Unable to trade because of my nationality

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Quote from: jrrsparkles on March 27, 2021, 02:43:30 AM

But why you have Sudanese passport when you born in UAE? You actually supposed to get the nationality from UAE right?

You can use VPN to access exchange but it has risks when you choose to trade on centralized exchanges. Only option is choosing a DEX where there is no restrictions for anyone to trade.

UAE is the strictest country regarding nationality and citizenship. Even though I was born there and lived there for 18 years, I wont get the their passport. I cant even visit my family in the UAE without a visa because I dont have a residence permit. Anyways I found other exchanges and am currently on kraken. Thanks for everyones help.

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I think trying to do something illegal is one thing, if you want to do it you can go ahead and try it, maybe pay someone from another nation for their information and start something with that and you can test to see if you can trade. Who knows what you can do, I really do not know because there are many ways you could make a profit or lose money. However one thing I am 100% certain is the fact that Binance doesn't have to let you in.

If your nation doesn't allow and let Binance know about this, all Binance can do is ban everyone from that nation. I suggest finding some other place that doesn't care, I am sure there are many places out there who will let you exchange no matter where you are from, hell there are places that doesn't want KYC for under certain bitcoin limit and if you have under certain limit you could just stay under it and keep trading no matter where you are from.

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There are other ways to trade if one's government gives restrictions to use cryptocurrency. But it will not be safe and legal to do that. There is a fact of comfortable and satisfaction cause of uses relaxed or widely. We hope one day BTC will no restrictions and bonding for the users.

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Quote from: kawetsriyanto on March 25, 2021, 06:22:44 PM

You don't need to rely on Binance only. If Binance cannot accept you, just register on other top exchanges. Just search the information about the exchanges that accept your nationality first before you try to register there. I think there are many exchanges that accept Sudanese passports, so don't worry about it. Also, don't you have a local exchange in your country? If there is an exchange there, you prefer to register on your local exchange first.

Although we can participate in other exchanges in the market but the liquidity and chances of making money will be very low when binance is dominating the exchange market, most of the newest or old tokens like to gather here and the number of users is too crowded every day, it's a pity if binance doesn't support some relatively special nationalities. But don't give up hope, if someone falls into this situation, get in touch with support, they can advise us some helpful advice but discouraging the use of VPN software, quite risky and easy to be attacked by hackers

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This will not make sense if binance knows the country IP address used by the user where it is prohibited.
There's nothing you can do, just stay away from finance and don't cheat forcing your self having an account on bionnace. If your country restricted by them, there are too many exchange platforms that you can choose from. A decentralized exchange is the best for you though the liquidy is quite low at the list you know that your fund isn't a risk situation.

Besides, it is not only Binance that existed in the market and there are still numbers of reputable and trusted exchanges that welcome everyone without country restrictions.

Honestly, we can live without Binance and traders must have to find their comfort zone that they don't need to worry if someday they can't withdraw their money because of using a VPN, bypassing the restrictions and any illegalities we do just to fill in inside.

That's it, we don't need to force ourselves then if we are not permitted to do so. There are a lot of options which I think was best.

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Quote from: santiPOGI on March 23, 2021, 06:28:27 PM

Well in that case, rule is a rule that need to follow. There's nothing you can do about it but to accept their policy dude.
Besides, you still have a lot of choices to trade because there other exchange platform that might accept you where you belong.
Have you try Kucoin, Okex, or bithumb?

Rules are rules and we don't have any other choice than to follow it. It may sad and not favor on the side of OP but this is what Binance had made in their regulations. I guess Binance blockchain has a specific and significant reason why there are some nationality that they are prohobited yo join in their blockchain. Still, there are some good altcoins too like Binance that worth to invest with and may give a good return of investment.

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Quote from: StartupAnalyst on March 22, 2021, 04:06:08 PM

There is one win-win situation. Don't make KYC on Binance at all. As far as I know to open an account on Binance you need only an email address and phone number to secure your account and then you can trade up to 2 BTC per day without requiring KYC verification. You need verification only if you're going to trade more, so just don't trade more or make several accounts.

Not really a win win situation when you cannot deposit or withdraw in fiat. You can only use cryptocurrency balances for trading or any transactions you make. I don't want to take into account a potential change in policy in the future, they can start asking for KYC and then you're screwed.

There are plenty of other exchanges that the OP can possibly use, without having any issues.

Well, this is a different case with OP. Op can not even access the site of binance exchange because it was prohibited on their place to use binance.
There is nothing that OP can do is to stay away from binance. It is also not advisable to use a VPN just to bypass the restriction, it is risky for the user once binance will know that you are using PVN. Because it means your IP address was restricted to them and once it is detected there is a chance that the amount you have deposited will perhaps be freeze by them or the worst part you can not able to withdraw. However, you can use different good exchange platforms but not good as binance.

