Topic: ** UNITED MINERS - ROI~30DAYS WITH ASSET OPEN MARKET ** (Read 3972 times)

http://unitedminers.cloud

We reruning beta.. if somebody has unpaid tx, pls contact me via pm
admin.

We created UMC asset which can be traded at open market at http://cloud.gethashing.com

Daily dividends will be sent daily/weekly to owners of assets.

You can simply buy UMC assets via sending bitcoin from your colored coin wallet (coinprism.com, gethashing.com) to the address:
1LmDHXf9CGfxZsaNF9mFWiXSDjEnzviQoR
1UMC = 0.01btc (+0.0001btc fee)
This is crowdfunding - it means that all payments are used for buing hashrate and improve dividends.

You can also be rewarded for investments from colored coin wallets and for ideas how to improve the project.

You can also join our FB groub and stay in touch
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1611270632478881/


admin

LAST CHANCE TO GET FREE REVENUE!

You can join our fb group and follow instructions..

Or you can register colored coin wallet coinprism.com is recommended and simply post your asset address to this forum. It has only one condition - you must confirm here that you got assets and dividends..

Ok, thanks for feedback, now i understand.

This is 'on the way' project, I will do some changes soon.

admin

The friend problem and your site is not experiencing any credibility.
Your server and free, your domain and free and the site looks like it was created by a 15 year old.
And as you say on the site that the risks are low over yourself invests in other places that make mining in the clouds and we all know that currently all are pyramids that can collapse at any time.
If you want to start a business suggest at least do a better investment grab a domain, ssl, a cleaner layout for the site.

I'm also curious.

May be you can write some review after

admin

I made a Pay In About 0.1 BTC

Let`s see how long it will take 

Thanks, now I understand - 6 days roi is caused by very low investments - our initial covering hashrate is more than enough for this. But in future it will not be worse - We try balance this via our own resources as our investment into the service. Also we prepare tradeable asset which will be launch soon - we hope that it will support community. But thanks again we will improve stability resources.

6 days ROI is unsustainable over a period of time, life doesn't work like that, doesn't matter how good you are at what you do.
It's unbelievable because it's too good and client expectations adjust very quickly i.e. they will expect that as a minimum for the future.

IF you are real and doing something legit, reduce your returns rate to something like 40+ days, still a great ROI, and save the surplus for  the rainy days that are bound to come, to provide stability of payout.
That way you can build a long term business with loyal clients.

And, remember your balls.

I don't understand why? Please explain it for me..

In fact guys, now i don't understand you.. Can you explain your comments me, please?

admin

This is unsustainable and unbelievable.

Bizarre morality  You steal from newbies and boast about it, then reprimand someone for bumping.
Fuck off.

Do you know that you can't bump more than once in a 24 hour period? Reported to mods.

Our average roi is ~6 days.
Predicted roi is better than ~20 days now.

We offer free revenue share - more at http://unitedminers.cf  - till 31st of July

We also prepare open share market for all..

"Faucet mode" added in beta.

When all investments are already paid so next revenue will be sent to the last address in the queue till new investment will be added.

admin

Add more informations about how your system works etc, in your OP.
And why we should trust you with our money?

First investor in the queue is paid after income from ALL investments reach 125% of his investment.
What update do you mean?

admin

also i think that this is the same case
tx: 851738b042c656602edf262a3de7de8728d86e4625e96f6565ac25f67394f0a3

it will be paid asap

admin

I have read from the first page, but I still don't understand how this is different than any other ponzi scheme that exist before you(UNITED MINERS).

Is this how your system works?:
1. Collect funds from investor.
2. Invest funds in cloud mining services/trade/etc.
3. Investor get paid daily(?) until reach ROI(125%).
Correct me if I'm wrong.

Also, you really need to update your OP.
I mean, you need more informations in your OP.

ROI depends on active and also already paid investments. Also we make some profit which has been reinvest so ROI is shorter now.

admin

we do some changes in blockchain api, so be patient, your payment has not been sent yet..

expected time to ROI drops from 50 to 30 days overnight? If that isn't a sign of  a Ponzi scheme, I don't know what is...

Hi there Sindren,

just invested yesterday about 0.01 BTC.
See transaction: https://blockchain.info/en/tx/feb1f456e8a4c5c8a028cae8abe88621d24495ad135c87296242a691aa5fa755

On the site unitedminers.cf stands that the Invest already paid back.
But there is still no Balance on my Wallet 

Did something went wrong?

