Topic: Unprecedented political raid on Trump/Redacted affidavit/etc. (Read 633 times)

What do multiple indictments do for the indicted? They make them more popular, and they waste their time. But they often, easily backfire on those doing the indicting.

The below article shows that the Deep State is scraping the bottom of the barrel for ideas on how to  get rid of Trump without actually assassinating him. How does doing this work? It makes some people back off with supporting Trump, because they think he has already won.

If you are in favor of Trump, don't stop your support of him, now. Rather, double your support.


CNN Grudgingly Admits 'Very Real Possibility' Trump Could Win in 2024

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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/07/cnn-grudgingly-admits-very-real-possibility-trump-could/
Writer Harry Enten seems surprised that voters don't really care about the never-ending effort of Democrats to investigate, indict and prosecute Trump over the last six years.

Perhaps people are simply looking at what Biden has done with the country and are comparing it to what the country looked like under Trump.

Breitbart News reports:

CNN Warns 'Very Real Possibility' Trump Could Win It All in 2024

There is a "very real possibility" former President Donald Trump could win it all and return to the White House, CNN warned in a Sunday piece, observing the former president is in a "better position to win the general election" now than he was in 2020.

A CNN piece authored by Harry Enten warns the possibility of Trump winning the general election and returning to the White House is "very real," despite the narrative of critics who surmise that the radical left wants Trump to be the nominee– a narrative wholly rejected by many conservatives, particularly in light of the Biden Department of Justice (DOJ) relentlessly targeting the former president and GOP frontrunner…

Despite the continued targeting of trump, CNN observes that "Trump is not only in a historically strong position for a nonincumbent to win the Republican nomination, but he is in a better position to win the general election than at any point during the 2020 cycle and almost at any point during the 2016 cycle." It cites Trump's domination in the polls, as he is garnering majority support in the primary in national and state-level polls.
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In my opinion, the Georgia case is one of the most serious ones which Trump could be charged with. Not only that we would not be able to pardon himself or convince some Republican president to give him a pardon, it is also one of the cases which have strong evidence to further push it forward.

I don't have any doubt in mind that the famous "I just need 11000 votes, gimme a break" phone call will be played infront of a jury, together with even more damming evidence .

Things are getting interesting...

Georgia next.

Who likes the Biden team and what they have done to Americans and Ukraine?
- They cause Ukraine to have thousands of her men and boys killed in a war that's being lost.
- The have caused outrageous inflation in America, where people can barely live.
- The have used the US government for their own private gain in the millions.
- The are supporting virus warfare development in Ukraine, China, and around the world.
- They are constantly taking freedoms away from Americans.

But check out all the good things that Trump did - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.55119252.

Yep I read about it. They are also indicting by conspiracy some of the personnel that worked for Trump. I do not think that is fair play, but it may be the only way to get to some degree of thruth.

Trump is like an algorithm:
- If someone defies me, I insult.
- If someone says that I have committed a crime, it is a which hunt.
- If someone says I am wrong, is because an agenda.
- If someone says I am lying, it is a partisan issue.

Anyway, I just hope he does not get elected again, it is bad enough to endure a republican agenda without him.

We've got more charges dropping in a superseding indictment that also names a new third co-defendant, the head of maintenance at Trumps beach club.

I've only skimmed the new stuff but looks like it he wiped or tried to wipe the servers with the security footage that was subpoenaed and showed all the boxes being moved around.
 10 new charges, new lying and obstruction related bringing the total up from 32 to 42.  And his lawyers just met with prosecutors about Trumps plot to steal the election with fake electoral votes so he will probably be indicted tomorrow or next week for something like Conspiracy to defraud the United States or (if Jacks balls are big enough) seditious conspiracy in a whole separate case in Washington DC.

https://int.nyt.com/data/documenttools/us-v-trump-nauta-de-oliveira-7-27/895d71fac28b2930/full.pdf

It is quite ridiculous all the argument about the hearsay when speaking of secret documents, but look, I am not saying Trump is guilty, I am saying that he is being indicted for acts that are actually quite serious and certainly illegal. That is not hearsay, that is the nature of the charges.