I did not suggest to use VPN, of course I'm against that. It's something that a previous user recommended. That would be disastrous, he will be caught eventually and banned. OP should just use another exchange, Kraken is quite decent, so is Poloniex and BitFinex. There are plenty of options out there, no need to risk and use illegal methods.

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I'm Indian and my nationality have never been an issue on my trading experience, but I never use any broker without a VPN because I really care about the anonymity of my transactions. I can tell you that as long the exchange you're going to don't have any kind of KYC(know your costumer) policy you can use a VPN or a proxy from any allowed country and you're 100% safe (if the broker is also 100% legit).

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But why you have Sudanese passport when you born in UAE? You actually supposed to get the nationality from UAE right?

You can use VPN to access exchange but it has risks when you choose to trade on centralized exchanges. Only option is choosing a DEX where there is no restrictions for anyone to trade.

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You don't need to rely on Binance only. If Binance cannot accept you, just register on other top exchanges. Just search the information about the exchanges that accept your nationality first before you try to register there. I think there are many exchanges that accept Sudanese passports, so don't worry about it. Also, don't you have a local exchange in your country? If there is an exchange there, you prefer to register on your local exchange first.

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Quote from: Ultegra134 on March 25, 2021, 04:25:01 PM

Quote from: StartupAnalyst on March 22, 2021, 04:06:08 PM

There is one win-win situation. Don't make KYC on Binance at all. As far as I know to open an account on Binance you need only an email address and phone number to secure your account and then you can trade up to 2 BTC per day without requiring KYC verification. You need verification only if you're going to trade more, so just don't trade more or make several accounts.

Not really a win win situation when you cannot deposit or withdraw in fiat. You can only use cryptocurrency balances for trading or any transactions you make. I don't want to take into account a potential change in policy in the future, they can start asking for KYC and then you're screwed.

There are plenty of other exchanges that the OP can possibly use, without having any issues.

Well, this is a different case with OP. Op can not even access the site of binance exchange because it was prohibited on their place to use binance.
There is nothing that OP can do is to stay away from binance. It is also not advisable to use a VPN just to bypass the restriction, it is risky for the user once binance will know that you are using PVN. Because it means your IP address was restricted to them and once it is detected there is a chance that the amount you have deposited will perhaps be freeze by them or the worst part you can not able to withdraw. However, you can use different good exchange platforms but not good as binance.

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I think this happened because of regulations laws in your country, cuz that seems to be the only reason why Binance would reject your Sudanese, they want to avoid getting sued for letting you trade crypto, instead of waiting around and asking why they blocked you, I think you should just move to another exchange that will accept your sudanese passport, give kucoin exchange a try it's like Binance although in term of volume Binance is bigger.

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Quote from: StartupAnalyst on March 22, 2021, 04:06:08 PM

There is one win-win situation. Don't make KYC on Binance at all. As far as I know to open an account on Binance you need only an email address and phone number to secure your account and then you can trade up to 2 BTC per day without requiring KYC verification. You need verification only if you're going to trade more, so just don't trade more or make several accounts.

Not really a win win situation when you cannot deposit or withdraw in fiat. You can only use cryptocurrency balances for trading or any transactions you make. I don't want to take into account a potential change in policy in the future, they can start asking for KYC and then you're screwed.

There are plenty of other exchanges that the OP can possibly use, without having any issues.

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Quote from: xeravy on February 21, 2021, 09:55:22 PM

So I tried registering with binance and I verified my account using my Sudanese passport, and it took half an hour for them to block my account. So I tried contacting customer support just to wait in queue for 7 hours and after finally reaching them, they informed me that my account was locked for good because I am Sudanese and Sudan is not a supported country and they can't help me. I then proceeded to explain that I was born in UAE and that am currently residing in Ukraine, I also told them that I verified my account using a Ukrainian phone number and a Ukrainian email. But they refused saying it doesn't matter where I reside as long as am sudanese they can't provide me service. So I went ahead and read the tos of other big exchanges like coinbase and asked their support, but they also said I can't register due to my nationality. This is very frustrating for someone who was born in UAE and lives in Ukraine, who haven't even been to Sudan to get refused service just because of my nationality. If they denied me service based on my current location I would understand but this is just astonishing. So does anyone have any tips or knows any exchange that may serve me please tell me or feel free to express your opinion about the situation.

Well in that case, rule is a rule that need to follow. There's nothing you can do about it but to accept their policy dude.
Besides, you still have a lot of choices to trade because there other exchange platform that might accept you where you belong.
Have you try Kucoin, Okex, or bithumb?

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If you are unable to create a account on Binance exchange due to their block locations in some places you can go with some other exchanges instead of using VPN which is more complex way of trading.You can have a look at other exchanges like most popular one Local Bitcoins which is most common Bitcoin exchange in Sudan with 13,50,000 users.So you can have a look at them.But if you want to try some other exchange you can trade on Kraken which is user friendly or Changelly which accepts payments from 179 countries.If you want to buy Bitcoins check out the list of Bitcoin ATM's available near your location and you can buy from there with cash.There are various other exchanges so why go only with Binance?Its popular exchange we know and deal in various currencies but if you are unable to get access so why waste time on it if you have othe possible options with you.

