Topic: 🔍 Unveiling Satoshi Nakamoto: Community Vote 🗳️ (Read 693 times)

Here is your proof: https://youtu.be/afDEEINVzKQ

"Hey everyone, Alex here. Today, I want to focus on the good, but I also need to address the Bitcointalk community. Sitting behind a computer and bashing someone because you're a hero member or have status doesn't make it okay. You never know who's on the other side.

I may or may not be Satoshi Nakamoto, but I am the closest one to Satoshi. I hope you focus on the facts, truth, and proof, and not spin a false narrative from this video.

"I registered vistomail.com, anonymousspeech.com, secureanonymoussurfing.com, websecureemail.com, mailbuddy-tool.com, and virtual-hiv-test.com on the day they became available. These domains have always been under my account, ensuring they remain secure and reliable.
 
"My goal with this video is to target one of my addresses with your miner hash. As Hal Finney would say, 'running Bitcoin,' I can use the rewards to buy eCash, a more promising solution. eCash has not been seized by governments, bought out by corporations, or used for illegal activities. After I buy eCash on the open market, I will then stake it and reset the price back to 1999, like CyberBucks. By doing this, I'll be able to boost eCash's price without disrupting Bitcoin. The reward is that eCash's price will skyrocket with more liquidity, making it more attractive for miners to mine eCash while pumping rewards to the 1 Bitcoin address.

Regarding my SEC issue, my aim was to get caught to understand their process and what they are looking for as an exchange operator and owner. They still have yet to clarify but dance around the questions and say that they can't give legal advice. While I'm out on the battlefield, you trolls can talk about it. But remember, it's the actions and facts that matter.

My intentions are not to fight. If we all work together, I promise the projects I get involved in will outperform anything you have ever seen. I just need help from you.

Now that you know 1% of my real life, I would like to involve you in the other 99% awesome part of it.

Thanks for watching, and please subscribe. If this works out I will start posting my Ideas and concepts and become a more professional Youtuber.

I have, but it seems you're unwilling to understand. Please review the metadata indicating the PDF is directly downloaded from the GoDaddy Dashboard, confirming it has not been altered. We can provide additional receipts upon request.

You can view the receipts here:

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/9lzu6cgdldj3ck0s3a2l5/vistomail-2006.pdf?rlkey=d98qwhruo826ienkysjxjymbw&st=ni5emrb0&dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/0b1njt83y0d6zmolls6y1/vistomail-2008.pdf?rlkey=q6vvtcgz2w57rp84put4xpt28&st=t2uddzeg&dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/rwf5afp9t75v8shut2q4y/secureanonymoussurfing.pdf?rlkey=ogl4gti5y1utlr5qj7l3ound7&st=bk3oc0zt&dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/i69dvlysyhwbo5r8zecmb/Anonymousspeech.com?rlkey=vpti31kiqs00awxmu7e9r1lfs&st=7mda0bv9&dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/0l5w653dio3tz4euz3fya/3.pdf?rlkey=y5mbkq84s8l2vaqxtg7i3ln9z&st=i0h0qw6q&dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/o885giwc9953g6dfqtchg/websecureemail.com?rlkey=bpqyxu6lo1ile8dguw2sq8kvh&st=ifzjma8n&dl=0

To check if a PDF has been altered from its original version, follow these steps:

Metadata Inspection: PDF files contain metadata that can indicate the software used to create or modify them, creation dates, and more. Check this metadata to see if it matches the expected details from the original source.

Digital Signatures: Some PDFs may include digital signatures, which verify the authenticity and integrity of the document. If present, verify the signature to ensure the document has not been altered since it was signed.

Compare Versions: If you have access to the original PDF, compare it visually or using specialized software designed for detecting differences between documents. Look for changes in text, formatting, or content.

Checksums or Hash Values: Compute and compare checksums or hash values (such as MD5, SHA-1, SHA-256) of the original and current PDF files. A change in these values indicates alterations.

Third-Party Tools: Use specialized PDF forensic tools or validators that can analyze the file for signs of tampering or modifications.

By following these methods, you can determine if a PDF has been altered from its original version, ensuring its authenticity and reliability.

I posted it here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.64258004

No one cares; everyone voted. Please review the results. Perhaps this is a major reason why voting doesn't work for you.

- No one cares - 8 votes (33.3%)
- Scammer - 9 votes (37.5%)
- I don't know - 1 vote (4.2%)

Votes are supposed to provide answers. Your statement, 'I thought you were about to unveil Satoshi Nakamoto,' cannot be justified with a response; instead, I offer you a link."

