an everyday, so that there are no way believe such users, because we can't find out anything real, so many scammers around in the site who can easily create a token and will try to raise fund as like using name of Ukraine. People’s already donated a few millions of dollars for Ukraine and it’s happened officially.

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Quote from: husdemba on March 24, 2022, 02:21:47 AM

Everyone wants to help Ukraine, but the way is to be more formal. It's pretty easy to exploit people's emotions. Unfortunately, cryptocurrencies can be captured by malicious people, so we should donate to official places.

Although the account of the OP was registered in November last year, his rank was still a newbie with no positive feedback. That makes it hard for someone to trust him because there are so many scammers that use the name Ukraine. They can also create a token which name is related to donation, wars, etc but they are fake and the one that will benefit the most is the creator of this coin.

Other than scammers, hackers are also active on here. Even if we donate only to the official addresses, a crypto that is in their possession can still be hacked and I think they are being targeted right now by the hackers because they know that those addresses hold a ton of money.

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Quote from: LibertyOTC on March 16, 2022, 08:16:42 AM

Well I'm a Ukrainian living in Europe with actually lot of my family still in Ukraine...
Well the Ukrainian currency (hrivna) actually worths nothing and people is having big problems to get supplies and those who wanna escape finds that it's like they don't have money so I developed a crytotoken for using it as a virtual grivna that could be exchanged for other mayor tokens like BNB,USDT...

Well the mayor of my ukrainian city is a childhood friend and told him about the project.... He actually encourages it and fully support me.... Can someone give me any tip?
Actually the token will have a small "tax " that will be used for supporting Ukrainian government.
I would be really happy if people can actually help me a bit with that ))

Looks like you are really a Big Asset of crypto because the very first post you created here in forum (after the account creation) is this and asking for Big trade of BTC to Fiat?

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and Now here you are seeking to create a crypto for Ukrainian to use? hope that you'll find the best result but please be aware that there are tons of scammers that will take advantage of Ukraine situation .

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Everyone wants to help Ukraine, but the way is to be more formal. It's pretty easy to exploit people's emotions. Unfortunately, cryptocurrencies can be captured by malicious people, so we should donate to official places.

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Quote from: Silberman on March 23, 2022, 06:34:25 PM

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Quote from: ryzaadit on March 18, 2022, 01:53:34 PM

Sorry, I'm not buying this scheme.

IMO, in crypto while there has some situations like this. Some shitty person like scammer taken advantage like open Donation while the fund can't be traceable + not really guarantee at all the fund will be send.

If people want to donate, it's better to use verified company/government fund raising address rather than personal.

We should always take care with dealing on those fake projects, we all know how scammers works and they will really take advantage of the situation, I will not buy on this kind of scheme as well. I know its good to donate through cryptocurrency but as much as possible, always donate on a legit organizations because those are the one who really works and do their purpose.

One of the main purposes of bitcoin has been to cut the middleman out of your transactions, whether that middleman is a bank or a charity organization it is way better to deal directly with those that need your money in order to reduce costs, creating a coin for something like this is completely unnecessary, if we want to donate money to those that are in need at Ukraine then the best way is to do so directly to those people or to send it to the government, instead of adding an additional project there which will do no nothing but absorb resources which are needed by those affected by the war.

During these times, it is indeed hard to trust people because they can always say something.
But the usual truth is, they will just use the situation for their personal gain.
Creating project is not easy as it entails a lot of hard work, funds and patience.
If he is just aiming for quick money, better not pursue what he's thinking.
We don't need another crap project trying to milk out the situation.

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Quote from: crzy on March 20, 2022, 05:43:28 PM

Quote from: ryzaadit on March 18, 2022, 01:53:34 PM

Sorry, I'm not buying this scheme.

IMO, in crypto while there has some situations like this. Some shitty person like scammer taken advantage like open Donation while the fund can't be traceable + not really guarantee at all the fund will be send.

If people want to donate, it's better to use verified company/government fund raising address rather than personal.

We should always take care with dealing on those fake projects, we all know how scammers works and they will really take advantage of the situation, I will not buy on this kind of scheme as well. I know its good to donate through cryptocurrency but as much as possible, always donate on a legit organizations because those are the one who really works and do their purpose.

One of the main purposes of bitcoin has been to cut the middleman out of your transactions, whether that middleman is a bank or a charity organization it is way better to deal directly with those that need your money in order to reduce costs, creating a coin for something like this is completely unnecessary, if we want to donate money to those that are in need at Ukraine then the best way is to do so directly to those people or to send it to the government, instead of adding an additional project there which will do no nothing but absorb resources which are needed by those affected by the war.

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Quote from: LibertyOTC on March 17, 2022, 03:54:03 AM

It's actually just an idea....that's why I'm asking for help since I have not much experience about how we should focus that....maybe someone with a bit of experience on this can actually give any advice so we can be successful with that.... Actually if everything goes well, we are interested in starting locally since here there are lot of people from my city....
So, what so you guys think?