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It will be a tough one if you are really insisting to trade using Binance for there are really countries that is not in range of this exchange all due because of geographical area that does not support usage into those certain areas included within Binance code for the user interface. But if you do really wanted to continue getting into your trading journey, you can at least seek for other exchange that can help you out unlike Binance that already have nothing to do because of certain restrictions on your nationality. Your trading journey does not end in here just because Binance did not granted your membership because of your nationality. There are still lots of other exchanges out there. Just be sure to pick up the legitimate one.

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Quote from: StartupAnalyst on March 22, 2021, 04:06:08 PM

There is one win-win situation. Don't make KYC on Binance at all.

The best he can do is never use exchange that doesn't provide service for his geographical area and that include Binance because they can ask him for KYC at some point and this may make him loose his funds.
The best exchange he can use decentralized exchange site while he does P2P exchange if he need fiat currency.

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It's really annoying if we can't trade on Binance, because the problem of our country of residence is one of the countries that are prohibited by Binance.
But it's Binance's right to do that, because they have their own reasons for making the ban. There is nothing you can do, don't cheat to be able to
use Binance. Because I believe there are still exchanges that accept users from Sudan. All you have to do is try other exchanges one by one, until you
find exchanges that do not ban your country. Keep up the spirit my friends, not being able to trade on Binance is not the end. I believe you can become
a successful trader on other exchanges.

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Quote from: StartupAnalyst on March 22, 2021, 04:06:08 PM

There is one win-win situation. Don't make KYC on Binance at all. As far as I know to open an account on Binance you need only an email address and phone number to secure your account and then you can trade up to 2 BTC per day without requiring KYC verification. You need verification only if you're going to trade more, so just don't trade more or make several accounts.

This is a dangerous move though. If they decide to hold your funds and ask you to verify first before they can release the assets. On top of that, using Binance minus KYC will only limit on to spot trading, withdrawing and depositing only crypto assets. Any other thing OP may want to do like depositing and withdrawing fiat, trading futures etc won't be possible.

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Quote from: Scripture on March 22, 2021, 04:29:53 PM

Rules are rules, and Binance has a strict requirements if you want to get verified its hard to fight with the rules they created. You can still use Binance by creating a new account and don’t ever verified it though of course some features will not be available to you since you’re not verified and you might be in trouble sooner or later once Binance fully implement KYC. Looking for other exchange can be a good solution, I’m sure some site allows you to trade with them.

This will not make sense if binance knows the country IP address used by the user where it is prohibited.
There's nothing you can do, just stay away from finance and don't cheat forcing your self having an account on bionnace. If your country restricted by them, there are too many exchange platforms that you can choose from. A decentralized exchange is the best for you though the liquidy is quite low at the list you know that your fund isn't a risk situation.

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Rules are rules, and Binance has a strict requirements if you want to get verified its hard to fight with the rules they created. You can still use Binance by creating a new account and don’t ever verified it though of course some features will not be available to you since you’re not verified and you might be in trouble sooner or later once Binance fully implement KYC. Looking for other exchange can be a good solution, I’m sure some site allows you to trade with them.

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There is one win-win situation. Don't make KYC on Binance at all. As far as I know to open an account on Binance you need only an email address and phone number to secure your account and then you can trade up to 2 BTC per day without requiring KYC verification. You need verification only if you're going to trade more, so just don't trade more or make several accounts.

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I'm afraid there's nothing anyone can do to help you, every exchange has a list of countries that they don't accept due to several reasons, just like people in US can't use the regular Binance exchange, they only have access to Binance.US which complies with the regulations in their country, if Binance does not accept your country it best you move over to another exchange that does, I believe alot of people also feel the same way you feel this is one of the reason DEX where created, to enable people from any part of the world to be able to trade without restrictions or anything of that sort, my advice is try other CEX I'm quite sure there will be one that is open to Sudanese.

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Quote from: blckhawk on March 21, 2021, 08:22:41 AM

I feel bad for you that is why these restrictions limit the users who want to be part of the crypto industry. Anyway, since Binance doesn't support any users from Sudan then there's nothing you can do about it but instead, look for other exchanges that do not require KYC. Personally, I haven't done KYC on Binance yet because I am no big trader myself so if you are just like me a small trader then why bother getting a KYC, you will still be able to trade without any problem but it shouldn't exceed beyond 2BTC as far as I know. Anyway, just like what others say you don't need to go to Binance because there are lots of exchange including DEX who do not require KYC.

I think there should be some sort of banning of certain nations by exchanges if that's the law, why would we force exchanges to overrule the law and do something that is illegal in Sudan just because they could get some customers? After all it would mean that Binance will be charged with something in Sudan, sure not like they would be going there, I do not see CZ ever going to Sudan but I still wouldn't want to be charged with anything in anywhere.

