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newbie
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July 03, 2013, 05:03:27 PM
#9
When technology began, it was created to serve man.
Have the tables turned?  Is man is now in service to technology
or a technological system, generally?  Who can say no?

Without technology, most people on earth would die of starvation.
Fact is, we are all on technological life-support.  Is that a genuine
achievement for man?  Or a genuine failure?

Serve it or die ... can anyone argue that humanity is not a slave
in service to technology already?  How much of that will people
take?  What will happen if many decide they don't want to
go that direction anymore?  Will they have any options?

Point fingers where you like, but mankind enslaved itself.
No man or group of men could have done it alone.
Enslavement via endless breeding, and now we
are on technological life-support for our stupidity,
praying that more technological enslavemnet will continue
to save the day as more breeding creates more endless crisis.

As is required by our systems of usury, the destruction
of which has been known for 1000s of years.  Hey, don't
got my money?  I'll take your daughter and put your
son to work in my fields.  OK, everyone is satisfied now.

Money for nothing, and chicks for free.
It's an Industrial Disease.
newbie
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July 03, 2013, 04:19:53 PM
#8
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcoins-lost-3793

That is the thread that spurred my thoughts here.
Into the future, people will argue over this and that,
and debate endlessly over what is better, and there
will be crisis and solutions, but as the journey into dreamland
continues, mankind will continue to destroy everything that is
required for his authentic and genuine existence on this planet,
and whenever, however, the end comes, the longer the journey,
the worse the catastrophy (not necessarily wholly of nature, but
of human nature), and mankind will be forced to subsist
in a barren existence for eons, if at all (such as being
physically integrated into technology, eg, Matrix).

In the end, Ted Kaczynski and long lost and destroyed
native populations will have the last laugh.

It is very fitting to have bitcoins enter the realm.
It is no less illusory than all the rest of it.

Why are we doing this?  Where are we going?
When will we get there?  There are no responsible answers,
and freedom is 100% about being 100% responsible for yourself.
But it gets more and more impossible daily as the python of
technology strangles around our necks.

My basic premise is that animals cannot function normally
in artificial environments.  They get weird, they get strange,
their behavior becomes abnormal and dysfunctional.

Anyone seeing that yet?  Less and less or more and more?

You be the decider.

   Native American isn't blood, it is what is in the heart - the love for
   the land, the respect for it, those who inhabit it, and the respect and
   acknowledgment of the spirits and elders. That is what it is to be
   Indian. This we know: the earth doesn't belong to man, man belongs to
   the earth. All things are connected like the blood that unites one
   family. Man did not weave the web of life, he is merely a strand in it.
   Whatever he does to the web, he does to himself.
   
   * Chief Seattle: Every part of this earth is sacred to my people, we
   are part of the earth, and it is part of us. * Dave Chief: Respect
   means listening until everyone has been heard and understood. Only
   then is there a possibility of balance and harmony. The goal of Indian
   spirituality. * Cree Indian Prophesy: Only after the last tree has been
   cut down, only after the last fish has been caught, only after the last
   river has been poisoned - only then will you realize that money cannot
   be eaten. * Chief Seattle: We know that the white man does not
   understand our ways. One portion of the land is the same to him as the
   next, for he is a stranger who comes in the night, and takes from the
   land whatever he needs. The earth is not his brother, but his enemy;
   and when he has conquered it, he moves on. * Luther Standing Bear:
   The American Indian is of the soil, whether it be the region of forest,
   plains, pueblo, or mesa. He fits into the landscape, for the hand that
   fashioned the continent, also fashioned the man for his surroundings.
   He once grew as naturally as the wild sunflowers. He belongs just as
   the buffalo do. * Chief Red Cloud: I am poor and naked, but I am the
   chief of the nation. We do not want riches, but we do want to train our
   children right. Riches will do us no good. We cannot take them with us
   to the other world. We do not want riches, we want peace and love.
   * Geronimo: I cannot think we are useless, for God would not have
   created us. There is one God looking down on us all. We are all the
   children of one God. The sun, the darkness, the winds ... are all
   listening to what we say. * Black Elk: The 1st peace, which is the most
   important, is that which comes within the souls of people when they
   realize their relationship, their oneness with the universe and all its
   powers, and when they realize that in the center of the universe dwells
   the Great Spirit, and that this center is really everywhere; it is
   within each of us.
   
   * Chief Seattle: We do not inherit the earth from our forefathers, we
   borrow it from our children.
newbie
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July 03, 2013, 03:01:18 PM
#7
What you don't know are the real frauds, for example, physicists and nuclear weapons (no such thing).
As well as anything related to NASA/space/astrophysics/etc ...  Physicists are generally frauds,
nothing more than high-paid welfare workers for the government, generally speaking.