I will invest a bit in thoose good chezchien souls 

Last chance to get free revenue share..

admin

IMPORTANT
if you want free revenue share - please join FB group, and send your colored coin asset address to post till 31st of July

admin

To me, this whole concept sounds like a ponzi scheme on the brink of collapse at any moment. But I'll hold off judgement for now

Hi all.
All investments are covered by hashrate at (but not only) hashflare,hashocean,scryptsy,genesis etc. nowadays.
Daily revenue is min 2% of active investments.



regards,
admin

You're right company for 1$ and management around about cca 50$ in the cheapest version
In fact we have some ltd companies for couple of years but we don't know if it is good thing to use them or found new (especially due to laws in the EU )
Yes , I know, but how can we react to attacks 'you are ponzi/scam' - we say again and again- not, we're not..
Thanks, I want to have my balls to the death so it seems that I must try to not be a scam

And thanx for your fresh post, really.

regards,
admin

That's simply not true, it's at least 30 X that depending on circumstances.
I agree that having a UK registered company means nothing in terms of whether the business is a scam or not.

You may well be a confident bunch of guys who honestly think that your mixed bag of 'investments' will continue to be profitable, but if I had a coin for every time I have read this "We trade/mine/arbitrage/lend etc. etc." pitch then I would be a rich man. Certainly richer than if I put any money into them, as 99% disappear without a trace.

Repeating "we are not a ponzi/scam" time and again doesn't really mean much, nor does "it's our secret" when you are asked about your revenue methods. Try a screen shot or two, it might help investor confidence.

Good luck if you are legit, but I hope your balls drop off if you're just another bullshitter.

 

we invest in trusted mining like genesis-mining, logicabit, adv, etc. and also in risky project as scryptcc, hashflare, etc.

Also tranding brings non-zero profit (e.g. localbitcoins, btcjam)

But full portfolio is our know-how..

admin

Can I ask where you invest?
50 days ROI is truely high. I must not longer working.

Cheers
Salmen

No, we don't use our own miners know. We invest in balanced portfolio of cloud mining and trading services.
e.g. last week is trading much more profitable than any mining..

admin

50 days is very good.
But where you invest our money to offer the best ROI?
I hope you invest our money in real miner with very low electricity bill and low cost, if not i will not that you invest our money in Pina Colada or other drinks!

Cheers
Salmen

Now we have roi <50 days!

JOIN THIS FB GROUP AND GET BITCOIN REVENUE FOR FREE !!!

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1611270632478881/

admin

no, it's not ONLY these three, it's only for 'e.g.'

But in fact -
e.g. genenis mining for stability
scryptcc is not scam yet and we are 200%+ for all time
for more mintsy, hasflare etc.
trading at localbitcoins, cexio, btclend etc.

also we use some fiat services..

But we will not send details about all portolio - it's our know-how, please respect this.

admin

That's three sources of revenue you list which have to add up to 125% guaranteed ROI.

1) Genesis: roi last time I looked was being measured in years.
2) Scrypt.cc: scam in its death throes
3) Trading with bitcoins: doing what?   

In fact guys we really are not scammers.. So our goal is to build stable comunity. United miners is the first but importat step . We will have some surprice for you but for more please pm me.

"Part of our community"? What does it mean?

Do you want be a part of our community? PM me..

admin

For the examples and details how it works please read previous posts.

Crowdmining is crowd mining as 'crowd funding is crowdfunding'.

All users works together and all have benefits from it.

125% will be give back to users when earnings from cloud mining and trading services in portfolie arrive. Now it's cca 125 days in maximum but during the time it will be better. Our goal is around 50-60 days. It can be better but our focus is also if not mainly to lowering risks.

This service improves roi and spreads the risk across services AND ALSO ACROSS THE TIME.

admin

@OP,
Can you please explain everything into detail???
What do you actually mean by saying "Crowdmining" instead of Clowdmining?

One more thing, this 125% ROI will be given to the users in how much time, can you please mention that in the OP???

Hi, yes there is already higher revenue than 65k satoshi, it's minimum. Also We send there some small additive amount from ads e.g.

Yes, If you invest 100k now, you will get 125k in two days. BUT! there is another investment - which must be paid first - so your estimaded roi will be roi of all previous investments + 2days -- but it's better roi than in alone mining and with next investments it will be shorter and shorter. In fact, last investment has worst roi of all till next investment coming or some invvestment has been paid. Then It will be shorter.

Also due to attack to blockchain transaction confirmations are superslow mainly for small amounts with low fee..

If somebody would like to invest, I recommend higher tx fee than 0.0005btc nowadays.

Sindren

Hey, Sindren, could you please answer me?


Kukish

Thanks for question, guy..


Ponzi is when payouts for user are realized from payments by new user. we don't do this. We only use FIFO system. It works in simple - that all investments generating income only for one user at the same time, after payments for next and so on..