Now, if these can be proven or not is a different matter, but this is not about which hunting, is about not being fit for holding an office - in other words, you can do whatever politics you want, but not convert facts in a partisan issue.

More and more the whole Trump prosecution looks like a political sham, designed to keep Trump out of the White House.


REVEALED: Corrupt DOJ Prosecutor Caught Trying to Bribe Lawyer Redacted Every Reference to Trump Cooperating with Subpoenas

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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/07/revealed-corrupt-doj-prosecutor-caught-trying-bribe-lawyer/
New court documents show that DOJ prosecutor Jay Bratt, an Obamaite-Russiagate-DNC donor, redacted every reference to Trump cooperating with subpoenas.

Recall, Jay Bratt tried to bribe Walt Naut's lawyer Stanley Woodward in order to get his client to testify against Trump.

New court documents show Jay Bratt purposely redacted all references to Trump cooperating with grand jury subpoenas.

Magistrate Judge Bruce Reinhart approved new aspects of the Trump Mar-a-Lago search warrant to be unsealed.

Last August the Biden Justice Department released a highly redacted Trump raid affidavit.

Media organizations asked to unseal the affidavit in support of the search warrant.

Only a redacted version was previously unsealed.

The newly unredacted search warrant affidavit reveals Jay Bratt used dirty tricks to make Trump look uncooperative.

More proof the FBI raid was a political hit job.

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BREAKING: In another sign the Mar-a-Lago raid was political, the DOJ prosecutor who authorized it --DNC donor and Russiagate alum Jay Bratt --blacked out every reference to Trump cooperating with subpoenas from the publicly released search warrant affidavit, new court docs reveal
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An even more serious point about your serious question: Trump, in his handling of government docs, was doing what he said.

You seem to want to focus on a Trump needle in the Biden haystack of criminality. Trump is attempting to bring down that haystack. And all you can do is focus on something that Trump had the right to do.

So we see. You are against the United States... or at least in favor of being paid off enough that you don't seem to care. Don't you even realize that the Biden criminality that Trump is trying to curtail is destroying more and more of your freedoms all the time? And that even if you are living in a different country?

It is American freedom that is keeping the world free. And MAGA is Trump's process to make America strong so that she can continue to keep the world free.




EDIT: Almost anything that the Dems do against Trump can be called election interference, and open them up to all kinds of prosecution. Maybe Hunter should run for President, just to protect himself from laptop prosecution - "Election Interference!": Trump Rages, Comer Condemns Hunter Biden's "Slap On The Wrist" Misdemeanor Deal >>> https://zerohedge.com/political/hunter-biden-plead-guilty-tax-crimes-admit-gun-charge.

Doesn't matter if they were classified.  Here's the law he's being charged with for the 31 documents he refused to return, attempted to hide, and lied to the government about.


(e)Whoever having unauthorized possession of, access to, or control over any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, or note relating to the national defense, or information relating to the national defense which information the possessor has reason to believe could be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of any foreign nation, willfully communicates, delivers, transmits or causes to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted, or attempts to communicate, deliver, transmit or cause to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted the same to any person not entitled to receive it, or willfully retains the same and fails to deliver it to the officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it;

In other words, if you have have government documents about nuclear capabilities of the US and foreign countries, and the government asks you to give them back, then tells you to give them back, then subpoenas you to give them back, you can either give them back or be indicted on federal charges.



Serious question: did you agree with Trump when he said these things:

That's the point. You still think that they are classified, so you won't read them even if you have access to them... right? Or would you read them?


I guess we will have to wait for the answer to these things. Neither of us, nor the major media, has the ability to adjudicate this.


That is simply rhetoric. It's like if you were in and out of your house all yesterday. Then, this morning you locked yourself out. Then you said, " As owner of the house, I could have gotten in all day yesterday, but now I can't get in."

President's don't simply do things that they can't. Trump checked into all the details before he declassified the docs, to make sure he was allowed.


Hearsay, until we get down to the nitty-gritty. Did the experts check into all the reasoning why Trump declassified?... if they even said this? Other experts, including Clinton's attorney in the case Clinton won, said that Trump had every right... Clinton Case VINDICATES Trump! - https://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/345301-2023-06-13-clinton-case-vindicates-trump.htm.



