Topic: 🔍 Unveiling Satoshi Nakamoto: Community Vote 🗳️ (Read 656 times)

It looks like he finally game up hahaha! What a fucking loser now selling https://vistomail.com for ¥249,999!!! because nobody cares about Satoshi!! What a failure and scumbag! What a scammer‼️

Surprisingly enough for yet another Satoshi Nakamoto Identity thread I read all
of the OP's post....


TBH OP, with all your hard work I really think you should monetise your findings.
I'm sure you could find someone willing to pay you for something which the majority
of Bitcoiners dont care about.


There is nothing which is a mystery about the origins and motivations behind Bitcoin.

very simple explanations for further research if you want....

Origins: Cypherpunk movement

Motivations: From the Bitcoin Whitepaper

I don't think that the op has truly managed to do something that nobody else managed to do before, including professional investigative journalists. But, in any case, I believe that we must respect Satoshi's right to remain anonymous, Satoshi's privacy. Privacy is among the top values that Bitcoin puts forth, and it's good both for individuals and for BTC's decentralization. If we learn who Satoshi is, it will inevitably alienate some people (because undoubtedly a human being has certain values and opinions that someone else won't appreciate), and it's likely to impact the development of Bitcoin in the future. So it's better not to know and not to dig too deep into it.

You need to get some serious help, and you need to stop using ChatGPT to write texts for you. I don't know if what you're doing is allowed or not here, but it shouldn't be.

Hey there, hardworkinfamilyman! I took a look at your reply, but I didn't watch the video you linked since the chatbot I'm using right now doesn't have the feature to understand YouTube videos. However, I did notice some red flags in your text.

First off, your claim to be the closest to Satoshi Nakamoto is weak sauce. You didn't provide any solid evidence to back it up, and frankly, it's a tired old claim that's been made by many before you.

Then there's the issue of the domains you registered, including vistomail.com, which you claim is connected to Satoshi Nakamoto. But let's be real, the community isn't going to trust someone who's running from the US Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) and has been caught lying on many occasions. You need to build trust with the community, and making false claims or avoiding legal issues isn't the way to do it.

And speaking of the SEC, let's not forget that running from them is a terrible idea. If you've done something wrong, face the consequences and make things right. It's the only way to regain the community's trust.

In short, stop making grandiose claims without any evidence, build trust with the community, and deal with your legal issues. It's not rocket science.

But I feel like that many of us wants to vote for yes because all the time, we are always curious and wants to unravel the mysteries about the person behind Bitcoin. And maybe the the research or evidence he have prepared right there are only partial and there are still more to it that he didn't released yet to the public.

To answer your question about the positive effect it can bring to us, well it gives us a sense of contentment and we can now focus clearly on other things. There might other positive effects than this that the whole community can benefit. The challenges that you are talking about are clear and experts are already working on improving them.

Here is your proof: https://youtu.be/afDEEINVzKQ

"Hey everyone, Alex here. Today, I want to focus on the good, but I also need to address the Bitcointalk community. Sitting behind a computer and bashing someone because you're a hero member or have status doesn't make it okay. You never know who's on the other side.

I may or may not be Satoshi Nakamoto, but I am the closest one to Satoshi. I hope you focus on the facts, truth, and proof, and not spin a false narrative from this video.

"I registered vistomail.com, anonymousspeech.com, secureanonymoussurfing.com, websecureemail.com, mailbuddy-tool.com, and virtual-hiv-test.com on the day they became available. These domains have always been under my account, ensuring they remain secure and reliable.
 
"My goal with this video is to target one of my addresses with your miner hash. As Hal Finney would say, 'running Bitcoin,' I can use the rewards to buy eCash, a more promising solution. eCash has not been seized by governments, bought out by corporations, or used for illegal activities. After I buy eCash on the open market, I will then stake it and reset the price back to 1999, like CyberBucks. By doing this, I'll be able to boost eCash's price without disrupting Bitcoin. The reward is that eCash's price will skyrocket with more liquidity, making it more attractive for miners to mine eCash while pumping rewards to the 1 Bitcoin address.