It looks like he finally game up hahaha! What a fucking loser now selling https://vistomail.com for ¥249,999!!! because nobody cares about Satoshi!! What a failure and scumbag! What a scammer‼️

Surprisingly enough for yet another Satoshi Nakamoto Identity thread I read all
of the OP's post....


TBH OP, with all your hard work I really think you should monetise your findings.
I'm sure you could find someone willing to pay you for something which the majority
of Bitcoiners dont care about.


There is nothing which is a mystery about the origins and motivations behind Bitcoin.

very simple explanations for further research if you want....

Origins: Cypherpunk movement

Motivations: From the Bitcoin Whitepaper

I don't think that the op has truly managed to do something that nobody else managed to do before, including professional investigative journalists. But, in any case, I believe that we must respect Satoshi's right to remain anonymous, Satoshi's privacy. Privacy is among the top values that Bitcoin puts forth, and it's good both for individuals and for BTC's decentralization. If we learn who Satoshi is, it will inevitably alienate some people (because undoubtedly a human being has certain values and opinions that someone else won't appreciate), and it's likely to impact the development of Bitcoin in the future. So it's better not to know and not to dig too deep into it.

Hey there, hardworkinfamilyman! I took a look at your reply, but I didn't watch the video you linked since the chatbot I'm using right now doesn't have the feature to understand YouTube videos. However, I did notice some red flags in your text.

First off, your claim to be the closest to Satoshi Nakamoto is weak sauce. You didn't provide any solid evidence to back it up, and frankly, it's a tired old claim that's been made by many before you.

Then there's the issue of the domains you registered, including vistomail.com, which you claim is connected to Satoshi Nakamoto. But let's be real, the community isn't going to trust someone who's running from the US Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) and has been caught lying on many occasions. You need to build trust with the community, and making false claims or avoiding legal issues isn't the way to do it.

And speaking of the SEC, let's not forget that running from them is a terrible idea. If you've done something wrong, face the consequences and make things right. It's the only way to regain the community's trust.

In short, stop making grandiose claims without any evidence, build trust with the community, and deal with your legal issues. It's not rocket science.

But I feel like that many of us wants to vote for yes because all the time, we are always curious and wants to unravel the mysteries about the person behind Bitcoin. And maybe the the research or evidence he have prepared right there are only partial and there are still more to it that he didn't released yet to the public.

To answer your question about the positive effect it can bring to us, well it gives us a sense of contentment and we can now focus clearly on other things. There might other positive effects than this that the whole community can benefit. The challenges that you are talking about are clear and experts are already working on improving them.

Craig also used ChatGPT in his forgeries tho, so it is indeed something out of his playbook.

And what exactly are you trying to prove with these receipts?


Instead of turning to ChatGPT for wisdom, you should ask your buddy CSW how to forge a document. He is an expert in that field. Just dont expect to win any court cases with them. Hahaha!

Hey "hardworkinfamilyman",

Stop dodging the question and provide concrete evidence to support your claims about Satoshi Nakamoto's identity. Your attempts to change the subject and attack the voting process are not fooling anyone.

The majority of the votes indicate that you are either a scammer or that no one cares about your claims. You have ignored all the arguments and scam accusations made against you, including the fact that the US SEC has caught you raising over one million dollars illegally through unregistered offers and sales of securities to crypto asset investors.

Why go Off Topic victimizing yourself as if you were a kinder garden kid?  I thought you were just about to unveil Satoshi Nakamoto.  What does Trump and Biden have to do with unveiling his identity?

Its a hell of a lot better than the route you are now attempting to go. Here's why we all know you're full of shit: If you had anything of interest at all to present, you would have opened with that instead of your low-brow PGP party trick. As BlackHatCoiner pointed out, anybody can forge anything, except for a message signed from satoshi's actual PGP key.

You picked the wrong place to try this imbecility -- you should have started at a BSV forum.


Only if you want to continue to waste everyone's time.

Asking for money, promoting a shitcoin, asking people to mine for you, quoting CSW ( that's the best one yet, Proof by signing is meaningless but a bunch of amateur forgeries are proof?) I'm glued to this thread to see what you're going to come up with next.

Hate to break this to you, but owning a domain name is just controlling a couple lines of txt on some nameservers. You know nothing.

“Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence”, you want the community to believe your story, you will have to show incontrovertible evidence that your claims are true, so it is not the community trying to discredit you, your actions are doing it for yourself.

Also do not stoop so low as to claim you are being bullied, it is not bullying for a person to ask evidence from another one when they make a claim no reasonable person would believe without it.