As you said. Your sources don't mean anything, because innocent until proven guilty. However, because US law is by contract more than it is by Constitution or 'black letter law', Trump could lose. But the real point is, guilty or innocent, Trump is being pressured politically by the Biden administration to keep him out of the Presidency in 2024.

How do we know? Because the tiny amounts of something that Trump might have done illegally or immorally are nothing compared with the 'big bad' Biden is doing out in the open all the time. The Dems behind Biden have found the Trump-needle in the Biden haystack, and that is all they are focusing on, and trying to keep us focused on.



Former federal prosecutor finds numerous problems with indictment documents against Trump

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https://www.naturalnews.com/2023-06-19-former-federal-prosecutor-half-dozen-problems-indictment-docs-against-trump.html
A former assistant U.S. attorney has looked at the 37-count indictment against former President Donald Trump and has concluded that the case is essentially political in nature and should never stand up in a real court of law.

Trump was charged last week in connection with his handling of classified documents. He appeared in a federal court in Miami on Tuesday and pleaded not guilty to all of them. In comments since, Trump has said that, under provisions of the Presidential Records Act, he and he alone, as president, had the authority to declassified documents at will and declare them non-presidential records.

Now, Will Scharf, writing in The Federalist, laid out six problems he sees with the indictment.

“Interplay” between the Presidential Records Act and the Espionage Act

Section 793(e) of the Espionage Act, which Trump has been charged under, “requires the government to prove that the defendant knew he had National Defense Information (NDI) in his possession, knew there was a government official entitled to receive the information, and then willfully failed to deliver it to that official,” Scharf wrote.

“This is a very high set of mens rea bars to jump in any circumstance. Proving a defendant’s intent and knowledge can often be tough. But it’s even tougher here because of the Presidential Records Act,” he said, adding:

The Presidential Records Act sets up a system where the president designates all records that he creates either as presidential or personal records (44 U.S.C. § 2203(b)). A former president is supposed to turn over his presidential records to the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA), and he has the right to keep his personal records.
Brighteon.TV

Based on the documents I’ve read and his actions I’ve read about, I believe Trump viewed his “boxes” as his personal records under the PRA.

National Defense info and classification
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No, I cannot read them, they are Top Secret and I do not have clearance and I have not participated in parties at Mar-a-Lago, which is the other way of having direct access to these.

No, Trump did not declassify the documents.

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/06/09/politics/trump-tape-didnt-declassify-secret-information/index.html


No, Trump cannot declassify just like that:

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-lacked-power-declassify-secret-nuclear-arms-document-experts-say-2023-06-18/


No, my sources of information are an order of magnitude better than yours. That can be checked across your post history easily.

Finally note that I say, subject to verdict. Innocent until proven guilty. Unfortunately, it is more likely that Trump did everything he is accused of than the FBI and the doj being in cahoots on a super-conspiracy that would require the involvement of hundreds of people.

^^^ You have read the documents? You have determined that they are top secret and classified? Or are you only listening to hearsay?

Why is your determination greater than the President of the United States, Donald Trump, who declassified these documents his last day in office? https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.62425530

If you read the documents, and you think they should remain classified, aren't you the real criminal by your own admittance, by voluntarily reading documents that you say are classified? Or show us your top secret clearance.

But if you didn't read them, why are you simply believing a bunch of blabbermouths who say they were or should be classified over what the President said and did... declassification?

1 - No, this is not a political raid. It is a raid by the law enforcement.
2 - Trump is not a victim. He has committed, pending a verdict, a number of federal crimes that place the US in jeopardy. These include leaving Top Secret documents in places where many people could have access and not returning the documents even after no longer being President and being officially requested to do so.
3 - It would actually be unfair for the people who have actually gone to prison or even being executed for failing to protect secrets not to judge Trump.

Again, playing the victim card over and over. do you remember the saying "the fact that I am paranoid does not mean I am not being followed?", well, the fact that he has made many enemies does not mean he is not guilty of quite a few crimes.

Now you know why Trump declassified government documents his last day in office. It was so that he could take them legally, and use them in his fight to destroy the evil deep state.


Now you know why they raided Mar a Lago...