Regarding my SEC issue, my aim was to get caught to understand their process and what they are looking for as an exchange operator and owner. They still have yet to clarify but dance around the questions and say that they can't give legal advice. While I'm out on the battlefield, you trolls can talk about it. But remember, it's the actions and facts that matter.

My intentions are not to fight. If we all work together, I promise the projects I get involved in will outperform anything you have ever seen. I just need help from you.

Now that you know 1% of my real life, I would like to involve you in the other 99% awesome part of it.

Thanks for watching, and please subscribe. If this works out I will start posting my Ideas and concepts and become a more professional Youtuber.

Craig also used ChatGPT in his forgeries tho, so it is indeed something out of his playbook.

And what exactly are you trying to prove with these receipts?


Instead of turning to ChatGPT for wisdom, you should ask your buddy CSW how to forge a document. He is an expert in that field. Just dont expect to win any court cases with them. Hahaha!

I have, but it seems you're unwilling to understand. Please review the metadata indicating the PDF is directly downloaded from the GoDaddy Dashboard, confirming it has not been altered. We can provide additional receipts upon request.

You can view the receipts here:

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/9lzu6cgdldj3ck0s3a2l5/vistomail-2006.pdf?rlkey=d98qwhruo826ienkysjxjymbw&st=ni5emrb0&dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/0b1njt83y0d6zmolls6y1/vistomail-2008.pdf?rlkey=q6vvtcgz2w57rp84put4xpt28&st=t2uddzeg&dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/rwf5afp9t75v8shut2q4y/secureanonymoussurfing.pdf?rlkey=ogl4gti5y1utlr5qj7l3ound7&st=bk3oc0zt&dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/i69dvlysyhwbo5r8zecmb/Anonymousspeech.com?rlkey=vpti31kiqs00awxmu7e9r1lfs&st=7mda0bv9&dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/0l5w653dio3tz4euz3fya/3.pdf?rlkey=y5mbkq84s8l2vaqxtg7i3ln9z&st=i0h0qw6q&dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/o885giwc9953g6dfqtchg/websecureemail.com?rlkey=bpqyxu6lo1ile8dguw2sq8kvh&st=ifzjma8n&dl=0

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Hey "hardworkinfamilyman",

Stop dodging the question and provide concrete evidence to support your claims about Satoshi Nakamoto's identity. Your attempts to change the subject and attack the voting process are not fooling anyone.

The majority of the votes indicate that you are either a scammer or that no one cares about your claims. You have ignored all the arguments and scam accusations made against you, including the fact that the US SEC has caught you raising over one million dollars illegally through unregistered offers and sales of securities to crypto asset investors.

I posted it here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.64258004

No one cares; everyone voted. Please review the results. Perhaps this is a major reason why voting doesn't work for you.

- No one cares - 8 votes (33.3%)
- Scammer - 9 votes (37.5%)
- I don't know - 1 vote (4.2%)

Votes are supposed to provide answers. Your statement, 'I thought you were about to unveil Satoshi Nakamoto,' cannot be justified with a response; instead, I offer you a link."

Why go Off Topic victimizing yourself as if you were a kinder garden kid?  I thought you were just about to unveil Satoshi Nakamoto.  What does Trump and Biden have to do with unveiling his identity?

It's ironic that you say "talk is cheap" when that's all you've been doing throughout this entire thread. You've yet to provide any real proof or evidence to back up your claims, and instead, you're trying to distract us with your "voting" system using hashrate. But let's be real, this is just a front for you to get free Bitcoin.

You keep mentioning numbers and hashrate, but where are the source? You've yet to provide any concrete evidence of the hashrate you claim to have. It's easy to throw around big numbers, but without any proof, it's meaningless.