Sudan should not ban it, that is the thing, I think it should be allowed, I think it should be even supported, crypto is a great thing that would help nations grow a lot bigger, especially those small nations, that is why the law is a bad one that's true, but to ask exchanges to break that law would not be ethical, whatever law was put in place, that law should be abide even if it is a stupid law.

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Quote from: xeravy on February 21, 2021, 09:55:22 PM

So I tried registering with binance and I verified my account using my Sudanese passport, and it took half an hour for them to block my account. So I tried contacting customer support just to wait in queue for 7 hours and after finally reaching them, they informed me that my account was locked for good because I am Sudanese and Sudan is not a supported country and they can't help me. I then proceeded to explain that I was born in UAE and that am currently residing in Ukraine, I also told them that I verified my account using a Ukrainian phone number and a Ukrainian email. But they refused saying it doesn't matter where I reside as long as am sudanese they can't provide me service. So I went ahead and read the tos of other big exchanges like coinbase and asked their support, but they also said I can't register due to my nationality. This is very frustrating for someone who was born in UAE and lives in Ukraine, who haven't even been to Sudan to get refused service just because of my nationality. If they denied me service based on my current location I would understand but this is just astonishing. So does anyone have any tips or knows any exchange that may serve me please tell me or feel free to express your opinion about the situation.

Isn't that awful? How come they're banning potential investors and traders. Is that some kind of racism? What's the reason of banning a Sudanese nationality. I did not come across with such case, this the first time I have heard of it. Aside from Sudanese, what nationality are also not allowed to trade?

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You can use binance app as a place for make buy and sell entry and you can use trading view as a place to make an analyst. I've doing it from last year, same like you binance exchange has been banned in my country so you can't acces the binance exchange using your national network.

But I don't know the reason why if I download the application form google playstore and I tried to using it and it works until now. This is the worst thing to face actually, the trusted exchange that is banned in some country will give a bad way for crypto industry.

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I had similar problem but if you really want it there is always a way around. Try VPN maybe it could work... There is also a option for you to get Estonian electric citizenship. I think with that you can bypass some of the problems. Good luck bro.

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Quote from: xeravy on February 21, 2021, 09:55:22 PM

So I tried registering with binance and I verified my account using my Sudanese passport, and it took half an hour for them to block my account. So I tried contacting customer support just to wait in queue for 7 hours and after finally reaching them, they informed me that my account was locked for good because I am Sudanese and Sudan is not a supported country and they can't help me. I then proceeded to explain that I was born in UAE and that am currently residing in Ukraine, I also told them that I verified my account using a Ukrainian phone number and a Ukrainian email. But they refused saying it doesn't matter where I reside as long as am sudanese they can't provide me service. So I went ahead and read the tos of other big exchanges like coinbase and asked their support, but they also said I can't register due to my nationality. This is very frustrating for someone who was born in UAE and lives in Ukraine, who haven't even been to Sudan to get refused service just because of my nationality. If they denied me service based on my current location I would understand but this is just astonishing. So does anyone have any tips or knows any exchange that may serve me please tell me or feel free to express your opinion about the situation.

I know it really sucks in belonging to a country where cryptocurrency exchanges are restricted, like in your case with Binance. If they don't allow people from Sudan to trade with Binance, there are tons of exchanges that you can find in CoinMarketCap such as OKEx, KuCoin, Huobi Global, Bityard and so on. It's just that Binance was complying to the government's regulations or so.

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It’s not necessary to trade on binance. Here are too many exchange around of us. Just use others exchange and dex. Yes, Binance is most popular and trusted exchange. If you can't, you have other option to choose one. But, Research about exchange before start trading. You can found the exchange list and review on coinmarketcap and coingecko.

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Quote from: Julien_Olynpic on February 22, 2021, 03:29:51 AM

There are a huge number of exchanges besides Binance. Why trade with Binance? For example, Bithamb or Okeh. Yes, there are a lot of exchanges now. If you are trading for small amounts, you do not need to go through verification. In addition, there are so many decentralized exchanges where you don't need to ask anyone's permission at all. Yes, of course, you can only trade Ethereum tokens there, but nonetheless.
There are many more exchanges. I don't know if they are available in your country. But, as a rule, you can buy and sell there without any problems. There are automatic exchangers in messengers. In my opinion, this is more than a great choice.

If that is continuously happening then just look for other legit and reputable exchanges that wouldn't restrict you from registering. I just didn't thought that some Binance ban some countries. There are still other options for you to use especially those exchanges that don't ask for KYC.

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Though binance is top most exchanger then also you are not restricted it!! This is crypto space mate, there are no limits on transactions and similarly there are million ways to transact too :-)

Just hop into CMC and choose your coin and see the list of markets available for you to trade on. So great deal of exchangers are there other than binance.