YOU NEVER CAN HAVE WORSE ROI than in alone mining.

Advantages against 'alone mining' are described in the earlier posts but e.g.

Better ROI and much lower risk.
please read all thread for more info..

How can you say this isn't a ponzi?  The very definition of a ponzi is exactly what you are doing!  You are taking in money from people, doing whatever behind the scenes blah blah blah doesn't really matter, then paying out the people who put in money first.

Here is my question, you didn't start with any hashrate, so your plan was to buy hashrate as people buy in, why wouldn't I just go buy my own hashrate and start earning my own returns instead of having my money go to the person who is first in line and waiting to get my share?

Thanks for letting us know 

Reall? Can I ask why?

Guys, I try to reply to all questions but I can't answer to all posts 'it's scam' - it's not, really. If you don't belive it's your oppinion. But pleas don't tell that we are cheaters untill one man will be cheated..

This can't be more profitable than a cheap ponzi because this is a cheap ponzi.

Use your brain, pls .. and read how the service works.. for all (for us also) this is better and more profitable than cheap ponzi

Blatant ponzi scheme.

The service works on other priciple. We buy contract across market e.g. genesis-mining, scrypt.cc etc. and also trading with bitcoins. We have no our own mining farm for this service - it is against the main idea. please read previous posts and info on website.

Company info will be added soon.

admin

Where I can find about your company and mining farm? We need proof about the mining farm and company profile, give us a photos which show paper which write a united miners.

And where you have the miners?

This is just another Ponzi hiden behind cloudmining  

How many more Satoshi Nakamoto, how many more...!!!

We will prove hashrate for active investments (it's 0 now so here is nothing to prove) - this is the 'gro' of this service.

You're right. Terrible english. I appologize and hope it will be better.

Domain is .cf free but .com is 5$ so where is difference in credibility?

There will be inforations about us in short time, feel free contact me via PM, I will say more.
By the way where is e.g. 'about info' on scrypt.cc?

Believe or not neither one satoshi will be stolen.


Again, feel free to send pm me and please don't say that we are scammers before.

Regards,
admin

This has scam written all over it.  You don't even mention the top cloudmining sites or what actual hashrate you have on any of them.  How is anyone supposed to know how quickly they will be paid back when you don't tell anyone how much hash backs anything up?

Combine that with a cheap website riddled with bad grammer that doesn't display any information on the people behind the site and I can guarantee you will be stealing peoples money on this one.

DO NOT SEND ANYTHING TO THIS USER.  YOUR FUNDS WILL BE STOLEN!

Your daily revenue is 65.000 Satoshi,
does it mean, that you already get 65.000 satoshi daily from mining? so if s.o invests 100.000 satoshi, he'll get his 125.000 in two days?
kukish

Why not? You don't to invest even 5$ into your site? Oh of course you don't want to, it's a scam.

No, no scam. Free domain, yes, why not. Poor site, yes - i prefer simplicity than colors .. pls read this thread before judge.
And feel free contact me via pm e.g. for skypecall explanation.
Regards,
admin

lol. Free domain and poor website, how obvious scam :O

Hi because I send there some aditive revenue - not from mining from investments but from ads and faucets income etc .. to start investments as "basal revenue".

Real mining revenue from mining is limit to "zero" because there are no bigger investments.

In fact, till there will be no investments, you can use it as a "faucet" .

If actualbalance is > 0 and no investments are in the queue, you can send investment and you will get 125% immediatelly after confirmation - if your payout < actualbalance.  

It's a donation..

Regards,
admin

Hey admin,
why did the first 3 investors get paid, although it's just one day, that has passed?
I mean, that are all in all 637.500 satoshi invested
1% daily = 6.375 satoshi
so it had to take at least 27 days! to pay back to the first investor (invested 137500, has to get back 171875).
could you please explain this?
Kukish

Moved to blockchain api for better transparency.
First unvestments have been paid

Hi, no it's not pyramid.. some examples:

1 user only, investment e.g. 0.01btc :
0,01btc will be invested in cloud mining services portfolio (in this case probably one service)  
it will generate e.g. 0.0001btc daily (1% daily e.g. scrypt.cc, cloudminr.io, hasflare or other without profit reinvestment)
after 125 days it will generate 0.00125btc which will be send to user asap.
result: investment 0.01btc, return 0,0125 after 125 days -- this is the worst scenario

