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Quote from: bob123 on August 31, 2020, 02:08:34 AM

To be honestly, you wouldn't need the screenshot to actually get that information.
Since his address is publicly known and one of those two outputs is very low compared to the other one, you can fairly confident say which most likely is the change.
Obviously this screenshot confirms it to you, but nothing more.

It was just an example to show why he shoudn't share more data than he should

He asked if there is anything you can get from the screenshot and you can't find on the blockchain and I gave him a quick example.
It doesn't matter much in this case as OP already used that change address as one of the inputs in a transaction he made later and hence can simply be linked to his wallet.

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Quote from: khaled0111 on August 30, 2020, 04:57:50 PM

Actually there is...
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To be honestly, you wouldn't need the screenshot to actually get that information.
Since his address is publicly known and one of those two outputs is very low compared to the other one, you can fairly confident say which most likely is the change.
Obviously this screenshot confirms it to you, but nothing more.

@OP
Don't worry too much.
The way you described it, there isn't much privacy you are compromising with this screenshot.
Most of the information which can be extracted from it, is already publicly known (or can be guessed).

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Quote from: coupable on August 30, 2020, 04:24:55 PM

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Actually there is...
Let's take for example the outgoing transaction you made on the 1st of July 2020:
https://blockchair.com/fr/bitcoin/transaction/e6f3d6dc086df01038d882d5593c6e2bdd6e77eac94b85b432110c2638b504ff

From the blockchain explorer we can see that you sent
0.00006844BTC to 1A6H9rj42EbDJoo3fXWdVaLt8MnEjTZTD
0.00756800BTC to 1GTcgtxun1RS2M6rZdnX56Q36t6cPgrQCi

Most likely one of the above addresses is your change address but no one can tell which one it is for sure (supposing you didn't use it with the main address in the same transaction).

But when looking at the picture you posted it become evident that 1A6H9rj42EbDJoo3fXWdVaLt8MnEjTZTD is your change address as the left balance according to the picture is 0.00006844.

This is just one example. It may sound trivial but you never know how such information may be used to compromise your privacy.

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Aside from what @bob123, there are few common tips to maintain your current privacy :
1. Never reuse your bitcoin address.
2. Be careful when your spend your Bitcoin, try not to make transaction with Bitcoin from multiple address (especially address that tied to different account).

I can understand all the privacy concerns described by both of you, but here i am talking about the actual case; I have created that wallet only to generate an address to be used for signature campaign (i am a segwit user but the campaign required a legacy address) which will be displayed in public. All the transactions data shown in the screenshot are made to/from that address and i didn't ever thought to use any other address for any other purpose, expect the ones generated as change addresses which can be shown using a blockchain explorer by just searching my sig-campaign address which is already shown in public comment/spreadsheet. Can you read any other information according to that screenshot?

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Quote from: coupable on August 29, 2020, 05:34:15 PM

A bit off-topic, i would really appreciate if you explain how my privacy can be protected if the address is already exposed in public and i have already mentioned that i am using Electrum for desktop. I do really care about my privacy, but i thought it's not a problem as the address in public is related to my profile which is a forum psydoanonym account.

It depends on what you really mean with you care about your privacy.
You are fine with your address being linked to your forum account. Are you fine with people here knowing how much you have in your electrum wallet? If so, there isn't much you need to do.
Do you care that the electrum server you are connecting to, sees all of your addresses, transaction history, IP etc.? If so, you don't need to do anything. If not, you need to either set up your own electrum server or stop using electrum.

It really comes down to how much privacy you want to have and what you are ready to give up (in terms of usability) for that.

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Quote from: coupable on August 27, 2020, 02:40:54 PM

So i didn't tried all the suggestions above to solve the issue.

I assume you opened Electrum and saw the previously unseen transaction?

Yes, that's what happened. I opened Electrum and the transactions are displayed in Transaction history.
I guess the second transaction was deep in the mempool and hadn't propagated to Electrum nodes because it has law fee (5 sats/vbyte).

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A bit off-topic, but you might want to blur or crop part of the image that not relevant (such as all confirmed transaction and balance) to protect your privacy.

Thank you for your suggestion. All the transactions history shown in the screenshot are made in one address (the one i mentioned above) and it's the same address i use to receive my weekly paiement in signature campaign with BestChange. So it's already in public if you just search the history of that one address.

Fair point, but i would still blur/hide it on same scenario.

A bit off-topic, i would really appreciate if you explain how my privacy can be protected if the address is already exposed in public and i have already mentioned that i am using Electrum for desktop. I do really care about my privacy, but i thought it's not a problem as the address in public is related to my profile which is a forum psydoanonym account.

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Honestly, i was so tired yesterday night and slept few minutes after creating this thread. Cheesy

So i didn't tried all the suggestions above to solve the issue. But now i know what to try when facing the same situation again. Thank you all who commented above.

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A bit off-topic, but you might want to blur or crop part of the image that not relevant (such as all confirmed transaction and balance) to protect your privacy.

Thank you for your suggestion. All the transactions history shown in the screenshot are made in one address (the one i mentioned above) and it's the same address i use to receive my weekly paiement in signature campaign with BestChange. So it's already in public if you just search the history of that one address.

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I think this is the transaction OP is talking about: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transaction/9c1b16c847dbe29f8f181f590e23ed8566710c7f17c6d1b662d9b303655dbec6, this has the amount sent equal to the value in the screenshot. And then the transaction immediately after it (this) is the one that doesn't show in Electrum. Both are confirmed by now so at this point we can only speculate what the problem was.

The fee of the first transaction is 20 sats/vbyte, the second transaction has 5 sats/vbyte so maybe the second transaction was deep in the mempool and hadn't propagated to all full nodes at the time.

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you could try and load the transaction directly by having the transaction ID of it or the raw bytes in hexadecimal format. all these options are found under Tools > Load transaction in your menu bar. for instance you could use the From text option and enter the raw tx hex (taken from blockchair.com)

Code:

0100000001b61b6c852c9104a597e1dd39783bd376092f568a05f5a9897ac590fb2135d3f2000000006b483045022100bb177b57e46abe5150e5e933d49b1f9dbdeb847d68411724ec4c98f13bb0c03602207dc89b4e47fcc37b05d559cb2ce5d36d54a5cd48a932696dc3e80abf4ab345a601210218d8381b1215738eaef782b7f2427bb30e3944dd7dbb87bd9d6b65c2abaa0817ffffffff02100f0400000000001976a914e3461c2a90751916363f9974c98b6d09f6abc0a688acfe0f1000000000001976a914b1de7562083571e7d5ba102b86b9e249bdc46f3588ac00000000

and click broadcast.

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Try to change the server you can find it under the green circle bottom right of the wallet.

Or try to close the Electrum and reopen again it might be a syncing issue.

If still doesn't work try to change your DNS to Google DNS 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 then open the Electrum wallet.

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Hi Folks

I am running Electrum 4.0.2 version.
In one of my addresses, i have two pending transactions. But in my wallet, i can only see the amount pending in one transaction.
This is my address: https://blockchair.com/fr/bitcoin/address/1MiiNsmsGDzgSsRM2atD51Xxiu5Db6rCZ1
Total balance is 0.00882489 btc

Screenshot from my wallet:

As you can see, i can only see the 0.00616489 btc pending from the first transaction.

What shall i do to see the unconfirmed amount in the second transaction?
Note that "Sending unconfirmed inputs" is already active in my wallet and i sent unconfirmed amounts several times before.

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