I’m sure you will find Susan friendly exchanger for sure.

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I feel bad for you that is why these restrictions limit the users who want to be part of the crypto industry. Anyway, since Binance doesn't support any users from Sudan then there's nothing you can do about it but instead, look for other exchanges that do not require KYC. Personally, I haven't done KYC on Binance yet because I am no big trader myself so if you are just like me a small trader then why bother getting a KYC, you will still be able to trade without any problem but it shouldn't exceed beyond 2BTC as far as I know. Anyway, just like what others say you don't need to go to Binance because there are lots of exchange including DEX who do not require KYC.

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I thought that Binance doesn't have that kind of restriction coz I was thinking that it is open for everyone. It is very unfortunate that our application just ends like that and stopping us to enjoy the feature of this known and reputable exchanger.

I would like to know as well all the countries that are banned in Binance for this will serves also awareness to the community.
I couldn't find it, maybe there is someone who knows it. Well, I hope there is.

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I have a negative attitude to such bans, when due to sanctions against certain states, the ban on trade is transferred to its citizens. But it will not be possible to solve this problem legally, while such restrictions are in effect. In this case, you need to find another exchange for trading, which is really a lot now, although they can not compare with Binance.

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If binance doesn't allow you to trade because of your nationality, I do not think there's anything you can do about it. The only other viable option that you have is to take time out to make research on Crypto exchanges that accept citizens of Sudan.
Actually there are quite a lot of exchanges out there that will allow you to trade. Ftx.com is a very option to start with. You can also try bithumb, mxc.com are also very good options you can try out

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Till 2019, Binance also didn't supported my country but now my country is there in their list of supported countries. You cant do anything if your country is not in their list. There are many other decentralized exchanges where you can buy and sell crypto, try that.

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Quick lookup showed Kraken and Changelly accepting Sudan residents to buy crypto. You can try Kraken out, and if you have any questions just post away since there's quite a lot of users here that have tried Kraken (I myself haven't). Changelly though is pretty unknown to me so try at your own risk I suppose. LocalBitcoins was also an option but its a p2p and I suppose you're looking for centralized ones, but if you aren't then you can try that out.

Quote from: xeravy on February 23, 2021, 06:57:58 PM

Thanks everyone for the replies they're really so helpful. I am gonna research the many options I've just seen and try to choose what I think is best. Without getting too political I hope the world realizes that the sanctions were lifted and allow us to breathe for once.

Well, nothing you can do with that, they're also just companies trying to run their business and they might impose on a few bad grounds if they just willy nilly allowed everyone to trade in their exchange. MIght want to check if they service your country next time you try an exchange though.

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Your mistake from the start is that you activated Kyc, you shouldn't have done that because you only need to withdraw an amount greater than 2 BTC per day, this is very frustrating and I understand your feeling because I am from a prohibited country as well.
I do not participate in any exchanges that require KYC verification so you should look for other exchanges that do not require this such as HitBtc, CoinEx, or use decentralized exchanges such as Binance DEX.

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Unable to register on exchanges is usually a problem for a trader to start with because there are some exchanges which have restrictions to use their exchange. They will noy verify your KYC if you are in a country they restrict. D there are also some countries where they don't adopt cryptocurrencies.

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Thanks everyone for the replies they're really so helpful. I am gonna research the many options I've just seen and try to choose what I think is best. Without getting too political I hope the world realizes that the sanctions were lifted and allow us to breathe for once.

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Quote from: xeravy on February 21, 2021, 09:55:22 PM

So I tried registering with binance and I verified my account using my Sudanese passport, and it took half an hour for them to block my account. So I tried contacting customer support just to wait in queue for 7 hours and after finally reaching them, they informed me that my account was locked for good because I am Sudanese and Sudan is not a supported country and they can't help me. I then proceeded to explain that I was born in UAE and that am currently residing in Ukraine, I also told them that I verified my account using a Ukrainian phone number and a Ukrainian email. But they refused saying it doesn't matter where I reside as long as am sudanese they can't provide me service. So I went ahead and read the tos of other big exchanges like coinbase and asked their support, but they also said I can't register due to my nationality. This is very frustrating for someone who was born in UAE and lives in Ukraine, who haven't even been to Sudan to get refused service just because of my nationality. If they denied me service based on my current location I would understand but this is just astonishing. So does anyone have any tips or knows any exchange that may serve me please tell me or feel free to express your opinion about the situation.