Thanks in advance!)

Is the mayor going to support your token financaly or ..? because it will cost you a fair amount of money if you want it to get traded on exchanges.

btw why are you going through all this hassle ? why wouldn't a simple website with a donation link work ?

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Can you share me the white paper for the project !Where is the announcement thread for the project.You should start this with all the details which I had asked you. Simply saying this or that doesn't plays here. All the people here are clear with the scam projects.It's look like a new way scamming.When the crypto analysist get through with your whitepaper. It's quite enough to say the project is real of fake.No one inverse on any coin, unless he had verified the data mentioned with the proof.

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I think you should have framework how your plan token will works and how it can help Ukrainians despite of the situation, so that devs here in forum can give some suggestions as well.

Btw i'm wondering why still need to put tax if the purpose of your token is to help Ukrainians? And as far as i know its not yet regulated, correct me if i'm wrong..

However for me IMO i will choose bitcoin and ethereum since it's already legal in Ukraine rather than new token because it will take too long before you can use compare to bitcoin.. Jus imagine.

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Quote from: Doell on March 20, 2022, 05:44:17 PM

Actually your idea is not bad however, unfortunately we already have cryptocurrencies that are good option, safe and have the advantage of holding them. That's is bitcoin, which you and your citizens can use anytime especially your family on there besides bitcoin has been accepted in many countries including your country @OP. By The way I'm sorry a little unsure of your statement that you want to create a token and ask for help tip to start it, I'm a little worried.

Well said, and if the same initiative is taken by the government it looks to be fair and trusted than what is being done by a group of Ukranian living in Europe. OP have got interest as well as well connected with the mayor, so he can try to brief and make the government do this. As Ukraine is already Crypto friendly with its recent legalizing of bitcoin OP might get positive response from the government.

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Quote from: Doell on March 20, 2022, 05:44:17 PM

Actually your idea is not bad however, unfortunately we already have cryptocurrencies that are good option, safe and have the advantage of holding them. That's is bitcoin, which you and your citizens can use anytime especially your family on there besides bitcoin has been accepted in many countries including your country @OP. By The way I'm sorry a little unsure of your statement that you want to create a token and ask for help tip to start it, I'm a little worried.

Worried about the same thing, also a quiet confused why they are still choosing to create new token where they can use top coins which is more secured and already trusted by many. We should not deal on any new token that wants to help Ukraine because it can be a scam or a fake project, better to be safe here.

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Actually your idea is not bad however, unfortunately we already have cryptocurrencies that are good option, safe and have the advantage of holding them. That's is bitcoin, which you and your citizens can use anytime especially your family on there besides bitcoin has been accepted in many countries including your country @OP. By The way I'm sorry a little unsure of your statement that you want to create a token and ask for help tip to start it, I'm a little worried.

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Quote from: ryzaadit on March 18, 2022, 01:53:34 PM

Sorry, I'm not buying this scheme.

IMO, in crypto while there has some situations like this. Some shitty person like scammer taken advantage like open Donation while the fund can't be traceable + not really guarantee at all the fund will be send.

If people want to donate, it's better to use verified company/government fund raising address rather than personal.

We should always take care with dealing on those fake projects, we all know how scammers works and they will really take advantage of the situation, I will not buy on this kind of scheme as well. I know its good to donate through cryptocurrency but as much as possible, always donate on a legit organizations because those are the one who really works and do their purpose.

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Quote from: ryzaadit on March 18, 2022, 01:53:34 PM

Sorry, I'm not buying this scheme.

IMO, in crypto while there has some situations like this. Some shitty person like scammer taken advantage like open Donation while the fund can't be traceable + not really guarantee at all the fund will be send.

If people want to donate, it's better to use verified company/government fund raising address rather than personal.

Makes me want to question OP on why would they buy to your project when a simple fiat just like what OP said has no value right now due to conflict. This doesn't seem to add all up since what's the use of crypto or virtual token if it's not yet accepted by the government plus we have working crypto already just like Bitcoin or Ethereum. I think if someone who's tech savvy in OP's place know how to make a deal using Bitcoin then OP might have a problem already.

In addition, Ukraine finally signs up to make Bitcoin and Ethereum as legal tender despite of being in war with Russia.

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Quote from: LibertyOTC on March 16, 2022, 08:16:42 AM

Well I'm a Ukrainian living in Europe with actually lot of my family still in Ukraine...
Well the Ukrainian currency (hrivna) actually worths nothing and people is having big problems to get supplies and those who wanna escape finds that it's like they don't have money so I developed a crytotoken for using it as a virtual grivna that could be exchanged for other mayor tokens like BNB,USDT...