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https://twitter.com/dc_draino/status/1666443247416164355
Signed letter from President Trump on Jan 19, 2021, the day before he left office, declassifying “Crossfire Hurricane” docs showing Obama, Biden, the CIA, DOJ, and FBI spied on him
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Well...we have an update and tons of answers with a 49 page federal indictment and 31 federal charges against Trump, mostly violations of the espionage act.


It turns out that the Washington Post was correct.  Document #19:




Actually, the documents weren't stored in a SCIFF. 

They were stored in a few different places while Trump directed his people to move them around a few times while they were hiding the documents from the United States and lying about it.



And we've got pictures:





This is one of my favorite pages:

Trumps lawsuit was thrown out today.  It was clearly nothing more than a delay tactic, but the way things were going I'm surprised the appeals court ended it so abruptly.

The FBI now has full access to all the stolen documents recovered from Trumps basement, as well as the classified documents recently found in one of his storage units.

Sometimes I envy your ability to detach from reality.

You can only try. For this kind of action, it has to be a claim, man to man directly, with evidence and at least one witness. This means no attorneys can be formally involved. Otherwise, Gore would have won against Bush back in 2000. SCOTUS is on the ball.

Trump tried to get SCOTUS involved with 11th circuit appeals court ruling:

So I think I figured out where PrimeNumber7 got this bonkers idea from that the president can just say any document is personal and then take it home with him to keep when he's no longer President anymore.




When Bill Clinton was president, he kept an audio journal for a future memoire.  Nobody knew about it when he was president, and he hid the tapes in his sock drawer.  After he left office, word got out and the right wing activist group Judicial watch sued for access to the tapes citing the presidential records act.  The judge ruled that Clintons personal recordings of himself were personal records, not presidential records, and Judicial Watch lost the law suit.  

That's it.  That's the case that Trump is trying to use to argue that he had the right to take pretty much whatever the fuck he wanted, including documents classified at the highest levels.  Apparently his lawyers even brought up the case in a recent filing.  I'm guessing PrimeNumber7 heard some right wing idiot pitching the idea and just ran with it without using his brain first and has since realized how stupid it is (since he kind of dropped it after I pointed out the stupidity).

Still playing like you have all the evidence, and that your hearsay is the right hearsay.

Why won't you tell us what you really have against Trump? Why do you select him and pick on him in such detail, when there are thousands of others who have done far worse things and far fewer good things?

At this point it's pretty clear that's a lie.  Here are a few reasons:

- There's no evidence he declassified them.
- He's only made that claim off the record.  In court, where lying has real consequences, no claims have been made that the documents were declassified.
- Dozens of former Trump staffers, including 3 of his chiefs of staff had said there was no standing order to declassify anything.
- I don't think any former staffers have backed up his claim.
- It's Donald Trump.

Don't be so gullible.

And if Trump were innocent don't you think PrimeNumber7 would be coming up with something better than "You really don't know what Clinton, or Obama took because their houses weren't raided by their political opponents." to defend him?

^^^ Trump had declassified the other docs.

You keep hanging onto hearsay in the wild attempt to get rid of Trump somehow. Why? You don't point fingers at Obama or Clinton nearly as much as Trump. What is it that he did to you that makes you so against him? Come on out with it so that the rest of us know.

Could it really be that you have a one-track mind, and that you are a hateful person down deep, and Trump just happens to be your focus this time? I mean, all you have to do is look at the track records of both Biden and Trump. You can easily see the mess we are in under Biden. But we weren't anywhere near this kind of mess with Trump. In fact, things were getting better with Trump.

Yet, you don't pick on Biden anywhere near as much as you pick on Trump. Is it that you are Biden's good buddy, and that you are trying to take the focus off his stupidity and wickedness by placing it on Trump? MAGA... are you a foreign plant of some kind that you are so against America?

In simple words, say a short paragraph or two, tell us why you are so irritated with a few little hearsay things Trump might have done, but you barely mention all the Clinton/Obama/Biden out-in-the-open things that they did and that Biden is still doing.

I suppose it's possible Obama stole a bunch of sensitive documents and got away with it because National Security was not taken seriously while he was in office.  I think it's more likely Obama didn't steal anything though.  But agree, who knows?