It was sad in your part that you encountered discrimination based on what I saw in your statement mate.
However, I have no idea also why Binance or other platform local exchange can't provide you a service. But I wondered why they verified your
passport if they can't provide you a service? that's really something to me, but in the end we can't do anything about their rules and
policy, and I can't also do nothing for you too as well. Good day

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Quote from: xeravy on February 21, 2021, 09:55:22 PM

So I tried registering with binance and I verified my account using my Sudanese passport, and it took half an hour for them to block my account. So I tried contacting customer support just to wait in queue for 7 hours and after finally reaching them, they informed me that my account was locked for good because I am Sudanese and Sudan is not a supported country and they can't help me. I then proceeded to explain that I was born in UAE and that am currently residing in Ukraine, I also told them that I verified my account using a Ukrainian phone number and a Ukrainian email. But they refused saying it doesn't matter where I reside as long as am sudanese they can't provide me service. So I went ahead and read the tos of other big exchanges like coinbase and asked their support, but they also said I can't register due to my nationality. This is very frustrating for someone who was born in UAE and lives in Ukraine, who haven't even been to Sudan to get refused service just because of my nationality. If they denied me service based on my current location I would understand but this is just astonishing. So does anyone have any tips or knows any exchange that may serve me please tell me or feel free to express your opinion about the situation.

I have couple of options for you.
1. Go without KYC. there is a 2BTC daily withdrawal limit of Binance considering the current price I don't expect you are bringing in more than that or would require withdrawal of more than that in a day. Kucoin offer 5 BTC daily withdrawal without KYC.
2. Find any other proof of Ukrain. As far as I remember Binance accepts driver's license too. So if you have a Ukranian Driver's license or any other document which could atleast warrant about your current address. Things could escalate for you. But yes If I were you in this case I won't keep a lot of money at Binance as the day they would find you are Sudanese they would block your account anyways.

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Quote from: maxreish on February 23, 2021, 08:15:12 AM

Quote from: Theb on February 22, 2021, 02:54:44 PM

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If this is the case, then OP should reconsider to trade in other decentralized exchanges where in Kyc isn't required. I dont think Binance will lift the ban of his account if there are previous terrorism issues. Also, if he logged in into sudan ip before. Previous logs may also be traced.

The way I understand his post is living in Ukraine and the reason he mainly is blocked for having a verified account in Binance is because he provided a Sudanese passport which I think in unfair in my point of view. Binance already showed compliance against US sanctions by blocking the IP addresses in Sudan but to block a a person just because of his nationality even though he is living in another county which for me is unfair, maybe they are under the assumption of him using a VPN that is why they decided not to verify his account or something but still it doesn't need to end this way on how I look at things. The other sad thing about this is even though they have been removed from the official list of "State Sponsors of Terrorism" they are still not doing anything about it.

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Quote from: Theb on February 22, 2021, 02:54:44 PM

Looks like this is not an isolated case but is being faced by several Sudanese who wants to use Binance. I did some digging about countries blocked by Binance and I came across by this Reddit post saying that the main issue why Binance restricted Sudan IP addresses is because they were identified as state sponsored by terrorism a few months back when Trump was still the president.

If this is the case, then OP should reconsider to trade in other decentralized exchanges where in Kyc isn't required. I dont think Binance will lift the ban of his account if there are previous terrorism issues. Also, if he logged in into sudan ip before. Previous logs may also be traced.

These are trading exchanges that can make some transactions even without Kyc but there are always TOS inside their platform, better to check that up before signing up.

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Quote from: xeravy on February 21, 2021, 09:55:22 PM

So does anyone have any tips or knows any exchange that may serve me please tell me or feel free to express your opinion about the situation.

We can't do something about it if that's their policy.

Are you involve in a local community crypto group in your area? If yes, they can help you with this. If no, then head to the list of exchanges here and read their respective TOS especially about restricted countries or region. I see that you also open about submitting your personal information so choosing exchange on that list shouldn't be difficult for you.

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Quote from: Julien_Olynpic on February 22, 2021, 03:29:51 AM

There are a huge number of exchanges besides Binance. Why trade with Binance? For example, Bithamb or Okeh. Yes, there are a lot of exchanges now. If you are trading for small amounts, you do not need to go through verification. In addition, there are so many decentralized exchanges where you don't need to ask anyone's permission at all. Yes, of course, you can only trade Ethereum tokens there, but nonetheless.
There are many more exchangers. I don't know if they are available in your country. But, as a rule, you can buy and sell there without any problems. There are automatic exchangers in messengers. In my opinion, this is more than a great choice.

Most likely the OP wanted to trade in Binance because it is one of the most widely known exchanges, but as you say there are many more exchanges, the only thing you need to do is to read their TOS or contact their customer support and see if your country is supported, and even if there was no centralized exchange that accepted investors from your country then you can just use decentralized exchanges and trade in that way, decentralized exchanges do not have as much volume as their centralized counterparts but it should be enough for a beginner trader.

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https://www.cryptowisser.com/exchanges/?coins=&fee=2.0&continent=AF&finder=1

Choose the Africa in the filter and enter. You will get a list of exchanges for Africans. I recommend you to visit those exchanges, and scan their Terms of services (ToS) or FAQs with searching words as: restricted area/ location or Sudan, Sudanese.

I think you will find the available exchanges for Sudanese and can choose best ones with good taker and maker fees from the filter.