Let me ask you this, why the hell would Satoshi, who chose to remain anonymous forever after creating Bitcoin, contact and mentor a random person out of nowhere and let them know his identity? We know he isn't a fool, so maybe you think we are a bunch of fools because there is no f***ing way he has done something like that even if he is alive and kicking.

I'm pretty sure that if he is alive and has ever wanted to reveal his identity, he would have a thousand different and much better ways to do that instead of doing this. So please, stop with all this BS.

What receipts are you talking about anyway? We live in an advanced world, anyone can make edits or do things that would make viewers feel what's seen is real, but I'm not going to believe any of what you may show no matter how realistic it may seem.

Oh, alright. It all makes sense now. 

I know you'll deliberately ignore this, but: There is practically nothing preventing me from forging a receipt. I can even buy iamsatoshinakamoto.com, and when asked for a receipt, tell them to write that it belongs to "Satoshi Nakamoto". Here you go, proof that he bought a domain name in 2024.

What I cannot forge is public key signatures. And you know that already. You just want to trick gullible newbies into believing you've got something there. What a scum.

Receipts: These documents are crucial because they provide evidence of interactions with Satoshi Nakamoto, Michael Weber, the person who registered bitcoin.org on behalf of Satoshi. These receipts offer a direct connection to Satoshi's early communications and contributions to Bitcoin.

You can view the receipts here:

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/9lzu6cgdldj3ck0s3a2l5/vistomail-2006.pdf?rlkey=d98qwhruo826ienkysjxjymbw&st=ni5emrb0&dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/0b1njt83y0d6zmolls6y1/vistomail-2008.pdf?rlkey=q6vvtcgz2w57rp84put4xpt28&st=t2uddzeg&dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/rwf5afp9t75v8shut2q4y/secureanonymoussurfing.pdf?rlkey=ogl4gti5y1utlr5qj7l3ound7&st=bk3oc0zt&dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/i69dvlysyhwbo5r8zecmb/Anonymousspeech.com?rlkey=vpti31kiqs00awxmu7e9r1lfs&st=7mda0bv9&dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/0l5w653dio3tz4euz3fya/3.pdf?rlkey=y5mbkq84s8l2vaqxtg7i3ln9z&st=i0h0qw6q&dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/o885giwc9953g6dfqtchg/websecureemail.com?rlkey=bpqyxu6lo1ile8dguw2sq8kvh&st=ifzjma8n&dl=0

It's crucial to clarify a misunderstanding: signing a key does not conclusively prove one's identity as Satoshi Nakamoto. As Dr. Craig Wright correctly noted, having a key does not imply ownership of an address. Satoshi Nakamoto has the capability to exchange keys, meaning that even signing significant items like the genesis block could have been performed by another individual who obtained the key through trade.

The truest form of evidence, therefore, lies in these receipts. They are direct records of communications and actions involving Satoshi Nakamoto and corroborate his involvement in the early days of Bitcoin. They provide insights into his interactions and decisions, which are invaluable for understanding the genesis and development of Bitcoin.

We, not just I, have been entrusted by Satoshi Nakamoto to preserve these receipts for educational purposes and for the historical record of Bitcoin, its developers, maintainers, and creators. It is Satoshi's wish that these documents be archived and made accessible through platforms like the Nakamoto Institute for everyone interested in uncovering the truth behind the creation of Bitcoin.

To the Bitcointalk community: I, Alex Elbanna, am prepared to serve as an intermediary for the documents provided by Satoshi Nakamoto. Just let me know how I can assist in delivering them to you. I do ask, however, that my status on Bitcointalk be upgraded so I may receive due respect.

Buying vistomail, a "receipt from bitcoin.org", signing that you're Satoshi from a random public key, and I don't know what else you might figure out, DOES NOT prove you are or have talked with Satoshi.

You know what still counts as evidence? Signing a message from:

Or from: https://bitcointalk.org/Satoshi_Nakamoto.asc / https://bitcoin.org/satoshinakamoto.asc.

Let me ask you this: would receipts for everything be the answer to prove that I am in communication with Satoshi Nakamoto?