It's ironic that you say "talk is cheap" when that's all you've been doing throughout this entire thread. You've yet to provide any real proof or evidence to back up your claims, and instead, you're trying to distract us with your "voting" system using hashrate. But let's be real, this is just a front for you to get free Bitcoin.

You keep mentioning numbers and hashrate, but where are the source? You've yet to provide any concrete evidence of the hashrate you claim to have. It's easy to throw around big numbers, but without any proof, it's meaningless.

I can't believe I even have to waste my time addressing you. Your claims of having information about Satoshi Nakamoto's identity are laughable. You provide a GPG key that isn't owned by Satoshi and some questionable receipts as "proof" but that doesn't cut it. If Satoshi really wanted to reveal himself, he would do it through official channels, not some shady vote on a forum. And the fact that you suggested using hashrate as a way to vote is just another red flag, it's not a proper way to make decisions in the community.

And let's not forget the fact that you asked for money tips, that's a huge red flag right there. And the fact that you've been tagged as a scammer on this forum, multiple times, just goes to show that you're not trustworthy. I've even gone ahead and created a thread discussing your scammy behavior, I encourage everyone to check it out https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.64255041 and support flagging you as a scammer on your profile https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=3316.

I hope this serves as a warning to anyone who comes across your posts, stay away from this scammer.

I was just wondering when you were going to mention the project you have in your profile because this was a good way to get attention before revealing to everyone what it was all about. The fact that you want the knowledge of someone who invented BTC in order to use it to launch some kind of altcoin really makes no sense. Why don't you ask AI when you already plan to use it?

---

Your intentions are clear, promoting a project that has nothing to do with BTC, so stop mentioning it because your topic will end up in the altcoins board.

So, you already scammed $1M and want the support from the community to scam more?


You can't prove who satoshi is, you proved you are a scammer, and even with that you want support from the community? What's wrong with you?

This will not have a happy end, you will only burn your reputation here, but good luck, i don't have anything else to apport to your thread, from the start i chose the option "Scammer" in your poll.

Do you think we care about knowing Satoshi Nakamoto's identity, if we all know it, what are we going to do with it and what does it also benefit on you, its more better for you take quickly realize the opportunity ahead of you and grab it by understanding the same benefits many are getting from bitcoin adoption instead of lurking around the corners in searching for who Satoshi is or claiming to be him.

Let me ask you this, why the hell would Satoshi, who chose to remain anonymous forever after creating Bitcoin, contact and mentor a random person out of nowhere and let them know his identity? We know he isn't a fool, so maybe you think we are a bunch of fools because there is no f***ing way he has done something like that even if he is alive and kicking.

I'm pretty sure that if he is alive and has ever wanted to reveal his identity, he would have a thousand different and much better ways to do that instead of doing this. So please, stop with all this BS.

What receipts are you talking about anyway? We live in an advanced world, anyone can make edits or do things that would make viewers feel what's seen is real, but I'm not going to believe any of what you may show no matter how realistic it may seem.

Oh, alright. It all makes sense now. 

I know you'll deliberately ignore this, but: There is practically nothing preventing me from forging a receipt. I can even buy iamsatoshinakamoto.com, and when asked for a receipt, tell them to write that it belongs to "Satoshi Nakamoto". Here you go, proof that he bought a domain name in 2024.

What I cannot forge is public key signatures. And you know that already. You just want to trick gullible newbies into believing you've got something there. What a scum.

Buying vistomail, a "receipt from bitcoin.org", signing that you're Satoshi from a random public key, and I don't know what else you might figure out, DOES NOT prove you are or have talked with Satoshi.

You know what still counts as evidence? Signing a message from:

Or from: https://bitcointalk.org/Satoshi_Nakamoto.asc / https://bitcoin.org/satoshinakamoto.asc.

If Satoshi really wanted to appear, he would go to a TV show, sign a live message and become very famous, he is an intelligent person, and being an intelligent person, he would look for the places that get the most attention and then he would expose himself. knowing that nowadays no government cares about him, so he would definitely have no problem presenting himself publicly. My opinion is that Satoshi died a long time ago. If he had been alive, he would have presented himself many years ago. at that time when he created bitcoin, it was a time when if he had presented himself, he would have had problems with governments, he would have been persecuted. But today things are different, no government would persecute you

if you want people to believe in you, then try harder, record a video with satoshi signing a message, you can also give us his instagram, so we know everything about his life, because nowadays we don't even need to interact with other people live, they post everything they do on Instagram  But stop joking, bring concrete proof. I've been on this forum since 2016 and I've seen a lot of news about a lot of guys claiming to be satoshi and at the end of the day they're faketoshis

Regardless of my opinion, you didn't bother explain how you can dive deep when all you might have is domain vistomail.com and falsely claim owning Satoshi Nakamoto GPG key. People also perceive that Satoshi wish to remain anonymous. That shows how much we could trust you.

i find it kind of hard to believe that satoshi is behind this whole thing trying to see if people are interested in knowing who he is. that's laughable. personally i don't really care who he is. since he is the one that stepped away, we can say that he doesn't want his identity known and i don't really care who he is for that reason.