No, a SCIF is more secure than Trumps basement/floor of his closet/desk drawer at a country club that has been known to be infiltrated by foreign agents and membership requires a big check, not a security clearance.

Recovering stolen documents classified at the highest levels is and urgent matter of National Security.  

The government did seek to enforce a subpoena.  Trump pretended to comply - returned one envelope of classified documents and had his lawyer and former OANN anchor certify that there were no more classified documents on property.  I've already explained all this to you, keep up.

You really don't know what Clinton, or Obama took because their houses weren't raided by their political opponents.

The specific location the documents were stored in was the same location that classified documents were stored in when Trump was President. The entire compound is under 24/7 secret service protection, and the location in question is likely more secure than many SCIFs, including the one in Hilary Clinton's closet. There was no urgency in getting the documents back. There is no reason why the government couldn't have sought to enforce the subpoena.

We all help each other. We all deserve gratitude from each other.

I would also like to thank af_newbie for informing BADecker what's really going on in the world.

Yep, you missed the most important thing. You missed the 'thank you' for informing you about what's really going on in the world. Of course, your little recap is brief enough that it is easily missing a lot. But you should even be paying me for helping you finally get some of it right.

His first post was almost exactly 8 years ago.

Since then he's averaged about 12 posts a day and created almost 1,000 new threads.  No signature campaign...but....Vast majority of threads are same format and just a link + summary of article from fake news site.  Often ends with something like


He's either a paid shill for fake news or he's 100% insane.  Or both.  Probably both.

Yeah, I think you covered most of the them, albeit you could browse his post history and
probably come up with hundreds more that are just as deluded, if not more.
In my 9 years of hanging out on bitcointalk, I can say without doubt, no one comes close to the sheer volume of lunacy BADecker
spams this forum with.  And I'm quite sure I am not alone in this assessment.

I mean, yeah, I guess we can't say with absolute certainty that Trump was the first president to steal classified documents on his way out of office and then keep them in his basement as a civilian..  Just the first to get caught.  But, I think it's a pretty safe assumption to make that no other president has done that, especially at the scale Trump did.

Here's the rest of the quote from Barr on Fox News:







The National Archives followed proper protocol and informed the DOJ when they realized that Trump had stolen sensitive government documents and refused to return them as a civilian, more than a year after losing the election.

How would Bill Barr know what other presidents did with documents that were at one point classified? Absent similar raids on former presidents, it is really not possible to know what other former presidents did.

You left out the part when the National Archives sought to judicially enforce the subpoena. Oh wait.....that never happened.

If it comes to the Brotherhood or the secret government to take over the world, I used to think that all American presidents are chosen by the secret organization and must be members of it, what makes Trump different from them? Does he have different goals or does he want to get out of control? I don't know, but such things happen completely in secret and it is difficult to judge.
I used to see Trump as a businessman who seeks to achieve his personal interests before achieving the interests of his country.

Here is the answer to why so many are against Trump. The straight forward answer is simple. But the working of it is more detailed.

The direct answer is this. Trump wants to make America great. World big-money people want to make America part of a world government that they control. It will take a bit of thinking to understand how world control works, with all the nations being equal to each other. But that's how it works. No nation greater than any other. And the people dumbed down enough to not realize what is happening.

Trump, himself, isn't much. He's overweight, and not a man I would want to be physically or mentally like... necessarily. The thing that is important is that he is broadcasting freedom for the masses. And as President, he was carrying it out... at least in appearance.

But imagine that behind Trump's freedom show was really a plan to enslave people. To enslave, you have to dumb them down enough that they think they are free, but really aren't. I mean, give the people the illusion of freedom, but don't really release the chains (Putin). Trump wasn't doing that. He was really giving freedom. You can see it in some of the deregulating he was doing, which Biden reversed as much as he could.

You can't take the freedom away from truly free people. How far can you go giving the illusion of freedom, without finally giving true freedom? True freedom, when you think about it deeply, is a form of enslavement, itself. When/if the world is all truly free... when all the nations are totally free as individual people... then they are enslaved to their own ideas of what freedom is... even if it is something that is not free. Big-money doesn't realize this, and so they are against the one thing that will make people slaves... true freedom.