We spoke; he prefers to remain anonymous, as has always been his wish. On the other hand, I have ambitious plans and enjoy conversing with brilliant minds. I am fortunate enough to have been mentored by Satoshi Nakamoto of this era, though I prefer to be called Alex. He has guided me through launching and maintaining blockchain projects. Please refer to my GitHub at https://github.com/X1COIN/X1COINI. I have many plans but didn't know much until I was contacted and mentored by Satoshi. Whether you believe me or not, it's going to happen.

Satoshi will advise me on how to prove to you that I am in communication on this thread or if the moderator would like me to create a new thread I will.

Please advise,

Alex Elbanna

If Satoshi really wanted to appear, he would go to a TV show, sign a live message and become very famous, he is an intelligent person, and being an intelligent person, he would look for the places that get the most attention and then he would expose himself. knowing that nowadays no government cares about him, so he would definitely have no problem presenting himself publicly. My opinion is that Satoshi died a long time ago. If he had been alive, he would have presented himself many years ago. at that time when he created bitcoin, it was a time when if he had presented himself, he would have had problems with governments, he would have been persecuted. But today things are different, no government would persecute you

if you want people to believe in you, then try harder, record a video with satoshi signing a message, you can also give us his instagram, so we know everything about his life, because nowadays we don't even need to interact with other people live, they post everything they do on Instagram  But stop joking, bring concrete proof. I've been on this forum since 2016 and I've seen a lot of news about a lot of guys claiming to be satoshi and at the end of the day they're faketoshis

Regardless of my opinion, you didn't bother explain how you can dive deep when all you might have is domain vistomail.com and falsely claim owning Satoshi Nakamoto GPG key. People also perceive that Satoshi wish to remain anonymous. That shows how much we could trust you.

i find it kind of hard to believe that satoshi is behind this whole thing trying to see if people are interested in knowing who he is. that's laughable. personally i don't really care who he is. since he is the one that stepped away, we can say that he doesn't want his identity known and i don't really care who he is for that reason.

OP is full of BS.

I voted for no one cares.

Most would agree that we should accept that Satoshi will not resurface and even if you bought his old email, it doesn't prove or mean anything to the community. Why not just enjoy his invention? You might take years and years to try to unravel the mysteries and then what?

C'mon man. You signed the message using the key YOU generated on March 22, 2024 -- not Satoshi's actual PGP key as I requested.



This is Satoshi's PGP fingerprint: DE4E FCA3 E1AB 9E41

My key with Satoshi's email address is from Dec 2023... guess that means I actually control it and not you  

Really, who do you think you're fooling? We're not exactly spring chickens around here. Give up the grift.

The domain vistomail.com was owned by Michael Webber and he didn't renew it.
https://twitter.com/dogdaddevan/status/1666853103667224577

The fact that you get the domain doesn't mean that you have access to the past server with all the data like emails or the database, you only have the domain. So, how did you access all the past emails from satoshi? that makes no sense.

And even if you have access to the emails, i don't think Satoshi would reveal his identity in those emails, his goal was to stay anonymous and he worked hard on it. So, i don't believe at all your story.

Satoshi should keep remaining anonymous for us and to whole world. None of us would care if he revealed himself today through you or someone else in the future because that wouldn't change or make us care more of what we believe bitcoin to be the greatest asset that the whole world will get hold of as another means of transactions or store of value.