OP is full of BS.

I voted for no one cares.

Most would agree that we should accept that Satoshi will not resurface and even if you bought his old email, it doesn't prove or mean anything to the community. Why not just enjoy his invention? You might take years and years to try to unravel the mysteries and then what?

C'mon man. You signed the message using the key YOU generated on March 22, 2024 -- not Satoshi's actual PGP key as I requested.



This is Satoshi's PGP fingerprint: DE4E FCA3 E1AB 9E41

My key with Satoshi's email address is from Dec 2023... guess that means I actually control it and not you  

Really, who do you think you're fooling? We're not exactly spring chickens around here. Give up the grift.

The domain vistomail.com was owned by Michael Webber and he didn't renew it.
https://twitter.com/dogdaddevan/status/1666853103667224577

The fact that you get the domain doesn't mean that you have access to the past server with all the data like emails or the database, you only have the domain. So, how did you access all the past emails from satoshi? that makes no sense.

And even if you have access to the emails, i don't think Satoshi would reveal his identity in those emails, his goal was to stay anonymous and he worked hard on it. So, i don't believe at all your story.

Satoshi should keep remaining anonymous for us and to whole world. None of us would care if he revealed himself today through you or someone else in the future because that wouldn't change or make us care more of what we believe bitcoin to be the greatest asset that the whole world will get hold of as another means of transactions or store of value.

Well, it still looks like you're a scammer, there is still no proof. Either you're lying or being fooled by someone else.

There is no need for voting because you engaged in fruitless research. I am still wondering what will be the positive effect of unveiling Satoshi to the community. Satoshi has done his part in creating Bitcoin and he can contribute to the system from anywhere if he wants, so there is no need to know him. I think his anonymity is better for the community than exposing his identity. There are more challenges facing the Bitcoin space and I think you should do more research on that than wasting your time on something that is not beneficial. I will not be surprised if you start asking members for money if they want to access information about the identity of Satoshi.

If you were helpful in what? I've read what you wrote more than 100 times since I've been on the forum, and of all those posts revealing the secrets and mysteries of the real identity of Satoshi Nakamoto, in the end there was one big nothing.

I would personally respect the right to privacy of every person who has made it clear that they want it, especially those whose lives could be in danger if their true identity is known. If you hadn't asked for a tip, I might have thought that there was at least a 1% chance that you got something, and this way I think you're just fishing in murky water.

I doubt your statement, Whois data shows the registration date happened since 2006.


And even if you actually bought the domain recently, i don't understand how you can obtain information related to Satoshi just by owning the domain.

Anybody can put satoshi's email address in a public PGP key... his actual key is here. Would be much more impressive if you could sign a message from it. So far, you haven't provided any sort of proof of anything.

Greetings, BitcoinTalk community,

I hope this message finds you well. Recently, I acquired vistomail.com, including the email alias [email protected], enabling me to dive deep into the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto, the visionary behind Bitcoin.

After months of dedicated research and exploration, I'm thrilled to announce that my findings are now complete. This journey has been both captivating and challenging, marked by numerous discoveries.

To involve the community in this pivotal moment, I've initiated a vote. It's up to you whether I should disclose the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto based on the evidence I've gathered. Your participation and input are essential as we chart the course forward.

I firmly believe that transparency and collaboration within our community will advance our understanding of Bitcoin's origins and motivations. Your insights and perspectives are invaluable as we engage in this crucial discussion.

Please take a moment to vote and share your thoughts on whether we should unveil Satoshi Nakamoto's identity. I eagerly anticipate your feedback and look forward to meaningful discussions that enrich our collective knowledge.

Thank you for your attention and active participation in this endeavor. Together, we can continue unraveling the mysteries surrounding Satoshi Nakamoto and his profound impact on the cryptocurrency landscape.

Best regards,
Alex Elbanna
@alexelbanna

-----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----
Comment: F8E5 5B14 73DC FF83 5CCE  599E 8920 0D87 A42D 1483
Comment: [email protected] <[email protected]>
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=N6/l
-----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----