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Look for other exchange mate since you’re living on a country where Binance considered as restricted. As per google, there’s a lot of good that you can choose while you’re on Ukraine and maybe you find it on your own so you can know what’s best for you, I saw eToro on the list and you might consider this one. You have to keep on moving, and start adopting cryptocurrency, there’s many options for you.

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Quote from: ultrloa on February 22, 2021, 04:29:41 PM

If your country has been restricted by binance or bug other site don't ever try to register since you might get a big trouble if they ask a KYC to you since for sure you will fail since your docs will state that you are residing in a country which citizen they forbid to use. Maybe look for another reputable exchange.

If you want spot find it here exchangers https://coinmarketcap.com/rankings/exchanges/

If you want DEX search also this by clicking this link https://coinmarketcap.com/rankings/exchanges/dex/

He should have not verified his account in the first place. Unless, he will be having more than 2BTC withdrawal per day. But anyway, there are a lot out there like kucoin, you don't need to submit KYC as well. But if you will use your credit/debit card, they may require you to submit KYC. Anyway, as others already mentioned, why not try DEX, if this will serve your purpose to trade. First time to here a Sudanese national here and the restrictions they are encountering when it comes to crypto. Lucky for us, who don't go thru this bottleneck.

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Quote from: xeravy on February 21, 2021, 09:55:22 PM

So I tried registering with binance and I verified my account using my Sudanese passport, and it took half an hour for them to block my account. So I tried contacting customer support just to wait in queue for 7 hours and after finally reaching them, they informed me that my account was locked for good because I am Sudanese and Sudan is not a supported country and they can't help me. I then proceeded to explain that I was born in UAE and that am currently residing in Ukraine, I also told them that I verified my account using a Ukrainian phone number and a Ukrainian email. But they refused saying it doesn't matter where I reside as long as am sudanese they can't provide me service. So I went ahead and read the tos of other big exchanges like coinbase and asked their support, but they also said I can't register due to my nationality. This is very frustrating for someone who was born in UAE and lives in Ukraine, who haven't even been to Sudan to get refused service just because of my nationality. If they denied me service based on my current location I would understand but this is just astonishing. So does anyone have any tips or knows any exchange that may serve me please tell me or feel free to express your opinion about the situation.

If your country has been restricted by binance or bug other site don't ever try to register since you might get a big trouble if they ask a KYC to you since for sure you will fail since your docs will state that you are residing in a country which citizen they forbid to use. Maybe look for another reputable exchange.

If you want spot find it here exchangers https://coinmarketcap.com/rankings/exchanges/

If you want DEX search also this by clicking this link https://coinmarketcap.com/rankings/exchanges/dex/

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Quote from: LeGaulois on February 22, 2021, 04:59:31 AM

The person above is right, there are plenty of exchanges around, so why only focusing on Binance?

Sticking with that Golden rule that to always go for the best or top ranking exchange and wont consider any options which i cant really blame off that kind of mentality

but the thing you have said here was actually on point.There are alternatives if you dont able to find nor dont have success with Binance, they might not really be as
popular with Binance but they could do the job well.

Those suggestions above is recommendable, no need to repeat on.

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^ The comments above were definitely right, there are plenty of crypto exchanges platform to be used aside from Binance.
If you don't want to use DEX for trading, here is the link that has a list of exchanges that you probably use in your country, https://www.bitrawr.com/sudan.
Just forget the Binance, there is nothing you can do ios top accept the fact that your country was a part of the restricted country of Binance. If you really want to use Binance, here you go use VPN, but at least there is a warning above that using PVN will put you at risk.

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Quote from: doomloop on February 22, 2021, 01:28:05 PM

By the way you might also use exchanges like changelly .. not sure if they require KYC but I used them many times and haven't verified anything yet.

If you are trying to convert huge amounts then they will ask you to fill in the KYC and will ask you to send a picture of you holding your ID card but if it is small amounts there is nothing to worry but there are many other conversion sites that does not require you to login.

@OP you can use DEX and you can use Changelly or ChangeNOW or similar sites to convert the bitcoin to the coin of your choice to trade in DEX and find a site in your location to convert stable coins to fiat currency or try sites like Bisq .

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Looks like this is not an isolated case but is being faced by several Sudanese who wants to use Binance. I did some digging about countries blocked by Binance and I came across by this Reddit post saying that the main issue why Binance restricted Sudan IP addresses is because they were identified as state sponsored by terrorism a few months back when Trump was still the president. Now the problem I see here is Sudan is now crossed out from that list and still the restriction from Binance is not yet lifted and also your case which just being a Sudanese living in a different country is still not allowed by Binance to register. Also included in that link is a change.org petition requesting Binance to lift the restriction which currently has 888 (out of 1000) signatures this might be a reach but it may help out your case. But until the restriction is lifter it is better if you find an alternative crypto exchange bro since it might take a while for Binance to respond.