Well the mayor of my ukrainian city is a childhood friend and told him about the project.... He actually encourages it and fully support me.... Can someone give me any tip?
Actually the token will have a small "tax " that will be used for supporting Ukrainian government.
I would be really happy if people can actually help me a bit with that ))

The first question that comes to my mind is why people should use your token? Is it not more effective to just donate directly to the Ukrainian government or the their citizens directly with bitcoin which already has value and it is accepted all over the world? Why do we need a token so it can be exchanged to other tokens and only a small amount goes to the government to support them? I am not doubting your intentions but this seems like a useless project.

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Sorry, I'm not buying this scheme.

IMO, in crypto while there has some situations like this. Some shitty person like scammer taken advantage like open Donation while the fund can't be traceable + not really guarantee at all the fund will be send.

If people want to donate, it's better to use verified company/government fund raising address rather than personal.

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Quote from: LibertyOTC on March 17, 2022, 08:10:07 AM

Quote from: tabas on March 17, 2022, 04:49:16 AM

What are the other details like whitepaper, roadmap, website, and other important stuff for having a project like that you've mentioned? Honestly, if there are good projects and cryptos that are already existing and with much liquidity then there's no need to pursue any project that you're seeing to have potential in times like this. Because as you've said, money there is nothing and if you're going to build up this project in the hard times, you're going to deal first with liquidity and people that going to doubt it.

Thanks for your reply.... basically liquidity will come from a group of ukranian friends here in Europe that we are gonna set up the project.... About the roadmap,white paper and website as soon we start it, we will share it with the community

Good.
You'll get there and prepare all the things needed because there could also be people that would see that project of yours in your country that will question the authenticity of it if they can't see that many details.
Although I'm doubting the liquidity if it'll just come from your friends and how much is the estimation of it.

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What's the catch? I mean, are you alone developing it? Sorry if I give a benefit of the doubt approach here but how can it be executed? I think you need a summary of what you're proposing just like a whitepaper. How will the tokenomics work? Is it backed up by something? These are just simple questions worth noting before you proceed.

The thing is, your problem is that you wanted to help people there because they don't have money and if they could exchange it for altcoins like BNB that will help them a lot. If liquidity comes from your friends why not convert that liquidity to BNB or other accepted crypto then donate it to those who are in need? I think you're just asking for a simple solution here by the means of donation and not by creating another project, just an opinion.

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Quote from: tabas on March 17, 2022, 04:49:16 AM

What are the other details like whitepaper, roadmap, website, and other important stuff for having a project like that you've mentioned? Honestly, if there are good projects and cryptos that are already existing and with much liquidity then there's no need to pursue any project that you're seeing to have potential in times like this. Because as you've said, money there is nothing and if you're going to build up this project in the hard times, you're going to deal first with liquidity and people that going to doubt it.

Thanks for your reply.... basically liquidity will come from a group of ukranian friends here in Europe that we are gonna set up the project.... About the roadmap,white paper and website as soon we start it, we will share it with the community

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It's easier said than done, there are a lot of works from behind, but if your friend is willing to do that and have patience then why not?

Just remember though that everything you hear in this community is advise, you it really might look good in paper but it's going to be a lot of hard work. So good luck whether you want to pursue this idea or not.

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What are the other details like whitepaper, roadmap, website, and other important stuff for having a project like that you've mentioned? Honestly, if there are good projects and cryptos that are already existing and with much liquidity then there's no need to pursue any project that you're seeing to have potential in times like this. Because as you've said, money there is nothing and if you're going to build up this project in the hard times, you're going to deal first with liquidity and people that going to doubt it.

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It's actually just an idea....that's why I'm asking for help since I have not much experience about how we should focus that....maybe someone with a bit of experience on this can actually give any advice so we can be successful with that.... Actually if everything goes well, we are interested in starting locally since here there are lot of people from my city....
So, what so you guys think?

Thanks in advance!)

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Just ask for the official link from the token project site you are referring to. We certainly sympathize here, but taking advantage of the situation for personal gain would be highly unethical. We know the situation in your country, and don't let there be a handful of scammers who are really looking to get in trouble by sharing shitcoin projects. That's totally unacceptable. Moreover, the fundraising is still ongoing, at least we have more faith in an official announcement for this than trusting a project that is not clear on the road map. Don't be offended, because we're just being realistic about this. Isn't it more in?

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Well I'm a Ukrainian living in Europe with actually lot of my family still in Ukraine...
Well the Ukrainian currency (hrivna) actually worths nothing and people is having big problems to get supplies and those who wanna escape finds that it's like they don't have money so I developed a crytotoken for using it as a virtual grivna that could be exchanged for other mayor tokens like BNB,USDT...

Well the mayor of my ukrainian city is a childhood friend and told him about the project.... He actually encourages it and fully support me.... Can someone give me any tip?
Actually the token will have a small "tax " that will be used for supporting Ukrainian government.
I would be really happy if people can actually help me a bit with that ))

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