Why is Big-money missing this? They are impatient. They want it now. After all, it has taken hundreds (or thousands) of years, and they haven't gotten real control, yet. And the reason why is their stumbling point. They always act too soon... like they are doing with Biden.

The point is that they hate Trump because he appears to be taking away from their plan of controlling the world in their lifetime. And they are using every tool they have to destroy him for this... even getting the people to hate him for almost no reason at all, and for far less reason than people would hate Biden.

Nope.

Does Biden look like someone that has a mind of his own?

Biden can't even weaponize his dick on women, let alone his brain which he don't have left any.

Someone is weaponizing DOJ though, that's easily visible but It is surely not Biden.

I checked the list you made of Trump's good accomplishments, well I must say it contains many good things indeed, but I'm not an American and I don't know if these things are good for fellow Americans or not, but I know through the media that Trump has a bad reputation so I can Saying he did bad things also earned him that reputation.
 I'm not a fan of President Biden at all, and I don't know if there are any good things he did so I can't give you a list, I'm just saying that all politicians are as bad as each other and they all steal people's money into their own pockets. I'm not saying Trump is better than Biden or vice versa.
In the end, I think it's a media war.

What don't you like about Trump. Check here (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5313290) for a long list of dozens of things that Trump did that are good. But if you have such a list of bad things, please list them.

Now, I'm sure that you won't say that all of these points are good. But can you list some of Biden's good things? Or do you like the depression and the war and the bilking of $billions from the US coffers that make it into Biden's pockets and those of many other government people?

Trump never did anything like that. But Biden is essentially doing it right out in the open with Ukraine.

They are all worse than each other, Democrats are worse than Republicans and vice versa, but in my opinion Trump was the worst and I do not think that Americans will repeat the mistake again by electing Trump, he raised a lot of problems during his administration in America and in the world as well, so I do not expect him to reach a second term Except through dirty political games.

Turns out that Trump is going to pay the biggest penalty for his tiny misdeeds. He's going to get elected in 2024, and then he will have the gigantically humongous job of cleaning up the messes - around the world - that the Biden administration and the Dem leaders made with their illegal activities.

Poor Trump. Nobody should be subject to that kind of torture. Just like he didn't recognize in 2020 the depths to which the Dems would stoop to steal an election, even now he doesn't realize the mess that he will have to clean up in the 4 years following the 2024 election.

No one is above the law, it is true that Trump is a former president and has diplomatic immunity, but in fact he is a thief who stole important secret documents related to American national security. There may be political goals behind this incident, but these are matters that can never be tolerated. Trump has done very badly for his country during his presidential term and now he is paying the price for his misdeeds.

- The pope was arrested.
- Republicans will never lose another election because all the democrats will die from the vaccine.
- Germs aren't real.


And if it's confirmed these documents are what the Washington Post is claiming (and they seem pretty confident) , then all the idiots screaming about how "ThEy wErE dEcLasIfIeD!"  some how look like even bigger idiots.

So let's recap your worldview:

- Universe was created by God in six days
- Plants existed on Earth before the Sun was formed
- Earth is 10,000 years old
- the Bible is the word of God
- snakes can talk
- slavery is good
- women need to be controlled/owned by men
- human zygotes have the same rights and protections as human beings
- killing for adultery is justified
- kiiling of gays is justified
- Russia did not invade Ukraine
- Ukrainians are Nazis
- Trump is the current president of the USA

Did I miss anything?

The fact that Trump is simply exercising the Office of the Presidency - Biden's attempted steal making a fake President Biden in office - shows that Trump should have had a whole lot more government docs in his home office.

The fact that he was in possession of these documents demonstrates that he is not fit to hold ANY political office.

Never mind his linguistic gaffes every time he opens his mouth.

It's good that Trump had all those documents. How else is a President supposed to run the country from outside the Oval Office?

The National Archives asked him to return all documents.  He gave them 15 boxes.  They figured out he still had some.

DOJ subpoenaed him for all documents.

Trump invited them to come pick up the rest in Florida.  They gave them an envelope and a lawyer swore that was it, no more documents (but they wouldn't let them look in any of the boxes in his basement.



FBI gets search warrant, finds tons of documents in basement, and also in his desk.