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Quote from: xeravy on February 21, 2021, 09:55:22 PM

So I tried registering with binance and I verified my account using my Sudanese passport, and it took half an hour for them to block my account. So I tried contacting customer support just to wait in queue for 7 hours and after finally reaching them, they informed me that my account was locked for good because I am Sudanese and Sudan is not a supported country and they can't help me. I then proceeded to explain that I was born in UAE and that am currently residing in Ukraine, I also told them that I verified my account using a Ukrainian phone number and a Ukrainian email. But they refused saying it doesn't matter where I reside as long as am sudanese they can't provide me service. So I went ahead and read the tos of other big exchanges like coinbase and asked their support, but they also said I can't register due to my nationality.

I am not sure which exchanges accept members from Sudan but you might want to try decentralized exchanges like uniswap or others because there is no KYC needed and no restrictions.

One thing which surprised me is why Binance even accepts members from Sudan in first place if they are going to reject them later. I mean during registration itself they can ban or restrict the IP addresses that are from Sudan and its pretty easy to be honest.

Anyways there are some centralized exchanges which might accept you but my advice would be to avoid them because exchanges which don't have restrictions also don't have any license and legality most probably. Either go with p2p trades or just use a decentralized exchange which although isn't user friendly but looks like the future.

By the way you might also use exchanges like changelly .. not sure if they require KYC but I used them many times and haven't verified anything yet.

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The person above is right, there are plenty of exchanges around, so why only focusing on Binance?
I checked Kraken's website for example, and there is nothing about restrictions for people from Sudan or living in Ukraine. It's almost the same with Bitfinex and Bitstamp, I found nothing mentioning such.

A radical method would be to use the type of exchange in which you don't even need to create an account (a list of examples can be found here) or a decentralized exchange with fiats options like Bisq or why not a marketplace like Localcryptos.
You have a lot of alternatives...

Perhaps if you would have used your resident card visa instead of your passport you would have had better luck I think. But in any case it is not really advisable to use a VPN, better safe than sorry.

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There are a huge number of exchanges besides Binance. Why trade with Binance? For example, Bithamb or Okeh. Yes, there are a lot of exchanges now. If you are trading for small amounts, you do not need to go through verification. In addition, there are so many decentralized exchanges where you don't need to ask anyone's permission at all. Yes, of course, you can only trade Ethereum tokens there, but nonetheless.
There are many more exchangers. I don't know if they are available in your country. But, as a rule, you can buy and sell there without any problems. There are automatic exchangers in messengers. In my opinion, this is more than a great choice.

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Did you open your account for Binance DEX?

Binance DEX has a geographical location block on 29 nations. Binance DEX Website Will Geoblock Users From 29 Countries, Including the US

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“It seems you are accessing www.binance.org from an IP address belonging to one of the following countries:

USA, Albania, Belarus, Bosnia, Burma, Central African Republic, Democratic Republic of Congo, Democratic People’s Republic of Korea, Cote D’Ivoire, the Crimea region of Ukraine, Croatia, Cuba, Herzegovina, Iran, Iraq, Kosovo, Lebanon, Liberia, Libya, Macedonia, Moldova, Serbia, Somalia, Sudan, South Sudan, Syria, Venezuela, Yemen, or Zimbabwe.”

Binance DEX: https://www.binance.org/en

Additionally, Binance does not allow Sudanese to use Visa Credit / Debit card to buy crypto.
https://www.binance.com/en/support/articles/743a7cbe346f491594bd84282e022310-Buy-Crypto-with-Visa-Credit-Debit-Card-Now-Available-in-180-Countries

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If Binance restricted you because of your nationality/country, I'm afraid there's nothing you can do. (probably besides going the VPN route, but I wouldn't recommend it)

I suggest trying the FTX[1] exchange. Definitely not as reputable as Binance but it's been growing pretty fast and gaining popularity by the daily. Sudan doesn't seem to be banned based on this page[2] of theirs so you're probably going to be fine.

[1] https://ftx.com
[2] https://help.ftx.com/hc/en-us/articles/360042412652-Location-Restrictions

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So I tried registering with binance and I verified my account using my Sudanese passport, and it took half an hour for them to block my account. So I tried contacting customer support just to wait in queue for 7 hours and after finally reaching them, they informed me that my account was locked for good because I am Sudanese and Sudan is not a supported country and they can't help me. I then proceeded to explain that I was born in UAE and that am currently residing in Ukraine, I also told them that I verified my account using a Ukrainian phone number and a Ukrainian email. But they refused saying it doesn't matter where I reside as long as am sudanese they can't provide me service. So I went ahead and read the tos of other big exchanges like coinbase and asked their support, but they also said I can't register due to my nationality. This is very frustrating for someone who was born in UAE and lives in Ukraine, who haven't even been to Sudan to get refused service just because of my nationality. If they denied me service based on my current location I would understand but this is just astonishing. So does anyone have any tips or knows any exchange that may serve me please tell me or feel free to express your opinion about the situation.

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