3 users, investments e.g. 0.01btc, 0.02btc, 0.001btc:
0.031 will be invested e.g. for 1% daily
it will generate 0.00031 daily
after 42 days it will generate 0.0125btc and 1st user will be paid.
after next 80days it will generate next 0.025btc and 2nd user will be paid.
after next 4 days it will generate next 0.00125 and 3rd user will be paid.
result: 1. investment 0.01btc, return 0,0125btc after 42 days
          2. investment 0.02btc, return 0,025btc after 122 days
          3. investment 0.001btc return 0.00125btc after 126 days (it's worse only that there is no next or previous user and also that it's too small)

now imagine that the same day when 3rd user will be paid 4th user will make 0.02btc investment:
System will still generate 0,00031 daily from previous investments and 0.0002btc from 4th investment -- suma = 0.00051 daily
So 0.025/0.00051 = 49,02
result: investment 0,02btc, return 0.025btc after 50 days

In fact later investments will have better and better roi so if some service will turn to the scam, due to diversification our system will be affected only a little.

So maybe it can be call this 'UPSIDE-DOWN PYRAMID'

So yes, more investments is better mainly for later investments.


And recalculated ROIs:

1st case only 1 user - it's the same as alone mining - without us in other services.
ROI = 100 days

Users from case 2nd
1st user ROI= 34 days
2nd user ROI = 98 days
3rd user ROI = 101 days
4th user ROI = 40 days

weighted average ROI: 78 days

So with us EVERYBODY has BETTER ROI and LOWER RISK than without us --- it is the reason for UNITED MINERS name

Also we don't need to go away with your money - we will have enough also imagine that after 1year we will stop accept new investments for 1 month only

So it's not ponzi so there is no reason to be a scam

Questions?

regards,
admin

So its a pyramid scheme? 

Hi all,
please read the following

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Scam is defined as

noun
The definition of a scam is slang for a fake scheme to steal money or goods.
An example of a scam is a company that takes a person's work and never pays him.

verb
To scam is defined as to cheat people out of money.
An example of scam is to sell a product, take the money and then never deliver the product.

e.g. http://www.yourdictionary.com/scam

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I'm admin of this site and i make it for prove that this type of business can be win-win scheme.

I'm ready for discuss about this, via forum, PM, email, skype or phone. If you want - fell free to contact me.

I'm from Czech republic, Middle Europe (where scam is illegal), have software development company etc.

In fact about free domain: yes, it's free, why not? functionality is the same, investment will be short-term and in 1 year it will be gone maybe. But it doesn't mean that I will go away with your money.
Of course that here is a some risk but where not? But I will take 0 satoshi till ALL investors will be satisfied in what I belive.

And if I want try cheat you I can make next 'bitcoin doubler' not mining service..

Also in fact you can have legal UK based company (costs 1$, no documents needed), .com domain (8$, registered to this UK comp.), SSL certificate next 8$, german vps server for 4$/month..

So I can make 'REAL AND TRUSTWORTHY' site and company for cca 25$ - it's about 25 beers in my country..

But I believe that communication is all what is reason for this 'liebes briefe'..

So make your own opinion, but please don't say 'it's scam' until you have proove of it..

with regards,
Sindren, admin

  






  

Yes, cex.io is not use for cloud mining but for trading and sometimes for using as mining pool for our own and/or rented hashpower.

And i really don't know that cloudminr is a scam

admin

Seriously? I don't know how anyone buys these scams still...

"All investments from all users are invested into diversified cloud mining and trading services as CEX.IO, cloudminr.io, scrypt.cc and many more. This wide portfolio is balanced for minimalisation of the risks." Damn...  these guys don't even bother to know that Cex.io has suspended their mining services! And... worse... cloudminr.io... another known SCAM!

STAY AWAY!

No,
this site is not SCAM and/or hyip.

This domain is not used for 'mining' and or any storage of coins or data - only for proccessing payments from and to users using FIFO schema (free .dot.cf registrator and amozon ec2 tier cloud vps for site and bitcoin daemon).

Investments are sending to many cloudmining services as scrypt.cc, cloudminr.io, hashflare and many other. Income from these services and trading is distributed via this site back to users.

Investments are short term, if you pay 1btc you will get 1.25btc back. It's all. Due to FIFO schema, when 100 users invest 1btc each then 1st day 1st user get 1.25btc, 2nd day 2nd user get 1.25btc, 3rd day 3rd and 4th users get 1.25btc each etc..

But due to investing in mining cloud services this is not game and will not go to ponzi. fell free to contact me,

your admin 

cloud mining using free domain? scam alert!!!
i believe not anyone want try buy contract and invest their money in your site

due to blockchain synchronisation transaction will be visible in a few hours. You can chech them at blockchain.info now.

what is problem?  Many services with 'heavy-uber' .com domain turns to SCAMs..

So let make it better..  

.cf ?