Trump throws tantrum and feeds a bunch of bullshit about him fully cooperating and being a victim of the DOJ to his brain dead supporters.  They eat it up.

i think this is the first time in decades that an ex-president's house has been raided by the fbi, it's also natural because trump brought a lot of classified documents into his private home, which is supposed to be in the national archives building... but the biden administration should have used it a more "friendly" move because after all trump is a former president and he should be respected regardless of the controversy

Bill Barr, Trumps Attorney General also thinks it's unusual, here's what he had to say:

“People say this was unprecedented, well, it’s also unprecedented for a president to take all this classified information and put them in a country club, okay?”





I'm sharing with you what I think happened after reading the evidence.  Calm down Johnnie Cochran.  

It is certainly unusual for a search warrant to be used in a document dispute between a President and the national archives. Or in any document dispute. Perhaps it would have been more appropriate to have a court enforce the subpoena.

Do you have a source for there being a credible witness coming forward and testifying as you describe? I know that you don't have a source regarding the contents of the allegedly classified information because the documents have not been made public. The affidavit was sufficiently redacted so that it is not possible to know what information the court actually relied upon when granting the search warrant.

It's turning out that the guy who was responsible for the FBI's direct actions in the raid, has been acting illegally in his FBI position for years. FBI whistleblowers are bringing this into the open.


The Start of the Unraveling of the Trump Mar A Lago Raid

So we have an update.
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.618763/gov.uscourts.flsd.618763.48.1_2.pdf

In late May, the DOJ served Trump with a subpoena to turn over:




On June 3, Trump complied, and had one of his liars certify:



And then the FBI went in and found theses (along with a bunch more):




Trump better announce his candidacy soon if he wants to be indicted while running for president...

I think Trump stole a bunch of documents that belonged to the federal government on his way out of office.  

Eventually he gave back 15 boxes to the National archives.

The National Archives found classified documents in those 15 boxes, and noticed there were some missing, so they told the DOJ.

The DOJ subpoenaed Trump to give the rest back.

After returning more boxes his lawyer swore to the FBI that was all of them.  Then, some witnesses came forward and told the FBI that Trump had more boxes of classified documents in his basement and office.  Some of these documents contained information that would put the lives of US assets at risk.

At this point, I don't see any other option AG Garland had but to go and secure the documents via a search warrant.  The search warrant was executed and, surprise surprise, they found exactly what they said they would.

Trump could have returned all the documents when he was asked the first time, or subpoenaed and avoided all of this.  He could have just not stolen any documents.  But he didn't. 100% of the blame lies with Trump and he should be held accountable for his actions.  Trump was not King, and he is not King now.  Stop treating him like he is.  Or even better, ask yourself if you would be making the same argument for Biden if Trump wins in 2024 and Biden steals a bunch of government documents and then refuses to give them back.  Would you be outraged if the FBI raided his Delaware basement to retrieve documents that Biden stole?  

No.  You wouldn't.  And I wouldn't either.  That's because I'm able to look at this kind of situation objectively without influence from political opinions or emotions.

On August 8, 2022, the FBI, pursuant to a search warrant, raided the home of the legitimately elected former President, Donald Trump. This was an unprededented event and was clearly motivated by politics.

It appears that the DOJ intended to "prosecute" Trump via leaks to the friendly press by leaking either inaccurate information or information that is taken out of context. An example of this to date includes leaks to the Washington Post suggesting that some of the "classified" documents in Trump's home were related to "nuclear" secrets.

From the looks of it, the dispute in question appears to be a document dispute between Trump and the National Archives. There is no evidence presented to date that suggests a search warrant was necessary.

The unredacted version of the affidavit that was used to support the search warrant on Trump's home contained no information that suggested evidence of a crime would be found at Trump's home. Prior to the DOJ being ordered to release a redacted version of said affidavit, both Trump and Republican lawmakers have been calling for the DOJ to become transparent regarding the investigation and the case. After the affidavit was released, with its heavy redactions, many continue to slam the DOJ for their lack of transparency.

All of this comes after the DOJ described angry parents who were critical of the Biden Administration's allies (the teacher's unions) as "terrorists".

What do you think? Has Biden weaponized the DOJ against his political opponents? Has the DOJ and FBI lost all credibility?