What I really want is for kids and adults to stop cyber bullying people and making them feel like nothing on the internet when they could be everything. I would see these wars to be stopped and de-financed.. I would like for financial markets not to lie about what they are doing, and plus they are so boring on CNBC.  I like seeing creative people able to launch projects can change the world and also their entire situation. Its exciting! I would like to be a part of something greater. I see struggle everyday for everyone Rich and the Poor and its getting very weird and out of control. Almost like an intervention needs to happen. I see possibilities to make really cool things in this world. I see thieves not just taking money, but taking the souls and hearts of the creators.  My ask is to only be a part of the projects and ideas, because they are really f$$%876 cool and fun and if people make a better living off of it, good for them. I would like to see the ability to access better mining equipment that doesn't pull so much electricity and can also push 1PH, because lets be honest its so expensive to mine and and for what? The reward 3.125 BTC for all that work? Even mining eCash... It's really hard to "mine" hit a block. Even with 110TH the reward is only $48 -88 bucks. So I get it. I understand, I just want to be a part of it. (My advice would be to start buying instead of mining BTW THEN THE MINERS WILL KICK IT UP AND SHOOT THE COIN PRICE.) Satoshi or no Satoshi there are so many cool projects to work on. I would rather have the opportunity to work on them with you, gain merit and some respect on Bitcointalk not a -4. I love seeing creativity and being a part of that.

Thank you for taking the time to read this.

Well, it still looks like you're a scammer, there is still no proof. Either you're lying or being fooled by someone else.

There is no need for voting because you engaged in fruitless research. I am still wondering what will be the positive effect of unveiling Satoshi to the community. Satoshi has done his part in creating Bitcoin and he can contribute to the system from anywhere if he wants, so there is no need to know him. I think his anonymity is better for the community than exposing his identity. There are more challenges facing the Bitcoin space and I think you should do more research on that than wasting your time on something that is not beneficial. I will not be surprised if you start asking members for money if they want to access information about the identity of Satoshi.

I removed Tips, thanks for the feedback.

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I signed the message you posted, "Anybody can put satoshi's email address in a public PGP key... his actual key is here. Would be much more impressive if you could sign a message from it. So far, you haven't provided any sort of proof of anything."  

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Everyone has the right to their own opinions on this matter. Our intention was simply to conduct a straightforward Yes or No vote. Otherwise, I can choose to remain silent. I happen to know who Satoshi is, and Satoshi requested that I share this to gauge interest. Currently, the majority is voting No one cares and scammer, which is encouraging for Satoshi to remain anonymous. We just wanted to pose the question to the world.

If you were helpful in what? I've read what you wrote more than 100 times since I've been on the forum, and of all those posts revealing the secrets and mysteries of the real identity of Satoshi Nakamoto, in the end there was one big nothing.

I would personally respect the right to privacy of every person who has made it clear that they want it, especially those whose lives could be in danger if their true identity is known. If you hadn't asked for a tip, I might have thought that there was at least a 1% chance that you got something, and this way I think you're just fishing in murky water.

I doubt your statement, Whois data shows the registration date happened since 2006.


And even if you actually bought the domain recently, i don't understand how you can obtain information related to Satoshi just by owning the domain.

Anybody can put satoshi's email address in a public PGP key... his actual key is here. Would be much more impressive if you could sign a message from it. So far, you haven't provided any sort of proof of anything.

Greetings, BitcoinTalk community,

I hope this message finds you well. Recently, I acquired vistomail.com, including the email alias [email protected], enabling me to dive deep into the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto, the visionary behind Bitcoin.

After months of dedicated research and exploration, I'm thrilled to announce that my findings are now complete. This journey has been both captivating and challenging, marked by numerous discoveries.

To involve the community in this pivotal moment, I've initiated a vote. It's up to you whether I should disclose the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto based on the evidence I've gathered. Your participation and input are essential as we chart the course forward.

I firmly believe that transparency and collaboration within our community will advance our understanding of Bitcoin's origins and motivations. Your insights and perspectives are invaluable as we engage in this crucial discussion.

Please take a moment to vote and share your thoughts on whether we should unveil Satoshi Nakamoto's identity. I eagerly anticipate your feedback and look forward to meaningful discussions that enrich our collective knowledge.

Thank you for your attention and active participation in this endeavor. Together, we can continue unraveling the mysteries surrounding Satoshi Nakamoto and his profound impact on the cryptocurrency landscape.

Best regards,
Alex Elbanna
@alexelbanna

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