However, this goes for most "professions" ... most of them have fraudulent foundations.
I would except 4b occupations, and those professions that deal with hard factual reality, such
as engineers, chemists, non-theoretical biologists/botanists, programmers, and a few others.

Definition of PROFESSION

   1: the act of taking the vows of a religious community
   2: an act of openly declaring or publicly claiming a belief, faith, or opinion
   3: an avowed religious faith
   4a: a calling requiring specialized knowledge and often long and intensive academic preparation
   b: a principal calling, vocation, or employment
   c: the whole body of persons engaged in a calling

Anyway, if you have serious questions, I would entertain them as time permits.
People today have no idea of how tenuous, fleeting, and illusory their reality is.
It is almost like a dream that nobody wants to wake-up from.

To answer your question, University of Iowa, and Stanford.

Reality is as simple as providing and provisioning for any children that you create
with what nature has provided.  That's really the only thing man needed to learn,
but he has utterly failed to do such a simple thing that all other animals can do,
because in ignorance, he feels superior to nature in his self-idolatry.
legendary
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July 03, 2013, 02:45:31 PM
#6
"free energy"

Facepalm
I have a PhD in Chemistry and Aeronatics

Please let me know which school gave you these PhD degrees so I can avoid sending any of my children there.
newbie
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July 03, 2013, 02:14:23 PM
#5
"free energy"

Facepalm
No, I don't fall.  I have a PhD in Chemistry and Aeronatics and have studied his work for over 10 years.
If you have any serious reason for saying such a thing, I will be happy to enlighten you.
What is a fraud is modern quantum physics.  So either you have not studied
the work of Dr. Mills, or you are a physicist that can't deal with reality.
legendary
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If you want to walk on water, get out of the boat
July 03, 2013, 01:57:12 PM
#4
"free energy"

Facepalm
legendary
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July 03, 2013, 12:12:20 PM
#3
Free-energy will bail the current failing systems out

If you're talking about the hydrino based energy source that blacklightpower.com is pushing, then you've fallen for a scam.
newbie
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July 03, 2013, 11:45:27 AM
#2
Free-energy will bail the current failing systems out, IMHO, and there will be no failure to the current paradigms, as many are expecting.  Free-energy will allow humanity to turn Antarctica into a giant NYC.  But we are never going into space.  Cosmic radiation prevents humanity from going forward into Star-Trek-ville, and there is no imaginable way around that.  Earth is all we got.  Will people be happy living in a world devoid of nature, with a trillion people living off hydroponic systems in a global mega-city?  People can easily multiply 10-fold every 100 years, resources permiting.  10 billion, 100 billion, 1 trillion ... in just 200 years.  I am not so sure if free-energy is a savior or a curse.  But it is here ... http://www.blacklightpower.com/

I would not want to live in that kind of world.  I prefer nature to people, most don't, but the majority rules.
newbie
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July 03, 2013, 11:03:37 AM
#1
I thought it would be a little interesting to see what people think the ultimate root of all problems in this world is.

As for me:

1. The best society for human life is the weakest and least technological, eg, free and independent, sitting on a beach, making love, eating coconuts fish from the lagoon.  However, this isn't very realistic, because any mechanized and ordered society with resulting high technology will always destroy the former out of desire for more resources and control.  So, it is a real human dilemma - the most powerful society with the worst conditions for humanity will always destroy and plunder the weakest society with the best conditions for humanity.

2. The 2nd best society for human life is the agrarian society, but requires parents that do not breed more than their natural resources can provide for.  To do otherwise only creates slaves for human systems, and destroys ability of people to serve others voluntarily.  This was pre-1850 America generally.  Enough industry to defend any invader, but not so much that it was the dominant means of survival.

In my opinion, #2 is the peak of human civilization; a sustainable agrarian society with enough industry to make agrarian life somewhat comfortable and healthy. while also being able to defend itself.  After that, civilization can only move forward into slavery and servitude, plundering in every imaginable way, as people attempt to live off people, instead of the land.  And this is why civilization has a 100% failure rate.  100%.  Make no mistake about it.  No civilization has ever lasted long.  Agrarian societies are by far the longest lasting societies.  And most peaceful.

And so far as bitcoin goes, you better understand this: when usury ends, all society will revert almost instantaneously back the the agrarian age or earlier.  We are living in a cycle of:

-> loans with unprinted interest to increase industrial growth
-> ever-increasing population to generate/consume industrial growth products
-> ever-increasing plunder of humanity and resources (taxation & wealth for free)
to pay the unpayable debts and provide for ever-increasing population densities
-> ever-increasing controls to manage the entire human-engineered system
-> back to more loans to keep things going ...

And when that cycle ends, the whole show comes to a close, and all you got is what you got.
And if you ain't got land, you ain't got shit.
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